| Unit193 | Filtered diffstat of xfce4-terminal: 11 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-), that seems safe. | 00:01 |
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| Unit193 | debdiff xfce4-terminal_0.8.9.1-1.dsc xfce4-terminal_0.8.9.2-1.dsc | filterdiff -x '*.po' -x '*/configure' -x '*/ChangeLog' | 00:01 |
| ochosi | Unit193: indeed, most of what i run is from git tbh... all the 4.15 stuff. but i'll soon try to do more 4.15 releases so ppl have a better basis for testing | 07:21 |
| Unit193 | Eh, that's not really related. | 07:52 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: my desktop suspends quickly, but coming back from suspend I see a black screen and a cursor bar for about 30 seconds before everything comes back. It's very bizarre... I figure it's probably just the weird combination of cheap gaming parts in a Cyberpower pc. | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | Full desktop I presume? | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | Yeah | 11:25 |
| ochosi | sounds odd, havent seen that before | 12:34 |
| FurretUber | Hi, there is a strange crash happening on Focal. By the messages, it seems to be caused by xfwm4: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1870265 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1870265 in linux (Ubuntu) "Intel GPU causes BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address: 0000000000000040" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:18 |
| FurretUber | I was able to reproduce this crash from the Xubuntu Beta | 15:18 |
| FurretUber | Also, I was unable to reproduce it from Lubuntu Beta | 15:18 |
| jphilips | thanks for reporting FurretUber | 15:31 |
| -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: garcon 0.7.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-garcon-0-7-0-released-tp58173.html (by Simon Steinbeiss) | 19:05 | |
| -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: libxfce4ui 4.15.2 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-libxfce4ui-4-15-2-released-tp58178.html (by Simon Steinbeiss) | 22:06 | |
| bikepunk | hi all, | 22:35 |
| bikepunk | what is the reason to have an entry for xfce4-terminal --prefecrences in the applications menu ? | 22:37 |
| bikepunk | I find it super confusing, | 22:37 |
| bikepunk | the entry is called xfce terminal and it has the very same logo as the entry to launch the actual terminal | 22:38 |
| bikepunk | the preferences are anyway accessible from the Edit>Preferences within xfce4 terminal | 22:39 |
| * bikepunk is looking into https://docs.xfce.org/apps/terminal/bugs | 22:41 | |
| bikepunk | not sure its the good place to report that issue tough | 22:42 |
| brainwash | bikepunk: it's the entry from the Settings category | 22:45 |
| Unit193 | If you use whisker, you wouldn't know. | 22:45 |
| brainwash | which is shown in the settings manager also | 22:45 |
| brainwash | I was under the impression that this entry was changed or adjusted already | 22:46 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14456 | 22:47 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 14456 in General "Entry name for xfce4-terminal-settings in Whisker menu is misleading" [Minor,Resolved: fixed] | 22:47 |
| -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-clipman-plugin 1.6.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-clipman-plugin-1-6-1-released-tp58180.html (by Simon Steinbeiss) | 22:48 | |
| bikepunk | brainwash, I use whisker | 22:56 |
| bikepunk | when I type "term" in the search, I get 2 entries, same logo and similar name :-( | 22:56 |
| bikepunk | oups I was talking to Unit193 | 22:57 |
| brainwash | I thought that this part was clear | 22:57 |
| brainwash | and I linked the upstream report | 22:58 |
| bikepunk | brainwash, yep, this is the issue I was reporting, thanks for the link ;-) | 22:59 |
| brainwash | the report is closed, so the issue should be fixed | 22:59 |
| bikepunk | it's not fixed in up to date 18.04 | 22:59 |
| bikepunk | hope it will be in 20.04 | 22:59 |
| brainwash | probably | 23:00 |
| bikepunk | but still I dont understant the need to have an entry for terminal preferences, may be I'm just weird | 23:00 |
| brainwash | well, now is the time to test it | 23:00 |
