/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/04/02/#ubuntu-quality.txt

ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Blog post: Ready. Release Notes: Ready.00:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MateoBioengineer> Can i see that? (re @Eickmeyer: Blog post: Ready. Release Notes: Ready.)00:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @MateoBioengineer Not the blog post, but the release notes (so far): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio00:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MateoBioengineer> Ok00:41
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MateoBioengineer> Ubuntu studio is the one that comes with the modified kernel?00:44
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @MateoBioengineer It's not a "modified" kernel. It's the same kernel with some different compiliation flags. It's actually a subkernel of the generic kernel the rest of the Ubuntu flavors use.00:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MateoBioengineer> What benefits and disadvantages have these different compilations flags?00:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> It enables PREEMPT_RT which essentially makes it a realtime kernel, giving the software realtime access to the hardware, but enables some other flags to keep realtime processes from completely taking over the system, hence it's not a true realtime kernel, but a lowlatency one. The only real advantage is when it comes to audio processing.00:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> The disadvantages are it can be slower with video processing, but the tradeoff is relatively minor.00:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MateoBioengineer> Why the others flavour don't use it?00:53
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Because the only advantage is for professional audio production, not for general use.00:53
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MateoBioengineer> Ok00:55
Eickmeyer[m]I just had the most useless error ever:02:51
* Eickmeyer[m] uploaded an image: image.png (25KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xsAvPzjebUfmCWfsnScMfzxH >02:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> Winning02:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> Test succeeded02:52
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> Who gets to fix that bug with all that info?02:52
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <troyBORG> Apport? Is that an App? (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <Eickmeyer[m]> uploaded an image: image.png (25KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xsAvPzjebUfmCWfsnScMfzxH >)03:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Apport is Ubuntu's crash handler. (re @troyBORG: Apport? Is that an App?)03:53
valorieit's a good app when it works03:57
valorieexcept when it crashes03:57
valorieit's the soul of `ubuntu-bug`03:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Zachariah> Yes, when the app crash reporter crashes, you have problems.03:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <schykle> I laughed a little too hard at this. I really like crash/info message bloopers 😅 (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <Eickmeyer[m]> uploaded an image: image.png (25KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xsAvPzjebUfmCWfsnScMfzxH >)04:28
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MateoBioengineer> is there any way to have dual boot and have Ubuntu with zfs?04:49
guivercA 'install-alongside' can't be expected to work if the system has a FDE(full disk encryption) install to start with; wouldn't it be impossible to shrink an encrypted partition??  (my last install was FDE)04:58
guiverc:)   option 'install alongside' isn't offered anyway :)05:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> welcome Mark05:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> hope you filed a bug report for this (re @MateoBioengineer: )05:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> Today is day one so lets all push the #UbuntuTestingWeek hashtag on twitter and facebook as much as we can to increase the awareness05:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Jibel> @MateoBioengineer at the moment it is only possible with 2 separate disks. With a single drive it'll install ZFS on the entire disk.06:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/124564498499010150509:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> https://www.facebook.com/6723083591/posts/10157981584038592/09:34
lotuspsychjetnx popey09:47
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> welcome @carmelo_caldarella10:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> thanks @popeydc10:43
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> np :)10:43
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> hopefully alot more news websites will put out the word now seeing it there10:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> I dunno, it's not a thing I'd expect mainstream news tech sites to talk about. It's very much an enthusiast activity.10:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> although, saying that, there's already tons of people running 20.0410:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> was thinking more of phoronix, omgubuntu, and the likes10:50
lotuspsychjei have an rss linux bot at ##techrss didnt see any spreads yet10:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> /me pokes joey at omg10:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i'm following 'ubuntu testing week' on twitter to keep up to date on people using the hashtag and not :D10:52
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Looks like ubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-mate, ubuntu-budgie, ubuntustudio will get respun beta candidate images in a bit, to get a zfs fix in11:06
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> heheh11:06
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> I can ninja edit the discourse post to point to new urls11:06
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> May not need to change depending how you linked?11:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> I pointed to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds11:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> I don't 'think' that will change. Just the download links it leads to when you click through. However, we will check/see when they get done :)11:10
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> kk11:11
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> thanks for the heads-up11:11
