[00:00] <user|74267> Can I open an account here to enter with just one nickname?
[00:00] <genii> !register
[00:01] <genii> user|74267: See the bot''s info above
[00:16] <user|74267> bot''s info above?
 hey guys trying to setup meta+enter(to launch konsole) which used to work before i reloaded the OS. It will not save as a shortcut key for some reason.
 I have even tried launching from edit application settings with Meta+Enter and nothing is taking the settings.
 Barika, I think you discovered a bug.  I am not able to assign meta+enter to launch krunner either.
 Hmmmm I used to work on Arch Linux
 It worked up to yesterday with the latest and greatest installed on Arch Linux.
 Just not in Kubuntu that I switched to now.
 Titlebar action to double click to Maximize is also not working.
[03:24] <tugapower> Its KDE Connect working to navigate the files phone ? For me its not working
 Looks like a reboot fixed the titlebar issue. But not the konsole issue being lauched via Meta+Enter
 I had to create a custom keyboard shortcut to get konsole to launch with Meta+Enter but got it resolved.
[08:48] <virtuald> probably spam
[09:13] <Dakeiz> Hello everyone. I installed Kubuntu yesterday on my desktop PC. I'm trying to make KDE Connect work but the devices don't seem to detect each others. I've already made a successful setup with my laptop, but it's a different story with my desktop. I'd be glad to give you any information you might need. Thank you and have a nice weekend :)
[09:21] <Dakeiz> Sorry I got disconnected and it was a hassle to reconnect. If someone wrote me a response, could you send it again?
[09:26] <virtuald> no one responded
[09:27] <franzpow_> I was wondering.. What happens if I change my Amd radeon with another nvidia gpu that I have? Will kubuntu detect automatically the new gpu?
[09:27] <virtuald> does kde connect give you any error message?
[09:27] <virtuald> Dakeiz: ^
[09:28] <Dakeiz> virtuald, no I have no error message. The devices just don't show in the list.
[09:28] <Dakeiz> My desktop is connected via ethernet, and phone via WiFi.
[09:29] <virtuald> can you ping your phone from the pc?
[09:30] <Dakeiz> virtuald, Yup, without any problem. Ping is a tad bit high, but everything was received.
[09:33] <Dakeiz> I have tried many things. Including checking the status of ufw (which is disabled), adding exceptions to iptables but nothing has solved the issue. Should I have reboot my PC after adding the exceptions to iptables?
[09:34] <virtuald> probably not but how did you add them?
[09:35] <Dakeiz> In Konsole: sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 1714:1764 -j ACCEPT
[09:35] <Dakeiz> And a second one by replacing "tcp" by "udp".
[09:37] <franzpow> Hi. I was wondering.. If I change my radeon gpu with another card (Nvidia) that I have in this pc, will kubuntu set it properly automatically?
[09:38] <franzpow> I mean removing this amd radeon gpu and installing the nvidia one. Will I need to reinstall drivers?
[09:38] <virtuald> i don't know how kde connect works but what i would do is to run tcpdump or wireshark to see what happens when trying to connect
[09:42] <virtuald> franzpow: it will work and you'll probably be prompted to install better drivers
[09:42] <virtuald> (don't shoot me if it doesn't)
[09:43] <virtuald> Dakeiz: on https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect it says "The daemon communicates with various UI components (Plasmoid, CLI, Indicator etc.) over DBus. QDbusViewer allows inspecting the DBus interface provided by the daemon which can be incredibly useful for debugging.
[09:43] <virtuald> " have you tried that?
[09:47] <Dakeiz> Hold on, just have to reboot real quick.
[09:51] <Dakeiz> How exactly do I run QDbusViewer, virtuald?
[09:53] <virtuald> i installed the qttools5-dev-tools package and ran /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbusviewer
[09:54] <virtuald> i have no idea how to get anything useful out of the things it shows
[09:56] <Dakeiz> I think it's mostly a tool used by developers.
[09:56] <virtuald> yes
[09:59] <Dakeiz> I'm not sure how I should go about solving this problem...
[10:00] <Dakeiz> I guess it would make things easier if I could speak with a KDE Connect contributor directly.
