 System info doesn’t even work in Debian
 The error is in file cinnamon-settings.py. Which package is that?
 apt-file search reveals cinnamon-common in ubuntu (re @ItzSwirlz: The error is in file cinnamon-settings.py. Which package is that?)
 Thanks
 I checked cinnamon GitHub
 Linuxmint repos
 It is in cinnamon package
 Thanks for the lesson
 No worries. Happy to help if i can.
 Uh I can’t run apt-time
 apt-file or find it’s flag
 It’s fine
 you can install it with apt
 apt install apt-file
 Oh okay lol
 I looked in install files and sure enough I confirm what you said is corrected
 I looked in install files and sure enough I confirm what you said is correct, haha (edited)
 Reporting now, thx
 It can be pretty handy for your dev environment.
 Indeed
 @KaiLoveLinux I ran into the same problem with a package I work on. Turned out I needed qttools5-dev AND qttools5-dev-tools.
 Both as build deps.
 Oh are you guys talking about slideshow?
 For slideshow you need qtquick
 need packs?
 I'm talking about Qt5LingutstTools.
 🤔
 I can't tell you really anything about that.
 @KaiLoveLinux but please make sure you add those qtquick packages
 Well, if it wasn't finding Qt5LinguistTools, that's why, it needed both of those packages.
 I dealt with both those issues
 coo coo
 documentation: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtlinguist-index.html
 That means nothing when you're looking for the right Ubuntu build dep.
 Yeah.
 I'll check pkgs.org
 It doesn't exist in apt
 @ItzSwirlz It's in qttools5-dev-tools.
 ^
 Yeah, that'll do it
 btw:
 Oooooo! Nice, Kai!
 It works *in theory*. Had it put on a USB and test ran it, should be working just fine!
 Once  it uploads to OSDN of course
 Welcome
 Pretty good! (re @KaiLoveLinux: )
 also, upload your work to github
 192 downloads of our beta today, and there was even a queue to download on Google Drive. 8)
 Excitement:

