 does rebuilding mean that the iso is being "compiled" again?:
 Yes.
 Well "built" perse.
 so I'll wait ... maybe a long time: :) (re @bashfulrobot: Well "built" perse.)
 There were some issues earlier. I had not checked the status.
 go to... simulate  dual boot LOL:
 Hey all :) Been using Ubuntu Studio for several years. Saw the call for beta testers and happy to help
 welcome Zachariah
 hi @scubaTech
 glad to have you onboard
 Hi @philipz!
 I've been using Kubuntu for quite a while. I had been using 16.04 because of compatibility with MapR and SQL Server. My main system is 18.04, but I have an empty 256GB nVME SSD that is just waiting to have 20.04 installed. My USB 3.0 stick just got the installer on.
[02:22] <valorie> nice!
 it's close:
 Hi all

 hi @hungnkUET
 i am using Kubuntu 20.04 and when i download chormium from terminal ( sudo apt install chormium-brower )
 i can not find it on Internet dogegory. I have to use command "chromium-browser" to open it from terminal. It is a bug right ? And i am going here to report it.
[02:55] <valorie> did it download with that misspelled command?
[02:55] <valorie> afaik chromium is only available in Ubuntu as a snap
[02:55] <valorie> this is not a place to flle bugs, no
 You are correct. https://www.google.com/url?q=https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjl0eq528PoAhVUrZ4KHVXvDU0QFjAAegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw13Birn-EEpS0JIUiryc-4g (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <valorie> afaik chromium is only available in Ubuntu as a snap)
 Still, let's make sure we're not filing bugs here or linking bugs we've filed, only discussion about testing. :)
 👍
 to all flavors with twitter accounts, lets retweet this and also tweet out our own - https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1244819586916073477
 I gotchu 💪 Not a flavour but I have good taste ™️ (re @philipz: to all flavors with twitter accounts, lets retweet this and also tweet out our own - https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1244819586916073477)
 I gotchu 💪 I’m not a flavour but I have good taste ™️ (edited) (re @philipz: to all flavors with twitter accounts, lets retweet this and also tweet out our own - https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1244819586916073477)
 thanks @schykle for spreading the word
 lets spread the word on facebook as well
 welcome @AlexeyNikitin01
 welcome @BugShell
 nice vid @schykle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MAdkwuWg0
 ❤️
 I hope it gets more people interested! :D
 Привет всем
 beta builds seem to be out - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds
[04:28] <valorie> it is, however it will be respun once libreoffice finishes rebuilding
[04:29] <valorie> most of us flavors include it in our ISOs, and it was breaking all of 'em
 @schykle its good to include your hardware configuration and install options in the comment section of test results. like if its a VM or real hardware and some basic hardware info (cpu, ram, graphics, etc)
 xubutu's tweet for those that wish to retweet - https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1244851920738455553
 I'm booting to my USB now.
 welcome @williamconna
 Anyone else have their screen turn green with Night Color rather than red?
 @RikMills @Sick_Rimmit or valorie: ^^^
[06:18] <valorie> not me.....
[06:18] <valorie> works perfectly so far
 I think it's an issue with nVidia cards using the native driver.
 I think in order to implement the fix you have to edit your X11.conf file.
[06:19] <valorie> I'm using nvidia and their driver.....
[06:20] <valorie> otoh I have a sys76 machine and use the system76 PPA to control the nvidia drivers
 This is a fresh install of 20.04 from today's build. But I think it happened on my last system and I fixed it by editing X11.conf.
 Sorry, Xorg.conf.
 Time to try Starcraft II in Wine!
 Anyone else getting strange lines in their Konsole windows? I'm getting white and orange lines between the character rows, and occasionally in between menu bar option rectangles.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Zachariah: wich flavour are you on?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> for those who are testing lubuntu 20.04, i filed bug #1869696 yesterday
 welcome Davit
 lotuspsychje: Zachariah's on kubuntu
 🙏 (re @philipz: welcome Davit)
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> philipz: tnx
 Yes, Kubuntu. I've been a KDE person for the last 12 years.
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Zachariah: wich nvidia chipset & driver are you using?
 EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2 Driver Version: 440.64
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> that sounds like the latest driver indeed, did you try a switch of driver versions yet Zachariah ?
 No, I do not want to downgrade drivers ever. This is not a show-stopper since the lines never cross actual text. I was just wondering if it was happening to anyone else. It seems only to happen in Konsole and no other applidogion.
 I will make a note of it in the bug reporter once I get some screenshots.
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> Zachariah: drivers switching doesnt really mean downgrading, in some cases that could fix things, i reccomend to test
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> specially with graphical glitches
 Ok, a side-switch then? Are you suggesting I uninstall the nVidia driver from Universe and then download directly from their site?
 never heard of that (re @philipz: @RikMills @Sick_Rimmit or valorie: ^^^)
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> Zachariah: no, check ubuntu-drivers list, to see the driver versions available for your card on the ubuntu repos
 Switching to 390 did not help. I will probably try switching to 430 in a minute. I don't think it's a driver issue. Nothing else is affected one bit.
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx for testing that Zachariah
[08:13] <RikMills> we might get new beta candidate ISOs later today, but at the moment that is still blocked
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> cool tnx RikMills
 How much time does the Ubuntu 20.04 installer takes normally to load?
 After the initial screen, it gets stuck for me on loading screen (re @akshettrj: How much time does the Ubuntu 20.04 installer takes normally to load?)
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> akshettrj: try pressing F1 to switch textboot, see if its the integrity check lagging?
 After sometime it starts printing fsck:md5sums% again and again (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <lotuspsychje> akshettrj: try pressing F1 to switch textboot, see if its the integrity check lagging?)
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> akshettrj: yes thats a known bug, press S to skip for now till its fixed please
 Yeah sure
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> bug #1867065
 Thanks
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> akshettrj: welcome ; )
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
 hi BluesKaj
 cool:
 to all the flavors and testers, please try to keep the buzz going about #UbuntuTestingWeek throughout the testing week on social media and any other mediums to promote all aspects of contributions that can make it into the LTS, like ISO testing, bug hunting, and translations
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> philipz: can we get a link in #ubuntu+1 in topic perhaps?
 👍☺️ (re @philipz: to all the flavors and testers, please try to keep the buzz going about #UbuntuTestingWeek throughout the testing week on social media and any other mediums to promote all aspects of contributions that can make it into the LTS, like ISO testing, bug hunting, and translations)
 lotuspsychje: if it hasn't been announced in there yet, then it should be
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> it has not
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> philipz: can i also propose someone makes a new tweet about this at: https://twitter.com/ubuntu
 please see who can put it into the topic and have the link as https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-20-04-testing-week/15043
 lotuspsychje: @popeydc is on getting it into the ubuntu twitter
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> great
 I dont know if its some new implementation they are following but my ubuntu doesnt have the package installer, i mean i cannot install .deb files directly by double clicking them. Is this because they are using snap primarily now?
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> philipz: the UWN guys also made an article in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue624
 I am new in using ubuntu.. (re @akshettrj: I dont know if its some new implementation they are following but my ubuntu doesnt have the package installer, i mean i cannot install .deb files directly by double clicking them. Is this because they are using snap primarily now?)
 lotuspsychje: yes i knew :D thanks again @guiverc
 @akshettrj if you double click a .deb, it should open in the software center
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> philipz: do you know if the blog guys will make an article too? https://ubuntu.com/blog
 It opens archive manager (re @philipz: @akshettrj if you double click a .deb, it should open in the software center)
 lotuspsychje: not sure. its all in popey's hands, but he assured yesterday that we definitely will get on twitter
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> great
[12:59] <popey> We weren't planning on doing an ubuntu.com blog, no
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> ok
[13:03] <popey> We will likely not do a social post until the beta is out.
