[01:26] <callmepk> Good morning
[01:28] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[01:29] <callmepk> Morning duflu
[01:29] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: please remember to help with the snap-store-3-36 branch
[01:29] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, ack
[01:29] <kenvandine> https://trello.com/c/SPoFPnVb/788-fix-components-cache-in-snap-store-3-36-branch
[01:30] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: btw... good morning :)
[01:54] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, that last commit you made should be merged into a620371741f0eb85c837c7ae034b042aea3e609c - do you have everything checked in so I can rebase?
[01:56] <kenvandine> I do
[05:47] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:56] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[05:56] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[06:06] <oSoMoN> duflu, thanks for triaging my bug report, and for marking the second one a duplicate of the first one, I have no idea how I managed to file the same bug twice, concurrently
[06:06] <duflu> oSoMoN, no problem. Happens occasionally
[06:06] <oSoMoN> I think my mouse might be playing tricks on me, issuing very fast double clicks
[06:07] <duflu> Yes that happens too
[06:27] <didrocks> good morning
[06:29] <seb128> lut didrocks, good morning desktopers!
[06:36] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[06:38] <duflu> Morning didrocks and seb128 
[06:38] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[06:40] <seb128> hey duflu
[06:40] <seb128> how are you?
[06:40] <seb128> didrocks, ça va ?
[06:40] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, seb128 
[06:40] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[06:41] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, et toi ?
[06:41] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[06:41] <seb128> didrocks, pas encore bien réveillé mais sinon ça va :)
[06:42] <oSoMoN> ça va, ça va
[07:04] <duflu> seb128, sorry I missed that. I'm well other than a headache. You?
[07:04] <seb128> duflu, a bit tired but good otherwise!
[07:37] <duflu> seb128, about that missing spinner... it's still missing but I suspect that's some combination of the machine being so fast that it's never needed for long enough to fade in at all
[07:37] <duflu> I will confirm when I update my laptop
[07:38] <duflu> Oh, no I won't. That laptop can't start the spinner theme for other reasons
[07:38] <duflu> That might be my next task
[07:40] <duflu> It's not missing if I start plymouth manually anyway
[07:50] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:50] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson, welcome back
[07:50] <marcustomlinson> thanks. how are you duflu?
[07:51] <duflu> marcustomlinson, I can't complain. How are you?
[07:51] <oSoMoN> mornin' marcustomlinson, welcome back!
[07:51] <marcustomlinson> yeah not bad, back at about 85%
[07:51] <marcustomlinson> hey oSoMoN, how goes things?
[07:52] <oSoMoN> all good, thanks
[07:53] <didrocks> hey, welcome back marcustomlinson! Happy to see you around here :)
[07:54] <marcustomlinson> thanks didrocks, it is good to be back (at the desk) :)
[07:54] <marcustomlinson> how things with you didrocks?
[07:54] <pieq> Morning everyone!
[07:55] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, glad to hear that you are better!
[07:55] <seb128> lut pieq, how are you?
[07:55] <didrocks> marcustomlinson: good good :)
[07:55] <didrocks> hey pieq 
[07:55] <jamesh> welcome back marcustomlinson 
[07:55] <pieq> marcustomlinson, crazy story! Happy to see you back :)
[07:56] <seb128> duflu, yeah, plymouth doesn't look great when it's only displayed for some seconds, sometime the spinner doesn't even get to be displayed...
[07:56] <marcustomlinson> hey pieq seb128 jamesh, thanks :) Hope all is well with you guys
[07:56] <pieq> seb128, ça va, but I can't try to reproduce https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/issues/832 cause now the Bluetooth seems broken on my laptop!
[07:56] <gitbot> PulseAudio issue 832 in pulseaudio "[Dell Inspiron 7370] External interfaces (BT, USB) show up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker" [Opened]
[07:56] <seb128> we are doing good here yes
[07:56] <pieq> seb128, what package should I report broken bluetooth against? bluez?
[07:56] <seb128> pieq, oh? kernel?