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> welcome Gordon11:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <S4ik4t> /me11:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Gordon> Thank you12:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <carmelo_caldarella> Thanks (re @philipz: welcome @carmelo_caldarella)12:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> which flavor are you testing today12:25
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <carmelo_caldarella> I would like to try xubuntu 20.04 but I am blocked by this annoying bug and I have not yet received concrete assistance answers. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1865130 (re @philipz: which flavor are you testing today)12:29
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1865130 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, trying to reset the VCPU!!!" [High,Fix released]12:29
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> you can still test in a VM (virtual machine) if this issue is affecting your hardware12:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <carmelo_caldarella> I had already thought about it, but the virtual machine is too slow for my pc (re @philipz: you can still test in a VM (virtual machine) if this issue is affecting your hardware)12:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> is your pc very old?12:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <carmelo_caldarella> Yes, 2008 (re @philipz: is your pc very old?)12:34
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> and presume no other pcs are around :(12:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <carmelo_caldarella> Yes (re @philipz: and presume no other pcs are around :()12:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> well thanks for trying. do you speak more than one language?12:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> if so, you can contribute with translations12:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <carmelo_caldarella> for bug 1865130 a fix was recently released but it did not solve the problem for the radeon hd 3450 video card open source driver12:40
ubot5bug 1865130 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, trying to reset the VCPU!!!" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186513012:40
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> did you try the '(safe graphics)' options:12:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> when the system first boots up and you see a keyboard and accessibility icon appear. you press the escape key, select your language, and then you can see these options12:47
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> for those wishing to retweet12:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/124562199534314291212:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> https://twitter.com/UbuntuBudgie/status/124567711138753331212:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/124564617785015910612:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> reminder to kubuntu team to use the hashtag :D12:59
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @tsimonq2 @guiverc reminder to put out a tweet for lubuntu13:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @Eickmeyer reminder to put out a tweet for ubuntu studio13:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @franksmcb @wimpress any update from the ubuntu mate team13:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @RikMills did the .xcf file come in handy?13:05
=== lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <wimpress> What do you need? (re @philipz: @franksmcb @wimpress any update from the ubuntu mate team)13:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> was your team able to finalize the ubuntu mate announcement for the testing week?13:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <wimpress> We will, but either later today or tomorrow.13:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <wimpress> We have a new section of the website that explains how to pitch in with QA/testing. That stuff is not live just yet.13:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @wimpress thanks for the update. please do promote the #UbuntuTestingWeek hashtag when every you push it on social media13:24
-queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)13:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity ppc64el [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)13:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)13:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)13:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> not had the chance yet. (re @philipz: @RikMills did the .xcf file come in handy?)13:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @philipz I think you're doing a great job with this, but considering I have a bug 1851346 that's breaking people's installations, that's taking my time.13:31
ubot5bug 1851346 in ubuntustudio-live (Ubuntu Focal) "Ubuntu Studio 19.10 Installer Causes Wanted Programs to be Removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185134613:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @Eickmeyer keep up the good fight. look forward to testing studio out, though i think i can only do it as effective as @popeydc did in his video. :D13:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> the knome website has changed from what i looked like yesterday:13:51
lotuspsychjeRikMills: affect & commented bug 187035313:52
ubot5bug 1870353 in mypaint (Ubuntu) "mypaint 2.0 fails to start - missing python module 'distutils.spawn'" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187035313:52
RikMillslotuspsychje: thanks!13:53
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Mark> Thanks Yousuf! Glad to be here and help test xubuntu (re @philipz: welcome Mark)14:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Thanks for the invite14:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Thanks for the invite, whoever was behind from Xubuntu (edited)14:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @ItzSwirlz guess that would be me :D14:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> welcome Ricardo14:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> haha14:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I'm okay, i typically do qa tests14:55
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Pleasure to be here14:55
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I also did find a thing with cinnamon-settings i'll report to mainstream debian14:55
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> It looks like system info looks for tag "linux_distribution" in cinnamon-remix but I can't seem to find it.14:56
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I opened an issue and its private, i'll fix that real fast.14:56
