[13:11] @Eickmeyer [@teward001 A little advice here. MyPaint has been missing from the Ubuntu Studio …], why was it removed? [13:12] the reason for removal is critical here [13:12] and sorry i'm not on telegram as much - WFH chaos [13:12] or do you mean dropped from the seeds? [13:13] because AFAICT there's a `mypaint` package in Focal (2.0.0-1) synced from Debian [13:15] I know that at the time the new libmypaint and mypaint2 was in experimental, and if it had been synced the current gimp at the time would ftbfs [13:15] must have changed now [13:17] RikMills: so, libmypaint is a separate package now [13:17] but i'm not sure 100% what package we're actually referring to in the source package level [13:18] `libmypaint` and `mypaint` are separate packages at the source level so clarification on *which* source package we're looking at would be useful [13:18] BUT [13:18] we're also in Final Beta Freeze, and no new seed changes are currently being accepted AIUI [13:18] soooooooooooo [13:18] gotta be careful here [13:19] libmypaint has been seperate since at least bionic [13:19] right [13:20] the `mypaint` source package has 2.0.0-1 which was synced from Debian [13:20] if mypaint was dropped for a good reason in focal, but can now come back. I don't think that will be argued with [13:20] but i didn't check deps, etc. i don't think libmypaint has been updated to any higher though [13:20] right but i need more details because theoretically it was never dropped from Ubuntu [13:20] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mypaint [13:21] it was just stuck at 1.2.0 forever until Focal [13:21] libmypaint is now 1.5 [13:21] has to be, otherwise mypaint 2 would not have built [13:21] s/has/had [13:22] yep 1.5.1 [13:22] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmypaint [13:22] and I meant dropped from the seed. assuming that is what you also meant [13:23] well 'dropped' means three things to me as a coredev [13:23] (1) Dropped from Main to Universe [13:23] (2) Dropped from Seed [13:23] (3) Dropped from ubuntu repos [13:23] so the clarification there was needed [13:24] in this case, dropped from seed is what it matches [13:24] so it'd need added back into the seed [13:24] that would require i think release team coordination because of the state we're in that they're already spinning RC ISOs [13:24] ooh. jbicha synced these during FeatureFreeze [13:24] tutut [13:24] to be fair I've synced a few packages during FF too :P [13:24] libmypain i being used both by gimp and mypaint. mypaint uses different version which caused conflict team decided gimp being present was higher priority but getting it back was something that was important to us since the drop [13:25] @azbulutlu then I task you to confirm that `mypaint` works as currently is [13:25] with the higher libs, etc. [13:25] and verify GIMP works too [13:25] libmypaint. I think erich is taking a day off so might be slow in answering so wanted to pop-in with the context [13:25] if it does, then you should be easy to get testing done without the Seeding [13:25] ... where the heckle is my coffee... [13:26] right. signing out of the discussion. I only commented as I was asked about syncing the new libmypaint/mypaint back when it would have broken things [13:28] cool [13:31] tagging eickmeyer for.when he gets back [13:34] @teward001 I'll get to it tomorrow latest if someone else doesn't beat me to it [13:36] cool [13:36] *goes to do his regular work duties* [14:40] @teward001 The clarification: it was removed from the seed. I added it again before feature freeze with bug 1803924 being fixed as the reason it was removed/re-added. Mypaint and Gimp being on the seed simultaneously was giving FTB for the ISO. [14:40] bug 1803924 in MyPaint "Gimp conflict with MyPaint" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803924 [14:41] However, that issue no longer exists. I added it back to the ISO without a FFe because nobody was answering me. It worked, no issues. [14:41] \o/ [14:41] Nobody got angry either. [14:41] @Eickmeyer oh btw I am alive [14:42] Nice to see you, @tsimonq2 [14:42] Heya [14:42] * tsimonq2 finds @teward001 and shoots him with a billion arrows at once [14:43] * Eickmeyer gets coffee [14:59] @Eickmeyer [However, that issue no longer exists. I added it back to the ISO without a FFe b …], cool [14:59] @Eickmeyer [Nice to see you, @tsimonq2], well that's probably because you're stuck at home lol [15:00] @tsimonq2 [@Eickmeyer oh btw I am alive], that's ONLY because you're stuck at home lol [15:00] @teward001 [that's ONLY because you're stuck at home lol], No you [15:00] But yeah, I bypassed the FFe process when adding MyPaint back. Inother words, I JFDI. [15:00] @tsimonq2 [No you], i've been stuck at home since mid March the heck have you been doing :P [15:01] I've been stuck at home since mid March too. [15:14] at least i can have my required coffee supplies shipped to me in bulk heh [15:14] *has a bulk order of 60 brewer pods for his Keurig of a specific type of coffee arriving later today* [15:15] Nice.