[13:58] <TechPup> hello
[13:58] <TechPup> i have a question
[13:59] <TechPup> can my PC run lubuntu
[13:59] <TechPup> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Unknown Distro • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz (1.87GHz) • Memory: 968.8 MiB Total (887.1 MiB Free) • Storage: 6.4 GB / 13.1 GB (6.7 GB Free) • VGA: 8086:2592 @ 8086:2590 • Uptime: 56m 56s
[14:01] <TechPup> i already have
[14:02] <TechPup> but i want a version of ubuntu
[14:02] <TechPup> linux lite?
 ignore that.  Lubuntu should be tested on your environment :P
[14:02] <TechPup> ok
[14:02] <TechPup> thx for your help
 That said, with only 13.1GB of disk space available on your system, you're going to have long term storage problems
 and with < 1GB RAM you may run into issues in the long term with upgrades and newer functionality
[14:03] <TechPup> fuck chrome
 please watch your language here TechPup
 !language
[14:03] <TechPup> sorry
[14:03] <diogenes_> with that RAM don't use firefox but palemoon.
[14:03] <teward> !language
[14:03] <teward> stupid bot
[14:04] <TechPup> ok
[14:04] <TechPup> errr guys
[14:04] <TechPup> i want to run minecraft
 Isn't RAM there to be used? And if there is a lot of RAM, why should Firefox or Chrome not use it?
[14:05] <TechPup> ok
 And? 1 GB is enough
[14:05] <TechPup> ok
 You should not open dozens of tabs
[14:06] <TechPup> i only need 4 or 2
 cant he use flash disk for help ram? at least while playing miecraft?
[14:07] <Metamorphosis> He already has puppy but can't install certain software like Flatpack, snap and appimage
[14:07] <TechPup> i will send you what i want
 @tbs61 [cant he use flash disk for help ram? at least while playing miecraft?], that won't guarantee any improvement - using a flash disk to help RAM is basically saying "Use Swap"
 yep
[14:08] <Metamorphosis> for example he wants to install https://www.openra.net/ on his Ubuntu based puppy. If you know a workaround help him
 even with SSDs holding Swap on it, it's still slower than the RAM speeds.
 slover but edible
[14:09] <TechPup> with 30 fps i am good
 flash disk is much faster than hdd
 @@
 @tbs61 [flash disk is much faster than hdd], RAM is faster than ${INSERT_ANY_DISK_MEDIUM_HERE}
 SSD, Flash Disks, HDD, etc.
 all thsoe are slower than RAM
[14:10] <TechPup> brb
 I use only cpu registers
 ofc ram s fastest, but we try to help ram here, even if it s slow for helping it we may choose that way
[14:12] <TechPup> sorry i was AFK
[14:13] <TechPup>  i was AFK
[14:14] <TechPup> i want hexchat, wireless interface for wifi, sound support or driver,
[14:15] <TechPup> WHY
[14:15] <TechPup> i want to have contact with other users of puppy linux
 i guess its been too long to remember for you guys how it feels to use old machine, even if it s slow being able to do something more feels so good, i had 1 gb ram and about 1-2 gb swap, thanks to swap i could play games, win7 already consumed most ram i had but with swap i could play games cuz system sent some datas that i dont use whi
[14:15] <TechPup> i want to have contact with other users of puppy linux
[14:17] <TechPup> ok
[14:17] <TechPup> send me the download link
[14:18] <TechPup> thx mate
[14:19] <TechPup> where is lubuntu
[14:20] <TechPup> btw guys if you see someone called techpupmobile is me
[14:22] <TechPup> OMG
[14:22] <TechPup> I MISS LUBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:22] <TechPup> MY FIRST FAMILY PC HAD THIS OS
[14:22] <TechPup> MY FIRST FAMILY PC HAD THIS OS
[14:23] <TechPup> GUYS I HAVE TO ABORT THE INSTALLATION
[14:26] <banned> hey
[14:26] <banned> i outsmarted drone
[14:26] <banned> is me TechPup
[14:28] <banned> drone dont mess with me
[14:31] <banned> no
[14:32] <banned> lol i outsmarted your bots
[14:32] <TechPup> guys
[14:32] <TechPup> yes i can still text
[14:32] <TechPup> banned off
[14:32] <genii> TechPup: The bot onl quieted you for 3 minutes
[14:32] <banned> as you wish
[14:33] <TechPup> no banned was me
[14:33] <TechPup> i used banned to trick the system
[14:34] <TechPup> lol
[14:34] <TechPup> your bots didnt reconize me
[14:34] <TechPup> bots: who are you
[14:34] <TechPup> me: a friend
[14:35] <TechPup> bots: ok have fun
[14:35] <TechPup> me: TROLLOLOLOLOLOL
[14:40] <TechPup> *WANRNING: BOTS OUTSMARTED BY: TECHPUP!*
[14:40] <TechPup> Lol
[14:40] <TechPup> guys????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[14:40] <TechPup>  
[14:40] <TechPup>  
[14:40] <TechPup>  
[14:40] <TechPup>  
[14:40] <TechPup>  
[14:40] <TechPup>  
[14:43] <TechPup> yes
[14:43] <TechPup> sorry i forgot
 TechPup please stop spamming in this channel. If you have a legitimate support request please ask, otherwise move to the offtopic channel.
