[00:01] <mparillo> New non-beta ISOs for testing week: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds
[00:13] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> So do we need to test or wait for an official release/announcement?
[00:50] <valorie> @DarinMiller are you saying that the beta images disappeared?
[00:50] <valorie> I thought that they were respun
[00:52] <valorie> 20200331 in the above notice about the beta matches all those images in your link
[00:52] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Earlier, Rik was saying the beta iso's were not really beta (just daily respins?) and that more spins were on the way.  So I was waiting for the dust to settle before testing again.
[00:55] <valorie> the new one is the un-bugged-libreoffice respin
[00:56] <valorie> if serious bug reports surface we can rebuild with fixes, but testing is def. needed
[00:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> ok
[00:58]  * valorie might be testing tonight
[01:19] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> the mandatory checksums add a few minutes to each test time...
[01:20] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Hey, they fixed the mouse on the OEM install!
[01:20] <valorie> \o/
[01:24] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> and it crashes after wireless connection screen...../o\
[01:47] <mparillo> DarinMiller: That is a good test, because I had tested my normal use cases with the previous ISO, and was going to do the OEM next, but I would not have caught the wireless since in a VM, my network emulates LAN.
[01:48] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> I can't even do a normal install.... crashes same place...
[01:48] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Will attempt a wired connection to see if I can get network connection menu...
[01:53] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> nope, wired connection also crashes.
[01:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Can someone run a sha1sum on their iso?  I get 9c6e2ec415034c5564c2b8efb8ca0a0dade17f5e which does not match http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20200331/MD5SUMS
[01:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> (42df3851d8b3db46b6f951558499d79e)
[01:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> attempting a fresh zsync....
[02:00] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> nm, comparing apples and oranges (should be using md5sum -c MD5SUMS)
[02:04] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> md5sum matches.  Trying other hw.....
[02:12] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> same issue on 2nd laptop.  Is anyone able to install with today's iso?
[02:14] <valorie> oh gosh
[02:14] <valorie> DarinMiller maybe join the Telegram group #ubuntu-quality ?
[02:15] <valorie> https://t.me/UbuntuTesters
[02:15] <valorie> see if the other flavors are running into the same stuff
[02:15]  * valorie is wrapped up with some other stuff rn
[02:18] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Almost everyone else has moved away from ubiquity...
[02:19] <valorie> only Lubuntu has done that
[02:19] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> I tested ubuntu Sunday and if they are using ubiquity, it looks entirely different than Kubuntu's.
[02:24] <valorie> sure
[02:24] <valorie> many of them might look different
[02:24] <valorie> same code though
[02:25] <valorie> icky!
[07:21] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> @DarinMiller, These ones are candidates for beta, but may be respun again
[09:06] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> good morning
[09:07] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> Todays daily iso is crashing like Darin says
[09:08] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> Already a fix uploaded
[09:08] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> (Photo, 911x796) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/PO32IbpO/file_26495.jpg
[09:09] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> @RikMills, So it will get fixed tomorrow or what?
[09:09] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> @Santa, ISO should be respun today
[09:10] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> @RikMills, allright thank you very much
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:28] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.4-36-ge2cb004 * Harald Sitter: src/package.cpp
[12:28] <pursuivant> fix negation
[12:28] <pursuivant> previously it'd only apply to the left hand side of the bitwise &
[12:28] <pursuivant> https://commits.kde.org/libqapt/e2cb0041bf09dd2be5f103b0b396e9f3a79bac3d
[12:28] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.4-33-g4d15c42 * Harald Sitter: src (3 files)
[12:28] <pursuivant> port away from deprecated QLatin1Literal
[12:28] <pursuivant> https://commits.kde.org/libqapt/4d15c42427761dee430a06a8004d8eb9840fff58
[12:28] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.4-32-g5033a0f * Harald Sitter: src/debfile.cpp
[12:28] <pursuivant> port to apt-pkg abi 600
[12:28] <pursuivant> looks the only concerning change is that md5.h is gone
[12:28] <pursuivant> https://commits.kde.org/libqapt/5033a0fd25c7889334c1cb0cecc845fbf14be1b7
[12:28] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.4-34-g0731dab * Harald Sitter: autotests/sourceslisttest.cpp
[12:28] <pursuivant> port away from deprecated QString::null
[12:28] <pursuivant> https://commits.kde.org/libqapt/0731dabf198bd178bdc841cdf9da61edfc2c3be7
[12:28] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.4-35-g86fb808 * Harald Sitter: src/backend.cpp
[12:28] <pursuivant> port away from deprecated toList
[12:28] <pursuivant> https://commits.kde.org/libqapt/86fb808d42c306eac23b7db796e8fadfacbe9546
[12:29] <pursuivant> libqapt (master) v3.0.4-37-g3f73b48 * Harald Sitter: CMakeLists.txt
[12:29] <pursuivant> bump version to 3.0.5
[12:29] <pursuivant> in preparation of release
[12:29] <pursuivant> https://commits.kde.org/libqapt/3f73b48371fa2a7faf3d0555ea90bcbb66097ed0
[12:31] <RikMills> sitter: needed in focal? ^
[12:32] <RikMills> oh, a release, so I guess so?
