| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:38 |
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| pavlushka | the sound goes standby instantly on 20.04, was not the case for 1804! | 05:38 |
| CarlFK32 | in syslog, saw this: python3: Libgcrypt warning: missing initialization - please fix the application | 06:31 |
| CarlFK | should I file a bug? | 06:32 |
| CarlFK32 | gnome-shell[1232]: An active wireless connection, in infrastructure mode, involves no access point? | 06:45 |
| CarlFK | that's what I am interested in. wifi sometimes takes 5 min to settle down and stay connected | 06:46 |
| pavlushka | the sound signal tunrs of sending the speaker in zzzz mode as it happens in standby mode instantly after palying any sound on 20.04, was not the case for 1804! | 08:49 |
| pavlushka | *the sound signal turns off sending the speaker in zzzz mode as it happens in standby mode instantly after palying any sound on 20.04, was not the case for 1804! | 08:49 |
| Haxxa | Is 20.04 still on schedule? | 09:52 |
| Haxxa | no changes? | 09:52 |
| lotuspsychje | untakenstupidnic: xorg is still default on 20.04 | 11:16 |
| guiverc | Haxxa, yes 20.04 is still on schedule, no changes have been made, nor are any expected | 11:17 |
| * pmjdebruijn is disappointed to see chromium becoming a snap | 11:31 | |
| lotuspsychje | yeah a lot of users have the same feeling pmjdebruijn | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | pmjdebruijn: on 18.04 its still in the repos right? | 11:33 |
| pmjdebruijn | if I recall correctly | 11:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | I still use firefox mostly | 11:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | chromium is basically unusable on 20.04 | 11:34 |
| lotuspsychje | havent tested the snap yet | 11:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | the start time alone makes it unbreable | 11:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | but to be honest I don't think snap/flatpak are a particularly great idea to begin with | 11:35 |
| pmjdebruijn | it sortof kinda nice for commercial vendors, who want to skip on making proper packages | 11:35 |
| lotuspsychje | a lot of devs choose it, because of its advantages | 11:36 |
| lotuspsychje | but i think the user should be left the choice | 11:36 |
| pmjdebruijn | you mean, it's less work | 11:36 |
| pmjdebruijn | cutting corners usually is less work :) | 11:36 |
| lotuspsychje | pmjdebruijn: it has several pro's, like its containerized, more secure, easy maintain | 11:36 |
| pmjdebruijn | but I'll refrain from going on about that, I'm probably not the first to dislike the concept | 11:36 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed | 11:37 |
| pmjdebruijn | lotuspsychje: I don't really buy into that, unless it's for untrusted apps | 11:37 |
| pmjdebruijn | but once you go down that road, it's a slippery slow | 11:37 |
| pmjdebruijn | but as I said, nice for commercial apps, for vendors who cut corner all the time | 11:38 |
| lotuspsychje | in some cases snaps can be cool, where you need a latest package, or something apt doesnt has | 11:38 |
| pmjdebruijn | you mean where people used to just have PPAs :) | 11:39 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah snaps are similar to adding a ppa, you need to trust the maintainer | 11:39 |
| * pmjdebruijn maintained a much used PPA for 10 years | 11:40 | |
| pmjdebruijn | lotuspsychje: you always need to trust a maintainer/software author regardless of packaging technology | 11:40 |
| pmjdebruijn | sure flatpak offers some protection | 11:40 |
| pmjdebruijn | but that doesn't really replace any trust you need to have | 11:42 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 11:42 |
| pmjdebruijn | which is what bothers me the most, is that the advantages are commonly overstated, and the disadvantages are commonly understated | 11:42 |
| pmjdebruijn | but for distribution of beta builds and stuff appimage usually tends to be a better choice | 11:43 |
| pmjdebruijn | but oh well | 11:43 |
| howarth | Anyone having problems with the OpenWeather gnome-shell extensions? I accepted the offer to update today under Ubuntu 19.10 and it no longer appears in the menu. I dist-upgraded to 20.04 to see if that would fix it and it still is broken. | 17:45 |
| oerheks | did you install gnome-tweak-tool, to enable them? | 17:47 |
| howarth | Thanks. That worked. Is that a change from 19.10? | 17:49 |
| howarth | Hmm. Also needed to install gnome-shell-extension-prefs | 17:52 |
| howarth | Maybe that stuff got purged out with the obsolete/unused packages the dist-upgrade process offered me | 17:52 |
| howarth | The upgrade was really seamless otherwise | 17:54 |
| howarth | Now if I could only find out if nouveau has frequency scaling yet for Nvidia GTX680 cards | 17:54 |
| howarth | Does anyone know exactly where Gnome mounts Google Drive mounts in the 20.04 file system? | 19:29 |
| Bashing-om | howarth: Does ' gvfs-mount --list ' show the mount ? | 19:30 |
| howarth | It shows the url for the mount point | 19:34 |
| howarth | what I am looking for is the location of the local mount points | 19:35 |
| howarth | Weirdly there isn't much on a google search on that | 19:37 |
| howarth | Lots of stuff about google-drive-ocamlfuse but nothing about the newer built in support for google drives | 19:38 |
| howarth | Ah | 19:48 |
| howarth | It's nested inside of /run/user/1000/gvfs | 19:48 |
| howarth | Argh, that's just all metadata | 19:52 |
| howarth | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1137888/how-to-access-mounted-online-accounts-from-filesystem | 19:52 |
| howarth | Blah | 19:53 |
| howarth | The suggestion of opening the google drive, selecting a file and using the Properties menu item just brings up a 'google-drive://' prefixed path | 19:55 |
| CarlFK | is this the place to discuss bugs? | 20:10 |
| valorie | CarlFK: as in you need help to report the bugs? | 21:23 |
| valorie | or do you need to know the packagename | 21:23 |
| CarlFK | valorie: packaename - I always get hung up on that | 21:24 |
| valorie | it will help if you give us the particulars | 21:24 |
| valorie | what flavor, etc. | 21:24 |
| valorie | the installer is "ubiquity" for all but Lubuntu | 21:24 |
| CarlFK70 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sGh4zP6yYm/ | 21:25 |
| valorie | live session is "casper" | 21:25 |
| CarlFK | installed to hd, rebooted a few times. seems to happen more when the box fist boots, but not always. | 21:26 |
| valorie | I see your paste, but what happens? | 21:26 |
| valorie | only transient errors are in your paste, from what I see | 21:27 |
| CarlFK | "wifi disconnects for a few minutes and magically comes back" is about all I got | 21:32 |
| CarlFK | valorie: what package should I file a bug against? | 22:16 |
| CarlFK | anyone want to offer a package to bug? else network manager will get attention, and if that isn't it hopefully someone will fix it | 23:19 |
| FurretUber | Hi, there are two bugs present when using modesetting instead of intel Xorg driver. Would ubuntu-bug xorg be the correct way to report the bugs against the modesetting driver? | 23:42 |
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