 I have done it
 Tested it, uploaded it, cried on it
 don't cry
 Send iso image please, i'll playy around on my pc
 got an empty usb
 @ItzSwirlz Don't tell me what to do
 and one min
 well
 how can you cry on a virtual disk?
 big brain
 https://osdn.net/projects/ubuntuluminaremix/releases/72689
 I have not redownloaded it from OSDN, and from experience it isn't perfect.
 Also I built it on extra metal
 In response to cinnamon's system info issue:
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=955594
 Norbert took care of it
 +1 cookie point
 @ItzSwirlz Indeed. You know how to do a sync request?
 No, lol. Any time I try doing pull/merge requests in salsa, I can't figure it out. :P
 Oh. It's really simple. Once the bug is fixed, open a terminal and type "requestsync {packagename}". It does the rest.
 Just takes finding a sponsor at that point to get it moved through.
 Grea
 Great (edited)
 moved through to ubuntu? (re @Eickmeyer: Just takes finding a sponsor at that point to get it moved through.)
 Yep.
 well, i aint an ubuntu member
 i'll see what i can do
 You don't have to be an Ubuntu member for a sync request. You just need a Launchpad account.
 Oh.
[02:45] <oerheks> !sru
 ah in ubuntu. It's in dev-tools! Great
[02:45] <oerheks> file an SRU if you have a reason for this update
 oerheks: SRU isn't for in-development, which this is.
[02:46] <oerheks> oh oke.
[02:47] <Eickmeyer> oerheks: SRU only applies to packages needing updates for already-released versions of Ubuntu. This would be a sync request for a package in Debian that needs to be moved to Ubuntu for a bugfix.
[02:47] <Eickmeyer> Specifically, for one in Focal.
[02:49] <Eickmeyer> oerheks: Also, for context: ItzSwirlz is the lead for the Ubuntu Cinnamon Remix.
 Tomorrow morning or soon it should be updated in debian
 Excellent. Once it is, a simple sync request will do the trick, so long as you find a sponsor to move it through. You have a bug in Launchpad for this, right?
 also-when i put in requestsync (package that doesn't exist), it put in a blank different package. Is this basically how if lets say I made a nemo extension or something, it could get synced into Ubuntu?
 You bet I do! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/1869585 (re @Eickmeyer: Excellent. Once it is, a simple sync request will do the trick, so long as you find a sponsor to move it through. You have a bug in Launchpad for this, right?)
 Welcome
 Yes. That's how you get a downstream sync. (re @ItzSwirlz: also-when i put in requestsync (package that doesn't exist), it put in a blank different package. Is this basically how if lets say I made a nemo extension or something, it could get synced into Ubuntu?)
 @KaiLoveLinux And there you go, how to get things from Debian to Ubuntu for Lumina.
 Cool. You'll want to reference that bug with the sync request. (re @ItzSwirlz: You bet I do! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/1869585)
 🤣thanks
 Will do
 Once it gets uploaded to repo
 Its late anyways, so I'm sure soon they'll update it. Debian has never let us down
 Goodnight/morning guys :)
 Cya josh
 Good night, @ItzSwirlz :)
 Good morning.:)
 I spent 9 hours continuously with no breaks to get my project done, and even then half of it was done prior. I am happy, and content
 GG :)
 Hi folks, can anyone point me to the Kubuntu 2o.o4 beta? I followed the links to the QA Tracker in the below post, but it only shows the daily builds at the moment:
 https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php/76606-Help-Needed-for-Beta-testing
 Betas all got postponed.
 Ah. So best to keep an eye out on the Kubuntu site, then? And any idea when the betas will roll out?
 Your guess is as good as anyone else's. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-April/040957.html
 Thanks for the heads-up, Erich! Much appreciated.
 Quite welcome. :)
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)
 I can sync the fix from debian, closing that bug, when launchpad picks up the new debian upload. (re @ItzSwirlz: You bet I do! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/1869585)
[07:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)
[07:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)
[07:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)
[07:43] <L0S7M1ND> Hello 'ello
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200402)
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> welcome L0S7M1ND
 iso image building issues appear to be resolved.
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> @wimpress zfx fixes inside complete now?
 Yes.
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> great, tnx to all the devs!!
[08:17] <L0S7M1ND> :P  awesome!  Looking forward to trying out zfs. "D
 waiting for your feedback then :)
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> burning a Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] for live test
 FYI, the Kubuntu ISO did not need a rebuild, so will still be the 2020-04-01 one
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> test time
 Yep, please start working through the iso testing 😃
 Oooh, is now the time to download? :D
[08:53] <lotus-beta> first impression looks good on -desktop
[08:56] <lotus-beta> im still having bug #1867613 on my laptop
[08:57] <lotus-beta> icons drag work when the dock is left and right but on bottom they bug
 @wimpress when will 20.04 MATE test/beta ISO become available?
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity ppc64el [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
 The candidate is on cdimage now AFAIK
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds/210064/downloads
 ^ Latest Mate
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server ppc64el [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64+raspi [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server armhf+raspi [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
 So, it looks like UBuntu BUdgie could use a hand working through some iso smoke testing.
 Most others are either in progress or marked ready.
 Yes, candidate images for all flavours are available on cdimage (re @MrkiMike: @wimpress when will 20.04 MATE test/beta ISO become available?)
 Ooo, wunderbar! Thnx! :) is the race condition with the network manager icon fixed? (/me hides and runs at the same time :D )
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> RikMills @wimpress @Jibel tested -desktop beta seems to be working like a charm
[10:22] <RikMills> :)
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> integrity test 100% bypassed that bug
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> remove your media at shutdown, also fixed
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> trying on another machine now to see if i can reproduce my dock icons bug
[10:29] <jibel> lotuspsychje, Good news, thanks for testing :)
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> my pleasure
 Ubuntu Budgie would need some love http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds/210057/testcases
 can those be done inside KVM, or a proper hardware is needed? (re @Jibel: Ubuntu Budgie would need some love http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds/210057/testcases)
 VM is fine
 I'm testing on hardware at the moment
[10:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
 afternoon everyone. seems like a productive 12 hours since i logged off :D
 welcome @ForEverAlsius @xiaodongliu @TheDimax
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> hey @philipz
 hey lotuspsychje
 synced (re @ItzSwirlz: You bet I do! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/1869585)
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base armhf [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base arm64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base ppc64el [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
 congrats @ItzSwirlz and @KaiLoveLinux for getting things done in your remixes
[10:47]  * guiverc2 just noticed lubuntu is one team to not have marked ready :(
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: you know if that partitioning bug got solved?
[10:55] <guiverc> sorry lotuspsychje, I'm not aware of anything new, or any progress
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> we might have to check that on ready
[10:57] <guiverc> my focus has been on testing (our checklist is still on our phab), wallpapers & other stuff.,,
 @guiverc did lubuntu finalize its wallpaper?
[11:00] <guiverc> yep, and we have it (default) too :)   7 will be included on ISO, 6 hi-res images received, still waiting on 1
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base s390x [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
 Hello friends - I have been busy getting deep into TestDrive. I've tried to contact Dustin Kirkland and have resorted to Twitter to try to make contact, in the hope to get my changes merged.
 He may want to hand it over to someone else.
 However @philipz also mentioned the idea of a fork, so I have done that and forked testdrive 3.28 to distdrive 4.0.0 So I can continue in either direction
 cooi
 I've got DistDrive ported over at https://launchpad.net/distdrive and am ready to push the latest changes
 I'll start on trying to create the PPA's for it this afternoon.
 I know I've been really quite, so just wanted to let you guys know that I am working on something, I was hoping I'd have it quicker than this.
 quite = quietdoh!
 nice work @Sick_Rimmit
 so no way to fork it and retain the old name?
 or is distdrive just the package name
 Not and keep it on lauchpad
 It's the same code really, just that distdrive gets its own namespace on lp, so I can get it up and running.
 well in hope that this doesnt happen in the future, maybe have someone from the ubuntu team also with the necessary privileges to also be able to accept changes
 If Dustin Comes back to me, and adds me to the TestDrive team than I can take it form there, which is also cool
 Is the applidogion that good? It looks super old and crusty
 quickemu is way nicer :D
 https://github.com/wimpysworld/quickemu
 Well I had seen seen QuickEmu