[07:56] <duflu> seb128, if native resolution (UEFI) integration doesn't exist in grub yet then I would like to do that next cycle
[07:56] <pieq> seb128, I can see BT devices, I can pair them, but they never connect and obviously I can't output any sound to them
[07:56] <seb128> pieq, I would start with the kernel, maybe boot a previous one if you still have those installed
[07:57] <seb128> duflu, that sounds a good thing to work on
[07:57] <seb128> I've no idea what's the status of things there
[07:57] <duflu> Well, x_nox suggested it didn't exist yesterday
[07:58] <seb128> pieq, try pairing using bluetoothctl and if it's buggy there as well yes report against bluez
[07:58] <seb128> duflu, k, he probably knows better the status than me :)
[07:58] <pieq> seb128, yeah I just tried and I have a beautiful "Failed" from bluez :)
[07:58] <pieq> I'll try to boot older kernel.
[07:58] <seb128> pieq, could still be the kernel
[07:58] <seb128> thx
[07:59] <duflu> It's been a while but maybe the fact that I spent most of the 90's hacking real mode graphics might come in handy
[07:59] <pieq> seb128, how can I force display grub at boot time?
[07:59] <pieq> I tried to keep Shift pressed but it didnt' do anythign
[07:59] <duflu> Escape?
[08:00] <pieq> duflu, indeed it is! Thanks
[08:01] <pieq> duflu, when you talk about UEFI, you want to bring a better experience for people with very high resolution screen (or very small Full HD screens) when looking at the UEFI boot screen?
[08:01] <duflu> pieq, as I understand it I think grub doesn't touch the UEFI framebuffer regardless of resolution. It leaves it untouched for plymouth
[08:01] <Laney> HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY HOOOOOOOOO
[08:01] <duflu> I am guessing
[08:02] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:02] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:02] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:03] <pieq> aaaaaaaan now it's the touchpad that's going crazy
[08:03] <Laney> wb marcustomlinson! hey duflu! hi seb128!
[08:03] <pieq> unbelievable
[08:04]  * Laney brings round a tray of tiny triangles of toast with a weird foam on top that has an olive stuck in it
[08:05] <seb128> Laney, fancy!
[08:05]  * seb128 wants one
[08:05] <Laney> of course sir
[08:05] <seb128> :-)
[08:06] <Laney> yeah i'm good
[08:06] <Laney> going to be a beta-y day I think
[08:06] <Laney> what about you?
[08:06] <seb128> I'm good as well, it's nice and sunny (as almost every day since we in lockdown :-/)
[08:06] <seb128> going to do bug triage and beta testing day for me
[08:08] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, do you know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1868529 is due to changes of yours/a known issue?
[08:16] <pieq> seb128, hm... I only have 3 kernels available, and it fails miserably on all of them. I'm gonna try to boot up a 19.10 live to see
[08:26] <oSoMoN> oh, fancy toast triangles, can haz one?
[08:26] <oSoMoN> (good morning Laney)
[08:28] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:38] <pieq> seb128, ok, BT pairing/connecting works on 19.10 (5.3.0-18 + bluez 5.50).... so both kernel and bluez are different from 20.04, where should I file the bug then?
[08:42] <seb128> pieq, start with bluez I would say
[08:42] <pieq> ok thanks
[09:17] <Wimpress> Morning desktopers
[09:17] <pieq> seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1869857
[09:17] <pieq> hi Wimpress !
[09:18] <seb128> hey Wimpress
[09:19] <pieq> seb128, should I upstream the issue?
[09:21] <seb128> pieq, it's always better to have more eyes on an issue :)
[09:21] <pieq> seb128, but I can't find their bugtracker
[09:22] <seb128> pieq, I think it's on the kernel bugzilla?
[09:22] <pieq> oh....
[09:22] <seb128> duflu, ^ do you know if that's right?
[09:23] <duflu> seb128, yes
[09:23] <seb128> thx
[09:23] <duflu> Morning Wimpress 
[09:24] <Wimpress> Hey duflu :-)
[09:24] <Wimpress> I see you made progress with Plymouth.
