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| TechPup | hello | 13:58 |
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| TechPup | i have a question | 13:58 |
| TechPup | can my PC run lubuntu | 13:59 |
| TechPup | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Unknown Distro • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz (1.87GHz) • Memory: 968.8 MiB Total (887.1 MiB Free) • Storage: 6.4 GB / 13.1 GB (6.7 GB Free) • VGA: 8086:2592 @ 8086:2590 • Uptime: 56m 56s | 13:59 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Yup, it can | 14:01 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Although it might be unusable | 14:01 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Try Puppy Linux | 14:01 |
| TechPup | i already have | 14:01 |
| TechPup | but i want a version of ubuntu | 14:02 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Ah, you can try Lubuntu then | 14:02 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Linux Lite | 14:02 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Lubuntu's better | 14:02 |
| TechPup | linux lite? | 14:02 |
| lubot | <teward001> ignore that. Lubuntu should be tested on your environment :P | 14:02 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Yeah | 14:02 |
| TechPup | ok | 14:02 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Shouldn't have mentioned it | 14:02 |
| TechPup | thx for your help | 14:02 |
| lubot | <teward001> That said, with only 13.1GB of disk space available on your system, you're going to have long term storage problems | 14:03 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Yup | 14:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> and with < 1GB RAM you may run into issues in the long term with upgrades and newer functionality | 14:03 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> and don't try running Chrome | 14:03 |
| TechPup | fuck chrome | 14:03 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> It takes 4GB of ram on my system | 14:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> please watch your language here TechPup | 14:03 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Horrible! | 14:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> !language | 14:03 |
| TechPup | sorry | 14:03 |
| diogenes_ | with that RAM don't use firefox but palemoon. | 14:03 |
| teward | !language | 14:03 |
| ubottu | Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 14:03 |
| teward | stupid bot | 14:03 |
| TechPup | ok | 14:04 |
| TechPup | errr guys | 14:04 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @ubottu [<ubottu> Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including a …], What to do about this! | 14:04 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @TechPup [<TechPup> errr guys], Yeah? | 14:04 |
| TechPup | i want to run minecraft | 14:04 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Isn't RAM there to be used? And if there is a lot of RAM, why should Firefox or Chrome not use it? | 14:04 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @TechPup [<TechPup> i want to run minecraft], Don't try it! | 14:05 |
| TechPup | ok | 14:05 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @aptghetto [Isn't RAM there to be used? And if there is a lot of RAM, why should Firefox or …], Only 1GB | 14:05 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> And 14GB Storage | 14:05 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> And? 1 GB is enough | 14:05 |
| TechPup | ok | 14:05 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> It's too less | 14:05 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Expect slowdowns | 14:05 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> You should not open dozens of tabs | 14:06 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> I keep about 36 totally | 14:06 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> :) | 14:06 |
| TechPup | i only need 4 or 2 | 14:06 |
| lubot | <tbs61> cant he use flash disk for help ram? at least while playing miecraft? | 14:06 |
| Metamorphosis | He already has puppy but can't install certain software like Flatpack, snap and appimage | 14:07 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> I know, but even 2 take 500MB out of 16 Gigs | 14:07 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @Metamorphosis [<Metamorphosis> He already has puppy but can't install certain software like Fla …], I know | 14:07 |
| TechPup | i will send you what i want | 14:07 |
