[00:18] <OvenWerks> areyouloco: if you happen to find a fw IF that just shows up in alsa then you are good to go but the audiofire interface I have here is _not_ one of them
[15:47] <areyouloco> what are the differences: ubuntu studio vs avlinux vs kxstudio
[15:50] <oerheks> only with ubuntu-studio you are in title for support here :-)
[15:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> !kxstudio
[15:51] <ubottu> KXStudio is an Ubuntu-based operating system and a repository for Debian-based operating systems for audio production. Development is on hiatus until late-2019 as of this writing.  It is not supported by Ubuntu or Ubuntu Studio, and using its repo is discouraged. Support in #kxstudio.
[15:54] <areyouloco> I dont want support (yet!) I am thinking of which distro to use
[15:54] <areyouloco> for now I have only used ubuntustudio
[15:55] <areyouloco> What about ffado drivers for firewire. Does ubustudio follow latest upstream versions?
[15:58] <Eickmeyer[m]> areyouloco: it's synced from upstream Debian.
[15:58] <oerheks> easy to find on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ffado/+packages
[15:59] <areyouloco> thx so its 2.4.1 should be fine
[16:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> areyouloco: Bear in mind, the kernel module for firewire audio must be disabled in order for FFADO to work properly.
[16:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, if you end up with a Firewire audio device that only works in FFADO, keep that in mind.
[16:01] <areyouloco> so I can just blacklist it
[16:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> Correct.
[16:01] <areyouloco> thx for the info
[16:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> But also keep in mind: Firewire audio isn't manufactured anymore, which is why we're not supporting it going forward.
[16:02] <areyouloco> Yeah too bad. It provides better latency than usb
[16:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> USB 3.0 solves that.
[16:03] <areyouloco> Yeah but I like to stay oldschool on that
[16:03] <areyouloco> I am a beginner in audio but lesrning fast since I know linux a bit
[16:04] <areyouloco> thanks for now. I will be back when I get the gear and have real problems not just to chatty chat
[16:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> Perfect. Chit-chat is in #ubuntustudio-offtopic
[16:20] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: usb 3.0 has the same latency limitations as USB 2.0
[16:21] <OvenWerks> (1ms clock in USB means 2ms latency is the practical minimum)
[16:22]  * OvenWerks does not know what the practical minimum is for firewire
[16:24] <OvenWerks> I have not tried my pci audio below .7ms
[16:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> Still, 2ms latency is not audible.
[16:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> And PCI will always win.
[16:30] <OvenWerks> Yeah just that USB 3 is no better than USB 2
[16:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> According to Holstein it is.
[16:32] <OvenWerks> So far as I know there is no real USB 3 audio standard. It is just USB 2 audio using the USB 3 line.
[16:32] <Eickmeyer[m]> There are USB3 audio interfaces coming out.
[16:32] <OvenWerks> There may seem to be a difference because USB 3 is better at isolating clients.
[16:32] <Eickmeyer[m]> Just very uncommon.
[16:33] <OvenWerks> an audio device that says USB 3 has a USB plug but the audio protocol inside is still teh same as USB2
[16:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> Not necessarily. Mine admittedly is USB 2, but there are actual USB3 interfaces out there.
[16:34]  * OvenWerks suspects Holstein would have the same success with USB 2 with a dedicated USB card
[16:36] <OvenWerks> modern motherboards have really bad USB 1 and 2 support
[16:38] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: multi-track video recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJuX3wbebQE
[16:39] <OvenWerks> I am not sure what sw she uses, but I am pretty sure the video is not lipsync
[16:40] <OvenWerks> (music starts at 5.40 ish)
[16:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> I used to do stuff like that for a living. There's likely a hidden lavolier on her somewhere that was isolated/eq'd/reverbed in post.
[16:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> That or an amazing shotgun mic.
[16:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> My guess is a shotgun mic that was removed in post using one of the other two shots.
[16:45] <OvenWerks> She normally puts an iphone under her shirt.
[16:46] <OvenWerks> Not sure what they used this time
[16:46] <Eickmeyer[m]> That would do it then. Those things have amazing built-in mics and can be EQ'd in post pretty easily.
[16:49] <OvenWerks> Her accent is typical of north Vancouver Island (not Vancouver though).
[22:02] <tryingnethings> Trying out the Beta, Working remotely with a kid who is learning all this stuff
[22:02] <tryingnethings> we use Jitsi but when we boot into Ubuntu Studio and talk, he could hear me but I couldn't hear him
[22:02] <tryingnethings> But the same setup worked on Windows 10
[22:03] <tryingnethings> his laptop he is running it on has one of those combo ports for headset/mic
[22:03] <tryingnethings> I'm not good with Jack so I'm sure I made things worse now, just looking for suggestions on what to try
[23:12] <ChuckLutz> Hi folks - first time using this - I've got a question about a test using my machine's built-in sound card vs. my Delta 1010.
[23:15] <ChuckLutz> I downloaded a basic .wav file of someone solo clapping (https://bigsoundbank.com/detail-1767-applause-3.htm). If I use Ubuntu Studio Controls and select my built-in sound card - "PCH,0.0 playback and capture (ALC269VB Analog)" then start jack, and do "aplay Downloads/1767.wav" at the command line, it plays back OK.
[23:17] <ChuckLutz> If I switch "Jack Master Device (no USB):" to my Delta 1010 - "M1010,0,0 playback and capture (ICE1712 multi)", stop/start jack, and reissue the aplay command, the playback seems to come at the right "tempo" but is horribly distorted (I have output channels 1 and 2 of the Delta 1010 breakout box going out to my mixer and to my amps).
[23:18] <ChuckLutz> I'm trying to figure out how to about diagnosing why this might be the case.