| RAOF | Aww, yeah. Looks like removing a couple of extensions has broken my desktop's GNOME Shell! | 00:31 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | Now, rather than taking 10s to unlock, it just immediately hits the “oh, no!” screen. | 00:32 |
| RAOF | Hmmmm. Because apparently removing an extension from the extensions.gnome.org interface does *not* tell GNOME Shell not to try to load it next time?! | 00:38 |
| RAOF | Soooo. | 00:43 |
| RAOF | How would I disable extensions? | 00:44 |
| RAOF | `dconf dump /org/gnome/shell/` shows `disable_user_extensions=true` and does not have an enabled-extensions key. | 00:46 |
| jamesh | gnome-shell-extension-prefs? | 00:58 |
| RAOF | Do I need to run that from a GNOME session? | 01:00 |
| jamesh | not sure | 01:00 |
| RAOF | Well, `gnome-extensions list` returns no output, so I *think* it thinks there are no enabled extensions… | 01:06 |
| RAOF | After a reboot it's *still* trying to open the non-existent extension. | 01:09 |
| RAOF | Oh. But `gnome-extensions` is failing with exit value 2, but no output. | 01:10 |
| jamesh | maybe there is some detritus in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell ? | 01:23 |
| kenvandine | RAOF: that isn't desirable :) | 01:32 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: meeting? | 01:32 |
| callmepk | Good morning | 01:32 |
| robert_ancell | callmepk, hello! | 01:33 |
| callmepk | Hi robert_ancell ! | 01:34 |
| RAOF | Ooooh! | 01:37 |
| RAOF | There *was* some detritus, in `~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extension-updates`! | 01:37 |
| RAOF | It looks like if there's something in there, GNOME Shell will unconditionally try to load the extension from `~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/`. Which didn't exist. | 01:38 |
| RAOF | And didn't respect any of the dconf settings. | 01:38 |
| RAOF | I wonder if I can reproduce that… | 01:38 |
| duflu | Oh hi callmepk, jamesh, RAOF, robert_ancell, kenvandine, world | 01:53 |
| kenvandine | good morning duflu | 02:03 |
| callmepk | morning duflu | 02:11 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 06:17 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 06:21 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, happy friday! how are you today? | 06:21 |
| duflu | seb128, going well I think. You? | 06:22 |
| seb128 | I'm good! a bit tired but it's friday so it's ok :) | 06:22 |
| duflu | Life is so exciting these days I am looking forward to just leaving the house to check the mail | 06:22 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 06:24 |
| seb128 | it's frustrating, we had grey sky and rain non stop until 10 days ago | 06:25 |
| seb128 | and now that we are locked down it's sunny and nice every day :/ | 06:25 |
| duflu | I have a lot of flowers in bloom and it's sunny still, so going outside is actually nice | 06:25 |
| duflu | Just not too far | 06:26 |
| seb128 | that's something :) | 06:27 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:34 |
| ricotz | good morning desktopers :) | 06:36 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, regarding indicator-sound https://paste.debian.net/plain/1138187 | 06:36 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks and ricotz | 06:36 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, comment ça va ? | 06:36 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey! how are you? thanks for the fix! | 06:36 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, ricotz | 06:38 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, ça va, et toi ? | 06:38 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ça va bien :) | 06:42 |
| ricotz | seb128, I am good, yw | 06:44 |
| RAOF | duflu: Hopefully the gperftools trace in the GNOME Shell memory bug is helpful. | 07:02 |
| duflu | Sounds good. If there's an email about that it hasn't arrived yet | 07:03 |
| RAOF | Shell must do a lot of allocation, because gperftools absolutely murders its performance (like, 10 second pauses everywhere, minute-long login-times, and such) | 07:03 |
| duflu | Unless you focus only on mmaps (which I recommend) | 07:04 |
| duflu | HEAP_PROFILE_ONLY_MMAP | 07:04 |
| jibel | morning all | 07:24 |
| didrocks | salut jibel ! | 07:25 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks , en forme? | 07:25 |
| didrocks | ça va, et toi ? | 07:26 |
| jibel | ça va, longue veillée pour une release qui n'est jamais arrivée | 07:26 |
