 With global conditions of late, I’m beginning to wonder if 20.04 is on schedule for release next month, or if it’ll be 20.05 or 20.06...?
 I have not been notified of a delay I doubt it since like all development done online anyway
[03:07] <guiverc> @heysounddute I've written a few responses (askubu, ubuforums) so I was looking for one, Ubuntu has had no changed to schedule (still looking for my links)
 Yes, true, the original self-isolating social distancing remote workers...lol.
[03:11] <guiverc> @heysounddude, one response is https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2439179  (using UWN and Mark Shuttleworth's notice)
 I’m on the discourse on my desktop- looks like things are pretty much full steam ahead, torpedoes be damned.
 The friend who traded me something for this old zbox with Intel atom d510 and 2GB of RAM is constantly surprised when I update him on what version it runs...I think it happened around 14.04
 So being bored because of Covid lockdown, the prospect of reporting it still running with the latest OS is exciting.
 Let's please keep this on topic (support).
[08:12] <sreekar> how upload using php code with file permissions in ubuntu16.04
[08:13] <sreekar> lubuntu
[08:13] <guiverc> sreekar, lubuntu 16.04 LTS is end-of-life and thus off-topic, we suggest you move to a supported release of Lubuntu
[08:13] <guiverc> we don't support EOL releases, only ubuntu-server, desktop & kylin desktop is still supported on 16.04
[08:13] <sreekar> k tell me in lubuntu
[08:14] <guiverc> lubuntu 16.04 is end-of-life and without support; use `ubuntu-support-status` to confirm for yourself what % of packages on your installed system are supported
[08:15] <guiverc> your base 16.04 system is still supported, but if you check the unsupported packages, all of lubuntu desktop will be listed I bet...
[08:15] <sreekar> k
 And for questions about PHP there are certainly better channels
[08:17] <sreekar> how upload using php code with file permissions in lubuntu
[08:17] <guiverc> we don't support EOL releases, and you've already been told that here, and on other sites
[08:18] <sreekar> k
[08:21] <guiverc> thanks & sorry, 3rd time today I've responded to that query
 Hi guys, can you please help with choosing lubuntu version. I'm on 20th and its freezing alot, when i browse pages or use several apps
 my pc is old core2duo and 2gb ram
[12:39] <guiverc> 20th? do you mean 20.04?
 yes
 maybe i should take very old one?)
 @Rudra Bali [Not 20.04 as it is development], was trying both
[12:41] <guiverc> my box is c2q-9400, box near me I've also running is c2d-8300 and is also running 20.04 without issue
[12:42] <guiverc> is your box running it 'live' or installed?
[12:44]  * guiverc used c2d to mean core2duo, c2q to mean core2quad or up-market-version of same.. i don't think core2duo is your issue as I've tested c2d-6600, c2d-6850, c2d-.... etc
 @Rudra Bali [Try out Linux Lite], requirements look not so good
 @Rudra Bali [Tiny Core?], ah, you were meaning another distribution, my mistak
 @Rudra Bali [It should suite your purpose], thx, gonna try it
[13:22] <santimir[m]> any ideas on how to change a wallpaper from command line on lubuntu?
[13:22] <santimir[m]>  * any ideas on how to change a wallpaper from command line on lubuntu 19.10?
[13:23] <santimir[m]> didn't work, no changes
[13:26] <guiverc> I don't recall; I would look in the script that puts a wallpaper on each display for lxqt/lubuntu by hmollercl (i forget it's name sorry)
[13:33] <guiverc> https://github.com/hmollercl/stitchWP  (stitchWP is what I was thinking of)
[13:33] <santimir[m]> thanks dude; and am reading feh's manual too. Pretty neat tool
[13:34] <guiverc> or closer to home is possibly https://code.launchpad.net/~hmollercl/stitchwp/+git/stitchwp
[14:16] <m33per> is there someone around that might be able to help with a Panel issue I can't figure out?
[14:33] <demhackzp> hi
[14:34] <demhackzp> i need help with lubuntu
 How can we help? :)
[14:34] <demhackzp> how can i install java 8u45 in this one?
 What version of Lubuntu are you on?
[14:35] <demhackzp> the latest, 19.10
[14:36] <demhackzp> java 8u45 works best on this system
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
 Those install instructions work for Lubuntu as well.
[14:36] <demhackzp> because if i use the latest java, minecraft will crash saying that i have outdated drivers (well its true but i ran minecraft using this)
[14:36] <demhackzp> thanks!