 Something GUI based for the regular joe is always best from a UX perspective
 Actually there's value in both. Just looking at Quickemu, I might well be able to use that as a Virtualisation method in DistDrive / TestDrive. That would be neat 😃
 +1
[11:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[11:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[11:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot arm64 [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[11:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot ppc64el [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[11:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot armhf [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[11:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot s390x [Focal Beta] has been marked as ready
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> ok guys, ive tested a second machine with beta -desktop and can confirm the icons on the dock at bottom acting weird, cant drag them properly
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> tested 2 different machines one with intel 620HD and the other an nvidia card
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> bug #1867613
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: seems like bug #1851188 has been fixed, not happening on lubuntu beta anymore
[12:38] <guiverc> Yippee  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> duped mine towards this one too
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: some other bugs i should test after install?
[12:43] <guiverc> the only one I can think of you'll find, gpgpg error message.. (someone I think marked it on beta, I rarely look for it as i know it's there)
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 Instead you might want to try the daily builds. Those will get updated (re @K: Thanks for the heads-up, Erich! Much appreciated.)
 Great! Thanks (re @RikMills: I can sync the fix from debian, closing that bug, when launchpad picks up the new debian upload.)
 good boy (re @RikMills: synced)
 :) (re @philipz: congrats @ItzSwirlz and @KaiLoveLinux for getting things done in your remixes)
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> popey: omgubuntu pushed beta article
 If joey had a pop gun, he would jump it. :P
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> hehe
 Yeah I saw they made beta article
 And I’m like
 “it got postponed”
 soooo
 beta ISOs are in place though. really we are just waiting for official email from the release team
 Oof. You’re always welcome to use our iso-builder and change it if you want/need.
 The ubuntu one works fine. It was network issues transferring many many GB of ISO between servers that held up the builds (re @ItzSwirlz: Oof. You’re always welcome to use our iso-builder and change it if you want/need.)
 The ubuntu one works fine. It was network issues transferring many many GB of ISO/livefs between servers that held up the builds (edited) (re @ItzSwirlz: Oof. You’re always welcome to use our iso-builder and change it if you want/need.)
 Email is being typed right now...
 Yeah. It's cool (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <lotuspsychje> popey: omgubuntu pushed beta article)
 Publicity is good
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> so who should i poke for bug #1867613 ?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> tested on 2 different machines
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> if anyone is testing -desktop please test this also, dock at bottom
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2020-April/004948.html
 https://twitter.com/ubuntu_mate/status/1246066415913914368
 https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1246065980536754176
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 ubuntu mate website doesnt load in firefox (re @wimpress: https://twitter.com/ubuntu_mate/status/1246066415913914368)

 Yes it does. I'm looking at now.
 From what I see, you guys have been releasing the release notes at beta, should we do the same or wait until final freeze?
 which version of firefox you using? (re @wimpress: Yes it does. I'm looking at now.)
 i'm using 74.0
 74.0-3
 I used to do separate release notes for alpha, betas and stable. (re @ItzSwirlz: From what I see, you guys have been releasing the release notes at beta, should we do the same or wait until final freeze?)
 Recently, I've stopped doing that. I publish release notes for the beta and reference the same page for final, just removing mention of beta.
 It is easier to maintain that way.
 ✌️ (re @philipz: welcome @ForEverAlsius @xiaodongliu @TheDimax)
 I’ll think about it
 Also I need to think of the maintaining and backports for 20.04 cinnamon-remix
 We will see.
 @wimpress something you may want to retweet or like - https://twitter.com/jpaulostrindade/status/1245871183930609667
 If Focal stuff is already done, then I suggest you all do stuff with Bionic Daily (being highly ignored at the moment)
 What 'stuff'? (re @ItzSwirlz: If Focal stuff is already done, then I suggest you all do stuff with Bionic Daily (being highly ignored at the moment))
 Test cases, products (re @RikMills: What 'stuff'?)
 I see. I have more urgent 'stuff'. Next bionic point release is August, so there is time
 @philipz What hash tag should be used when promoting testing week?
 focal stuff is far from done (re @ItzSwirlz: If Focal stuff is already done, then I suggest you all do stuff with Bionic Daily (being highly ignored at the moment))
 I meant for today’s test cases. (re @popeydc: focal stuff is far from done)
 We have more to do as time goes on
 That is an eternal truth... :P (re @ItzSwirlz: We have more to do as time goes on)
 Okay, let me rephrase this
 Since all the testing and mandatory and run-once, everything has been tested for today’s focal test build, we should play around with bionic’s test build.
 Got it?
 #UbuntuTestingWeek (re @wimpress: @philipz What hash tag should be used when promoting testing week?)
 I completely understood what you said first time. I just disagree :)
 We shouldn't change our "focus" from focal IMO.
  (re @popeydc: I completely understood what you said first time. I just disagree :))
 Just a plushie I have at home :P

 NO
 +1 (re @popeydc: We shouldn't change our "focus" from focal IMO.)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCcbe-HwuU4
 Focal is still important
 :D
 I didn’t say focal wasn’t important
 Ok let me do this since you guys are well
 Can’t put this in your brains
 @popeydc can you tweet that video so we can re-tweet it?
 Look at focal testcases here
 https://twitter.com/popey/status/1246098291860951040

 See how all of them have already been completed?
  (re @popeydc: https://twitter.com/popey/status/1246098291860951040)

 Thanks, I just retweeted it.