[09:24] <duflu> Kind of
[09:28] <duflu> Still reporting more bugs than I fix
[09:41] <xnox> seb128:  right, and after plymouth with 104.patch lands on the iso, i will still need to hunt down if anything is not shown under casper.
[09:41] <xnox> (either boot or shutdown)
[09:42] <xnox> seb128:  i did upload new casper that uses fsckd:* messages, et.al.
[09:42] <seb128> xnox, I saw, thanks
[09:51] <duflu> xnox, I also rewrote 103.patch today
[09:51] <duflu> But that's less important
[09:55] <duflu> Hmm, either bluez is rock solid or it's failing to report crashes
[09:56] <duflu> And my own machine seems to suggest the latter
[11:48] <ijohnson> Trevinho: hey so I tried using the nouveau driver instead of nvidia drivers and I was able to use fractional scaling with X11 again, I left a note in lp 1869042 about this
[13:00] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[13:00] <marcustomlinson> hi hellsworth
[13:00] <hellsworth> hi marcustomlinson !
[13:01] <hellsworth> i hope you're feeling well :)
[13:01] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: much better thanks :)
[13:01] <hellsworth> so glad to hear it :)
[13:03] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[13:03] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: hey! Thanks for all your help on libreoffice these last few days!
[13:04] <hellsworth> +1 on that
[13:05] <kenvandine> marcustomlinson: welcome back!
[13:05] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: thanks ken! good to be back
[13:19] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, marcustomlinson, ricotz: this looks like a deadlock: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:6.4.2-0ubuntu3/+build/19088112
[13:19] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: could be, could not be
[13:19] <hellsworth> i saw that but wasn't sure what to make of it
[13:19] <oSoMoN> let's give it one more hour or so, and if it hasn't progressed let's re-start
[13:19] <marcustomlinson> I've seen that waiting for lock happen for over 20 hours before and still complete
[13:20] <oSoMoN> oh really?
[13:20] <marcustomlinson> yeah
[13:20] <oSoMoN> ok, I won't touch it then
[13:20] <hellsworth> should we not worry about the unsatisfiable depends on libreoffice-dev-common?
[13:21] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: where's that?
[13:21] <hellsworth> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:21] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: oh I think that's unsatisfiable simply because the amd64 build hasn't completed yet
[13:22] <hellsworth> ok that's what i was hoping
[13:22] <marcustomlinson> as it's that build that outputs the -common package
[13:22] <marcustomlinson> s
[13:22] <hellsworth> greyed out means don't worry *yet* :)
[13:22] <hellsworth> ah makes sense
[13:22] <popey> seb128 is this (extra i386 package suggestion for focal) something for you chaps, or does this require v orlon? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/community-process-for-32-bit-compatibility/12598/61 
[13:23] <seb128> popey, the later, sorry
[13:24] <Wimpress> seb128 Laney Yep, I thought this might requires Steve's attention.
[13:24] <Wimpress> That said, it there anyone else who can assist. Is this a skill we can acquire?
[13:24] <seb128> Wimpress, one more thing for us to do right? :)
[13:24] <Wimpress> I suspect most impact for missing 32-bit libs will impact desktop use cases.