| didrocks | ouais, j’ai vu ça :/ | 07:26 |
| jibel | et toujours pas là apparemment | 07:27 |
| didrocks | nope | 07:29 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:38 |
| oSoMoN | happy Friday! | 07:39 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN | 07:43 |
| duflu | Hi jibel and oSoMoN | 07:45 |
| jibel | Good morning duflu | 07:46 |
| seb128 | lut jibel, oSoMoN | 07:49 |
| seb128 | jibel, they have issue with the image build time still? or is that another IS problem? | 07:50 |
| Wimpress | Morning desktoppers | 07:50 |
| seb128 | hey Wimpress, how are you? | 07:50 |
| didrocks | hey Wimpress | 07:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: the image is just published | 07:50 |
| didrocks | seems like an issue with the network when doing the massive build tests the week of a beta | 07:51 |
| seb128 | well done d_oko! | 07:51 |
| Wimpress | Bit tired, but catching up on iso build status, feeling optimistic 🙂 | 07:51 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks, jibel, seb128 | 07:52 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu, Wimpress | 07:53 |
| duflu | Morning Wimpress | 07:57 |
| Laney | moin | 08:01 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:02 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 08:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, happy friday! how is it going? had another late night waiting for ISOs that didn't come or did you manage to call it a day on time yesterday? | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey duflu didrocks seb128 | 08:05 |
| Laney | no I was online until 00:15 | 08:05 |
| Laney | when we figured out it wasn't going to finish and decided to delay | 08:06 |
| seb128 | :-( | 08:06 |
| Laney | yeah was hoping to do some other stuff today | 08:07 |
| Laney | but I guess not really likely now | 08:07 |
| Laney | oh well :p | 08:07 |
| oSoMoN | morning Laney | 08:19 |
| marcustomlinson | morning all | 08:32 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 08:32 |
| Laney | hey oSoMoN marcustomlinson | 08:35 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson, how are you? | 08:49 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: tired :P but that comes with having a newborn | 08:50 |
| marcustomlinson | how you today? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 08:50 |
| seb128 | a bit tired as well, for me it comes from school being closed and tried to work done at the same time, proove to be challenging! | 08:51 |
| seb128 | trying* | 08:52 |
| marcustomlinson | hear, hear | 08:56 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson | 08:59 |
| duflu | seb128, good news: nvidia-440 does support full plymouth graphics. Just not at initrd time. And for a new reason different to the ThinkPads | 09:00 |
| seb128 | duflu, ah, nice! what's the reason? | 09:01 |
| duflu | Wish I knew | 09:01 |
| duflu | Nvidia keeps the kernel's efifb around and it works perfectly in testing. Just not when we want it | 09:02 |
| duflu | Also the Nvidia driver does not VT switch reliably, so the lack of shutdown splash is a different issue | 09:03 |
| seb128 | I should get a nvidia machine at some point, would help testing & debugging things | 09:04 |
| duflu | Seems to be a common sore point in the land of Ubuntu | 09:05 |
| duflu | That's the main reason I still use desktops, so I can switch cards without switching machines | 09:06 |
| xnox | du | 09:14 |
| xnox | duflu: oooh. I have nvidia card. | 09:14 |
| duflu | xnox, any help is welcome then: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/plymouth/plymouth/-/issues/103 | 09:15 |
| duflu | Confusing numbers | 09:15 |
| xnox | duflu: "not at initrd time" how come? Surely we can do that on installer systems. Due to legal reasons, cannot do it on install media. | 09:15 |
| duflu | xnox: This is an *installed* system | 09:16 |
| duflu | Not installer related | 09:16 |
| xnox | Ack! | 09:17 |
| duflu | xnox, I don't support initrd is missing renderers/frame-buffer.so | 09:56 |
| duflu | ? | 09:56 |
| duflu | *suppose* | 09:56 |
| duflu | I don't suppose | 09:56 |
| xnox | duflu: we might have magic to force framebuffer off on Nvidia "cause it doesn't work"?! | 09:58 |
| xnox | In the initrd. | 09:58 |
| duflu | xnox, it does work after booting. Initrd never even tries it | 09:58 |
| duflu | It doesn't load the renderer | 09:58 |
| xnox | Ack. Most likely initramfs-tools bug that like blacklists framebuffer support. | 09:58 |