 Solved it... Nvm (re @akshettrj: It opens archive manager)
 translations... (re @philipz: to all the flavors and testers, please try to keep the buzz going about #UbuntuTestingWeek throughout the testing week on social media and any other mediums to promote all aspects of contributions that can make it into the LTS, like ISO testing, bug hunting, and translations)
 my native language is brazilian portuguese, but i use the system in english ... (re @philipz: to all the flavors and testers, please try to keep the buzz going about #UbuntuTestingWeek throughout the testing week on social media and any other mediums to promote all aspects of contributions that can make it into the LTS, like ISO testing, bug hunting, and translations)
 I'll see how the Portuguese translations are in a little while :)
 I can help translations to brailian portuguese on Ubuntu Budgie. since i reviewed all of them in the last month
 @Tohsaka_Chan if you get some time, please help with these
 https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/cosmic/+lang/pt_BR
 https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu/pt_BR/+translate
 good (re @philipz: https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/cosmic/+lang/pt_BR)
 in the ISO testcases, it mentions "The slideshow is entirely in your language", so translations are beneficial for the installer
 If you  need any support I can help you (re @Tohsaka_Chan: good)
 this is very good :):
 the contributor docs are less crucial. most crucial is the installer slides and the documentation (user-docs) which only 7 are untranslated
 @lipe66 can you check on the 1 'need review':
 Spanish isn't full translated (re @philipz: the contributor docs are less crucial. most crucial is the installer slides and the documentation (user-docs) which only 7 are untranslated)
 yes many languages arent, so all are welcome to contribute to it
 I'll try to but the Spanish community team doesn't accept me. (re @philipz: yes many languages arent, so all are welcome to contribute to it)
 sad (re @Reinaldo_Espinosa: I'll try to but the Spanish community team doesn't accept me.)
 yes it unfortunate that this is a barrier for contributors, but to ensure quality, some barriers have to be set
 But how you can improve the quality of translations if you don't accept new members to the community?
 And you're overwhelmed with your work. At least is what I can see. In any other way I couldn't explain why "off" is usually translated "apagado" when in Spanish it depend on the context for example WiFi isn't "apagado" but it is deactivated or desactivado. In English this could sound like a  crazy think to say but for us (all the people who speak Spanish as our mother tong
 And you're overwhelmed with your work. At least is what I can see. In any other way I couldn't explain why "off" is usually translated "apagado" when in Spanish it depend on the context for example WiFi isn't "apagado" but it is deactivated or "desactivado". In English this could sound like a  crazy think to say but for us (all the people who speak Spanish as our mother to
 like most contributions, it has to go through gate keepers, and if your contributions aren't getting in, you have to contact the gate keepers directly and if that doesnt work, you have to look at options to go over their head to the people above them
 ok I am on it (re @philipz: )
 Well, like portuguese, that you have Portugal Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese were the english term has 2 different translations, i imagine that spanish can be problematic also
 I can say that is .t. cos I am pt
 😄
 I had to manually set Software Center as default opener, but that should have been the default from the beginning. (re @akshettrj: Solved it... Nvm)
 With beta freeze having hit yesterday, and with the franticness at which I've been moving, I really need to take a day off today. If something comes up and it's Ubuntu Studio related and it's urgent, give me a ping.
 i think i reported the same bug in a video
 no i guess that was some other default app not being assigned correctly in ubuntu :D
 this is very cool:
 it is? (re @Tohsaka_Chan: )
 i not spak english LOL (re @RikMills: it is?)
 i not speak english LOL (edited) (re @RikMills: it is?)
 well, I'm still not sure why you showed that. you haven't installed the build dependencies of what you are trying to build, but ****shrug**** (re @Tohsaka_Chan: i not speak english LOL)
 now i hate slang :) (re @RikMills: well, I'm still not sure why you showed that. you haven't installed the build dependencies of what you are trying to build, but ****shrug****)
 welcome @MateoBioengineer
 Hi, I install Ubuntu 20.04 daily build the las 3 days, and the update for today have a bug
 I can't launch snaps apps
 what happens if you try to?
 (from the command line for example doing snap run (snaprun))
 One moment
 (from the command line for example doing snap run (snapname)) (edited)
 which snap did you try?

 ooh, i had this today!
 I know the workaround. I'll get a bug filed
 sudo service apparmor restart
 do that
 then try again
 Thanks
 I have a question, why did they choose zfs instead of btrfs or xfs?
 Our teams evaluated the options and feel more confident supporting zfs
 XFS does not have all the management capability. BTRFS - not near the production workloads in the industry. Some historical issues w/ BTRFS. ZFS also has industry momentum. I'm speculating.