[13:25] <Wimpress> seb128: Status quo ;-)
[13:25] <seb128> Wimpress, the technical side we can probably do/handle today, I'm just unsure on the policy side for deciding there
[13:25] <seb128> but yes, we should have someone in position to take those decision I think
[13:27] <Laney> I think it'd be fine for ubuntu-archive to take those decisions
[13:27] <seb128> Wimpress, maybe a topic for the foundations catchup call tomorrow (if it happens)
[13:27] <Laney> but I'm not on that team so I can't really say that :p
[13:27]  * seb128 hides
[13:27] <Laney> that's the group though imho
[13:28] <Laney> not individually initially but they could work out how they want to handle those
[13:28] <seb128> right
[13:30] <seb128> k, meanwhile meeting time
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-03-31
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 31 13:30:49 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <hellsworth> o/
[13:31] <seb128> 	Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson (out), oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> I'm actually here
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> :)
[13:31] <oSoMoN>    \o
[13:31] <seb128> Hey Heather
[13:31] <jibel> o~
[13:31] <seb128> wb Marcus glad to see you doing better
[13:32] <seb128> k, let's get started, I expected everyone is busy with beta coming and snapcraft summit
[13:32] <didrocks> hey
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
[13:32] <marcustomlinson> shouldn't callmepk be on the roll call
[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <marcustomlinson> (sorry derailing. carry on)
[13:32] <seb128> no desktop item there
[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:33] <seb128> all assigned
[13:33] <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
[13:33] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:33] <seb128> no desktop item there
[13:33] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:33] <seb128> bug #1733321
[13:33] <seb128> I will take this one
[13:34] <seb128> since I'm the by-default nm maintainer atm...
[13:34] <seb128> that's it for E
[13:34] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
[13:34] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:34] <seb128> bug #1866194
[13:34] <seb128> I could confirm the issue now, here
[13:35] <seb128> it's a bit weird, g-c-c/totem play through the speakers even after pairing the headset
[13:35] <seb128> but paplay / gst-launch go to the headset
[13:35] <seb128> anyway
[13:35] <seb128> I vote +1 to accept the nomination
[13:35] <Laney> yes
[13:35] <didrocks> +1
[13:35] <seb128> and I will take assignment since I've been providing info to upstream
[13:35] <seb128> and I've more testing to do
[13:36] <hellsworth> +1
[13:36] <seb128> bug #1862081
[13:37] <seb128> Trevinho, do you think that should be rls tracked?
[13:37] <seb128> it's unclear to me from the description the impact
[13:37] <seb128> it has 3 dups though
[13:38] <Laney> imo this is the kind of bug that should be fixed if the option is promoted to people
[13:39] <seb128> I tend to agree
[13:39] <seb128> let's nominate it
[13:39] <seb128> Trevinho, ^
[13:39] <seb128> bug #1865838
[13:39] <seb128> untagged now so we can skip it
[13:39] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah
[13:39] <seb128> (I need to propose a patch to make the report skip milestoned/assigned which still have the tag)
[13:40] <seb128> k, next one is to target for Trevinho as well
[13:40] <seb128> bug #1867908
[13:40] <seb128> sounds like worth taking
[13:41] <seb128> it has a patch backported from upstream so easy
[13:41] <seb128> I will sponsor the upload
[13:41] <seb128> bug #1869086
[13:41] <Laney> (andrewsh recommends a sync if you didn't see that)
[13:42] <seb128> (I didn't but didn't read the details yet, will check that, thanks)
[13:42] <seb128> that gnome-software notification
[13:42] <seb128> nice to fix but not rls material
[13:42] <seb128> it's just a notification
[13:42] <seb128> and clicking on firmware update while on battery isn't a daily action
[13:42] <seb128> I vote -1
[13:42] <hellsworth> i vote not fix
[13:43] <marcustomlinson> -1
[13:43] <Trevinho> seb128: the bad of it is that it's a standing notification
[13:43] <seb128> Trevinho, report it upstream, they might fix it for us even if we don't get to it :)
[13:43] <Trevinho> not going away
[13:43] <seb128> even if you click 'not now'?
[13:43] <Trevinho> fwiw +1 on me :)
[13:43] <Laney> It makes you assume that the update succeeded
[13:43] <marcustomlinson> we're replacing gnome-software with snap-store in ff
[13:43] <Trevinho> well yep... that's the thing
[13:44] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I expect snap-store has the same problem
[13:44] <marcustomlinson> that's the question
[13:44] <seb128> Trevinho, sounds like buggy from the shell that 'not now' doesn't dismiss the notification
[13:44] <seb128> Laney, so you vote +1 to take it?
[13:44] <hellsworth> even if the same problem is in the snap store and you do an extra reboot, you'll be prompted to start the update again, won't you?
