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stgraberdoko: I still use it on my servers, so just did a quick and dirty port to python3, uploaded now02:57
stgraber(seemed lesswork than figuring out a replacement for it)02:57
CarlFKfocal - wifi weirdness http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g5xD775kfN/  zgrep wlo1 syslog.2.gz | grep -A 500 158562664807:15
CarlFKif I should bug this, what package?07:15
CarlFKshucks - my grep didn't catch gnome-shell[1232]: An active wireless connection, in infrastructure mode, involves no access point?07:17
cpaelzerrbasak: I saw no update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjade/+bug/1869734 did this review get stuck on your side and can I do anything to help?07:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1869734 in openjade (Ubuntu) "openjade segfaults on arm (due to gcc optimization)" [Undecided,Triaged]07:22
cpaelzerI could share a login to a test system if something like that is what you are looking for07:22
jamespagecpaelzer: spend an hour with spice-html5 + websockify and libvirt - all hangs together fine with the new revisions and does what is required so I've updated the MIR and uploaded the 0.2.2 release referencing the MIR to focal09:03
jamespagethe delta was not very big tbh09:03
rbasakcpaelzer: sorry. I had given you a +1 on IRC09:33
cpaelzerrbasak: now I understand09:36
cpaelzerrbasak: for the auth trail coudl you do on the bug as well?09:36
cpaelzerjuts one line is enough09:36
rbasakSure09:36
cpaelzerthanks, it also helps me to do it when I get back to the case09:37
cpaelzerjamespage: thanks, re-checked and Ack'ed09:39
cpaelzeron the bug09:39
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jamespagecpaelzer: thanks10:00
arunpyasiHi everyone, which script is responsible for creating user for live cd?11:59
arunpyasi*script/package11:59
RikMillsjuliank: libqapt is about to get a new upstream release. would you be able to confirm that all apt porting required for focal is in that?12:50
RikMillshttps://cgit.kde.org/libqapt.git/log/12:50
juliankRikMills: you'll see if it compiles?12:51
RikMillsjuliank: lol. ok12:51
juliankAnyone has more insight into DST and bug 1824088?13:06
ubottubug 1824088 in apt (Ubuntu) "unattended upgrade ran one day after schedule" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182408813:06
juliankI have a simple workaround for daily intervals: Instead of comparing time at midnight for 24 hour difference, compare the dates13:07
juliankhttps://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/merge_requests/115/diffs13:07
juliankBut that does not really help anyone else13:07
juliankI'm unsure if there's a more sensible solution13:07
juliankOTOH, people can (and should) override the systemd timer executions13:08
juliankFiguring out how many days have passed-ish is hard13:15
Saviqdoko: hey, https://github.com/capnproto/capnproto/issues/962 fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/capnproto/+bug/1870055 - how would you suggest I proceed?14:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1870055 in capnproto (Ubuntu) "capnproto ftbfs in focal on s390x" [High,Confirmed]14:19
Saviqwe're now out of sync with Debian due to the no-change rebuild, but would we even accept a sync from Debian at this stage?14:19
seb128Saviq, depend of the content of the change, a sync is not different from an upload, it's a diff to review14:23
seb128there is no rule against syncing :)14:23
dokoSaviq: please forward to debian, and upload to ubuntu. we can re-sync it later14:34
seb128doko, thanks for filing those ftbfs bugs but no need to both for desktop ones, we do look at results and handle problems in our set so you can spare some work if you prefer...14:44
Saviqdoko: I don't have the rights to upload to archive, shall I upload to a PPA?15:16
dokoSaviq: or paste a debdiff15:32
Saviqdoko: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f8YRsNC8sk/15:40
dokoSaviq: uploaded15:45