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> Hi! I'm excited about testing and give feedback! Thank you all in advance!!!14:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> :)14:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nemo-python/+bug/186582814:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1865828 in nemo-python (Ubuntu) "Fails to load extensions with python3.8" [Undecided,Fix released]14:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> wait wrong one14:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> glad to have you aboard Ricardo. which flavor are you testing?14:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/186958514:59
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 1869585 not found14:59
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> yeah it automatically set it private.14:59
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Finally, fixed15:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/186958515:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Reported this a while ago-except it was private15:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> So now I don't think anyone will see it, but worth a shot.15:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Also I will check up on Kylin-last time I tested their theming and stuff was well, not working well. It seemed sort of broken. I'll launch a test today.15:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> This week will be Ubuntu Studio15:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> For you, or does every week we decide to test a random thing?15:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> It's because it is near to finish the lts version, and I am a long time user of this flavor...15:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Oh. That’s fine15:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> I'm thinking about join more flavors and the canonical for testing, let's see how much I can help...15:10
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> There’s never a limit 8)15:12
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> plan to test all the flavors during this testing week15:14
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Testing week starts Thursday or basically the week is a Sun to Sun15:15
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yes started today till next wednesday15:15
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Nice15:16
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> wecome @MrPer428015:18
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> Thx - I want to join in on the testing - will upgrade my workstation from 19.10  and also test on Raspi415:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> glad to have you aboard15:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Welcome to the uhhh15:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Are we a ship or airplane15:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Or a naval fleet15:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Zachariah> We're more like a comedy troupe.15:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yes the iso hunting ship and bug hunting fleet15:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> wait15:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> you're our 69th member15:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> ok sorry15:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> yes. Welcome to the bug hunting fleet.15:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> budgie's banner - https://ubuntubudgie.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/header-744x268.jpg15:23
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> if you need help with the upgrade, you can check popey's video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7DmV7V2rts (re @MrPer4280: Thx - I want to join in on the testing - will upgrade my workstation from 19.10  and also test on Raspi4)15:28
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> All - getting my feet wet, should I file a bug on this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DM7d4ZBZ8W/16:02
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> updated my Raspi416:03
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @MrPer4280 did you do an apt update before the apt upgrade?16:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> @philipz  - yes I did16:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> can someone with python knowledge check out @MrPer4280's paste16:23
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @MrPer4280 you are trying to upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04, correct?16:23
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> Jeepers - I can't keep up with you. haha (re @philipz: budgie's banner - https://ubuntubudgie.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/header-744x268.jpg)16:25
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> the 'line buffering blah blah blah.....'? as far as I know that is annoying, but harmless16:25
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> you tweeted it way before i posted it here :D (re @bashfulrobot: Jeepers - I can't keep up with you. haha)16:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> I installed from an image yesterday, and did the "apt update; apt upgrade" thing16:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yep that should be sufficient to keep it updated16:29
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> as @RikMills said, you can ignore the python errors16:29
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> yeah, I have been pretty bad at interacting in this channel. (few things on the go currently). (re @philipz: you tweeted it way before i posted it here :D)16:30
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> Thanks for posting though.16:30
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> ok - thanks16:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> pasted it here so others can get ideas for their banners :D (re @bashfulrobot: Thanks for posting though.)16:32
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> 👍 Appreciated regardless. (re @philipz: pasted it here so others can get ideas for their banners :D)16:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> On QA kylin still seems like they’re in trouble16:34
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Actually they are mostly good it’s only their desktop16:35
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i wanted to try out their new UKUI, looks quite interesting16:35
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> You guys got everything16:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> We need the upgrades16:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yep ubuntu's got all the popular DEs as flavors16:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> the preview of UKUI was quite nice - https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1232862919798341632/pu/vid/640x360/3fP57cA-rYyepPf9.mp4?tag=1016:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <brsch> wow16:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Yeah themes are still broken for people16:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Should we have to worry about subiquity16:40