 You're welcome! for Java 8 there is also a PPA http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html if you don't want to do the manual install.
 I don't think Java 8 is directly in the repos yet
[14:38] <demhackzp> thanks! i'm looking around lubuntu because i saw some reviews and they said its fast even with old systems and its true!
 Wait, disregard the PPA I linked that outdated. My apologies.
 Can you show `java -version` from the command line?
[14:40] <demhackzp> Command 'java' not found, but can be installed with:
[14:40] <demhackzp> sudo apt install openjdk-11-jre-headless  # version 11.0.6+10-1ubuntu1~19.10.1, or
[14:40] <demhackzp> sudo apt install default-jre              # version 2:1.11-72
[14:40] <demhackzp> sudo apt install openjdk-13-jre-headless  # version 13+33-1
[14:40] <demhackzp> sudo apt install openjdk-14-jre-headless  # version 14~18-1
[14:40] <demhackzp> sudo apt install openjdk-8-jre-headless   # version 8u242-b08-0ubuntu3~19.10
[14:41] <demhackzp> i wrote "java -version"
 sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre
[14:42] <demhackzp> jre
[14:44] <demhackzp> it shows an error
[14:44] <demhackzp> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/prx8n3BWHF/
[14:45] <demhackzp> how?
[14:46] <demhackzp> and i also realized that its also on the properties
[14:56] <demhackzp> everything is going well for now
 Then you should test, if it works also with less permissions.
 And the file needs the exec flag also for others or only for the owner?
[15:01] <demhackzp> it crashes :<
[15:01] <demhackzp> when i click "install and play" it locks itself (not the system but the app)
[15:04] <demhackzp> i'll try a different launcher (i'm using cracked ones btw)
[15:05] <demhackzp> no
[15:05] <demhackzp> i never used that site
[15:05] <demhackzp> i know that it doesn't work
[15:05] <demhackzp> so i get the launchers from the original source
[15:08] <demhackzp> i tried another launcher and it works
[15:08] <demhackzp> so the problem is the other launcher
[15:09] <m33per> https://imgur.com/a/nQriZGE I'm having issues with my panel where it won't show notifications from either of my screens and I can't figure out why both statusnotifier and tray are both saying "only one instance can run at a time" when I have neither (that I know of) running
[15:10] <m33per> I've been digging into this for a few days trying to sort it out before bugging people, but I'm not getting anywhere
[15:11] <santimir[m]> is it .xinitrc the right place to add a script running everytime I log in?
[15:14] <santimir[m]> don't know if it can be done userwise
[15:18] <demhackzp> i'm surprised, it has better framerate than running in windows
[15:59] <santimir[m]> <guiverc "https://github.com/hmollercl/sti"> the repository is empty :(
 What are you trying?
[16:06] <santimir[m]> to set up a different wallpaper everytime I log in
 How do you try it?
[16:09] <santimir[m]> ive tried w xsetroot and some others, now using feh. I know it is almost working but being overwritten, because when I log out it shows up for 2 seconds
 Does `pcmanfm-qt --set-wallpaper=FILE` not work?
[16:10] <santimir[m]> think it didnt yesterday, but maybe forgot the equal sign
[16:14] <santimir[m]> yes, it does work, but still need to add this into some startup file, and dont know if ~/.config/openbox/autostart should be fine
[16:15] <santimir[m]>  * yes, it does work, but still need to add this into some startup file, and dont know if `~/.config/openbox/autostart` should be fine
 As an idea: create a script with the logic to get the desired filename and set the wallpaper. The script can then be  called from some other place
 Maybe, it is enough to put it into the .bash.rc, maybe you want to use systemd
 I am not using bash, but it seems, that ~/.bash_profile is invoked only for login shells
[16:27] <santimir[m]> alright the basic thing is working
[16:28] <santimir[m]> i've put it on `/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc/`
[16:28] <santimir[m]> still needs to be random
 Are you the only user in the system?
[16:29] <santimir[m]> probably `set-wallpaper=$(ls path/to/dirs |shuf -n1) `
[16:29] <santimir[m]> yes. I don't like to use the system-wide files anyways, cause I've sensible files on the system...
[16:30] <santimir[m]> but it's the only way I've found so far...
[16:30] <santimir[m]> do you know any user-scoped file analogue?