| lubot | <teward001> @tbs61 [cant he use flash disk for help ram? at least while playing miecraft?], that won't guarantee any improvement - using a flash disk to help RAM is basically saying "Use Swap" | 14:07 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Yup | 14:08 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> And even slower! | 14:08 |
| lubot | <teward001> yep | 14:08 |
| Metamorphosis | for example he wants to install https://www.openra.net/ on his Ubuntu based puppy. If you know a workaround help him | 14:08 |
| lubot | <teward001> even with SSDs holding Swap on it, it's still slower than the RAM speeds. | 14:08 |
| lubot | <tbs61> slover but edible | 14:08 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Gonna be too slow | 14:09 |
| TechPup | with 30 fps i am good | 14:09 |
| lubot | <tbs61> flash disk is much faster than hdd | 14:09 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Nah, it isn't | 14:09 |
| lubot | <tbs61> @@ | 14:09 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @TechPup [<TechPup> with 30 fps i am good], It's not gonna work | 14:10 |
| lubot | <teward001> @tbs61 [flash disk is much faster than hdd], RAM is faster than ${INSERT_ANY_DISK_MEDIUM_HERE} | 14:10 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Too less | 14:10 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @teward001 [RAM is faster than ${INSERT_ANY_DISK_MEDIUM_HERE}], Yup! | 14:10 |
| lubot | <teward001> SSD, Flash Disks, HDD, etc. | 14:10 |
| lubot | <teward001> all thsoe are slower than RAM | 14:10 |
| TechPup | brb | 14:10 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Ram's the best! | 14:10 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> I use only cpu registers | 14:10 |
| lubot | <tbs61> ofc ram s fastest, but we try to help ram here, even if it s slow for helping it we may choose that way | 14:11 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> If you have a lot of RAM, use ramdisks | 14:11 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Just an example of ram | 14:11 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> not applicable in this case, though | 14:11 |
| TechPup | sorry i was AFK | 14:12 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Don't try making a ramdisk of swap, though | 14:13 |
| TechPup | i was AFK | 14:13 |
| TechPup | i want hexchat, wireless interface for wifi, sound support or driver, | 14:14 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Don't try such apps like hexchat | 14:15 |
| TechPup | WHY | 14:15 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Too slow! | 14:15 |
| TechPup | i want to have contact with other users of puppy linux | 14:15 |
| lubot | <tbs61> i guess its been too long to remember for you guys how it feels to use old machine, even if it s slow being able to do something more feels so good, i had 1 gb ram and about 1-2 gb swap, thanks to swap i could play games, win7 already consumed most ram i had but with swap i could play games cuz system sent some datas that i dont use whi | 14:15 |
| lubot | le loading game datas which s newer for system, even thought going back to desktop was hard system was running, even thought it was slow i prefered that gladly | 14:15 |
| TechPup | i want to have contact with other users of puppy linux | 14:15 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Don't try it on a slow system | 14:17 |
| TechPup | ok | 14:17 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Or use command-line version | 14:17 |
| TechPup | send me the download link | 14:17 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html | 14:18 |
| TechPup | thx mate | 14:18 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> No worries :) | 14:18 |
| TechPup | where is lubuntu | 14:19 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> lubuntu.me | 14:19 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> not lubuntu.ne | 14:19 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> lubuntu.net | 14:20 |
| TechPup | btw guys if you see someone called techpupmobile is me | 14:20 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Ah, I'm on Telegram | 14:20 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> But will log into freenode | 14:20 |
| TechPup | OMG | 14:22 |
| TechPup | I MISS LUBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:22 |
| TechPup | MY FIRST FAMILY PC HAD THIS OS | 14:22 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> :) | 14:22 |
| TechPup | MY FIRST FAMILY PC HAD THIS OS | 14:22 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Great! | 14:22 |
