=== lubuntu is now known as Guest31939 === TheRedQueen is now known as Drone [13:58] hello [13:58] i have a question [13:59] can my PC run lubuntu [13:59] Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Unknown Distro • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz (1.87GHz) • Memory: 968.8 MiB Total (887.1 MiB Free) • Storage: 6.4 GB / 13.1 GB (6.7 GB Free) • VGA: 8086:2592 @ 8086:2590 • Uptime: 56m 56s [14:01] Yup, it can [14:01] Although it might be unusable [14:01] Try Puppy Linux [14:01] i already have [14:02] but i want a version of ubuntu [14:02] Ah, you can try Lubuntu then [14:02] Linux Lite [14:02] Lubuntu's better [14:02] linux lite? [14:02] ignore that. Lubuntu should be tested on your environment :P [14:02] Yeah [14:02] ok [14:02] Shouldn't have mentioned it [14:02] thx for your help [14:03] That said, with only 13.1GB of disk space available on your system, you're going to have long term storage problems [14:03] Yup [14:03] and with < 1GB RAM you may run into issues in the long term with upgrades and newer functionality [14:03] and don't try running Chrome [14:03] fuck chrome [14:03] It takes 4GB of ram on my system [14:03] please watch your language here TechPup [14:03] Horrible! [14:03] !language [14:03] sorry [14:03] with that RAM don't use firefox but palemoon. [14:03] !language [14:03] Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [14:03] stupid bot [14:04] ok [14:04] errr guys [14:04] @ubottu [ Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including a …], What to do about this! [14:04] @TechPup [ errr guys], Yeah? [14:04] i want to run minecraft [14:04] Isn't RAM there to be used? And if there is a lot of RAM, why should Firefox or Chrome not use it? [14:05] @TechPup [ i want to run minecraft], Don't try it! [14:05] ok [14:05] @aptghetto [Isn't RAM there to be used? And if there is a lot of RAM, why should Firefox or …], Only 1GB [14:05] And 14GB Storage [14:05] And? 1 GB is enough [14:05] ok [14:05] It's too less [14:05] Expect slowdowns [14:06] You should not open dozens of tabs [14:06] I keep about 36 totally [14:06] :) [14:06] i only need 4 or 2 [14:06] cant he use flash disk for help ram? at least while playing miecraft? [14:07] He already has puppy but can't install certain software like Flatpack, snap and appimage [14:07] I know, but even 2 take 500MB out of 16 Gigs [14:07] @Metamorphosis [ He already has puppy but can't install certain software like Fla …], I know [14:07] i will send you what i want [14:07] @tbs61 [cant he use flash disk for help ram? at least while playing miecraft?], that won't guarantee any improvement - using a flash disk to help RAM is basically saying "Use Swap" [14:08] Yup [14:08] And even slower! [14:08] yep [14:08] for example he wants to install https://www.openra.net/ on his Ubuntu based puppy. If you know a workaround help him [14:08] even with SSDs holding Swap on it, it's still slower than the RAM speeds. [14:08] slover but edible [14:09] Gonna be too slow [14:09] with 30 fps i am good [14:09] flash disk is much faster than hdd [14:09] Nah, it isn't [14:09] @@ [14:10] @TechPup [ with 30 fps i am good], It's not gonna work [14:10] @tbs61 [flash disk is much faster than hdd], RAM is faster than ${INSERT_ANY_DISK_MEDIUM_HERE} [14:10] Too less [14:10] @teward001 [RAM is faster than ${INSERT_ANY_DISK_MEDIUM_HERE}], Yup! [14:10] SSD, Flash Disks, HDD, etc. [14:10] all thsoe are slower than RAM [14:10] brb [14:10] Ram's the best! [14:10] I use only cpu registers [14:11] ofc ram s fastest, but we try to help ram here, even if it s slow for helping it we may choose that way [14:11] If you have a lot of RAM, use ramdisks [14:11] Just an example of ram [14:11] not applicable in this case, though [14:12] sorry i was AFK [14:13] Don't try making a ramdisk of swap, though [14:13] i was AFK [14:14] i want hexchat, wireless interface for wifi, sound support or driver, [14:15] Don't try such apps like hexchat [14:15] WHY [14:15] Too slow! [14:15] i want to have contact with other users of puppy linux [14:15] i guess its been too long to remember for you guys how it feels to use old machine, even if it s slow being able to do something more feels so good, i had 1 gb ram and about 1-2 gb swap, thanks to swap i could play games, win7 already consumed most ram i had but with swap i could play games cuz system sent some datas that i dont use whi [14:15] le loading game datas which s newer for system, even thought going back to desktop was hard system was running, even thought it was slow i prefered that gladly [14:15] i want to have contact with other users of puppy linux [14:17] Don't try it on a slow system [14:17] ok [14:17] Or use command-line version [14:17] send me the download link [14:18] https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html [14:18] thx mate [14:18] No worries :) [14:19] where is lubuntu [14:19] lubuntu.me [14:19] not lubuntu.ne [14:20] lubuntu.net [14:20] btw guys if you see someone called techpupmobile is me [14:20] Ah, I'm on Telegram [14:20] But will log into freenode [14:22] OMG [14:22] I MISS LUBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [14:22] MY