| OvenWerks | areyouloco: if you happen to find a fw IF that just shows up in alsa then you are good to go but the audiofire interface I have here is _not_ one of them | 00:18 |
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| areyouloco | what are the differences: ubuntu studio vs avlinux vs kxstudio | 15:47 |
| oerheks | only with ubuntu-studio you are in title for support here :-) | 15:50 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | !kxstudio | 15:51 |
| ubottu | KXStudio is an Ubuntu-based operating system and a repository for Debian-based operating systems for audio production. Development is on hiatus until late-2019 as of this writing. It is not supported by Ubuntu or Ubuntu Studio, and using its repo is discouraged. Support in #kxstudio. | 15:51 |
| areyouloco | I dont want support (yet!) I am thinking of which distro to use | 15:54 |
| areyouloco | for now I have only used ubuntustudio | 15:54 |
| areyouloco | What about ffado drivers for firewire. Does ubustudio follow latest upstream versions? | 15:55 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | areyouloco: it's synced from upstream Debian. | 15:58 |
| oerheks | easy to find on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ffado/+packages | 15:58 |
| areyouloco | thx so its 2.4.1 should be fine | 15:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | areyouloco: Bear in mind, the kernel module for firewire audio must be disabled in order for FFADO to work properly. | 16:00 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | So, if you end up with a Firewire audio device that only works in FFADO, keep that in mind. | 16:01 |
| areyouloco | so I can just blacklist it | 16:01 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Correct. | 16:01 |
| areyouloco | thx for the info | 16:01 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | But also keep in mind: Firewire audio isn't manufactured anymore, which is why we're not supporting it going forward. | 16:01 |
| areyouloco | Yeah too bad. It provides better latency than usb | 16:02 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | USB 3.0 solves that. | 16:02 |
| areyouloco | Yeah but I like to stay oldschool on that | 16:03 |
| areyouloco | I am a beginner in audio but lesrning fast since I know linux a bit | 16:03 |
| areyouloco | thanks for now. I will be back when I get the gear and have real problems not just to chatty chat | 16:04 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Perfect. Chit-chat is in #ubuntustudio-offtopic | 16:04 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer[m]: usb 3.0 has the same latency limitations as USB 2.0 | 16:20 |
| OvenWerks | (1ms clock in USB means 2ms latency is the practical minimum) | 16:21 |
| * OvenWerks does not know what the practical minimum is for firewire | 16:22 | |
| OvenWerks | I have not tried my pci audio below .7ms | 16:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Still, 2ms latency is not audible. | 16:29 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | And PCI will always win. | 16:30 |
| OvenWerks | Yeah just that USB 3 is no better than USB 2 | 16:30 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | According to Holstein it is. | 16:30 |
| OvenWerks | So far as I know there is no real USB 3 audio standard. It is just USB 2 audio using the USB 3 line. | 16:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | There are USB3 audio interfaces coming out. | 16:32 |
| OvenWerks | There may seem to be a difference because USB 3 is better at isolating clients. | 16:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Just very uncommon. | 16:32 |
| OvenWerks | an audio device that says USB 3 has a USB plug but the audio protocol inside is still teh same as USB2 | 16:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Not necessarily. Mine admittedly is USB 2, but there are actual USB3 interfaces out there. | 16:34 |
| * OvenWerks suspects Holstein would have the same success with USB 2 with a dedicated USB card | 16:34 | |
| OvenWerks | modern motherboards have really bad USB 1 and 2 support | 16:36 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer[m]: multi-track video recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJuX3wbebQE | 16:38 |
| OvenWerks | I am not sure what sw she uses, but I am pretty sure the video is not lipsync | 16:39 |
| OvenWerks | (music starts at 5.40 ish) | 16:40 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I used to do stuff like that for a living. There's likely a hidden lavolier on her somewhere that was isolated/eq'd/reverbed in post. | 16:43 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That or an amazing shotgun mic. | 16:43 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | My guess is a shotgun mic that was removed in post using one of the other two shots. | 16:44 |
| OvenWerks | She normally puts an iphone under her shirt. | 16:45 |
| OvenWerks | Not sure what they used this time | 16:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That would do it then. Those things have amazing built-in mics and can be EQ'd in post pretty easily. | 16:46 |
| OvenWerks | Her accent is typical of north Vancouver Island (not Vancouver though). | 16:49 |
| tryingnethings | Trying out the Beta, Working remotely with a kid who is learning all this stuff | 22:02 |
| tryingnethings | we use Jitsi but when we boot into Ubuntu Studio and talk, he could hear me but I couldn't hear him | 22:02 |
| tryingnethings | But the same setup worked on Windows 10 | 22:02 |
| tryingnethings | his laptop he is running it on has one of those combo ports for headset/mic | 22:03 |
| tryingnethings | I'm not good with Jack so I'm sure I made things worse now, just looking for suggestions on what to try | 22:03 |
| ChuckLutz | Hi folks - first time using this - I've got a question about a test using my machine's built-in sound card vs. my Delta 1010. | 23:12 |
| ChuckLutz | I downloaded a basic .wav file of someone solo clapping (https://bigsoundbank.com/detail-1767-applause-3.htm). If I use Ubuntu Studio Controls and select my built-in sound card - "PCH,0.0 playback and capture (ALC269VB Analog)" then start jack, and do "aplay Downloads/1767.wav" at the command line, it plays back OK. | 23:15 |
| ChuckLutz | If I switch "Jack Master Device (no USB):" to my Delta 1010 - "M1010,0,0 playback and capture (ICE1712 multi)", stop/start jack, and reissue the aplay command, the playback seems to come at the right "tempo" but is horribly distorted (I have output channels 1 and 2 of the Delta 1010 breakout box going out to my mixer and to my amps). | 23:17 |
| ChuckLutz | I'm trying to figure out how to about diagnosing why this might be the case. | 23:18 |
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