[14:48] <TechPup> ok
[14:55] <TechPup> guys
[14:56] <TechPup> do you want to join my channel
[14:58] <teward> advertising other channels is a no-no here
[14:59] <teward> cc: dax for reasons
[14:59] <TechPup> just asked
[15:01] <TechPup> why did you kicked me
[15:01] <TechPup> i know ways to get around the system
[15:03] <genii> TechPup: Because you're being a nuisance on many different channels, and were already told to stop spamming in this one.
[15:03] <genii> TechPup: If you persist, an actual ban will follow
[15:03] <TechPup> ok sorry.....
[15:04] <TechPup> but a little warning for you dont get me on aggresive mode again k?
[15:24] <genii> TechPup: Veiled threats are also not welcome.
[15:42] <mat_cz> hello all!
[15:43] <mat_cz> i have quick question; i just installed lubuntu 18.04 at asus c300 chromebook
[15:44] <mat_cz> but i dont have sound on it. i tried with pulseaudio, nothing happend, i tired with alsa but it was stubborn with setting HDMI as default device
[15:45] <mat_cz> i blacklisted at in modprobe.d/blacklist.conf the snd_hda_intel, and still nothing
[15:45] <mat_cz> can someone please tell me what else i can try?
[15:45] <akem> mat_cz, Try with alsamixer, see if you can swith to internal instead of HDMI.
[15:45] <akem> switch*
[15:46] <mat_cz> now, after blacklisting snd_hda_intel i cannot run alsamixer (there is no such file or directory)
[15:47] <akem> You need to install it first: "apt install alsa-utils", but thet link Rudra Bali posted may have more infos.
[15:47] <mat_cz> there is no answer
[15:47] <mat_cz> just question
[15:48] <mat_cz> akem: alsa-utils is already the newest version (1.1.3-1ubuntu1).
[15:50] <akem> mat_cz, Hm, it should be there, try: locate alsamixer | grep bin
[15:52] <mat_cz> akem: /usr/bin/alsamixer
[15:52] <mat_cz> maybe because i blacklisted main card?
[15:53] <akem> mat_cz, Nop, type: "/usr/bin/alsamixer"; but there is something wrong with your path maybe, just typing "alsamixer" should work.
[15:53] <mat_cz> Rudra Bali: give me few minutes and ill try
[15:54] <mat_cz> /usr/bin/alsamixer
[15:54] <mat_cz> nie udało się otworzyć miksera: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
[15:55] <mat_cz> couldnt open alsamixer: there is no such file or cataloug
[15:56] <mat_cz> ok, i reboot
[15:56] <mat_cz> wait please
[16:03] <mat_cz> ok, im back
[16:04] <mat_cz> https://pastebin.pl/view/421a95cd just before changinf asound.state
[16:05] <mat_cz> alsamixergui; alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[16:05] <mat_cz> Rudra Bali: nope, still no sound
[16:05] <akem> You need to reload the alsa drivers before running alsamixer.
[16:05] <mat_cz> at this github is information about linux 4.4 and then it worked
[16:06] <akem> You should ve tried alsamixer first.
[16:06] <mat_cz> akem: still the same, no such file or directory
[16:06] <akem> mat_cz, Ok, weird.
[16:10] <mat_cz> akem: https://pastebin.pl/view/3d30912b
[16:12] <mat_cz> Rudra Bali: still the same, /usr/bin/alsamixer not such file or direcotry
[16:13] <akem> Try: 'export LANG="en_US.UTF-8"'; cause we don't understand .pl or whatever the language.
[16:13] <mat_cz> ive deleted blackilisting of snd_hda_... and i ll check now
[16:14] <akem> mat_cz, Try the full path /usr/bin/alsamixer.
[16:14] <akem> Looks like there's something wrong with your path too.
[16:14] <akem> "file /usr/bin/alsamixer"
[16:16] <mat_cz> akem: /usr/bin/alsamixer: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/l, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=4465385f9bfa7e743f9859e728081fb199aa6e72, stripped
[16:17] <akem> mat_cz, Try as root: "/usr/bin/alsamixer" and try to play some audio as root too, just to see if it's not permissions issue. Like audio group etc.
[16:17] <mat_cz> when i loaded snd_hda_intel alsamixer works without full path
[16:17] <akem> With VLC for example.