FIRST FAMILY PC HAD THIS OS [14:22] :) [14:22] MY FIRST FAMILY PC HAD THIS OS [14:22] Great! [14:23] GUYS I HAVE TO ABORT THE INSTALLATION [14:23] Issue? [14:26] hey [14:26] i outsmarted drone [14:26] is me TechPup [14:28] drone dont mess with me [14:28] You name is appearing as banned [14:28] *your [14:29] Is the bot recognizing you as banned, TechPup? [14:31] no [14:32] lol i outsmarted your bots [14:32] guys [14:32] yes i can still text [14:32] banned off [14:32] TechPup: The bot onl quieted you for 3 minutes [14:32] as you wish [14:33] Uh oh [14:33] He's back banned [14:33] no banned was me [14:33] i used banned to trick the system [14:34] Ah :) [14:34] lol [14:34] your bots didnt reconize me [14:34] bots: who are you [14:34] me: a friend [14:35] bots: ok have fun [14:35] me: TROLLOLOLOLOLOL [14:40] *WANRNING: BOTS OUTSMARTED BY: TECHPUP!* [14:40] Lol [14:40] guys???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [14:40] [14:40] [14:40] [14:40] [14:40] [14:40] [14:43] yes [14:43] sorry i forgot [14:47] TechPup please stop spamming in this channel. If you have a legitimate support request please ask, otherwise move to the offtopic channel. [14:48] ok === TechPup is now known as TechP === TechP is now known as TechPup [14:55] guys [14:56] do you want to join my channel [14:58] advertising other channels is a no-no here [14:59] cc: dax for reasons [14:59] just asked [15:01] why did you kicked me [15:01] i know ways to get around the system [15:03] TechPup: Because you're being a nuisance on many different channels, and were already told to stop spamming in this one. [15:03] TechPup: If you persist, an actual ban will follow [15:03] ok sorry..... [15:04] but a little warning for you dont get me on aggresive mode again k? [15:24] TechPup: Veiled threats are also not welcome. [15:42] hello all! [15:43] i have quick question; i just installed lubuntu 18.04 at asus c300 chromebook [15:44] but i dont have sound on it. i tried with pulseaudio, nothing happend, i tired with alsa but it was stubborn with setting HDMI as default device [15:45] i blacklisted at in modprobe.d/blacklist.conf the snd_hda_intel, and still nothing [15:45] can someone please tell me what else i can try? [15:45] mat_cz, Try with alsamixer, see if you can swith to internal instead of HDMI. [15:45] switch* [15:46] https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/d6rc2u/installed_lubuntu_onto_asus_c300m_chromebook_no/ [15:46] Exactly your issue about audio [15:46] now, after blacklisting snd_hda_intel i cannot run alsamixer (there is no such file or directory) [15:47] You need to install it first: "apt install alsa-utils", but thet link Rudra Bali posted may have more infos. [15:47] there is no answer [15:47] just question [15:48] Ah I found that one [15:48] Thought it might be of use [15:48] akem: alsa-utils is already the newest version (1.1.3-1ubuntu1). [15:48] Open up a terminal window and type' sudo alsa force-unload' to kill the audio services … Replace the system’s sound config file with the downloaded version: … Type sudo cp ~/Downloads/asound.state /var/lib/alsa … Reboot your Chromebook [15:50] mat_cz, Hm, it should be there, try: locate alsamixer | grep bin [15:51] https://gist.github.com/jeremy-breidenbach/92fc648ed2590ff9cd3a0ae57ed98e4a [15:52] akem: /usr/bin/alsamixer [15:52] maybe because i blacklisted main card? [15:52] ?? [15:53] mat_cz, Nop, type: "/usr/bin/alsamixer"; but there is something wrong with your path maybe, just typing "alsamixer" should work. [15:53] Rudra Bali: give me few minutes and ill try [15:54] /usr/bin/alsamixer [15:54] nie udało się otworzyć miksera: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu [15:55] ?? [15:55] couldnt open alsamixer: there is no such file or cataloug [15:55] Couldn't understand a word of it [15:55] Type the following: [15:55] sudo apt purge alsa-utils [15:56] sudo apt install alsa-utils [15:56] ok, i reboot [15:56] wait please [16:03] ok, im back [16:04] https://pastebin.pl/view/421a95cd just before changinf asound.state [16:04] Worked? [16:05] alsamixergui; alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [16:05] Rudra Bali: nope, still no sound [16:05] You need to reload the alsa drivers before running alsamixer. [16:05] at this github is information about linux 4.4 and then it worked [16:06] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/alsamixer-function-snd_ctl_open-failed-for-default-no-such-file-or-directory-157454/ [16:06] You should ve tried alsamixer first. [16:06] akem: still the same, no such file or directory [16:06] mat_cz, Ok, weird. [16:07] @Rudra Bali [https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/alsamixer-function-snd_c …], Have you checked this one? [16:10] akem: https://pastebin.pl/view/3d30912b [16:11] Ah, I can't understand [16:12] Rudra Bali: still the same, /usr/bin/alsamixer not such file or direcotry [16:12] JoaoGri was added by: JoaoGri [16:13] Try: 'export LANG="en_US.UTF-8"'; cause we don't understand .pl or whatever the language. [16:13] ive deleted blackilisting of snd_hda_... and i ll check now [16:14] mat_cz, Try