| xnox | duflu: so, bgrt booting on bios | 10:40 |
| xnox | duflu: can bgrt realiaze that there is no EFI oem logo? and can we have a stock vendor logo to show on the top? cause boot looks unbalanced with all that black space empty | 10:41 |
| xnox | i wonder if we can ship lenovo/dell/asus/acer logos for use in bios boot | 10:42 |
| xnox | horum | 10:42 |
| duflu | xnox, Oh I just closed that bug because I thought the Ubuntu logo is enough in that case | 10:43 |
| duflu | And if it bothers people, disabling legacy boot and CSM might give you back your bgrt, like my ThinkPad | 10:44 |
| duflu | I think black is best in that case though. Otherwise the user gets 3 logos, not just 2 | 10:44 |
| xnox | duflu: can you point me at the bug again? | 10:45 |
| duflu | ... | 10:45 |
| xnox | duflu: re fsckd => i think you did everything right, and i fixed casper, and now it is pretty https://people.canonical.com/~xnox/casper-win.png | 10:45 |
| xnox | this is how it looks when booted under bios | 10:45 |
| duflu | xnox, bug 1837519 | 10:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1837519 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth-theme-spinner should show an Ubuntu logo" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1837519 | 10:46 |
| duflu | Oh, bigger font size? | 10:46 |
| Wimpress | I am on nvidia only here. Plymouth appears to working correctly. | 10:46 |
| duflu | Hmm | 10:46 |
| Wimpress | Albeit, the wrong resolution. | 10:46 |
| duflu | Wimpress, nvidia-440 driver? | 10:47 |
| Wimpress | Can't confirm the remove media prompt. But I will test a full install on another nvidia only system. | 10:47 |
| duflu | Nevermind I am making progress, but it's getting too late for this week | 10:47 |
| Wimpress | duflu: Yes 440. | 10:47 |
| duflu | Wimpress, yeah I know it can work because mine does after boot. Just something weird going on on my desktop | 10:48 |
| xnox | Wimpress: "remove media prompt" => you are testing installer right? we are talking about post-install-booted-system plymouth not working on boot. | 10:48 |
| duflu | Wimpress, I verified that fix a few days ago | 10:48 |
| xnox | Wimpress: installer does not use nvidia graphics, because it legally cannot. | 10:48 |
| duflu | it is fixed in 20200331 onward | 10:48 |
| * xnox is possibly confused. | 10:48 | |
| Wimpress | Yes, I am also talking about post-install system. | 10:48 |
| xnox | oh, ok. | 10:48 |
| * xnox is confused | 10:48 | |
| xnox | nevermind and carry on | 10:48 |
| Wimpress | But will do a full install test on an nvidia system later. | 10:49 |
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| xnox | duflu: I somehow feel we need a fallback OEM graphic, like canonical circle logo | 10:49 |
| xnox | (i.e. just as big as dell logo is) | 10:49 |
| duflu | xnox, I wouldn't because that's too many visual changes. | 10:50 |
| duflu | Not just because it's Friday night | 10:50 |
| xnox | duflu: i wonder, if we can fix qemu firmware to ship SeaBIOS logo that works in BIOS boot in VM =) | 10:52 |
| duflu | It might be a problem with the structure of the bgrt, or it might be the BIOS hiding BGRT in non-pure-EFI boot modes | 10:54 |
| duflu | And good night | 10:54 |
| xnox | night! | 10:54 |
| duflu | Either way, we can hack SeaBIOS | 10:55 |
| xnox | and tianocore logo needs to improve | 10:55 |
| duflu | Yeah | 10:55 |
| duflu | Bye | 10:55 |
| KGB-0 | gnome-shell debian/master Simon McVittie * [merge] merge request !37: WIP: 3.36.1 * https://deb.li/PVai | 13:20 |
| KGB-0 | mutter debian/master Simon McVittie * [merge] merge request !58: WIP: 3.36.1 * https://deb.li/3cOHh | 13:21 |
| * Laney melts into a puddle | 13:27 | |
| Laney | beta finally done | 13:27 |
| * marcustomlinson hands Laney a beer | 13:34 | |
| Laney | thanks marcustomlinson, much required | 13:44 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 14:03 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hellsworth | 14:03 |
| oSoMoN | hey hellsworth | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | good morning hellsworth | 14:03 |
| hellsworth | hi yall | 14:03 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine: should i join the code and sysinternal snap meetings toay? | 14:04 |
| didrocks | hey hellsworth, kenvandine | 14:05 |
| marcustomlinson | also hey kenvandine | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | feeling the love :) | 14:06 |
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