AsciiWolfkenvandine, hi, I have noticed small typo: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/-/commit/4cde4f1cbcc7c0a17ec1442314ee97885416b1df#d490cae4d945759dee37cd8a461857f050b1ec11_13_1216:06
jwalldenHello. I'm a bit confused around Ubiquity installer. I'm trying to fully automate the install and thought I would give kickstart a go. But does Ubiquity support kickstart installation?18:52
sarnoldjwallden: take a look at this, see if it helps https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/cloud-init-and-the-live-server-installer/1459718:55
CarlFKjwallden: this might help - 20 min, minimal effort on your part https://debconf-video-team.pages.debian.net/ansible/usb_install/usb_quick_start.html18:59
juliankCarlFK: please don't19:00
CarlFKjuliank: why not?19:00
juliankCarlFK: It boots into legacy installer19:01
juliankCarlFK: jwallden is interested in ubiquity, not the legacy server installer19:01
julianksarnold: that's for subiquity, not ubiquity19:01
juliankjwallden: you're interested in the desktop, right?19:02
jwalldenIm sorry. Maybe I should mention that i I'm trying to automate install for Ubuntu Desktop19:02
sarnoldjuliank: apparently I'm confused about our installers too :)19:02
CarlFKjuliank: might be interested in fully automate the install and doesn't care which path19:02
juliankjwallden: Well, ubiquity is desktop, but it's only a typo away from subiquity :)19:02
jwalldenWhat is subiquity then?19:02
juliankCarlFK: I don't think setting up an automated install that will stop working after 20.04.0 is a reasonable suggestion19:03
juliankjwallden: subiquity is the server installer, like server ubiquity :)19:03
CarlFKjuliank: I bet it will keep working19:03
jwalldenAha! Ok ok19:03
jwalldenIm trying to remaster a Desktop image (19.10 atm) and would very much like to automate the install19:04
jwalldenTried preeseeding but didn't get it to work so thought I should try kickstart, as it seems simpler19:05
juliankI think both should work19:05
juliankbut I'm not sure19:05
CarlFKjwallden: I did some remaster things. found it much easier to start with a minimal installer and apt install / ansible  the additional packages way easier to work with19:05
CarlFKjwallden: again, 20 minutes, mostly watching bytes move to and from a usb stick.  and yes, it may break in the future, and then I'll fix it.19:07
juliankYou won't be able to fix it once we stopped building d-i19:07
CarlFKjuliank: yes I will.19:08
julianksigh19:09
jwalldenWhen was Ubiquity introduced?19:09
juliankIn 200619:09
juliankin 6.0619:09
jwalldenAha.19:10
juliankubiquity embeds a lot of d-i, the debian-installer, so shares most of the preseeding config19:11
jwalldenCarlFK: Thanks for the tip. But I think I'll need something more "basic" and, that is working in the future as well :)19:12
CarlFKjwallden: it is pretty basic, and it will keep working.  it isn't that hard to switch19:12
CarlFKjwallden: and I assure you , it it way easier to work with a rw filesystem than building an image, and then later updating that image when it stops working19:13
jwalldenMmm, I'll think about it19:13
CarlFKjwallden: easier to run the script19:14
CarlFKless debating, more trying stuff19:14
juliankWe told people 2 (?) years ago the d-i images are going away, and we're stopping building udebs19:15
juliankIt did not really make it this cycle, but this is no reason to tell people to continue to use it19:15
CarlFKjuliank: di is only a part of it.  the yml version is like 1 line.19:16
CarlFKjuliank: you should try it ;)19:16
juliankI'm not sure what you're talking about19:17
CarlFKhttps://debconf-video-team.pages.debian.net/ansible/usb_install/usb_quick_start.html19:17
jwalldenBut CarlFK, what system does that create? Debian?19:17
CarlFKjwallden: default is debain, ubuntu if you set a setting19:18
juliankWhat you should do is preseed ubiquity, and then maybe if you want to, you might as well run ansible in the target19:18
juliankModifying the live image is another approach, but not recommended or supported19:19
juliank(for desktop)19:20