[12:33] <sitter> fails to build without it for me anyway
[12:33] <RikMills> right. thanks!
[12:45] <RikMills> sitter: the porting away from depreciated stuff. that will not break things with qt 5.12, correct?
[12:47] <sitter> RikMills: shouldn't at least, those deprecations are ancient (4->5 even). freel free to test though, release isn't out yet ;)
[12:48] <RikMills> indeed. saw that it is in incoming. thanks again
[14:16] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[15:29] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> The Kubuntu installer now aligns with the Ubuntu installer in that it prohibits installation to USB drives. I plan to file a bug unless this decision was deliberate...
[15:30] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> I have no idea
[15:31] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> OK, filing bug now....
[15:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Strange... "ubuntu-bug ubiquity" throws an warning/error "This is not an official Ubuntu package..."
[15:38] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> It worked fine yesterday....
[15:38] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> should I specify ubiquity-casper?
[15:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> @DarinMiller, WTH?
[15:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> 'zactly!
[15:41] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> From a live boot 20.04 session (today's ISO), "apt list ubiquity*" does not show ubiquity....
[15:42] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> maybe a bug in ubuntu-bug 😂
[15:42] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Bugs are so much fun... :)
[15:43] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> ubunutu-bug is correct... the package is not on the list... wait.... let me do a sudo apt update....
[15:43] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> that SAU fixed it....
[15:44] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> odd
[16:00] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> I'm installing the last iso build in a VM
[16:00] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> I this one the installed didn't crash :)
[16:00] <IrcsomeBot1> <Santa> * with this one...
[16:01] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> LVM is blocking my install not that its a USB drive....
[16:08] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> @DarinMiller, Is that normal for a USB drive?
[16:10] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> On all my hardware, all I ever do is just a normal bios, ext4, standard partitions (root and home)
[16:11] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> After some googling, it seems to be strictly an LVM issue.  I rarely test the LVM option, but testing the ISO's a few days ago, I finished by testing LVM install to my USB.  I did not realize until now that LVM was causing the installer to choke an not that is was a USB connected drive.
[16:12] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/lUOWEKI5/file_26576.webp
[16:15] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Hey, that looks like wimpy...
[16:17] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/WOz1Wdj7/file_26577.webp
[16:22] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Successful 20.04 OEM install on real hw.  Yay! \o/
[16:24] <RikMills> :D
[18:02] <RikMills> where are the beta release notes?
[18:18] <RikMills> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/Beta/Kubuntu
[18:18] <RikMills> needs work
[19:08] <hangar18> Regarding Kubuntu iso version 20200401 when booting into a liveUSB is an automatic disk check expected before being able to use the live desktop?
[19:10] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Disk check on live boot is now the new normal.
[19:11] <hangar18> Is there perhaps a webpage that also details any more new normals?
[19:14] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> The main Ubuntu + Kubuntu release notes will do some of that. neither are complete at the current time though
[19:17] <hangar18> In regards to Ubuntu Notifier emails Some high-impact packages changed is there some more detailed info about this somewhere?
[19:21] <RikMills> what do you mean by 'ubuntu notifier'?
[19:22] <IrcsomeBot1> * DarinMiller was wondering the same....
[19:22] <RikMills> and they quit
[19:22] <RikMills> or timed out
[19:23] <RikMills> what do you mean by 'ubuntu notifier'?
[19:25] <hangar18> ubuntu notifier: (ubuntu.landing.team@gmail.com) to ubuntu-quality regarding automated report for the ISO manifest-diff check.
[19:27]  * RikMills still has no clue
[19:28] <RikMills> we have nothing called that
[19:30] <RikMills> !testers
[19:30] <ubottu> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping RikMills, soee, BluesKaj, mamarley, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2, crydotsnake-M for more information.
[19:31] <RikMills> we have a new candidate beta iso. please test
[19:32]  * mamarley is "at work" right now, sorry. :(
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> OK, re-zsync'ing...
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> Hmmm. then again, your morning is not that same time as mine!
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> This one is 0 tests done: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds/210012/testcases
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> yes, I thought the same.... :)  and zsync showed no changes....
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> I have not entered my live session and OEM runs yet... (technically I am WFH... :))
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> Yrah, just realised I had done live session, and then encrypted LVM, testing before I knew your fail reason
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <RikMills> and full disk
[19:37] <RikMills> mamarley: no worries
[20:36] <mparillo> This is the first real beta candidate, despite earlier tagging, correct?
[20:44] <RikMills> yes
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[22:03] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> WFH improves my Kubuntu testing capacity/capability.  Now that my company has demonstrated that WFH is viable, I may attempt for future Kubuntu crunch time events....
[22:05] <mparillo> Off-topic, but if this goes on for a couple of months, a lot of companies (and workers) are going to wonder why they were commuting on petri dishes every day.
[22:27] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> exactly....