| TechPup | GUYS I HAVE TO ABORT THE INSTALLATION | 14:23 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Issue? | 14:23 |
| banned | hey | 14:26 |
| banned | i outsmarted drone | 14:26 |
| banned | is me TechPup | 14:26 |
| banned | drone dont mess with me | 14:28 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> You name is appearing as banned | 14:28 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> *your | 14:28 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Is the bot recognizing you as banned, TechPup? | 14:29 |
| banned | no | 14:31 |
| banned | lol i outsmarted your bots | 14:32 |
| TechPup | guys | 14:32 |
| TechPup | yes i can still text | 14:32 |
| TechPup | banned off | 14:32 |
| genii | TechPup: The bot onl quieted you for 3 minutes | 14:32 |
| banned | as you wish | 14:32 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Uh oh | 14:33 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> He's back banned | 14:33 |
| TechPup | no banned was me | 14:33 |
| TechPup | i used banned to trick the system | 14:33 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Ah :) | 14:34 |
| TechPup | lol | 14:34 |
| TechPup | your bots didnt reconize me | 14:34 |
| TechPup | bots: who are you | 14:34 |
| TechPup | me: a friend | 14:34 |
| TechPup | bots: ok have fun | 14:35 |
| TechPup | me: TROLLOLOLOLOLOL | 14:35 |
| TechPup | *WANRNING: BOTS OUTSMARTED BY: TECHPUP!* | 14:40 |
| TechPup | Lol | 14:40 |
| TechPup | guys???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? | 14:40 |
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| TechPup | yes | 14:43 |
| TechPup | sorry i forgot | 14:43 |
| lubot | <TheLimeRunner> TechPup please stop spamming in this channel. If you have a legitimate support request please ask, otherwise move to the offtopic channel. | 14:47 |
| TechPup | ok | 14:48 |
| === TechPup is now known as TechP | ||
| === TechP is now known as TechPup | ||
| TechPup | guys | 14:55 |
| TechPup | do you want to join my channel | 14:56 |
| teward | advertising other channels is a no-no here | 14:58 |
| teward | cc: dax for reasons | 14:59 |
| TechPup | just asked | 14:59 |
| TechPup | why did you kicked me | 15:01 |
| TechPup | i know ways to get around the system | 15:01 |
| genii | TechPup: Because you're being a nuisance on many different channels, and were already told to stop spamming in this one. | 15:03 |
| genii | TechPup: If you persist, an actual ban will follow | 15:03 |
| TechPup | ok sorry..... | 15:03 |
| TechPup | but a little warning for you dont get me on aggresive mode again k? | 15:04 |
| genii | TechPup: Veiled threats are also not welcome. | 15:24 |
| mat_cz | hello all! | 15:42 |
| mat_cz | i have quick question; i just installed lubuntu 18.04 at asus c300 chromebook | 15:43 |
| mat_cz | but i dont have sound on it. i tried with pulseaudio, nothing happend, i tired with alsa but it was stubborn with setting HDMI as default device | 15:44 |
| mat_cz | i blacklisted at in modprobe.d/blacklist.conf the snd_hda_intel, and still nothing | 15:45 |
| mat_cz | can someone please tell me what else i can try? | 15:45 |
| akem | mat_cz, Try with alsamixer, see if you can swith to internal instead of HDMI. | 15:45 |
| akem | switch* | 15:45 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/d6rc2u/installed_lubuntu_onto_asus_c300m_chromebook_no/ | 15:46 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Exactly your issue about audio | 15:46 |
| mat_cz | now, after blacklisting snd_hda_intel i cannot run alsamixer (there is no such file or directory) | 15:46 |
| akem | You need to install it first: "apt install alsa-utils", but thet link Rudra Bali posted may have more infos. | 15:47 |
| mat_cz | there is no answer | 15:47 |
| mat_cz | just question | 15:47 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Ah I found that one | 15:48 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Thought it might be of use | 15:48 |
| mat_cz | akem: alsa-utils is already the newest version (1.1.3-1ubuntu1). | 15:48 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Open up a terminal window and type' sudo alsa force-unload' to kill the audio services … Replace the system’s sound config file with the downloaded version: … Type sudo cp ~/Downloads/asound.state /var/lib/alsa … Reboot your Chromebook | 15:48 |
| akem | mat_cz, Hm, it should be there, try: locate alsamixer | grep bin | 15:50 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> https://gist.github.com/jeremy-breidenbach/92fc648ed2590ff9cd3a0ae57ed98e4a | 15:51 |