 However, we are focusing so much on focal
 that for an enduser like me
 Again, I understand the point you're making. I disagree. Just because they're done once, doesn't mean there is no value in more people doing them. (re @ItzSwirlz: See how all of them have already been completed?)
 there is nothing left to do
 There is!
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> joey found the beta flavours :p
 butttt we are missing focal
 do them again, on different hardware
 nevermind
 bruh (re @popeydc: do them again, on different hardware)
 ._.
 Please stop. This is a channel focused on focal.
 Yeah, for real
 We still have stuff in launchpad
 wanted to retweet you @popeydc but you forgot the hashtag :(
 Yeah, sorry.
 @ItzSwirlz We do this for every beta, it is just QA to make sure there are no howlers in the image. The testing week in this case is to trey to dogch the bugs that don't get caught by that. The MAIN testing phase of the beta is now to final freeze (and after).
 @ItzSwirlz We do this for every beta (QA images), it is just QA to make sure there are no howlers in the image. The testing week in this case is to try to dogch the bugs that don't get caught by that. The MAIN testing phase of the beta is now to final freeze (and after). (edited)
 Focal is NOT done
 Question about USB device compatibility: has the issue of not being able to read/write to a USB-connected Android phone been solved in this release? Or was it solved previously? In 18.04 I can see the folders and files, but I cannot copy files.
 retweet with comment :D (re @popeydc: Yeah, sorry.)
 https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1246101889969774592
 As dumb as this sounds, can I do this by literally clicking every UI/app button I can find? (re @RikMills: @ItzSwirlz We do this for every beta (QA images), it is just QA to make sure there are no howlers in the image. The testing week in this case is to try to dogch the bugs that don't get caught by that. The MAIN testing phase of the beta is now to final freeze (and after).)
 https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/1246102097487110150?s=19
 yep there is a testcase like that, its called 'live session' (re @ItzSwirlz: As dumb as this sounds, can I do this by literally clicking every UI/app button I can find?)
 Is there a reason the Focal Beta page is showing"Focal Beta (archived) "?
 If you liked, but most people use a system as normal, trey the default things, try some new things. etc (re @ItzSwirlz: As dumb as this sounds, can I do this by literally clicking every UI/app button I can find?)
 @ItzSwirlz http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds/210056/testcases/1303/results
 I know what it is, don't worry :)
 But honestly, I should go back to schoolwork and focus in my own area of Cinnamon. Sorry for bothering all of you.
 Do we have a Reddit sub like r/ubuntutesting or something?
 there is an old r/ubuntutest from 7y ago but i cant say anything about that. would be a great idea for Yousef to make one. (re @Zachariah: Do we have a Reddit sub like r/ubuntutesting or something?)
 I'd just use the r/ubuntu one
 plenty of people there
 Not a bad idea. Great way to promote #UbuntuTestingWeek
 Had some issues with my network while downloading some of the ISOs, but I've currently gone through a test case for Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Gonna keep playing around and write the ISOs for Ubuntu Budgie and Ubuntu MATE next. Thanks all for the hard work ❤️
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> is that integrity check on boot a new feature, or only enabled for daily testings?
 it's a default now
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx popey
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> @jibel supporting your wish bug #1870337
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1870337
 I saw on one of the ISOs it says "press ctrl+c to cancel check" but some of the others had no such text
 it's all a bit inconsistent
 One even had two percentage bars
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> test took about 10min on a spinner
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> new users wont realize they need to skip test with F1 textboot neither
 Got this on Ubuntu MATE. Didn’t skip it as I usually see integrity checks when I don’t power off correctly 😅🙈 (re @popeydc: I saw on one of the ISOs it says "press ctrl+c to cancel check" but some of the others had no such text)
 you can press 's' to stop the check
 Not that I would ever hard reset a machine™️
 Ooh nice
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> @philipz it changed to ctrl c now as popey said
 oh really
 Yeah
 It did
 quite a pain when i'm using the same iso over and over again :D
 I was testing UC beta iso and in Esc system console it said Ctrl C to skip
 Imo the automatic disk check is a good idwa
 Imo the automatic disk check is a good idea (edited)
 I have started upgrading 19.10 -> 20.04 desktop. Fingers crossed 😊
 🤞
 welcome @rajkumaar23
 Hello there! Looking forward to testing the Focal Fossa ^_^
 download done - 1m 57s, enjoying my new fiber
 glad to have you @rajkumaar23
 @rajkumaar23 which flavor you looking to test?
 @popeydc was it you who retweeted with comment from the ubuntu account, as whomever did, didnt use the correct hashtag :(
 the vanilla one (re @philipz: @rajkumaar23 which flavor you looking to test?)
 that was @wimpress
 @rajkumaar23 have you seen the testing instruction on ubuntu discourse?
 i'm yet to. i have ~2MBps :( (re @philipz: @rajkumaar23 have you seen the testing instruction on ubuntu discourse?)
 Smarty guys out there: For Ubuntu Cinnamon Bug Tracking, my friend suggested a Google Sheets, but I decided that'd be problematic. I am trying to find like, a good free place where I can have bug tracking. What do you guys thing of Bugzilla?
 GitLab might work
 the only thing with gitlab is that I feel like it's basically github but I can do some digging
 github
 From my experience there are a lot of similarities, but it’s self-hosted and open and not reliant on Microsoft, if that matters to you. I do like both though ☺️
 larger community on github and so is the main cinammon repo
 the thing with github is well
 its not the best
 Look at phab.lubuntu.me and launchpad and debian's system-I find it a little more organized and more accessible to find bugs
 I've become a fan of Fedora's pagure.io
 Whaaat, this is cool! (re @Eickmeyer: I've become a fan of Fedora's pagure.io)
 Hosted for you, or self hosted? I also like to consider where my users would look first. Which platform will your users be comfortable. I also tend to shy away from a self hosted as I have other things to focus on. Depends what your priorities/requirements are. Because of this consideration, I tend to look at it like:
 1) GitHub - critical mass, most technical users look there (or already have accounts there). Prefer to attempt to make contributor friction a minimal thing. Allows you to use the internal cross repo tools. Plus 3rd party tools and integration's. Plus I do not need to run it.
 2) Gitlab hosted - I still prefer to not run it (time). has good market share, etc. Great piple line tools.
 3) Gitlab Self Hosted (If I need to run my own)
 4) Other tools such as Phabridogor, etc. Comes down to preferences.
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 I'm just spit balling as I do not know what your specific priorities are. The size or expertise of your team (securely and safely hosting your own infrastructure). (re @ItzSwirlz: Smarty guys out there: For Ubuntu Cinnamon Bug Tracking, my friend suggested a Google Sheets, but I decided that'd be problematic. I am trying to find like, a good free place where I can have bug trac