 If it works with ~/.bash_profile, then I would place it into ~/bin
[16:34] <santimir[m]> `pcmanfm-qt --set-wallpaper=$(ls ~.local/share/wallpapers/*/* | shuf -n1)` its doing the job
[16:34] <santimir[m]>  * `pcmanfm-qt --set-wallpaper=$(ls ~/.local/share/wallpapers/*/* | shuf -n1)` its doing the job
[16:35] <santimir[m]> alright. will try that one
[16:36] <santimir[m]> i'd like to be able to use feh though. seems not to be possible...
[16:36] <santimir[m]>  * i'd like to be able to use feh though. seems not to be possible...
[16:38] <santimir[m]> why ~/bin ?
 It is for personal scripts
 But you can place it, wherever you have access to
[16:40] <santimir[m]> I see. You mean put it there and add the file into /etc/X11/... afterwards?
[16:40] <santimir[m]> otherwise I won't have any different wallpapers when logging in
[16:40] <santimir[m]>  * otherwise there wont be any different wallpapers when logging in
[16:40] <santimir[m]>  * otherwise there wont be any different wallpaper when logging in
 @kc2bez Hi Dan. I tried debian today..and the same issue with Ntfs...tried again with Fat32..and it worked. Seems calameres installer has something off. … Just wanted to provide you an update. Thanks
 Thanks for the update @arnabdafadar
 👍👍
 I don't think Debian ships NTFS support by default, since it's a non-free package.
 @TheLimeRunner [I don't think Debian ships NTFS support by default, since it's a non-free packag …], @TheLimeRunner Same issue i faced with lubuntu and manjaro... calameres is the common link among all three.
 Well considering that NTFS is a proprietary file system used almost exclusively for MS systems, I'm not surprised. Fat32 has been the defacto standard for creating install USBs from Windows. Rufus selects it by default unless you change it to NTFS.
 @TheLimeRunner [Well considering that NTFS is a proprietary file system used almost exclusively …], Yup.. thats what i also thought.
 It shouldn't be used for installing anything other than Windows. It's not a bug in calamares that you're trying to install from an unsupported filesystem.
 @TheLimeRunner Zorin os and linux mint somehow manages to do handle ntfs gracefully out of the box
 They include ntfs3g by defalt
 *buntu does as well with the restircted extras
 @TheLimeRunner [It shouldn't be used for installing anything other than Windows. It's not a bug …], Ya..i agree! Not a bug...but coming from mint and Zorin, i was not aware of this nfts non-support
 Idk how you managed to install either of those off an NTFS formatted drive.
 Lubuntu supports read and write out of the box, but the partition manager won't be able to format without the ntfs packages. Zorin and Mint include these, as they include many non-free packages.
 Thankfully it's a quick fix.
 The system i am installing on..it accepts only 32bit uefi and ntfs formatted drive to boot up...thats the issue..i was banging my head for the past 3 days ☹️
 @TheLimeRunner [Lubuntu supports read and write out of the box, but the partition manager won't …], Okay..thats a new info for me...thanks
 UEFI uses Fat...not NTFS.
 @TheLimeRunner [UEFI uses Fat...not NTFS.], I know.... but my system has some custom uefi or something like that...and its a crap! It only boots with a ntfs formatted drive with 32boot uefi file
 Its a small BayTrail based convertible tablet
 BayTrail itself is a pain in the a** to start with...all the non working drivers and all
 The firmware must only boot the bootloader, which is on a partition with VFAT
[17:02] <santimir[m]> created the file ~/.xinitrc  and put the code there. Remove it from /etc/X11...
[17:03] <santimir[m]> seems to be working. Sorry for interrupting!
 Why do you prefer the scripted solution over the diashow from the settings?
[17:05] <santimir[m]> what's that? under preferences>desktop?
 On the gui, where you can set the wallpaper path
 The second tab
[17:07] <santimir[m]> well 1) I want a new one every time I log in 2) i've a set of directories not just one so in a script // works well and 3) want to learn about the config before moving to awesome wm
[17:07] <santimir[m]> don't know if 2) is true
[17:08] <santimir[m]>  * well 1) I want a new one every time I log in 2) i've a set of directories not just one so in a script / * / * works well and 3) want to learn about the config before moving to awesome wm
[17:17] <demhackzp> how to change the screen saver?
[17:19] <diogenes_> demhackzp, disable the old one fron the startup and add the new one for autostart.