| mat_cz | akem: /usr/bin/alsamixer | 15:52 |
| mat_cz | maybe because i blacklisted main card? | 15:52 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> ?? | 15:52 |
| akem | mat_cz, Nop, type: "/usr/bin/alsamixer"; but there is something wrong with your path maybe, just typing "alsamixer" should work. | 15:53 |
| mat_cz | Rudra Bali: give me few minutes and ill try | 15:53 |
| mat_cz | /usr/bin/alsamixer | 15:54 |
| mat_cz | nie udało się otworzyć miksera: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu | 15:54 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> ?? | 15:55 |
| mat_cz | couldnt open alsamixer: there is no such file or cataloug | 15:55 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Couldn't understand a word of it | 15:55 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Type the following: | 15:55 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> sudo apt purge alsa-utils | 15:55 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> sudo apt install alsa-utils | 15:56 |
| mat_cz | ok, i reboot | 15:56 |
| mat_cz | wait please | 15:56 |
| mat_cz | ok, im back | 16:03 |
| mat_cz | https://pastebin.pl/view/421a95cd just before changinf asound.state | 16:04 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Worked? | 16:04 |
| mat_cz | alsamixergui; alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory | 16:05 |
| mat_cz | Rudra Bali: nope, still no sound | 16:05 |
| akem | You need to reload the alsa drivers before running alsamixer. | 16:05 |
| mat_cz | at this github is information about linux 4.4 and then it worked | 16:05 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/alsamixer-function-snd_ctl_open-failed-for-default-no-such-file-or-directory-157454/ | 16:06 |
| akem | You should ve tried alsamixer first. | 16:06 |
| mat_cz | akem: still the same, no such file or directory | 16:06 |
| akem | mat_cz, Ok, weird. | 16:06 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @Rudra Bali [https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/alsamixer-function-snd_c …], Have you checked this one? | 16:07 |
| mat_cz | akem: https://pastebin.pl/view/3d30912b | 16:10 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Ah, I can't understand | 16:11 |
| mat_cz | Rudra Bali: still the same, /usr/bin/alsamixer not such file or direcotry | 16:12 |
| lubot | JoaoGri was added by: JoaoGri | 16:12 |
| akem | Try: 'export LANG="en_US.UTF-8"'; cause we don't understand .pl or whatever the language. | 16:13 |
| mat_cz | ive deleted blackilisting of snd_hda_... and i ll check now | 16:13 |
| akem | mat_cz, Try the full path /usr/bin/alsamixer. | 16:14 |
| akem | Looks like there's something wrong with your path too. | 16:14 |
| akem | "file /usr/bin/alsamixer" | 16:14 |
| mat_cz | akem: /usr/bin/alsamixer: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/l, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=4465385f9bfa7e743f9859e728081fb199aa6e72, stripped | 16:16 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Download ALSA from here https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Download | 16:16 |
| akem | mat_cz, Try as root: "/usr/bin/alsamixer" and try to play some audio as root too, just to see if it's not permissions issue. Like audio group etc. | 16:17 |
| mat_cz | when i loaded snd_hda_intel alsamixer works without full path | 16:17 |
| akem | With VLC for example. | 16:17 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> @mat_cz [<mat_cz> when i loaded snd_hda_intel alsamixer works without full path], Great! | 16:17 |
| mat_cz | Rudra Bali: but stil hdmi is default output | 16:18 |
| akem | Check F6 | 16:18 |
| mat_cz | akem: i chosen Card: chtmax98090 | 16:22 |
| mat_cz | but still no sound | 16:22 |
| akem | Tried as root? can you adjust the volume too? | 16:23 |
| mat_cz | i added user to audio group but still no sound | 16:25 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> but did it work as root? | 16:25 |
| mat_cz | akem: i muted headphones, and set full voulem for speakers and still nothing | 16:26 |
| mat_cz | okey, can someont tell mi why if i blackilst hdmi modul alsamixer wont work? even if i have speakers | 16:31 |
| akem | Don't mute anything, set the volume up, and try to play sound with VLC and also youtube in the browser for ex. | 16:31 |
| akem | I would also try to plug the HDMI just to see if it works via HDMI. | 16:32 |
| mat_cz | unfortunetly i dont have hdmi with me now | 16:32 |
