[00:00] <parrotlover> I didn't produce any usable work that was accepted, and rage quit before my tensorflow keyboard upgrades using AI for full perfect keyboard... And I was ready to push that and allow free use of it but got banned
[00:00] <ikmaak> ah, ok. i can see that could be distracting. but maybe you could do the longform in a temp #ubports-parrotlover chan?
[00:00] <parrotlover> they also told me to stop calling my work UT/Halium because I was rewriting in a completely different way every aspect of what these things do
[00:00] <ikmaak> that is their right...
[00:01] <parrotlover> yeah... I accepted that... but I said I hope they will see when it's ready and adopt it once i prove I can and have made it... and I didn't argue that, I just left the team with 0 actual contribution
[00:01] <ikmaak> but it sounds like if you do the right things, you are something like a differently orientated and maybe badly promoted competition
[00:03] <parrotlover> the main reason I was upset about my work not being wanted is most of the users who were active all really wanted me to do it, and the dev team said no to all of it
[00:03] <ikmaak> if you just package the keyboard in a way that others are able to use it, maybe they will pick up on that, and later improvements can follow as it would not be the first crazy idea that works
[00:03] <parrotlover> I really want UT to adopt my platform and continue to be a product, and I would love to see it succeed fully because that has no negative impact on me at all and is good for many many users and devs
[00:04] <ikmaak> that is what ubuntu solved with ppa
[00:04] <ikmaak> we do not trust you, but if others trust you, let them install it via the ppa
[00:05] <parrotlover> Okay, yeah... but Halium isn't fully capable and perfect and according to devs it probably never will be when I was last told about it's potential...
[00:05] <parrotlover> I just wanted to solve problems with ideas I planned to do
[00:06] <parrotlover> and I wish UT the best of luck and hope it becomes widely adopted
[00:06] <parrotlover> I have no ill feelings about the project or any of the devs who weren't descriminitory of my mental health issues
[00:06] <parrotlover> do you have aarch64 18.04 rootfs working yet on UT?
[00:06] <ikmaak> most projects that do not adopt ideas from outside they do not want to be left with untrusted and maybe unmaintainable code.
[00:07] <parrotlover> ikmaak, my project takes code from lots of places in GNU/Linux FOSS teritory because I don't believe I can do better in almost all cases than existing products
[00:07] <parrotlover> It's mostly reworked to debug untested usage GPL stuff
[00:08] <parrotlover> It's also using reverse engineering which UT told me I can't do because it's illegal in most countries.. it's not illegal here
[00:08] <parrotlover> So, that's how i have driver support without android and in kernel with no manual porting work
[00:08] <parrotlover> that took over a year to get working on a single device, but has partial working features in most test devices in my collection
[00:09] <ikmaak> that is just an issue with the law knowledge the UT team wants to have, or not.
[00:10] <ikmaak> oooh, that would be even better than halium, if i understand correctly. bypassing android should be the final goal.
[00:10] <ikmaak> and other creepware pre-os stuff
[00:10] <parrotlover> Yeah... that was my main idea/intention to fix the issues with full hardware support across all supported devices
[00:11] <parrotlover> But I went so far away from halium that it didn't really make sense to call it halium, and I was told not to when asked if I should rename it
[00:11] <parrotlover> I accepted that
[00:11] <ikmaak> that would empty a lot of lanfills :)
[00:11] <ikmaak> i would say that is reasonable
[00:13] <parrotlover> I just wanted to come check on UT and see if it's improved and solved big issues and talk about it but no one has talked to me
[00:13] <ikmaak> but that is just because you are trying to solve the issue, while they are working around it
[00:13] <parrotlover> except you, who seem to like my ideas in theory but wonder if I am capable of doing this really in reality which is totally a reasonable thought to have
[00:13] <ikmaak> if i were ut, and worried about the reverse engineering thing, that would also be a reason not to talk to you...
[00:14] <parrotlover> yeah I guess, I will just ignore UT I guess for now. I wish UT and Halium the best of luck
[00:14] <ikmaak> i am not really in the UT team. i just have ideas about what phones should be
[03:30] <Fuseteam> Is that you will?
[03:32] <Fuseteam> I don't recall the team outright rejecting your work
[03:34] <Fuseteam> Iirc they wanted to see the code but it wasn't.....in a presentable state yet at the time
[13:28] <parrotlover> Hello
[13:35] <Fuseteam> long time
[13:35] <parrotlover> Fuseteam, yes... Very long. I haven't had a reason to come back and came to see progress of UT and announce that I am pushing all my code I said I would make myself which no one wanted to upstream sources
[13:36] <parrotlover> I need probably 1000 hours to prepare all the code and submit patches and PR's
[13:36] <parrotlover> but 1000 hours isn't a lot really. I also no longer intend to profit in any way from the project I was doing
[13:39] <parrotlover> Like in the next year or 2 it will all be upstream, and I will host a repo for the whole thing myself too for people who want to just have my platform and a distro I support officially ready to go.
[13:40] <parrotlover> it only works properly on one device with full hardware support, and that full support is basically the same as Android level of the blobs support. I am working hard to add more functionality and abilities than I have
[13:40] <parrotlover> Right now I'm in "I need to sleep" mode though... just signed back to IRC to get scrollback
[13:41] <Fuseteam> cool look forward to when that code is pushed
[13:42] <parrotlover> Fuseteam, I will love to share it. I will even send out free devices to the UT team, as long as they agree to use them for alpha testing purposes
[13:43] <Fuseteam> btw i think you'd be interested in postmarket os they are essentially trying to upstream android devices as well
[13:43] <parrotlover> Fuseteam, nice
[13:44] <Fuseteam> anyway don't let me keep you from getting your sleep
[13:44] <parrotlover> Fuseteam, yeah I need to... been 2 nights awake
[13:45] <parrotlover> good night, or day, or whatever
[13:45] <parrotlover> feel free to highlight me if you have any questions about it and I'll answer when I wake up
[13:45] <Fuseteam> sure nigths!
[17:56] <andr01d> Hello, That's great news about UBports pinephone in preorder. Does anyone know if pinephone is a supported device for UBports Anbox?
[17:59] <parrotlover> Does Pinephone use Halium also?
[18:00] <parrotlover> also, any aarch64 fixes for using rootfs yet?
[18:02] <parrotlover> or non 16.04 based builds?
[18:47] <Fuseteam> pinephone is halium free and no anbox is in development stasis as the focus on more on getting everything working correctly, including the switch to wayland and what not