the full path /usr/bin/alsamixer. [16:14] Looks like there's something wrong with your path too. [16:14] "file /usr/bin/alsamixer" [16:16] akem: /usr/bin/alsamixer: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/l, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=4465385f9bfa7e743f9859e728081fb199aa6e72, stripped [16:16] Download ALSA from here https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Download [16:17] mat_cz, Try as root: "/usr/bin/alsamixer" and try to play some audio as root too, just to see if it's not permissions issue. Like audio group etc. [16:17] when i loaded snd_hda_intel alsamixer works without full path [16:17] With VLC for example. [16:17] @mat_cz [ when i loaded snd_hda_intel alsamixer works without full path], Great! [16:18] Rudra Bali: but stil hdmi is default output [16:18] Check F6 [16:22] akem: i chosen Card: chtmax98090 [16:22] but still no sound [16:23] Tried as root? can you adjust the volume too? [16:25] i added user to audio group but still no sound [16:25] but did it work as root? [16:26] akem: i muted headphones, and set full voulem for speakers and still nothing [16:31] okey, can someont tell mi why if i blackilst hdmi modul alsamixer wont work? even if i have speakers [16:31] Don't mute anything, set the volume up, and try to play sound with VLC and also youtube in the browser for ex. [16:32] I would also try to plug the HDMI just to see if it works via HDMI. [16:32] unfortunetly i dont have hdmi with me now [16:32] ;/ [16:32] Ha ok. [16:32] okey, i need to go [16:32] ill be here tomorrow to play a little bit more with it [16:33] have a nice day/evening [16:33] Take care, bye. === theMetamorphosis is now known as Metamorphosis [16:33] see you all, and thank you for help and time :) I appreciate [16:33] bye [16:34] Bye :) [16:34] Take care === Tiger is now known as Guest3484 [20:18] am I allowed to speak here? [20:19] I guess so......please disregard..... [20:19] Bunkerganoosh, ok [20:22] Hello, would you guys please unban TechPup? He is a fellow user in #puppylinux and he spammed a bit here, but he is only 11 yo and he says he is sorry for doing so. [20:23] Metamorphosis: he spammed *terribly* so and made threats to boot [20:24] wxi Considering his little age and the fact that he regrets doing so, I think he can be pardoned as the admins at #puppylinux did so too. [20:25] Metamorphosis: his age does not excuse him from consequences. he needs to take responsibility and not have others come in to do his work for him. he can email a formal request to lubuntu-council@lists.ubuntu.com [20:26] Thank you. [20:26] 11 yo on Freenode? [20:26] it's not unheard of [20:27] this is why (among other reasons) we try to keep the language polite, although this particular individual violated that very early in his appearance in this channel [20:27] Hm, maybe but it must be rare. [20:27] Not much kids on Freenode usually. [20:27] i would say that there are an ever increasing number of them [20:27] (juvenilles at least) [20:28] Yeah, with Coronavirus around, I see too many bored adolescents joining IRC. [20:28] i was speaking outside of that context, from observations over the past few years [20:29] What about all that fancy "social media" the kids are into these days? [20:30] They're doing the twitter, the face-book, and that new tick-tock. [20:30] it's not just the kids. you can pretty much age a person based on their social media usage [20:30] what age am i if i don't have any social media usage [20:30] dax: geriatric. [20:30] you have one foot in the grave, dax [20:31] ^ [20:31] i think your heuristic's missing the paranoid millenial demographic [20:31] they still probably use some combination of signal, whatsapp, wickr, telegram, or the like [20:32] although there's that little tiny flip phone contingent, but they're likely to get pushed back to smartphones given the rise of 5g and the fall of 3g [20:33] yeah, really.....i had to get a new phone when 2G went away [20:34] Most of the juvenile population are into social media services like Facebook, instagram and Snapchat. I like it when I see a 11 YO tries to install Linux and learn commands. [20:34] dax: actually i think the key in figuring you out is knowing whether or not you have used a rotary and/or pulse phone more than once and/or whether or not you've used dialup [20:34] i've used all of those things and im a millenial :s [20:35] Metamorphosis: i don't disagree with you. as long as they play nice with everyone else. i mean, i like it when an 11 year old goes to the library and tries to read books but if they run down the ailes screaming, naw. [20:35] dax: in that case, you're just weird [20:35] my generation's age 24 to 39 now, it's not *that* young [20:35] i guess if you're on the tail end there, perhaps it makes sense [20:36] i used to browse the library at that age [20:41] Metamorphosis: mind a pm? [20:43] Sure. [20:47] wxl sorry I was disconnected. Sure === theMetamorphosis is now known as Metamorphosis [20:55] @wxl [ dax: in that case, you're just weird], outlier === dz is now known as Guest83818 === nicolas is now known as PooPidoo