[13:44] <Trevinho> seb128: ok not-now does hide it, but it requires an action and the text says you need to do it
[13:44] <Laney> I think it's potentially quite misleading
[13:44] <Laney> so yes probably, or at least give Robert the action to look into it
[13:45] <seb128> kenvandine, opinion as the owner of snap-store? do you think you guys can take on it? should be a simple fix
[13:45] <kenvandine> i think it should be simple
[13:45] <seb128> k, let's take it
[13:45] <seb128> kenvandine, can you assign to whoever is right?
[13:45] <seb128> bug #1869635
[13:45] <kenvandine> will do
[13:45] <seb128> small thing but same category
[13:45] <seb128> (I tagged it)
[13:46] <seb128> the item leads to an error about the command not being found as well
[13:46] <seb128> Trevinho, can you take on that one, should be easy for you?
[13:46] <Trevinho> ah! merge error for sure
[13:46] <Trevinho> yeah, 
[13:46] <seb128> thx
[13:46] <Laney> +1 for me
[13:46] <seb128> thx
[13:46] <Trevinho> it was better if I did leave it broken upstream xD 
[13:46] <seb128> bug #1868409	
[13:47] <didrocks> +1 ofc :)
[13:47] <Laney> that's already being worked
[13:47] <seb128> marcustomlinson is working on that
[13:47] <seb128> right
[13:47] <seb128> let's take it
[13:47] <seb128> bug #1869835
[13:48] <seb128> I didn't notice that problem here
[13:48] <seb128> but I've only one layout configured
[13:48] <seb128> I would vote +1 if we get more reports
[13:48] <didrocks> 2 layouts here as well, no issue
[13:48] <didrocks> (both fr)
[13:49] <seb128> k, so I vote -1 for now
[13:49] <seb128> Olivier upstreamed it
[13:49] <seb128> I would put it back on the list if we get other reports though
[13:49] <oSoMoN> yeah, fair enough if I'm the only one seeing it
[13:49] <jibel> no issue here either with 2 layouts
[13:49] <didrocks> oSoMoN: let’s discuss after the report, I have an issue with layout switching, may be related
[13:49] <oSoMoN> sure
[13:50] <seb128> bug #1868666
[13:50] <seb128> it's a champagne/incomplete from previous week that didn't get a follow up
[13:50] <seb128> let's skip, I will untag before next meeting if it's not updated
[13:51] <seb128> bug #1869747	
[13:52] <hellsworth> seb128: before moving to rls-ff-tracking, could we evaluate a focal bug that i just labeled incoming?
[13:52] <seb128> the user submitted with apport now but it didn't get retraced yet/isn't accessible
[13:52] <seb128> hellsworth, yes, let me finish the list and I ping you
[13:52] <hellsworth> ofc
[13:53] <seb128> next one is assigned to marco
[13:53] <seb128> will target
[13:54] <seb128> bug #1865838	
[13:54] <hellsworth> we already talked about that one, didn't we?
[13:54] <seb128> yes, it's untagged now, the tag was left by error
[13:54] <seb128> k, what's the new bug? :)
[13:55] <hellsworth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1869561
[13:55] <hellsworth> basically in 6.4.X libreoffice-help is broken
[13:55] <hellsworth> rico found this over the weekend and i did some testing
[13:55] <hellsworth> seems like we should fix it
[13:55] <seb128> sounds like an important issue yes
[13:55] <seb128> +1 from me
[13:56] <hellsworth> i agree. +1
[13:56] <seb128> k, let's take it
[13:56] <oSoMoN> +1
[13:56] <seb128> and that's it for incoming
[13:56] <Laney> sry got distracted
[13:56] <Laney> did everybody else too? :P
[13:56] <Laney> WOAH
[13:56] <Trevinho> na
[13:56] <Trevinho> you bad
[13:57] <kenvandine> :)
[13:57] <seb128> lol
[13:57] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:57] <hellsworth> seb128: so i should change the tag to tracking then?