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> whats subiquity?16:41
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> the server installer16:41
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Server16:41
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I’ll do it16:41
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> On my personal computer lol16:42
oerheks:-)16:43
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Studio's Banner:16:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> nice16:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> maybe adjust the spacing above and below '20.04 LTS' to be equal16:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> is the banner going on a new blog post?16:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> That's likely. I did the spacing that way intentionally to separate the idea slightly.16:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yep i thought you may have after looking at it again :D16:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> maybe change the color of it to further emphasize it that way16:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I decided not to do it, too complidoged and not the best for a guy with crazy partitions17:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> This better?:17:03
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> 👌17:04
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> I feel like the "Beta Released" line still isn't quite center, though.17:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i thoughts so as well, but didnt want to say anything :D17:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> presume its likely because the center 'ubuntu studio' text isnt centered, but the entire logo is centered17:06
EickmeyerProbably. Figuring that out now.17:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> over here i left aligned the logo and the line below it, so things didnt look out of place (re @philipz: )17:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Now I've got it.:17:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> third line is, but 2nd isnt:17:12
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> That's a much easier fix because it doesn't have the blur.17:12
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Wish I had some time to play with banners. 😞17:16
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer>17:17
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> toss me the artwork and let me try to whip up something for you (re @RikMills: Wish I had some time to play with banners. 😞)17:17
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> previous twitter banner:17:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> had just pulled the same image of the kubuntu website :D17:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> is this the 20.04 wallpaper? (re @RikMills: )17:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> At the moment17:21
-queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready17:22
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Probably not great for a banner background17:23
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> i love that wallpaper17:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yep its definitely a nice one17:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> I hated it at first. However, I have grown to like it now! (re @popeydc: i love that wallpaper)17:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> :)17:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> We also added that, which was a runner up in the plasma wallpaper competition17:26
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <DarinMiller> I had not seen that one yet, I like it also!17:26
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> Picking autologin crashes the login screen for me. I need to manually kill gdm3 from a console in order to log in. Only happens on my machine using nvidia drivers. Against what package should I file that bug? (Or is that a known issue?)17:27
lotuspsychjeBenedikt: wich ubuntu flavour are you on?17:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> that's also lovely (re @RikMills: )17:28
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Udange> Ubuntu Software does not appear in the applidogion menu, but when you go to "Open Software Now" still in the welcome screen, Ubuntu Software opens.17:29
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> lotuspsychje: stock Ubuntu17:29
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <TiagoVercosa> it's beautiful! (re @RikMills: )17:29
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> Yup! Had that too! (re @Udange: Ubuntu Software does not appear in the applidogion menu, but when you go to "Open Software Now" still in the welcome screen, Ubuntu Software opens.)17:30
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Udange Are you just asking which package to file a bug against?17:30
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Udange> Will Ubuntu Software be removed in the final version? (re @Benedikt: Yup! Had that too!)17:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> Yes and no :).17:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> The snap of the software store will be shipped17:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> so it can be updated more regularly17:31
lotuspsychjeBenedikt: wich nvidia chipset do you have, and wich driver version loaded please?17:32
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Was very tempted to make that the default, but keeping the Plasma winner seemed a tiny tiny bit better long term (re @TiagoVercosa: it's beautiful!)17:32
Eickmeyerlotuspsychje: Use @ when trying to highlight someone across the Telegram bridge.17:34
EickmeyerOtherwise it doesn't work.17:34
lotuspsychjeoh okay17:34
lotuspsychje@Benedikt: wich nvidia chipset do you have, and wich driver version loaded please?17:34
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <TiagoVercosa>  (re @RikMills: Was very tempted to make that the default, but keeping the Plasma winner seemed a tiny tiny bit better long term)17:35
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> damn that looks good. very ubuntu! (re @TiagoVercosa: )17:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> lotuspsychje: Card's a GTX1060 and the driver package 440.64-0ubuntu3.17:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Which is probably why Plasma people didn't pick it! 🙄🤣 (re @RikMills: damn that looks good. very ubuntu!)17:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <TiagoVercosa> Thanks (re @RikMills: damn that looks good. very ubuntu!)17:37