[10:01] <virtuald> yes i've been trying to get a hold of someone too but haven't found any yet
[10:02] <virtuald> they have a telegram group or something apparently (just found out)
[10:09] <Dakeiz> By the way, I've noticed that on many distros, the access rights are very unrestrictive. Would you recommend setting them to 770 or 750 instead of 755?
[10:09] <RikMills> Dakeiz: #kdeconnect
[10:10] <Dakeiz> Ah thank you Rikmills, I'll try over there!
[10:11] <RikMills> that IRC channel should be bridged to telegram as well
 Hi I downloaded and installed the beta to help with testing. Can anybody help with advice on how to update as new versions come out? The guidance in the kubuntu.org news is a bit confusing asI haven't done this before. loving it so far
[10:30] <N1k0nP> IrcsomeBot, you mean stable release?
 The beta release of Kubuntu 20.04
[10:35] <N1k0nP> IrcsomeBot, i think it just "apt update && apt full-upgrade" then uncheck pre-release updates in "software sources" is you want stay on stable
 OK ta. Didn't understand the guidance on zsync
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:00] <andreaskostallan> Hello
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hi andreaskostallan
[15:01] <alireza> hi
 Hey
 Hi. Does anyone know why desktop effects suddenly stopped working in 19.10? thx
 Still here Nick?
[17:02] <WausauBill> I downloaded the Kubuntu 20.04 beta and have it on a USB, went to install it on an old Windows 7 machine I have, but the installer is not recognizing there is already an operating system on the disk, anyone else seeing this?
 Does it show an empty hard drive?
[17:09] <WausauBill> It the only guided option it shows is using the entire hard drive, yes
 Strange. I do not have a window system to test, but on the several linux boxes where I tested the install, it correctly detected all partitions and proposed several install options.
 Oh wait.... You may to boot to windows and do a complete shutdown.... forget what it's called.... googling...
 @DarinMiller, disabling fast startup, it locks the ntfs drives from R/W
 Ah yes... this link seems to cover the start up/shut down for win10... not sure if it applies to win7: https://superuser.com/questions/1152001/shutdown-windows-10-truly-for-a-dual-booting-system
[17:16] <WausauBill> I'll take a look at that in the boot manager and see what I find, I did reboot from a complete power down, but windows has been known not to play nice with other system installs
[17:21] <niki12> всем привет
[17:21] <niki12> у меня проблема с  новой кубунту
[17:21] <niki12> кому писать ??
[17:23] <diogenes_> niki12, туда
[17:23] <diogenes_> !ru
[17:43] <franzpow_> I installed my nvidia card and I felt the desktop too slow. I installed this nvidia card instead of my old radeon. I installed via "sudo apt install" nvidia-driver-435 and rebooted. Now I am stuck on loading screen and I am not able to start kububtu
[17:47] <franzpow_> I get stuck on kubuntu logo and if I press esc I get: [ok] stopped plymouth
[17:47] <franzpow_> I am now rebooting after trying to boot kubuntu on liquorix recovery mode via grub
[17:48] <franzpow_> Because I was not able to enter in the os
 Are you able to use ctrl-alt-f2 to drop to command line?
[17:49] <franzpow_> I am still trying to reboot
 Which nvidia card? I suspect the wrong driver was chosen.
[17:50] <franzpow_> I will let you know
[17:50] <franzpow_> Gt710
[17:50] <franzpow_> Nvidia
[17:51] <franzpow_> At first start it recognised the card well on neofetch and I was even able to see the temperature but it was slow also in gaming
[17:51] <franzpow_> Now I am rebooting and it is stopping the services before rebooting so it is taking a while
 Oh yeah.  I think that's  older and gt710 is not supported by the 435 driver.  I think you need the nvidia-340.... checking on google...
 try ctrl-alt-f2 during the boot process.
[17:52] <franzpow_> Oh sh** I will give me some minutes to reboot, thanks
[17:53] <franzpow_> DarinMiller: sorry I was disconnected
[17:55] <franzpow_> What is the name of the kubuntu support channel on telegram?
 https://t.me/kubuntu_support
 Here I am
 very good
 I am getting disconnected by my Irc app on the phone so It's better here
 were you able to reach a command prompt using ctrl-at-f2 ?
