[00:00] <spyfly> I'm experiencing some issues with the nvidia-440 driver on the 20.04 beta
[00:01] <exit70> is it a good idea to test 20.04 using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot 
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[09:18] <Groar> hi
[09:22] <Groar> anyone here?
[09:32] <Groar> Well, I'll ask my question and I'll wait till someone answers haha
[09:33] <Groar> I have holidays and nothing to do since Covid19 is in the air... well, now really, I live in Spain and cannot go outside. So I have nothing better to do than to enjoy my computer
[09:33] <Groar> so I've been thinking about upgrading from 18.04 to 22.04
[09:33] <Groar> errr 20.04*
[09:34] <Groar> In case I did it, when Ubuntu 20.04 (final) was released, would I have to reinstall it again or it wouldn't be needed at all?
[09:38] <jatt> you won't need to reinstall, you can just upgrade and you will get the final version
[09:45] <Groar> jatt: are you under it? is it working fine?
[09:46] <jatt> yes I upgraded yesterday, xrdp and openssh didn't work properly afterwards but I could fix the problems by installing an older version of those packages
[09:46] <jatt> other than that it's very much stable
[09:47] <Groar> I'll install it on Wednesday since the kernel will be freezing by that day
[09:47] <Groar> :)
[09:47] <jatt> good
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> Groar: just keep in mind the LTS upgrade way is waiting until 20.04.1 point release comes out around august
[10:13] <Groar> lotuspsychje: Yeah I knew that fact :)
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> cool, the users choice then :p
[12:41] <spyfly> I am experiencing some issues with the gui scaling. I am trying to set the scaling to 200% on a triple monitor setup with xorg using the proprietary nvidia-440 driver, but the screens will just go blank and revert back to 100%
[15:09] <diddledan> ello, anyone know anything about zfs setup for 20.04? my /boot is seemingly devoid of storage capacity - zfs list shows the active set (snapshot?) as using 1.13G while du -sh /boot shows ~300MB.. I need to figure out how to reduce its usage so I can finish installing updates (mkinitramfs dies because there isn't enough storage space on /boot for
[15:09] <diddledan> the initrd)..
[15:13] <diddledan> here's some info I managed to gather: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MVfHnqzbzf/
[15:14] <diddledan> I'm presuming I've somehow got a borked system and need to reinstall....? (it is beta, after all :-)
[15:22] <howarth> Is Gnome Weather working in the Ubuntu Message Tray for anyone as described in https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/04/see-world-clock-and-weather-info-ubuntu
[15:23] <howarth> I am seeing 'Weather Select a location' which is I click brings up the Gnome Weather app that automatically detects my location.
[15:24] <howarth> However when I click on the tray a second time, it is still showing 'Weather Select a location' instead of the five day report.
[15:25] <howarth> Ah, the comments in the article suggest that it doesn't seem to work well with automatic location detection
[15:25] <dh-tech> Hi folks, i am testing Ubuntu 20.04, before reporting a bug i want to make sure i am right, i have the all dark theme setup, but i noticed notification drop down, settings drop down and the authentication popup are white and not using the dark theme. 
[15:25] <dh-tech> is that expected 
[15:26] <howarth> Figured it out, turns out that I didn't have location detection services turned on, which is odd because the app itself still did detect location without that
[15:42] <dh-tech> Sorry to repeat my question, i am testing Ubuntu 20.04, before reporting a bug i want to make sure i am right, i have the all dark theme setup, but i noticed notification drop down, settings drop down and the authentication popup are white and not using the dark theme. 
[15:44] <cowpig> Hello! I've had a problem with iwlwifi since installing 20.04 on my new laptop, about 3 weeks ago. Have asked about it here a few times but nobody's been able to figure it out. Here are some details on the problem:
[15:44] <cowpig> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1224353/intel-wifi-driver-problems-in-ubuntu-20-04-development-branch?noredirect=1#comment2058973_1224353
[15:45] <cowpig> I want to report it to the right place but the instructions on reporting a bug seem to require a package:
[15:45] <cowpig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[15:45] <cowpig> My problem is the driver, not the package, I think. So I don't know how I'm supposed to report this
[15:46] <cowpig> should I report the problem on `ping` ??