lotuspsychje@Benedikt ok that sounds like latest driver, maybe you could switch a driver version, just to test?17:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> will do!17:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> lotuspsychje: I tried all three available driver versions 390, 435, 440 and the problem persists with all of them.17:53
lotuspsychje@Benedikt tnx for testing that, so you narrowed down the problem its not about driver version, this does not occur when you manual login?17:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> Exactly. If I switch off autologin the same lock screen comes up but then I can input my password and log on without any problem.17:55
lotuspsychje@Benedikt sounds like bug #184580117:56
lotuspsychje@Benedikt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/184580117:57
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1845801 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-435 (Ubuntu Eoan) "[nvidia] Automatic login fails and then all subsequent logins fail. Killing gnome-session-binary fixes it, or just not using automatic login." [Low,Confirmed]17:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> welcome @KaiLoveLinux18:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Hello18:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @RikMills what do you think:18:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> nice18:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> where are these banners going?18:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i've seen you avatar on twitter :D (re @KaiLoveLinux: Hello)18:02
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> Rik wants to put it on twitter (re @popeydc: where are these banners going?)18:02
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @Eickmeyer where you putting yours?18:02
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> neat18:03
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Zachariah> I like it. I feel like the lines of the Fossa should be a little thicker so it matches the font. Plus, it's a cool animal and should have a little more emphasis. (re @philipz: )18:03
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @philipz Blog post. Front page is a little hard to alter, but the beta will definitely be linked on the front page.18:04
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> fossa pulled from what martin uploaded on discourse. not sure how to thinken the lines18:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> Zachariah ^^18:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Zachariah> Do you have the original drawing of the Fossa?18:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> darkened it though18:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> the svg (re @Zachariah: Do you have the original drawing of the Fossa?)18:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> Where do I put suggestions that aren`t bugs?18:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> what kind of suggestion? (re @Ricardo: Where do I put suggestions that aren`t bugs?)18:06
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-mascot-wallpapers/14621 (re @Zachariah: Do you have the original drawing of the Fossa?)18:06
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Zachariah> Are you rasterizing the SVG for the banner?18:06
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yes (re @Zachariah: Are you rasterizing the SVG for the banner?)18:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> At DateTime Configuration screen, the Timezone selection has a long list with a combo box without scrollbar or initial letter as hotkey, we have to scroll down by arrows all the list.18:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Actually, I gave you the twitter one as 1st example to come to hand. Not quite sure where we want one at this stage. (re @philipz: Rik wants to put it on twitter)18:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Ricardo The map is clickable.18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> interesting. dunno if that's possible. i just click the map (re @Ricardo: At DateTime Configuration screen, the Timezone selection has a long list with a combo box without scrollbar or initial letter as hotkey, we have to scroll down by arrows all the list.)18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> hahahaha18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> Sorry about that, old habits18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> :)18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> :D18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> dont try to type on that page, as it wont recognize many cities18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> it's okay, it's only been clickable for about 14 years :)18:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> haha18:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> Yes, I know, but I only click during setup, I think i`m getting old18:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> aren't we all! :D18:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Zachariah> Then just rasterize it on a transparent background in GIMP. Do Select -> By color. Click anywhere on the lines to select it all. Then do Select -> Grow. Add 1 or 2 pixels. Then select the paint bucket, change mode to Fill whole selection. Click anywhere inside the selected area and it will fill it in.18:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Benedikt> lotuspsychje: Thank you, that is exactly the bug I'm hitting. I'll see if I can add any info. (re @Zachariah: I like it. I feel like the lines of the Fossa should be a little thicker so it matches the font. Plus, it's a cool animal and should have a little more emphasis.)18:10
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> Zachariah don't think it will come out crisp with your suggestion18:11
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Zachariah> Yeah, it may round off the edges.18:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i did darken the lines, as inverting the white color to black wasnt dark enough18:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Udange>18:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Udange>18:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> that looks fun18:14
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> The previous kubuntu one a bit of I did some blur or drop shadow or somesuch to the mascot lines to make them not so thin and sharp against the background18:16
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> @philipz anyway, please don't spend any more time. If I can grab the xcf and tweak if needed, that is more than enough. thanks :)18:17