jwalldenYep, Ansible is definitly in the stew :D19:20
jwalldenI guess I have to try some more with preseed19:21
juliankNow, I guess the documentation for preseeding ubiquity is a bit suboptimal19:21
jwalldenYeah, could be improved19:21
juliankAnother alternative, for multiple systems, is to install one of them (in OEM mode, possibly), and then create an image and copy that to the other machines, I guess19:22
CarlFKgross19:23
jwalldenHaha19:23
jwalldenWell, a bit hacky at least :)19:23
jwalldenI'll rather do the preeseed thing.19:23
CarlFKjwallden: don't say preeseed, that gets people riled up19:24
juliankpreesed19:24
juliank:D19:24
CarlFKjuliank: what is the new thing called, that uses yaml ?19:24
juliankCarlFK: subiquity I guess uses yaml, via curtin and cloud-init19:24
julianksubiquity is the "live" server installer19:25
cjwatson and we're stopping building udebs19:25
rafaeldtinocobdmurray: ping. could u review 2 srus for me today ?19:25
cjwatsonoops19:25
cjwatsonsorry, mispaste19:25
juliankcurtin is the backend of the installer19:25
rafaeldtinocobdmurray: the merge requests have a good review from cpaelzer already to help19:25
juliankand cloud-init configures the server on first boot19:25
juliankI think19:25
CarlFKd-i consumes a pressed file.  subiquity consumes a .. what do you call this file?19:26
juliankCarlFK: I think it's an autoinstall file?19:26
bdmurrayrafaeldtinoco: which SRUs?19:27
julianke.g. https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/subiquity/blob/master/examples/autoinstall.yaml19:27
rafaeldtinocobdmurray: 1) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pacemaker/+bug/186611919:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1866119 in pacemaker (Ubuntu Bionic) "[bionic] fence_scsi not working properly with Pacemaker 1.1.18-2ubuntu1.1" [Undecided,In progress]19:27
rafaeldtinocobdmurray: 2) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fence-agents/+bug/186552319:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1865523 in fence-agents (Ubuntu Bionic) "[bionic] fence_scsi not working properly with Pacemaker 1.1.18-2ubuntu1.1" [Medium,In progress]19:27
rafaeldtinocothis will enable Bionic to be an option for Azure new shared-disk feature.19:28
rafaeldtinoco(allowing fence-scsi to work there, as it was completely broken)19:28
juliankCarlFK: More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/AutomatedServerInstalls19:28
kenvandineAsciiWolf: thanks, i commented there.  Basically it's correct.19:32
kenvandineAsciiWolf: thx for checking though19:32
CarlFKthis might matter:  "when the answer to a question is not present in a preseed, d-i stops..."   that isn't exactly true - d-i has lots of defaults baked in.19:36
CarlFK^^ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/AutomatedServerInstalls19:36
CarlFKd-i will still be in 20.04 ?19:41
bdmurrayrafaeldtinoco: so we can use the block-proposed-bionic tag to keep fence-agents in -proposed longer19:50
rafaeldtinocogreat! I'd say 15 days at least!19:51
bdmurrayrafaeldtinoco: what is the relationship between these packages should the dependency be versioned?19:55
rafaeldtinocobdmurray: i didnt want to enforce the dependency19:58
rafaeldtinocobut we thought about it during the review19:58
rafaeldtinocopacemaker fix is independent of the fence-agents either way but we didnt want to add delta for the dependency19:59
rafaeldtinocoiirc19:59
rafaeldtinocobdmurray: thanks a lot for the review20:26
rafaeldtinocoi know these were big :\20:26
juliankCarlFK: it likely will be mostly available on 20.04.0, but won't receive updates for point releases20:42
juliankI'm not sure if and which images we stop producing before 20.04.020:42
juliankbut they'll change URL locations for 20.04.0 and that will be the last round of d-i built20:43
CarlFKon a stock usb desktop interactive installer install, I am having odd wifi issues.  is this the place or #ubuntu+1?  or log a bug against nm because that is my best guess21:11
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