[13:57] <seb128> hellsworth, I'm doing that
[13:57] <hellsworth> ah ok. thanks :)
[13:57] <seb128> bug #1733321 we already discussed
[13:58] <seb128> bug #1865838 also
[13:58] <seb128> bug #1869819	
[13:58] <Laney> I got all of that: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8bP6wcppsZ/ in one go
[13:58] <seb128> OEM request, they submitted the patch upstream
[13:58] <seb128> I vote +1
[13:59] <seb128> I will take the task to help them landing it
[13:59] <seb128> k
[13:59] <seb128> that's it for bugs
[13:59] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:59] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:00] <marcustomlinson> looks so clean
[14:00] <seb128> indeed
[14:00] <seb128> nothing to handle there, good work team :)
[14:00] <marcustomlinson> well done
[14:00] <marcustomlinson> indeed
[14:00] <seb128> (the libreoffice one is only because it's not built on all archs yet)
[14:00] <seb128> #topic AOB
[14:01] <seb128> one topic from me, beta week, please try to help with ISO testing
[14:01] <seb128> and do update to focal if you didn't do that yet!
[14:01] <marcustomlinson> callmepk should be added to the meeting roll call :)
[14:02] <seb128> oh
[14:02] <seb128> you said 'callmepk' early, I though it was a typo/weird word :p
[14:02] <marcustomlinson> haha
[14:02] <seb128> I didn't realize it was Patrick
[14:02] <callmepk> umm
[14:02] <seb128> I didn't see him active on the channel yet
[14:02] <seb128> callmepk, welcome on board!
[14:02] <Laney> baptism of 🔥 for a new team member
[14:02] <kenvandine> callmepk: welcome!
[14:03] <hellsworth> o/ callmepk !
[14:03] <callmepk> Sorry for not seeing that, still get familiar with IRC
[14:03] <Trevinho> welcome callmepk 
[14:03] <marcustomlinson> ha isn't it like 10pm for you callmepk
[14:03] <marcustomlinson> welcome to the team
[14:03] <Laney> Someone should probably talk you through what on earth just happened in here before expecting participation
[14:03] <callmepk> Thanks, yep it is 10pm here
[14:03] <Trevinho> Something maybe personal, but I've applied for being a desktop team member, so if some other of desktoppers can help with that... :-) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2020-March/006289.html
[14:04] <kenvandine> Trevinho: awesome
[14:04] <Trevinho> :)
[14:04] <oSoMoN> happy to chime in, but I don't remember sponsoring any of your uploads, would my +1 count?
[14:05] <seb128> kenvandine, didrocks, can maybe help?
[14:05] <pieq> seb128, hey, another question popped in my mind: is it possible to see the release timeline for a given package? I'd like to know what were the latest bluez releases (in 20.04) and, if possible, an associated changelog
[14:05] <Trevinho> I guess it does, but don't worry I assume it's better if it is based on facts :)
[14:05] <kenvandine> Trevinho: i'll reply
[14:05] <seb128> pieq, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+publishinghistory
[14:05] <Laney> EOM?
[14:06] <seb128> looks like it
[14:06] <seb128> thanks team
[14:06] <hellsworth> thanks for a short meeting!
[14:06] <seb128> #endmeeting
[14:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 14:06:18 2020 UTC.  
[14:06] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-03-31-13.30.moin.txt
[14:06] <Laney> thanks
[14:06] <marcustomlinson> thanks
[14:06] <seb128> np!
[14:06] <Trevinho> thanks
[14:06] <oSoMoN> thanks
[14:07] <seb128> ah, g-c-c and pango migrated, happy time
[14:07] <seb128> kenvandine, popey, you will be able to play minecraft again
[14:08] <Laney> best quality hints
[14:08] <seb128> Trevinho, and fractional scaling UI is in beta now :)
[14:08] <kenvandine> lol
[14:08] <seb128> Laney, thanks!
[14:08] <popey> :)
[14:08] <Trevinho> yay
[14:08] <kenvandine> thx seb128 
[14:08] <popey> seb128 <3 thank you.
[14:08] <seb128> np!