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> /me goes to test build Knome...18:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> ^ HAHAHAHA18:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> /me18:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> ok didn't expect that18:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> /me looks at calendar (re @RikMills: /me goes to test build Knome...)18:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> ha18:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> done as a DM. its 23mb ;D (re @RikMills: /me goes to test build Knome...)18:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills>  (re @philipz: done as a DM. its 23mb ;D)18:22
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> must be the wallpaper in the background18:22
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Oof.  Git upload to launchpad going 55KBps... (you know everyone's working from home when...)18:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Yeah, they had to switch from png to jpg to make the size not HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE (re @philipz: must be the wallpaper in the background)18:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Too much detail18:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> definitely will shrink once you crop that portion out18:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @popeydc any luck contacting joe?18:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> yup18:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> he's on it18:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> sweet18:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> welcome @metalsonne18:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <metalsonne> hello ;)18:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> what brings you around this evening?18:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Gonna finish up a couple things on the desktop, and I think it's about time I work on Ubuntu Lumina again, try to get a version out just in the nick of time18:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> /me checks his watch, sees 11:39, laughs at @philipz18:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> its 10:40pm here, so are you 1 hour ahead or 11 hours behind?18:40
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <metalsonne> I saw the testers group on th ubuntu page, so I chose to visit it to be up to date, whats planned, but maybe twitter is better ^^ (re @philipz: what brings you around this evening?)18:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> nice. so will you be testing the ubuntu iso in a VM or by USB? (re @metalsonne: I saw the testers group on th ubuntu page, so I chose to visit it to be up to date, whats planned, but maybe twitter is better ^^)18:43
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <metalsonne> I would give it a try on the upcoming weekend maybe in a VM, that would be senceful18:44
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <metalsonne> Up to now I don't test it. Maybe usb is better, because I would install it in three weeks on my surcafe pro 3 to get better results then the 19.118:44
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <metalsonne> This is to buggy by scaling and such other stuff on this device18:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> I got an broken layout at Audacity, may I report it for who?18:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Ricardo What do you mean by "broken layout"?18:46
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> It's not broken but, wrong size combos at mainscreen, if I change the theme of XFCe it get less worse, the object works, but I need to click on it to read what option was selected... :)18:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Ricardo I see what you mean, just tried it on KDE Plasma and saw something similar to what you described. Would you mind uploading a screenshot?18:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> Just a second..18:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <metalsonne> maybe I should join the group on this weekend again, now its to early, cu18:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> https://imgur.com/CLbwm4L.png18:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Yep, almost identical to what I saw, which means the theme isn't the issue. Open a terminal, type "ubuntu-bug audacity".18:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Attach that screenshot to the bug report.18:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Ricardo> Thanks... My first day doing this... :)18:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Chances are I'll get the bug report and confirm it since it's part of the Ubuntu Studio package set.18:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> That said, I don't think this is something to add to the qatracker.18:52
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> congrats. we look forward to more. (re @Ricardo: Thanks... My first day doing this... :))18:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> downloading focal fossa iso, let's see if I can get things done in time lol19:12
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> look forward to seeing your spin. when do you perceive it to be ready.19:12
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I am a bit of a perfectionist19:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> I have 20.04 server running on my raspi4 4GB with 256 GB ssh - sweet19:56
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrPer4280> 256 GB ssd19:56
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> well we can try, but there will always be issues with software (re @KaiLoveLinux: I am a bit of a perfectionist)19:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I know (re @philipz: well we can try, but there will always be issues with software)19:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> think joe really messed up with this one:20:03
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/124578824283165081620:03
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> have a good night all.20:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> hm - looking at the ISO respin for budgie...20:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> Started 5 hours ago20:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> Estimated finish 4 hours ago20:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> ehhhh20:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <wimpress> We have a call to action for Testing Week in our release notes for the beta, due today. (re @philipz: @wimpress thanks for the update. please do promote the #UbuntuTestingWeek hashtag when every you push it on social media)20:47