 github may not be the best, but definitely you'd find easy contibutions from it
 Issue with system info has been fixed
 \o/
 Basically GitLab. I think we'll pretty much stay with GitLab (re @Eickmeyer: I've become a fan of Fedora's pagure.io)
 But the issue is, what about Bug Reporting?
 Not the best on GitLab
 Whats debians system?
 And I don't think I can host Phabridogor
 pagure is developed by Fedora developers, it's not GitLab. (re @ItzSwirlz: Basically GitLab. I think we'll pretty much stay with GitLab)
 Hm.
 It looks similar to it though
 We are working on a fix for that. (re @popeydc: I saw on one of the ISOs it says "press ctrl+c to cancel check" but some of the others had no such text)
 As in, Desktop and Foundations team are actively assist flavours with this issue.
 I used the hash tag you posted here lastnight. (re @philipz: @popeydc was it you who retweeted with comment from the ubuntu account, as whomever did, didnt use the correct hashtag :()
 you forgot the 'ing' (re @philipz: #UbuntuTestingWeek)
 ?
 so all i’ve to do is follow the test instructions and submit the result in that page? (re @philipz: @rajkumaar23 have you seen the testing instruction on ubuntu discourse?)
  (re @wimpress: ?)supposed to be 'Testing' but you have 'Test':
 @philipz please help? (re @rajkumaar23: so all i’ve to do is follow the test instructions and submit the result in that page?)
 Hi @rajkumaar23 Take a look here -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam?action=show&redirect=Testing
 hth
 sure. thanks (re @Sick_Rimmit: Hi @rajkumaar23 Take a look here -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam?action=show&redirect=Testing)
 Bother 😞 (re @philipz: )
 could always delete it and create again in a few hours
 yes (re @rajkumaar23: @philipz please help?)
 its fine (re @popeydc: could always delete it and create again in a few hours)
 Yeah, let's do that. (re @popeydc: could always delete it and create again in a few hours)
 put out one tomorrow with something different
 yeah
 Also a good idea 😊
 i have a tweet or two per day with the hashtag
 the most recent -  in harmony 🎶 Then visit the Ubuntu Discourse to get involved in the community testing week 🔨 discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-20-04… #UbuntuTestWeek
 https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1245984383414255617
 I've been handling posting to Reddit, so we don't duplidoge posts.
 might be even more powerful coming from the ubuntu account
 Do you have the Reddit credentials for u/ubuntu?
 anyone can post there, you don't need moderation
 think you need admin for pinning
 oh, ok
 ping cm-t
 The admin of r/ubuntu is u/aperson.
 nhaines on telegram can too
 any of these:
 But hey, at least a post about Beta Testing is on the Reddit page!
 I was also going to do Instagram. Is there a way for me to get the video to put in there or should I just convert the GIF to a .mp4?
 is possible to join testing images on next Monday?
 Hello everyone, done with schoolwork :)
 How is it going for you guys? Anyone else need help testing and searching for bugs
 How is it going for you guys? Anyone else need help testing and searching for bugs? (edited)
 Gif are no longer supported on IG (re @Zachariah: I was also going to do Instagram. Is there a way for me to get the video to put in there or should I just convert the GIF to a .mp4?)
 Right. I meant can I get the YouTube video or should I just link to it and convert the .GIF to a .MP4? I suppose I could also use a downloader to get the YT video, but I don't want to violate any copyright.
[17:09] <wxl> everyone go spam the comments at https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/04/ubuntu-20-04-flavours-whats-new as well as their inbox, twitter, mastodon, facebook, instagram, etc. and tell them they failed to include lubuntu (and no screenshot for ubuntu studio either)
 Don't spam. That's rude.
 I would suggest messaging the devs and they can edit
[17:10] <wxl> um
[17:10] <bashfulrobot> bluesabre: I love that tweet about the derivatives and testing week.
[17:10] <wxl> do you know what i'm referring to?
 And it may have been trying to show some of them
[17:11] <bashfulrobot> I think by spam, he means leave a comment askign why it was not included and that it should be.
[17:11] <bashfulrobot> Some? He shows all "but".
 @ItzSwirlz Joe has a very consistent habit of 1) Not including an Ubuntu Studio screenshot, and 2) leaving Lubuntu out entirely.
 That's great ._.
 There's a pattern.
 (sigh)
[17:12] <bashfulrobot> I think in this case all we need to do is sub out "spam" for "politely leave a comment". :-)
[17:13] <wxl> or maybe just "leave a comment"
[17:13] <wxl> :/
[17:14] <bashfulrobot> tomato / tomahto
[17:14] <bashfulrobot> ha ha
 spam = rude
 testing is a week long so it will still be happening on monday (re @Reinaldo_Espinosa: is possible to join testing images on next Monday?)
 @popeydc can you msg joe (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <wxl> everyone go spam the comments at https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/04/ubuntu-20-04-flavours-whats-new as well as their inbox, twitter, mastodon, facebook, instagram, etc. and tell them they failed to include lubuntu (and no screenshot for ubuntu studio either))
 🙏 (re @philipz: testing is a week long so it will still be happening on monday)
[17:16] <wxl> omg! ubuntu = rude
 How about a kanban for Ubuntu Cinnamon
 I dont want to do trello since people have different opinions and it just doesn't seem right-but I like kanbanflow.com.
 Fantastic - my 19.10 std Ubuntu is now a 20.04 dev branch 😊
 GitHub has this OOB with your issues. (re @ItzSwirlz: How about a kanban for Ubuntu Cinnamon)
 (called boards)
 sweet. hope you can submit a report - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds/209752/testcases/1310/results (re @MrPer4280: Fantastic - my 19.10 std Ubuntu is now a 20.04 dev branch 😊)
 shouldnt all the i386 upgrade testcases be removed?
 like this one - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds/209751/testcases
 I'm not sure. I don't know if I'm correct but I believe some other flavors might still support i385
 I'm not sure. I don't know if I'm correct but I believe some other flavors might still support i386 (edited)
 And Bionic is still i386.
 no flavors support i386
 In 20.04, correct. (re @philipz: no flavors support i386)
 yep thats what we are testing
 I think perhaps I won't be messaging a blogger about their content on their website @philipz - if people have a beef with the content of other people's websites, I suggest that they deal with it themselves. Not try and mobilise a brigade.
 only assumed he forgot @popeydc
 Long standing fued, I am pretty sure @wxl is well aware of.
 Long standing feud, I am pretty sure @wxl is well aware of. (edited)
 so any means to hide the i386 upgrades from the focal testcase page
 I don't know.
 but if they try, it will fail with an error anyway.
 Yeah. Friend tried installing UC live on an old laptop and kernel froze.
 Also: do you think this board will be okay for bug-tracking for UC? https://kanbanflow.com/board/22cWCT
 Also (please share your honest opinions): do you think this board will be okay for bug-tracking for UC? https://kanbanflow.com/board/22cWCT (edited)
 Use whatever you fel comfortable with
 ❤️ (re @popeydc: Use whatever you fel comfortable with)
 I'd not heard of that one
 @ItzSwirlz maybe share a screenshot as all i see is a login screen :D
 It's Kanban essentially
 Of course. :P (re @philipz: @ItzSwirlz maybe share a screenshot as all i see is a login screen :D)
 I know a lot of people use trello.