[16:18] <mat_cz> Rudra Bali: but stil hdmi is default output
[16:18] <akem> Check F6
[16:22] <mat_cz> akem: i chosen Card: chtmax98090
[16:22] <mat_cz> but still no sound
[16:23] <akem> Tried as root? can you adjust the volume too?
[16:25] <mat_cz> i added user to audio group but still no sound
[16:26] <mat_cz> akem: i muted headphones, and set full voulem for speakers and still nothing
[16:31] <mat_cz> okey, can someont tell mi why if i blackilst hdmi modul alsamixer wont work? even if i have speakers
[16:31] <akem> Don't mute anything, set the volume up, and try to play sound with VLC and also youtube in the browser for ex.
[16:32] <akem> I would also try to plug the HDMI just to see if it works via HDMI.
[16:32] <mat_cz> unfortunetly i dont have hdmi with me now
[16:32] <mat_cz> ;/
[16:32] <akem> Ha ok.
[16:32] <mat_cz> okey, i need to go
[16:32] <mat_cz> ill be here tomorrow to play a little bit more with it
[16:33] <mat_cz> have a nice day/evening
[16:33] <akem> Take care, bye.
[16:33] <mat_cz> see you all, and thank you for help and time :) I appreciate
[16:33] <mat_cz> bye
[20:18] <Bunkerganoosh> am I allowed to speak here?
[20:19] <Bunkerganoosh> I guess so......please disregard.....
[20:19] <diogenes_> Bunkerganoosh, ok
[20:22] <Metamorphosis> Hello, would you guys please unban TechPup? He is a fellow user in #puppylinux and he spammed a bit here, but he is only 11 yo and he says he is sorry for doing so.
[20:23] <wxl> Metamorphosis: he spammed *terribly* so and made threats to boot
[20:24] <Metamorphosis> wxi Considering his little age and the fact that he regrets doing so, I think he can be pardoned as the admins at #puppylinux did so too.
[20:25] <wxl> Metamorphosis: his age does not excuse him from consequences. he needs to take responsibility and not have others come in to do his work for him. he can email a formal request to lubuntu-council@lists.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <Metamorphosis> Thank you.
[20:26] <akem> 11 yo on Freenode?
[20:26] <wxl> it's not unheard of
[20:27] <wxl> this is why (among other reasons) we try to keep the language polite, although this particular individual violated that very early in his appearance in this channel
[20:27] <akem> Hm, maybe but it must be rare.
[20:27] <akem> Not much kids on Freenode usually.
[20:27] <wxl> i would say that there are an ever increasing number of them
[20:27] <wxl> (juvenilles at least)
[20:28] <Metamorphosis> Yeah, with Coronavirus around, I see too many bored adolescents joining IRC.
[20:28] <wxl> i was speaking outside of that context, from observations over the past few years
[20:29] <Bunkerganoosh> What about all that fancy "social media" the kids are into these days?
[20:30] <Bunkerganoosh> They're doing the twitter, the face-book, and that new tick-tock.
[20:30] <wxl> it's not just the kids. you can pretty much age a person based on their social media usage
[20:30] <dax> what age am i if i don't have any social media usage
[20:30] <wxl> dax: geriatric.
[20:30] <Bunkerganoosh> you have one foot in the grave, dax
[20:31] <wxl> ^
[20:31] <dax> i think your heuristic's missing the paranoid millenial demographic
[20:31] <wxl> they still probably use some combination of signal, whatsapp, wickr, telegram, or the like
[20:32] <wxl> although there's that little tiny flip phone contingent, but they're likely to get pushed back to smartphones given the rise of 5g and the fall of 3g
[20:33] <Bunkerganoosh> yeah, really.....i had to get a new phone when 2G went away
[20:34] <Metamorphosis> Most of the juvenile population are into social media services like Facebook, instagram and Snapchat. I like it when I see a 11 YO tries to install Linux and learn commands.
[20:34] <wxl> dax: actually i think the key in figuring you out is knowing whether or not you have used a rotary and/or pulse phone more than once and/or whether or not you've used dialup
[20:34] <dax> i've used all of those things and im a millenial :s
[20:35] <wxl> Metamorphosis: i don't disagree with you. as long as they play nice with everyone else. i mean, i like it when an 11 year old goes to the library and tries to read books but if they run down the ailes screaming, naw.
[20:35] <wxl> dax: in that case, you're just weird
[20:35] <dax> my generation's age 24 to 39 now, it's not *that* young
[20:35] <wxl> i guess if you're on the tail end there, perhaps it makes sense
[20:36] <Bunkerganoosh> i used to browse the library at that age
[20:41] <wxl> Metamorphosis: mind a pm?
[20:43] <Metamorphosis> Sure.
[20:47] <theMetamorphosis> wxl sorry I was disconnected. Sure
 @wxl [<wxl> dax: in that case, you're just weird], outlier