[15:46] <Groar> one question. Does ubuntu 20.04 use xorg by default as previous versions?
[15:46] <Groar> or has it changed already?
[15:47] <dh-tech> My install used X11 by default, but i upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 not a fresh install 
[15:48] <Groar> dh-tech: is xorg better than the new one?
[15:51] <dh-tech> in my opinion Wayland still need a lot of improvements, but you always have the option to switch on the login screen 
[15:51] <diddledan> cowpig: run `dpkg -l |grep iwlwifi` if that returns `backport-iwlwifi-dkms` then you can run `ubuntu-bug backport-iwlwifi-dkms` to file the bug report semi-automatically.
[15:53] <cowpig> @diddledan it doesn't :(
[15:54] <diddledan> in that case then, try `ubuntu-bug linux-modules-extra-$(uname -r)`
[15:56] <diddledan> it looks like iwlwifi is in that second one if you haven't got the backport installed, so that should get you to the correct file bug page
[16:07] <cowpig> I got disconnected but submitted the bug report as you suggested diddledan
[16:08] <cowpig> would be nice if the bug report page had an explanation of how to figure out which package you should report to in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:03] <luna_> trying to change from Alpha to Beta now
[17:05] <luna_> worked good
[19:01] <howarth> Has anyone else noticed the following bug in the installer? On my 2008 MacPro, I prefer to Ubuntu 20.04 install its /boot/efi mount on the EFI partition of the physical linux disk. I tried using the Custom Partitioning option to select that device (/dev/sde) as the device for the boot loader installation. What actually happened was quite weird. The boot loader still got installed on the EFI partition of the macOS drive and worse the E
[19:01] <howarth> I partition on /dev/sde got recreated with the identical blkid of that of the EFI partition of the macOS drive.
[19:02] <howarth> So that I had two different devices with identical blkid's for their EFI partitions. Not good.
[19:06] <OmegaRidley> I'm trying the 20.04 beta image from Friday, and after I install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, I can't login back from the login screen anymore. After I confirm the password, it tries to login, but goes back to the login screen. I could confirm that it starts happening after I install that package. Anyone knows if that is a known issue
[19:06] <OmegaRidley> already?
[19:08] <luna_> sent some more suggestions for translations in the ubuntu-wallpaper-2004 package
[19:17] <howarth> Hard to see why anything in ubuntu-restricted-extras would impact logins
[19:18] <howarth> It just appears to be a metapackage to install unrar, ttf-mscorefonts and restricted audio codecs
[19:27] <billythekid123> hi there!
[19:27] <billythekid123> I just upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 beta. I checked the installed snaps and noticed that both gnome-3-28-1804 and gnome-3-34-1804 are installed so I tried to remove the 3.28. After doing that all snaps stopped working. Reinstalling it makes everything work. Any idea what this is?
[19:35] <howarth> The execution of the scripts in 'do-release-upgrade -d' seemed to do a dependency check on the snaps so it probably is a real dependency on some that haven't been fully updated to the newer gnome.
[19:37] <billythekid123> howarth that's my understanding as well. I tried doing something like:
[19:37] <billythekid123> $ snap connect firefox:gnome-3-34-1804 gnome-3-34-1804error: snap "firefox" has no plug named "gnome-3-34-1804"
[19:37] <billythekid123> so probably most snaps need to connect to the 3-34? right?
[19:38] <billythekid123> it's weird though because the beta comes with only gnome-3-34-1804 installed, so it should be working
[19:41] <billythekid123> oh yes that's it... I have a VM and I just fired Ubuntu beta. Installing firefox installs also gnome-3-34-1804.
[19:42] <howarth> Things can lag. I just noticed that gnome-photos is still based on the 3.34 code base
[19:42] <billythekid123> sorry I meant gnome-3-28-1804
[19:43] <billythekid123> one of the snaps actually works with only 3.34 on but firefox and Thunderbird require 3.34
[19:43] <billythekid123> and they install it if it's missing on a fresh install
[19:43] <howarth> And a big feature with Gnome 3.36 was supposed to be the replacement of Shotwell with Gnome Photos
[19:43] <billythekid123> you think it's worth reporting this over snapcraft or you think it's certain they are on to it?