| mat_cz | ;/ | 16:32 |
| akem | Ha ok. | 16:32 |
| mat_cz | okey, i need to go | 16:32 |
| mat_cz | ill be here tomorrow to play a little bit more with it | 16:32 |
| mat_cz | have a nice day/evening | 16:33 |
| akem | Take care, bye. | 16:33 |
| === theMetamorphosis is now known as Metamorphosis | ||
| mat_cz | see you all, and thank you for help and time :) I appreciate | 16:33 |
| mat_cz | bye | 16:33 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Bye :) | 16:34 |
| lubot | <Rudra Bali> Take care | 16:34 |
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| Bunkerganoosh | am I allowed to speak here? | 20:18 |
| Bunkerganoosh | I guess so......please disregard..... | 20:19 |
| diogenes_ | Bunkerganoosh, ok | 20:19 |
| Metamorphosis | Hello, would you guys please unban TechPup? He is a fellow user in #puppylinux and he spammed a bit here, but he is only 11 yo and he says he is sorry for doing so. | 20:22 |
| wxl | Metamorphosis: he spammed *terribly* so and made threats to boot | 20:23 |
| Metamorphosis | wxi Considering his little age and the fact that he regrets doing so, I think he can be pardoned as the admins at #puppylinux did so too. | 20:24 |
| wxl | Metamorphosis: his age does not excuse him from consequences. he needs to take responsibility and not have others come in to do his work for him. he can email a formal request to lubuntu-council@lists.ubuntu.com | 20:25 |
| Metamorphosis | Thank you. | 20:26 |
| akem | 11 yo on Freenode? | 20:26 |
| wxl | it's not unheard of | 20:26 |
| wxl | this is why (among other reasons) we try to keep the language polite, although this particular individual violated that very early in his appearance in this channel | 20:27 |
| akem | Hm, maybe but it must be rare. | 20:27 |
| akem | Not much kids on Freenode usually. | 20:27 |
| wxl | i would say that there are an ever increasing number of them | 20:27 |
| wxl | (juvenilles at least) | 20:27 |
| Metamorphosis | Yeah, with Coronavirus around, I see too many bored adolescents joining IRC. | 20:28 |
| wxl | i was speaking outside of that context, from observations over the past few years | 20:28 |
| Bunkerganoosh | What about all that fancy "social media" the kids are into these days? | 20:29 |
| Bunkerganoosh | They're doing the twitter, the face-book, and that new tick-tock. | 20:30 |
| wxl | it's not just the kids. you can pretty much age a person based on their social media usage | 20:30 |
| dax | what age am i if i don't have any social media usage | 20:30 |
| wxl | dax: geriatric. | 20:30 |
| Bunkerganoosh | you have one foot in the grave, dax | 20:30 |
| wxl | ^ | 20:31 |
| dax | i think your heuristic's missing the paranoid millenial demographic | 20:31 |
| wxl | they still probably use some combination of signal, whatsapp, wickr, telegram, or the like | 20:31 |
| wxl | although there's that little tiny flip phone contingent, but they're likely to get pushed back to smartphones given the rise of 5g and the fall of 3g | 20:32 |
| Bunkerganoosh | yeah, really.....i had to get a new phone when 2G went away | 20:33 |
| Metamorphosis | Most of the juvenile population are into social media services like Facebook, instagram and Snapchat. I like it when I see a 11 YO tries to install Linux and learn commands. | 20:34 |
| wxl | dax: actually i think the key in figuring you out is knowing whether or not you have used a rotary and/or pulse phone more than once and/or whether or not you've used dialup | 20:34 |
| dax | i've used all of those things and im a millenial :s | 20:34 |
| wxl | Metamorphosis: i don't disagree with you. as long as they play nice with everyone else. i mean, i like it when an 11 year old goes to the library and tries to read books but if they run down the ailes screaming, naw. | 20:35 |
| wxl | dax: in that case, you're just weird | 20:35 |
| dax | my generation's age 24 to 39 now, it's not *that* young | 20:35 |
| wxl | i guess if you're on the tail end there, perhaps it makes sense | 20:35 |
| Bunkerganoosh | i used to browse the library at that age | 20:36 |
| wxl | Metamorphosis: mind a pm? | 20:41 |
| Metamorphosis | Sure. | 20:43 |
| theMetamorphosis | wxl sorry I was disconnected. Sure | 20:47 |
| === theMetamorphosis is now known as Metamorphosis | ||
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> dax: in that case, you're just weird], outlier | 20:55 |
| === dz is now known as Guest83818 | ||
| === nicolas is now known as PooPidoo | ||
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