 It's stuck on reboot. It says [OK] Reached target Reboot
 Ok it's rebooting
 Now in a while should appear kubuntu logo
 Ok I am in tty2 terminal
 to speed up hangs on reboot use alt-<print screen>reisub  (hold down the alt key while pressing the other keys).
 sudo apt purge nvidia*
 login first^
 I am logged in. I Am executing the comman
 Should I write nvidia-driver-435?
 you can but nvidia* will include it...
 Ok I am doing it
 It's doing nothing for now
 back at the prompt?
 or stuck purging?
 Nope there is the underscore flashing
 Like it's executing the command
 you typed "sudo apt purge nvidia*" and it stopped at flashing "_"?
[18:04] <mtr> hi everyone
 The "_" is flashing but it's like nothing is happening
 But the pc is not stuck. Maybe the command is
 type ctrl -c
 then reissue: sudo apt purge nvidia*
 Ctrl -c does nothing
 It should stop the command..
 When you ran sudo apt purge nvidia*, what happened after you entered your password?
 Did any text scroll by?
 It didn't asked me for password
 The "_" started flashing and nothing more
 (i am logged in)
 hmmm, do the  alt-<print screen>reisub  to reboot....
 What is reisub?
 http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
 Wow what a cool command!!
 I rebooted
 Now I am in the grub
 What shoukd I do? Trying again with tt2?
 yes
 Ok I am in
 OK try ls -al as a basic command
 I also get a strange line: reg 0x30, usbctrl_vendorreq Timeout! Status:0xffffff92 value 0x44
 After loggin in tty2
 Ls -al is working
 Also neofetch is working
 very good.
 now try: sudo apt purge nvidia*
 Ok now it is going
 👍
 It's working
 After that? Should I install the other driver via tty2?
 Sudo apt surge nvidia* has finjshed
 I recommend booting into the desktop, open sys. setting, and select driver manager.  *buntu distros are fairly good at recommending the correct/best nvdia driver.
 Ok I am rebooting now … How can I open the sys.setting?
 System Settings from the menu, or use krunner to launch alt-f2 then type system settings
 It's now entering kubuntu
 I am in the desktop and waiting the driver manager
 It says gathering info on your system
 it takes a few minutes sometimes especially on older hw.
 Which version of kubuntu?
 19.10
 Still gathering info?
 Yep..
 I don't think it will go further. What should I do?
 If I run ubuntu-drivers devices, it says that the 435 version is recomended..
 But it was not the right driver. What should I install?
 I tried to install nvidia-driver-390 and it gave me an error
 It failed and gave me the same error
 Someone could help?
[19:15] <leaftype> I don't think i can, but I can listen. What was the error?
 Ehm I don't know because I removed the driver
 I was not able to enter in the desktop
 With the 390 driver
[19:17] <leaftype> why are you installing 390 when you said ubuntu-drivers recommended 435?
 Same error as before
 Because 435 driver did not helped
 And I was not able to enter in the desktop
[19:18] <leaftype>  you're on irc on a separate computer I take it?
 I am on my phone right now
[19:19] <leaftype> gotcha. On your computer, you can't log into the desktop? Or do graphics never load?
 I will clarify the situation
[19:20] <leaftype> thanks
 I installed the 435 driver and rebooted. I couldn't access to my desktop anymore. … I ran sudo apt surge nvidia* from tty2 terminal and I was able again to enter in my desktop. … Trying to use driver manager inside kubuntu but it did not work so I tried to install 390 driver (the oldest available) and I was in the same situation of before
 So I sudo apt purge nvidia again and here we are
[19:23] <leaftype> which card do you have?
 Nvidia gt710
[19:25] <leaftype> so the problem with the open source drivers for you (which loaded a desktop ok) is that you want more performance?
 Yes. I have a lagging desktop and poor 3d performance with  open source drivers
[19:25] <leaftype> gotcha
[19:26] <leaftype> and what method were you using to install the closed-source drivers?
 Not so laggy desktop but.. I installed this card instead of my old radeon because it was in another pc and this one is better
 @leaftype, First I tried with terminal
[19:26] <leaftype> with what command?