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Cool20:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> be kind (re @philipz: )20:51
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I don't see any "mess ups" I just see creativity and effort (re @philipz: )20:52
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> was the release notes publicized, as i didnt see it on the ubuntu mate twitter (re @wimpress: We have a call to action for Testing Week in our release notes for the beta, due today.)20:53
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> for all that wish to retweet - https://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/124581480700304588820:53
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> yes i guess i was being harsh (re @popeydc: be kind)20:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @popeydc looks like created an article version of your video - https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-20-0420:56
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> Awesome20:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> He does every release I think20:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> So it's likely made up from content he's recycled a little.20:57
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> I think he may have failed to mention that 18.04 won't get the upgrade prompt (or ability to upgrade without -d) until 20.04.1 is released.21:03
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Welcome @electragician21:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Welcome Vitor Vitor22:44
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> It looks like for even classic Ubuntu settings is broken (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/1869585)23:01
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1869585 in cinnamon (Ubuntu) "cinnamon-settings.py crashed with AttributeError in createSystemInfos(): module 'platform' has no attribute 'linux_distribution'" [Medium,New]23:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I’ll report it to Debian23:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <wimpress> Hi all.23:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <wimpress> Sadly, there will not be a beta release today.23:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Hello Wimpy23:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <wimpress> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-April/040957.html23:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Darn23:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <bashfulrobot> Ah well. Thanks.23:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <schykle> Thanks for the heads up. Will await patiently23:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Why is Calamares he worst thing to compile?23:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> It is?23:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> For me at this moment, yes23:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <popeydc> Qt is a bit of a pain to compile IMO23:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Yeah, so I cant cmake Calamares because of qt5linguisttools23:10
valoriethere is a cala channel: #calamares23:10
valoriealso if wxl or tsimonq2 are around ^^^23:10
* valorie is upgrading the travel lappy to the beta23:11
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> Yeah it's not a Calamares issue, QT5 is being mean23:11
* valorie stays silent because "family friendly"23:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Aw man. I did see rebuilds and errors in QA. We are good though (re @wimpress: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-April/040957.html)23:14
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Qt5LinguistToolsConfig.cmake? (re @KaiLoveLinux: Yeah, so I cant cmake Calamares because of qt5linguisttools)23:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> what is the KPluginFactory library and how to I get it23:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I dealt with that (re @RikMills: Qt5LinguistToolsConfig.cmake?)23:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> there is a header name that in libkf5coreaddons-dev (re @KaiLoveLinux: what is the KPluginFactory library and how to I get it)23:25
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I have that installed23:26
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <kc2bez> Which version do you need Kai? (re @KaiLoveLinux: Why is Calamares he worst thing to compile?)23:27
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I am compiling 3.2.2123:28
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <kc2bez> Ah. We have 3.2.20 in the focal archive if it helps.23:28
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> it might23:30
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> how may I get it?23:30
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <kc2bez> You can look at the packaging here https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares/23:31
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <kc2bez> If you just need the package you can just do an apt install calamares23:32
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> or get the source withdget -u https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/calamares/3.2.20-0ubuntu1/calamares_3.2.20-0ubuntu1.dsc23:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> or get the source with23:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> dget -u https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/calamares/3.2.20-0ubuntu1/calamares_3.2.20-0ubuntu1.dsc (edited)23:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> or get the source with23:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> dget -u https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/calamares/3.2.20-0ubuntu1/calamares_3.2.20-0ubuntu1.dsc (edited)23:33
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I have the installer, will theme it for the full release23:34
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <kc2bez> You will want to look at calamares-settings-ubuntu as well.23:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <kc2bez> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/23:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <kc2bez> If you have any questions feel free to reach out.23:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Kai I have no idea what you’re trying to accomplish23:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> idk either but I did it23:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I already setup a Calamares for you23:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Whatever23:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Good job23:42

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