 Looks very similar.
 I wanted something for bug reporting but it would just not fit and I couldn't find a good one that'd fit with something like Phabridogor
 There's also a self-hosted one in the snap store.
 yep trello came to mind when i saw it
 Bugzilla and other stuff seemed too hard to configure, so I thought I'd take it easy
 Package name? (re @popeydc: There's also a self-hosted one in the snap store.)
 oh god, avoid bugzilla :)
 wekan
 Your wish is my command. Installing!
 desktop file doesn't seem to exist
 Actually it probably does
 it's not a desktop app, it's a webapp
 yeah i saw.
 I'm trying to build with npm and node
 need node 12
 snap install wekan
 Yeah I did
 Always-its just that i played with a menu tool
 Always-its just that i played with a menu tool earlier in 19.10 (edited)
 It intentionally screws up the path and was buggy. and snap support wasn't implemented.
 So I'm sort of stuck with snaps not showing up
 maybe we should take this topic elsewhere
 Pressing Launch after installing software using Discover is not working. Neither Chrome nor VS Code would launch using the button.
 Ubuntu Lumina doesn't boot, other than that I think it works
 What is Ubuntu Lumina?
 my flavor
 ubuntu with the lumina desktop used in TrueOS
 Oh! I had not heard of Lumia or TrueOS
 TrueOS was a BSD distribution, after that fell through Lumina became seperate software kept up by its own team
 trueos is the new name for pc-bsd
 oh!
 @KaiLoveLinux what iso builder are you using?
 @ItzSwirlz Was using Linux-Live, gonna try Cubic as the Regolith people recommended that
 Ahahahaha
 Yes oh yes
 When I first said I was going to release an ISO
 I used an online easy builder like that
 It didn't boot.
 Hence, same footstep I was into.
 Thought it would work, built up unneccesary hype, but didn't.
 online builder? its a CLI based tool
 Use our ISO builder :)
 Online as in, you can get it Online. It's one of those automatic things. (re @KaiLoveLinux: online builder? its a CLI based tool)
 Ah okay
 Not really the best for knowing your situation
 Welcome
 So,
 and here is where you need our iso-builder
 hi
 welcome @B_Thomas
 and I hope you got a PPA for Ubuntu Lumina on Launchpad online
 Because if your building an ISO you need that.
 Where do I report bugs? Launchpad Beta Testers says "No open bugs" and I can't submit a bug.
 Go in terminal, and ubuntu-bug (package with bug) (re @Zachariah: Where do I report bugs? Launchpad Beta Testers says "No open bugs" and I can't submit a bug.)
 Go in terminal, and "ubuntu-bug (package with bug)" (edited) (re @Zachariah: Where do I report bugs? Launchpad Beta Testers says "No open bugs" and I can't submit a bug.)
 which app you want to file a bug against? (re @Zachariah: Where do I report bugs? Launchpad Beta Testers says "No open bugs" and I can't submit a bug.)
 Discover
 @ItzSwirlz The only issue is that building the ISO properly has been difficult
 I mean deb package
 wdym by properly? what do you expect it to do? (re @KaiLoveLinux: @ItzSwirlz The only issue is that building the ISO properly has been difficult)
 ah building the deb
 DM me
 Lets move it and i'll do it with you
 Launchpad gives me a Timeout Error when I try to search for Discover in Bugs.
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/discover
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> LP has some timeouts lately, refresh
 yes you two should collaborate as you both are creating remixes (re @ItzSwirlz: Lets move it and i'll do it with you)
 Got it. I can report this now. Thanks.
 Bug #1870593
 installing apps in the live session never really has good results
 I'm fully installed on a 256GB nVME.
 Thanks to a fast USB 3.0 drive and nVME SSD, I can do a full installation in less than 10 minutes.
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> @Zachariah: try to use ubuntu-bug packagename to file bugs on ubuntu, so more info gets pulled into the bug, devs can debug better
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> @Zachariah: you can still apport-collect 1870593 if you like
 Oh, I was doing it on the web. Should I do it from the command line? I have several more bugs to report.
 someone commented on OMG that testing in virutalbox doesnt work as there is a xorg bug