[19:13] <wxl> zfs has seen extensive use in production environments for years
 Sounds fair
[19:14] <wxl> although that has been primarily within the confines of unix. there's been a long effort to bring zfs support to linux
 the BSDs have been enjoying it for quite some time
 yeah, why shouldn't we have some of the fun :D
 I have a video lined up about it
 And considering FreeBSD is going to rebase with ZFS on Linux....
 all comes down to licensing :D
 For those interested, https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2018-December/072422.html (re @bashfulrobot: And considering FreeBSD is going to rebase with ZFS on Linux....)
 yep there was a major zfs company that moved that way so everyone had to follow
[19:16] <wxl> btrfs is intriguing as it was meant to compete to btrfs but it's lagging behind
[19:17] <wxl> uhh meant to compete to zfs
 hahahaha
[19:17] <wxl> curiously rhel dropped support for it (btrfs)
 Ok, thanks
 think the only distro using butter is suse
 It certainly used to use it by default, dunno if it still does.
 Plenty of other people do too. The Jolla phone does. NetGear ReadyNAS devices too
 Now one more question, how do I run this fingerprint reader in Ubuntu to login
 What laptop?

 does ubuntu have a fingerprint login option?
 Lenovo IdeaPad s540
 Yes, but! Not all devices are supported, sadly.
 assume its an upstream issue right?
 at least it recognizes it, in deepin and arcolinux it did not appear in the list of lsusb
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/usbutils/+bug/1721909
 Might have to do some searches for that USB ID 27c6:55b4 to see
 The problem is that some finger print readers need a binary blob firmware to work.
 Most of the older devices do work, e.g. my X220 and T450 work fine, but newer models are less compatible.
 Where is the best place to download the Beta ISOs? I got mine from cdimage.ubuntu.com . Is that the correct lodogion?
 yep
 The beta isn't out yet, not until thursday or so
 Yes. The daily.
 Thanks (re @popeydc: Might have to do some searches for that USB ID 27c6:55b4 to see)
 But as Alan said... No beta yet.
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
 That's the one.
 any update about testdrive?
 For Ubuntu proper. The flavours have their own respective daily URLS.
 did dustin kurklin respond
 Ok, thanks! I just wanted to make sure I was using the right one. The text on my lock screen is tiny, but the global scale takes effect when I log in. Is there any way to fix the lock screen? I'm using a 43" 4K TV for a monitor, but the text is even smaller than it should be for 4K. My 18.04 looks correct.
 I don't want to take this off topic, but I have some questions. Ok to contact direct? (re @Zachariah: Ok, thanks! I just wanted to make sure I was using the right one. The text on my lock screen is tiny, but the global scale takes effect when I log in. Is there any way to fix the lock screen? I'm using a 43" 4K TV for a monitor, but the text is even smaller than it should be fo
 Go ahead. I'm here.
 For that you can install gnome-teak-tool in order to increase the font size
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200331)
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[20:35] <maggotbrain> kinda sucks that I have to do a large software update immediately after installing.
[20:37] <maggotbrain> Are there any scripts available for me to stress the install?
[20:38] <valorie> maggotbrain: there should be no updates to a fresh install of 20.04
 Depends when you do the install. It's just the delta between the day the iso was made that you downloaded and now
[20:39] <maggotbrain> valorie: that is simply not true.
 It simply is true if you install immediately after the iso is made :D
[20:39] <valorie> if you are doing dailies, then as popey said, there will be a daily delta
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[20:40] <valorie> while we're in beta freeze there will be few changes/additions
[20:42] <maggotbrain> I followed one of the links to the ISO on https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-20-04-testing-week/
 Look at the date stamp on the file
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
 2020-03-29 02:17
[20:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200331)
 It's now two days later.
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200331)
 well thats the last daily for xubuntu
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds/209834/downloads
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds/209834/downloads
 Yup, all good, working as designed.
 signing off. have a good night all and stay safe.
 o/
 checked your channel but didnt see the new video :(
 1st candidate ISOs for the beta are starting to roll in. can be tested, but be aware they may be re-rolled at any point
 1st candidate ISOs for the beta are starting to roll in. can be tested, but be aware they may be re-spun at any point (edited)
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