[19:27] <leaftype> (sorry, this is how I understand things, going pedantic and looking things up)
 But second time I ran software and updates from Ubuntu (I had ubuntu installed here instead of kubuntu) and selected other drivers and installed 390 driver
 I ran sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435 the first time
[19:28] <leaftype> thanks
 I don't know what it should be. The 390 driver should have been installed without problems. Maybe I should retry via terminal..
[19:31] <leaftype> I mean, to me this sounds like ther eis a problem with the driver itself on yoru system.It's worth trying again, but if you didn't change something it "should" do the same thing
[19:32] <leaftype> nvidia itself recommends the 440 branch
[19:32] <leaftype> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/157462/en-us
[19:33] <leaftype> that's their "long-lived" branch, for theoretically more stability
 Mmm but I have just 390- 430-435/
[19:33] <leaftype> 435.21 is their 'short-lived" branch
[19:33] <leaftype> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/150803/en-us
[19:34] <leaftype> you COULD try installing straight from there
[19:34] <leaftype> Weirdly, I don't see limits on version. I would expect something like "for ubuntu 18.04", but it just says "64 bit linux"
 @leaftype, Ok but how to install this? Is a .run file
[19:35] <leaftype> never used a .run file?
 Just open it?
[19:35] <leaftype> after you set permissions on it, you run it via command line
 Maybe sometime? I don't remember
 Should I have to compile it?
[19:35] <leaftype> nope
[19:36] <leaftype> :)
 Oh good
[19:36] <leaftype> You don't technically NEED to run it via command line, but they usually expect it and sometimes have questions/notes of what it's doing
[19:36] <leaftype> Personally I don't like it, but that's what the company itself is pushing
 Ok I am downloading it, almost finished
[19:36] <leaftype> sometimes it works
[19:37] <leaftype> also, a lot of times I've heard of updates to the kernal (or os in general, etc) ruining proprietary drivers.
 oh that's bad
 should it be that I run liquorix
[19:37] <leaftype> If it was open source, their code would update at the same time as the kernal
 instead of linux kernel?
[19:38] <leaftype> I... have never heard of liquorix
[19:38] <leaftype> if it's replacing hte kernal, that could absolutely be it
 that is a realtime kernel
[19:39] <leaftype> drivers work with the kernal to do anything with the hardware
[19:39] <leaftype> so yeah, if you change the kernal, the driver might not get back what it's expecting
 I can't open the .run file
[19:40] <leaftype> did you set permissoins on it to "execute"?
 I drag and drop the .run in the terminao
 terminal
 sudo.. but is says command not found
[19:40] <leaftype> It's a program, so it's always considerd unsafe (by default) to run those
[19:41] <leaftype> right click the program
 ok
 I was stupid
 I've done it
[19:41] <leaftype> alright :)
[19:41] <leaftype> Hope it works. I'm like 10% confident
[19:41] <leaftype> I've had problems with nvidia drivers specifically on my last system
 it says I must deactivate first nvidia nouveau
[19:42] <leaftype> is it donig it for you?
 before proceeding with installation
 nope...
[19:42] <leaftype> that makes sense to me. Nouveau is the open source drivers that were alright working
[19:42] <leaftype> You don't want two drivers trying to work at the same time
 mmmm.. so? I found on internet instructions
 but I am afraid of doing something wrong
[19:43] <leaftype> a good fear to have
 ahaah yes
 I broke this system so many times
[19:43] <leaftype> mmm, fun times
[19:44] <leaftype> It's really useful to have a second hard drive that has all your informatoin on it
 I have dual boot here
[19:44] <leaftype> Got one with backups of steam games, videos, music, etc for my system
[19:44] <leaftype> Duel boot is good, but won't protect you from everything (just a lot of things)
[19:44] <leaftype> like clickign the wrong button
 btw nvidia is saying that for some distributions Nouveau can be disabled by adding a file in the modprobe configuration directory
 andf it can do it for me
[19:45] <leaftype> i recommend writing down what it's doing in case you come back to this, then letting them do their thing
 ok so I just pray nvidia to install my drivers?