[14:08] <seb128> I hope I just didn't ruin the snapcraft summit's productivity :p
[14:08] <popey> :)
[14:09] <Laney> smcv's feedback seemed fair btw
[14:09] <pieq> seb128, thanks, exactly what I was looking for. And, indeed, 5.53-0ubuntu2 was released last week... before that, I could connect BT devices, so it's very likely a regression in that package
[14:09] <pieq> but the weird thing is that it's a security update...
[14:09] <seb128> pieq, it's a security update, try downgrading to 0ubuntu1 see if that makes a diffeence?
[14:10] <pieq> seb128, how can I downgrade a package?
[14:11] <pieq> (0ubuntu1 was released... 4 minutes after 0ubuntu2 according to the link :))
[14:11] <pieq> I think I would have to roll back to 5.52 from Feb 27th
[14:12] <seb128> pieq, download the debs on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/5.53-0ubuntu1/+build/18766720 and sudo dpkg -iO *.deb
[14:13] <pieq> seb128, thanks. I'll try that tomorrow. It's pretty late here now.
[14:13] <pieq> Bonne fin de journée !
[14:14] <seb128> pieq, bonne nuit
[14:14] <seb128> pieq, the UI is confusing but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/5.53-0ubuntu1/+publishinghistory
[14:14] <seb128>  Published on 2020-02-26 
[14:14] <seb128> pieq, 0ubuntu1 was published for like a month
[14:15] <seb128> (need to click on the second > to have the detail)
[14:19] <didrocks> oSoMoN: so, the issue I have with layout switching is in the lock screen
[14:19] <didrocks> if you have layout2 in your session
[14:19] <didrocks> lock screen
[14:19] <didrocks> switch to layout1
[14:19] <didrocks> then, you back on your session but still with layout2
[14:19] <didrocks> you lock the screen again
[14:19] <didrocks> and layout2, as it’s the one in your session
[14:20] <didrocks> (I did spot it only once, didn’t retry if I can reproduce or not)
[14:20] <didrocks> unsure if that can help you inr your debug
[14:20] <oSoMoN> didrocks, that looks like a different issue than mine, and I think I saw an upstream bug report that would match this
[14:20] <didrocks> ack
[14:21] <oSoMoN> didrocks, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/issues/461 maybe?
[14:21] <didrocks> oSoMoN:looks like it, I’ll amend with the fact that the session isn’t changed either
[14:22] <didrocks> thx!
[14:22] <oSoMoN> yw
[14:32] <ricotz> libreoffice amd64 build is still kicking
[14:53] <oSoMoN> ricotz, it's actually done now, just need to wait for the launchpad builder to clean up and upload
[14:56] <oSoMoN> xnox, hey, I've prepared a merge of nodejs 10.19.0 from debian unstable, would you mind sponsoring it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1863463/comments/8
[14:57] <oSoMoN> I've successfully built it and ran autopkgtests for all architectures in a PPA
[14:59] <xnox> oSoMoN:  yes, i can review that. Did you dput the built source package somewhere? either ppa or like people.canonical.com?
[14:59] <xnox> oSoMoN:  it might be easier to review something i can download with `dget` rather that massive debdiff
[15:12] <oSoMoN> xnox, everything is there: https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/sponsoring/nodejs-10.19.0/
[15:13] <xnox> tah
[15:14] <oSoMoN> xnox, and the PPA I used for testing is https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/nodejs-10.19-focal/+packages
[15:24] <seb128> Laney, wooot, plymouth made it :)
[15:26] <xnox> seb128:  so i'm doing casper testing tomorrow?! or will we have a iso respin today too?
[15:26] <seb128> xnox, I'm also waiting to be able to test that, it looks like from #ubuntu-release we will probably get a build started soon
[15:27] <seb128> probably to test tomorrow morning at this point for me
[15:27] <seb128> unless I come back in the evening, which I might...
[15:34] <Laney> great
[16:03] <seb128> Trevinho, what icons size does appindicator needs?