 @Eickmeyer can you suggest that person to file a bug report
 Yeah, perhaps they should report that on the testing tracker, not someone's blog.
 You read my mind.
 :D
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> @Zachariah: yes please from terminal, your bug info will be pulled into launchpad
 Ok, I connected my computer to Launchpad.
 It's saying package "discover" not installed. Then what is Discover's package name?
 Because it says org.kde.discover in the App Settings.
 Do I need to use that instead of just "discover"?
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> !info discover
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> is it this?
 Oof... my reply to that person is stuck in moderation queue. It'll probably never get approved and they'll probably never see it.
 Zachariah check this video from popey (re @philipz: for all those new to bug reporting, you can check out popey's video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTyzyY9RHw)
 Yes, it says that when I hover on the link "discover (Ubuntu)".
 Well then. I couldn't choose what I wanted to test.:
 So I made this spinner :P
 Filled with all flavors, classic Ubuntu and Cinnamon Remix and once Lumina is ready I'll add it
 Let me know if you want the link
 Anyone experiencing slow download speed for focal isos? Lubuntu daily ISO says it will take 39 mins left for 1.6 GB-typically will take around 10 or 5.
 No
 at least not direct focal
 Okay nevermind, its doing better. Back to 3 mins.
 popey did a similar randomizer in his videos
 maybe just do it alphabetically :D
 /me sad as xubuntu will always be at the end
 Yuo see
 You see (edited)
 You se (edited)
 You see (edited)
 Randomizers over alphabetical order
 Alphebetical order gets boring overtime
 why not share it on the group. i'd leave lumina out as their ISO isnt ready
 Would prob be something you might want to add to the pinned message, and people have their own flavors they like to test. (re @philipz: why not share it on the group. i'd leave lumina out as their ISO isnt ready)
 Welp, mine completely locked up except I can still move the cusor.
 Will there be a crash report somewhere that I can submit? I ended up resetting the computer and everything is fine now.
 If it says that there was an internal error then yeah (re @Zachariah: Will there be a crash report somewhere that I can submit? I ended up resetting the computer and everything is fine now.)
 Should show
 It never said anything. I just used the Reset button on the computer. When you do this in Windows it will create a crash report.
 Idk.
 It should and if not Ubuntu-bug in terminal
 Need a little help -
 upgraded to 20.04 - no issues
 switched to nvidia  -440 from nvidia-335,  apparently without any problem
 tried screen scaling to 150%  ==> blank screen, then monitor goes in powersave mode
 rebooted - same issue
 messing around on cli, reinstalled  nvidia-335
 set  org.gnome.mutter experimental-features ['']
 any hint on resetting scaling ?
 idk
 fixed it: edited .config/monitors.xml
 Good
 so - forward to nvidia-440 😊
 guess you can file a bug against the nvidia driver package
 I'll mess around to see if it is the scaling thing or the nvidia driver. Will file a bug if I can narrow it down
 @wimpress in case you didnt see this, if you could tweet something tomorrow around this same idea, that would be great, or you can pull an idea from the many #UbuntuTestingWeek tagged tweets from xubuntu for ideas (re @philipz: https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1245984383414255617)
 Ok - setting scaling 125% I was able to select "dont keep settings" and return, setting scaling 150% immediately sends the monitor in sleep mode
 no driver change
 so this happens with the nvidia 335 as well
 yes it does
 does it happen with other nvidia drivers, like the open source one
 excellent question - will try to use the nouveau one
 all are welcome to retweet for lubuntu https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1246169816874057729
 night all
 Nouveau dropped me to 640x480 😊
 Will test more tomorrow, I am tired now