[19:45] <howarth> Evolution is supposed to be replaced by Geary and Gnome calendar. Likewise Rhythm Box is supposed to be replaced by Gnome Music. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/02/gnome-3-36-features
[19:45] <billythekid123> haha yeah I read it :D
[19:47] <billythekid123> yeap 100% confirmed. some snaps depend on the previous gnome snaps and when you install them they install also previous versions of gnome. Removing the old gnome snap makes the snap unbootable.
[19:48] <billythekid123> if you install it again, everything works. Cool, thanks for the help/info howarth. I'll be patient then :)
[23:00] <BobParr> Hi all - looking to get some help for an issue. I fresh-installed MATE 20.04 and after trying to get some DVD's to play, I get "error:0 in libdvdnav.so.4.2.0" in syslog. I'm not sure where I start in troubleshooting this
[23:01] <BobParr> It was working after the fresh install in VLC, but some add-on I did must have messed it up
[23:02] <valorie>  libdvd is part of a library name
[23:02] <Bashing-om> BobParr: What shows ' dpkg -l libdvd-pkg ' ?
[23:02] <BobParr> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description+++-[23:02] <BobParr> DVD-Video playing library - installer
[23:03] <BobParr> That didn't paste very nicely
[23:03] <Bashing-om> !paste | BobParr 
[23:04] <BobParr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7xHkRjqQ7J/
[23:05] <Bashing-om> BobParr: Your paste does not load - check for typo, please.
[23:06] <BobParr> It was a copy paste ... Let's try again    https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7xHkRjqQ7J/
[23:06] <BobParr> Link works for me... 
[23:07] <BobParr> !pastebinit Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description+++-[23:07] <BobParr> 1.4.2-1-1    all          DVD-Video playing library - installer
[23:07] <BobParr> dangit, sorry
[23:08] <Bashing-om> BobParr: A problem here with my seconday browser - works in my primary. Any way the lib is installed. Was my only thought.
[23:10] <BobParr> Should I purge it and reinstall? apt install --reinstall libdvd-pkg didn't fix anything
[23:10] <oerheks> lib dvd needs 2 steps to work, right?
[23:10] <oerheks> sudo apt install libdvd-pkg && sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
[23:10] <BobParr> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkglibdvd-pkg: guest package [libdvdcss2/1.4.2-1~local] is already installed.
[23:11] <BobParr> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
[23:11] <BobParr> libdvd-pkg: guest package [libdvdcss2/1.4.2-1~local] is already installed.
[23:11] <Bashing-om> oerheks: BobParr : +1 ^
[23:11] <oerheks> well, remove vlc and addon you messed up
[23:11] <BobParr> What's the best way to do that?   apt purge?
[23:12] <Bashing-om> !info libdvd-pkg
[23:13] <oerheks> and remove cruft in ~/.config and ~/.cache too, VLC
[23:13] <BobParr> so use apt purge to do it?
[23:14] <oerheks> yes.
[23:16] <BobParr> I purged vlc, deleted the folders in ~/.cache and ~/.config and then reinstalled. Same error. Next step would be to purge libdvdnav4? It seems to remove a lot after that
[23:16] <BobParr> The following packages will be REMOVED:  celluloid* handbrake* libdvdnav4* libmpv1* mpv* vlc* vlc-plugin-base*
[23:19] <BobParr> Seems to only be an issue with DVDs, as BluRay plays fine
[23:26] <BobParr> bah - I purged libdvdnav4, which removed VLC. Then I reinstalled VLC (which came with libdvdnav4) and still get the same error
[23:26] <BobParr> kernel: [ 2273.937646] traps: vlc[7593] general protection fault ip:7f3ac6eb9d74 sp:7f3a8a77deb0 error:0 in libdvdnav.so.4.2.0[7f3ac6eb0000+d000]
[23:39] <oerheks> file a bugreport, perhaps? i find no recent ones
[23:40] <BobParr> ok. I'll have to do that. Thanks!
[23:47] <BobParr> I used the snap version and it works... so I guess I'll stick with that :P