[16:07] <fossfreedom> seb128: 22px is the expected size for appindicator icons
[16:30] <Trevinho> seb128: so, yeah 22px is expected... Buuuut, actually in gnome-shell the system icons are 16px, so the appindicator extension now follows that rule
[16:30] <Trevinho> so we can say that it was expected
[16:31] <Trevinho> as having 22px icons would imply no vertical padding in the panel, and that's bad, unless we don't decide patching the panel to take more vertical space (24px as was in unity)
[17:04] <seb128> fossfreedom, Trevinho, in focal update-notifier livepatch icons aren't right. update-notified does ask livepatch-ok / livepatch-warning icons but only ships a svg but the indicator side prefers to use the livepatch.png provided by yaru (so fallbacking the name and using the wrong icon), I guess we need to provide icons in addition to the svg one
[17:04] <seb128> that would be 16x16 or 22x22 ones then?
[17:18] <seb128> Trevinho, wooooot, congrats on joining the ~ubuntu-desktop on launchpad!
[17:30] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, congrats!
[17:58] <KGB-2> mutter tags 4d37d94 Simon McVittie upstream/3.36.1 * Upstream version 3.36.1 * https://deb.li/3DMXV
[17:59] <KGB-2> mutter tags 4d37d94 Simon McVittie upstream/3.36.1 * tag deleted
[18:01] <KGB-2> mutter pristine-tar 28ff4dd Simon McVittie mutter_3.36.1.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_3.36.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_3.36.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/dObc
[18:01] <KGB-2> mutter upstream/latest c8ee04d Simon McVittie * pushed 94 commits * https://deb.li/31cky
[18:02] <KGB-2> mutter tags 8d0c4b4 Simon McVittie upstream/3.36.1 * Upstream version 3.36.1 * https://deb.li/3DMXV
[18:18] <KGB-2> gnome-shell pristine-tar 8855384 Simon McVittie gnome-shell_3.36.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-shell_3.36.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-shell_3.36.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3lcQ7
[18:18] <KGB-2> gnome-shell upstream/latest f4f3b81 Simon McVittie * pushed 171 commits * https://deb.li/9ZuU
[18:18] <KGB-2> gnome-shell tags 775c28c Simon McVittie upstream/3.36.1 * Upstream version 3.36.1 * https://deb.li/35VSF
[18:19] <KGB-2> gnome-shell debian/master Simon McVittie * [open] merge request !37: WIP: 3.36.1 * https://deb.li/PVai
[18:19] <KGB-2> mutter debian/master Simon McVittie * [open] merge request !58: WIP: 3.36.1 * https://deb.li/3cOHh
[18:59] <Trevinho> seb128 (and Olivier, but he's out :D) thanks!! 
[19:01] <Trevinho> seb128: and also that g-s fix merged
[19:02] <Trevinho> KGB-2: HIIIIII (thanks Laney)
[19:02] <KGB-2> Trevinho: We either would better monitorize shareware services, or need to maximize GPRS applet portals for debugging the development of AI.
[19:02] <Trevinho> desktoppers: that's our new friend ^^^
[19:02] <sarnold> oh sure, the bot would like more AI funding, surprise surprise
[19:03] <Trevinho> haha
[19:25] <rikardGn> helllo
[19:26] <rikardGn> I unfortunteatly missed the meeting. I would like to adress the following to problems I have in ubntu 18.04:
[19:28] <rikardGn> When using the nvidia closed source driver I'm not able to run my integrated vega graphics in my ryzen 5 at the same time with my geforce gtx 1650 super
[19:29] <rikardGn> My ubuntu 18.04 also won't boot properly and hangs in the middle when using my geforce gtx1650 graphics card
[19:29] <seb128> rikardGn, hey, try #ubuntu for user support
[19:29] <rikardGn> aha
[19:29] <rikardGn> is that the appropriate forum?
[19:30] <seb128> yes
[19:30] <rikardGn> ok thanks
[20:32] <robert_ancell> Thanks seb128 for finishing off the g-c-c scaling patch!
[21:27] <seb128> robert_ancell, np!