 Uh... I mean.. WELCOME!
 Spanglish 🤣🤣🤣🤣:

 When I change panel size, the start menu size doesn’t change. File this bug under lxqt-panel?
 (Lubuntu)
 19 days left, keep up the great work guys :)

 That is the correct package, yes. (re @ItzSwirlz: When I change panel size, the start menu size doesn’t change. File this bug under lxqt-panel?)
 Great
 Will report on phab and launchpad
 Thanks.
 and I come back from dinner and see this. Looked weird at first

 flurry screensave
 *screensaver
 Is the best screensaver (re @kc2bez: flurry screensave)
 It’s pretty cool
 It is decent looking compared to some that are available.
 Translation clearly isn't done yet. 🤦‍♂️ (re @ForEverAlsius: )
 🤣🤣 yep (re @Eickmeyer: Translation clearly isn't done yet. 🤦‍♂️)
 If you wouldn't mind, feel free to do some translating on that: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntustudio/es/+translate (re @ForEverAlsius: 🤣🤣 yep)
 FWIW it looks like the menu size is tied to the font size. You can set a custom font size to make it bigger (or smaller) by right clicking on the menu icon. (re @ItzSwirlz: When I change panel size, the start menu size doesn’t change. File this bug under lxqt-panel?)
 I’ll look at it (re @kc2bez: FWIW it looks like the menu size is tied to the font size. You can set a custom font size to make it bigger (or smaller) by right clicking on the menu icon.)
 I also noticed the font size stayed the same
 Deepl.com and if you need any help I can see if my Span teacher has some time (re @Eickmeyer: If you wouldn't mind, feel free to do some translating on that: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntustudio/es/+translate)
 But what you suggest does make some sense. If you make the panel bigger you would think the menu would follow.
 Yeah, everything should follow up
 Icons did and it looks like the notifidogion applet didn’t either

 @ItzSwirlz Good to know. I'd feel more comfortable if a native speaker did the translations than a website because the message needs to get across more than a direct translation.
 Yeah, seems strange.
  (re @Eickmeyer: If you wouldn't mind, feel free to do some translating on that: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntustudio/es/+translate)they just did it:
 @ForEverAlsius \o/
 My English is very bad (re @Eickmeyer: If you wouldn't mind, feel free to do some translating on that: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntustudio/es/+translate)
 @ForEverAlsius Actually, it looks like the changes I made last release were never translated. Your English isn't that bad, and really, it needs to be translated to Spanish anyhow.
 Pero alguien ya lo hizo
 But someone already did it
 bugs.launchpad.net/Ubuntu/+source/lxqt-panel/+but/1870639
 Oops lmao
 Look at the date on that, @ForEverAlsius . It's from March 22, 2012.
 One typo, g to t makes it seem bad
 bugs.launchpad.net/Ubuntu/+source/lxqt-panel/+bug/1870639 (edited)
 Exactly, I think that just because it was beta it was not implemented (re @Eickmeyer: Look at the date on that, @ForEverAlsius . It's from March 22, 2012.)
 No, I made a change before last release back in October that added "...of all kinds" to the end, which broke the translation string. (re @ForEverAlsius: Exactly, I think that just because it was beta it was not implemented)
 (I'm the Ubuntu Studio lead)
 🤩🤩🤩👏👏👏👏 It's great (re @Eickmeyer: (I'm the Ubuntu Studio lead))
 We argued that the theme it has is more fluid than that of Xubuntu
 Forwarded from KajiiNarumiChat:
 👍
 Wow
 Forwarded from KajiiNarumiChat:
 @kc2bez It says I should just subscribe Lubuntu packaging team but I can’t find anywhere that shows to submit a report. Would you like me to still create it as a new task?
 Thanks. I changed it to that theme about a year ago as we needed something with a dark variant. It was looking quite old with its previous theme.
 Thanks, My eyes thank you very much (re @Eickmeyer: Thanks. I changed it to that theme about a year ago as we needed something with a dark variant. It was looking quite old with its previous theme.)
 It should add them already (which it did). You can verify on the list to the right. (re @ItzSwirlz: @kc2bez It says I should just subscribe Lubuntu packaging team but I can’t find anywhere that shows to submit a report. Would you like me to still create it as a new task?)

 It isn't necessary to create a task on phab. (re @ItzSwirlz: @kc2bez It says I should just subscribe Lubuntu packaging team but I can’t find anywhere that shows to submit a report. Would you like me to still create it as a new task?)
 If it works for you, then that’s fine (re @kc2bez: It isn't necessary to create a task on phab.)
 Anything else you’d like me to do, or keep searching for bugs?
 Nope that is cool. Keep bug hunting! 😄
 Where?
 I join the hunt for mistakes
 Hey, the Reddit thing is getting some decent traction. Looks like we should have a few more testers soon.
 It doesn't look like your panel icons are scaling with the panel height. Your start button is, but not the others.
 @kc2bez What is the purpose of the invert selection button
 That’s fine (re @Zachariah: It doesn't look like your panel icons are scaling with the panel height. Your start button is, but not the others.)
 Suppose you want to select all but one folder (like node_modules). You click it, then Invert Selection and voila! (re @ItzSwirlz: @kc2bez What is the purpose of the invert selection button)
 That ^
 it doesn’t seem to do anything
 Oh nvm