[19:46] <leaftype> Their programmers are smarter than I am, so yeah
[19:48] <leaftype> For how to remove Nouveau (if that doesn't work) : https://tutorials.technology/tutorials/85-How-to-remove-Nouveau-kernel-driver-Nvidia-install-error.html
 ok but after I removed that it says I should reboot and try again to reinstall drivers
 @Franzpow, Did you try the nvidia-340 driver?
 would it means that I will not have my desktop and install it via tty2?
 @DarinMiller, I have 390 drivers in the repos
 I have seen the driver install utility mistake older cards and recommend new versions.  sudo apt install nvidia-340
 wait so now I should delete these 2 files
 the modprobe files
 that nvidia created for me
 Sorry, I was away for awhile.... what files?
 @Franzpow, these files
[19:53] <leaftype> DarinMiller: I had him download the driver from Nvidia itself
 oh yes, you can delete those files.
 for now I deleted the files
 I am installing. I did not find it because it is listed differently
 any errors running sudo apt install nvidia-340 driver
 it is not called nvidia-340
 *nvidia-driver-340
 like nvidia-driver435
 sry, that's the name in 20.04...
[19:55] <leaftype> 20.04? that's not even out yet...
 I did sudo apt install nvidia-340
 I am installing
 oh!
 ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-5.5.0-15.1-liquorix-amd64 is not supported
 I run pre-releases to help flush out upgrade bugs.
 that's the problem
 maybe
 should I try to boot it with linux 5 kernel via grub?
 oh, yes.  NVidia stopped supporting older hw on kernels newer than 5.4.
 wow.
 so I should not upgrade to 20.04?
[19:57] <leaftype> lol, that sounds like Nvidia
 is there a way to boot automatically with linux kernel and not liquorix? I don't know how to do that
[19:58] <leaftype> btw, looking at the 340 driver... it doesn't say it supports the gt710
 unless every time I select it manually via advanced boot options in the grub
[19:58] <leaftype> gt720 and above
 So you have 3 options: stick with nouveau drivers, downgrade to linux 5.4 kernerl, or upgrade the video card.
 for now maybe I have just the older kernel installed alongside the new liquorix kernel
 because I switched to liquorix before upgrading... I am trying to reboot with the linux kernel
 Ok I confirm that I have Linux 5.3.0-45 installed
 Trying to boot with that kernel
 Ok it worked. Now.. How to make kernel 5.3.0 my default choice?
 Hold on, leaftype may correct, I think I mis-identified your card. (we may need to sudo apt purge nvidia* again....)
 Yep.. I am into desktop but weird things are happening
 Like system settings is crashing
 Etc..
 But I can still use it
 Even discover is crashing
 uh yeah, purge nvidia again... but now the question is which driver to install...
[20:08] <leaftype> well that's weird too
[20:08] <leaftype> nvidia recommends either 440 (for stability) or 435 (for enthusiasts)
[20:09] <leaftype> it tha thelps
 If the issue was in liquorix kernel... i mean
 Maybe I should install 435 provided by repo
[20:09] <leaftype> that's a good first start IMO
 yes, definitely could be kernel conflicts...
 Ok so sudo apt purge nvidia*
 ?
 yes
 After I just reboot?
 And try sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435?
 no, purge 1st then reboot.
 Yeah I wrote it so bad. I was meaning: purge first and after that reboot
 sure, try to install 435 before rebooting.  We know how to recover if it fails...
 I just have rebooted.. I will install 435 after starting up
 Ok now I am trying to install nvidia -435
[20:16] <leaftype> wish me luck btw, I'm about to see if my radeon 590 still freezes and turns everything green/purple under load
 Good luck
 We all need it
 👌
[20:21] <leaftype2> and the answer to that is... its still broken
 dang.  Which kubuntu version?
[20:22] <leaftype2> I have confidence though in 5 years this will all be fixed...
 lol
 Francesco, did we lose you?
[20:30] <leaftype2> I wonder if I'd have the same crashes if I used the integrated gpu...
[20:30] <leaftype2> I mean, it is pretty beafy for an igpu
 one way to find out.... :)
[20:31] <kubuntu2020> Hi
 hey
[20:34] <kubuntu2020> I would like to know if intel i5 4th gen is enough for kubuntu
[20:35] <kubuntu2020> ssd
[20:36] <leaftype> Alright... so 1/4 the fps, but no crash
 kubuntu2020, how much RAM?  i5 4th gen should be fine as long as you have at least 2G (preferably 4G or more).