| brainwash | terminal preferences is meant for the Settings category which is used by the Settings Manager too | 23:01 |
| brainwash | you can find Thunar preferences there too | 23:01 |
| bikepunk | I see that, I dont understand the logic of it. But it's not a bug, it's a personal feeling | 23:02 |
| brainwash | modifying those settings without actually opening xfce4-terminal or Thunar? | 23:03 |
| bikepunk | yep. I don't know any user who would do that | 23:04 |
| bikepunk | all the users I know run the stuff then clic on preferences if needed | 23:04 |
| bikepunk | I wanted to report the same kind of issue for the entry "softwares & updates" opening software-properties-gtk | 23:09 |
| bikepunk | but may be this is fixed too | 23:09 |
| brainwash | best to actually check it | 23:10 |
| Unit193 | That's used to configure software and updates, not sure what's there to fix.. | 23:10 |
| bikepunk | Unit193, the bloody misleading name ! | 23:10 |
| Unit193 | How? | 23:10 |
| bikepunk | "configuration" shall be explicitly in the name of the entry | 23:11 |
| Unit193 | It's in settings, sooo... | 23:11 |
| bikepunk | not when you're using search | 23:11 |
| Unit193 | Should all entries in settings contain the name 'configuration'? | 23:11 |
| Unit193 | Perhaps search should be modified to show what category it is in. | 23:11 |
| bikepunk | Unit193, yep, may be | 23:11 |
| Unit193 | Note: We don't maintain software-properties-gtk so that one at least wasn't our fault anyway. :D | 23:12 |
| bikepunk | I don't blame anyone, just trying to make things better | 23:12 |
| bikepunk | xubuntu people might maintain the name of the entry in the menu though | 23:14 |
| Unit193 | Hah, yeah that was mainly an 'not our doing' thing, more of a lighthearted joke. This doesn't seem great though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1860504 | 23:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1860504 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "software-properties-gtk fails to launch via "Additional Drivers" or via terminal" [Low,New] | 23:14 |
| bikepunk | oups ^ | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | In settings, you have a couple that say 'manager', some say 'preferences', some say 'settings', some are very clear by the name, and some just rely on category. | 23:24 |
| bikepunk | I find the name "Software-properties" much more meaningful than "Software & updates" | 23:25 |
| bikepunk | it's actually the name of the package... | 23:25 |
| bikepunk | most of the GUI users I see are misleaded and open that to make the apt upgrade | 23:26 |
| bikepunk | while CLI users are not bothered by the GUI misleading stuff | 23:27 |
| Unit193 | ← | 23:29 |
| Unit193 | I have Synaptic installed, also trying package-update-indicator, but I don't use the GUI for updates or package management. | 23:29 |
| bikepunk | I avoid GUI as much as possible for my personnal use | 23:30 |
| Unit193 | I use a web browser! | 23:31 |
| bikepunk | but since I help installing xubuntu to people making the switch to FOSS | 23:32 |
| bikepunk | I actually see what people do, try and understand | 23:32 |
| bikepunk | and the current menu entries are quite misleading | 23:32 |
| Unit193 | I also use applications menu, not whisker, so the presentation is different. | 23:32 |
| bikepunk | "applications menu" is what you get with default alt + F3 ? | 23:34 |
| bikepunk | Unit193, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1222527/comments/5 | 23:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1222527 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Rename 'Software & Updates' label" [Low,Confirmed] | 23:40 |
| bikepunk | someone has implemented in gnome search what you suggested for whisker | 23:40 |
| * bikepunk go to sleep. | 23:45 | |
| bikepunk | I will try the beta 20.04 tomorow for testing and file some enhencements for the future | 23:45 |
| bikepunk | thanks for your work ;-) | 23:46 |
| bikepunk | wow, the misleading name bug is actually open since 2013... | 23:48 |
| bikepunk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1222527 | 23:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1222527 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Rename 'Software & Updates' label" [Low,Confirmed] | 23:48 |
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