[20:39] <kubuntu2020> 8GB
 Test it with a live usb, it should work very well.
 I am still here Darin
 I installed driver 435
 now I will reboot
 very good.
 cpu is at 82%
 systemd-udev is taking 40% of resources.
 Should I have to do something before rebooting?
 as long as the install completes you should be good to go.
 it said it finished
 but how to check it?
 did you install from the terminal or driver manager?
 terminal
[20:46] <kubuntu2020> What's different between Kubuntu and Netrunner ?
 once the terminal prompt returns, you are good to go.
 the fact is that the command finished long ago
 I have never run net runner. But, both Kubuntu and NR are debian based.
 Looks like NR is a rolling distro. So if you like if you like auto upgrading to latest sw, then it might be a good option.  Since I have never run, I cannot vouch for it's stability.
 However, I say kubuntu is quite stable even with backports installed which is similar to a "rolling release" for the KDE packages...
[20:53] <kubuntu2020> Kubuntu is stable ?
 In my experience, yes,  very stable.
 @DarinMiller I rebooted
 and ?
 And now I see the fonts veeery lite
 Little*
 And I can't understand nothing lol
 Small fonts?  you may need to force dpi in under fonts in System Settings.
 4k screen?
 Nope a television
 With 1368x768
 Oh, that's painful.
 How to fix this?
[20:59] <kubuntu2020> I would like to switch to linux from windows
[20:59] <kubuntu2020> Thanks
 Ah I set the character size
 In system settings
 It was set to 10
 Use the force DPI option as the bottom to scale all fonts (or use scale option in the Display and Monitor section)
 kubuntu2020, do you know how to make a live usb?
 Forcing dpi changed nothing
 it only take effect after restarting plasma and the any windows that are already open.
 so close all windows, and reopen them.
 to restart plasma:  plasmashell —replace &
 or log out log in.
 Scaling to x 1.1 had some effects
 But something is smaller.. Something not..
 Scaled at 1x1 is too big
 With a 13x7 TV I would guess you would want to shrink things...
 Yes but fonts are still too little..
 Small*
 Oh wait
 Foce dpi solved ot
 It
 very good :)
 Remember, font scaling affect every thing, but is visible until the respective apps and plasma are restarted.
 kbuntu2002, use https://www.balena.io/etcher/ to create bootable USB from the kubuntu ISO https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
 @DarinMiller, is not visible ^
 Why when I close the session it is still too small?
 But I solved the situation in the desktop
 restart plasma from a terminal or krunner:  plasmashell —replace &
 double dash^
 I need run for a bit (be back in 45min or so...)
 Ok. Thank you so much!
 np.
 I have another question
 I need hw accellerated chromium
 And it was working with radeon card.
 https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/08/how-to-enable-hardware-accelerated.html
 I am following the instructions here and installing the .deb package to enable hw acceleration in nvidia gpu
[21:54] <user|71202> Hi which Vitrual machine can support Kubuntu
[21:55] <user|71202> i have windows 64 bit i download the the Virtualbox but it support
[21:55] <user|71202> i downloaded Kubuntu 64 bit  and test it the 32 bits but it didnt work
 yes virtual box can support kubuntu
[21:56] <user|71202> which one oone i should to download because when i chosse linux it didnt give me the kubuntu version
 the last one 20.04 is actually in beta
 so you should go for 19.10
[21:57] <user|71202> 20.04 Virtual box you mean
[21:57] <user|71202> 19.10 its 64 bit
[21:58] <user|71202> and oracle vm didnt recognize it
 no I was meaning kubuntu version
 I downloaded the last version of virtual box and tested 19,10 64bit some days ago and it worked
[21:59] <user|71202> kuubtu the last one 64 bit the kubuntu 18 it support the 64 and 32 bit
[22:35] <richi__> Hallo
 Hey!
[23:18] <mattfly> i have a system freeze and plasmashell is taking one core 100% cpu but doesnt die with sigterm or sigstop and sigterm