[03:38] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:12] <ducasse> good morning
[18:02] <joeywebb> hey guys
[18:02] <joeywebb> hows everyone?
[18:03] <daftykins> all well here thanks, and you?
[19:42] <Croran> Unity is better than Gnome. Discuss.
[19:43] <akem> So i compiled a kernel some time ago, then a more recent one lately (both using make menuconfig etc), and i wanted to remove the old one of course, but looks like there is nothing to do it automaticly, no "make uninstall" or whatever? that's strange. So i just removed the files manually.
[19:44] <daftykins> sounds fine, might want to update grub though
[19:44] <akem> Yep.
[19:45] <Groar> oh
[19:45] <Croran> :)
[19:45] <Croran> https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-think-about-Canonical-replacing-Unity-with-Gnome-in-Ubuntu-18-04/answer/Daniel-Brown-1088
[19:45] <Croran> you didn't find any issues similar to those when you switched Groar?
[19:46] <Groar> Yeah, I prefered the bubbles over the new notifications, for example. Also, the title bar and menus waste so much space
[19:46] <Croran> and when you click something that opens a 'sub window' you can no longer click the main window?
[19:46] <Croran> nor even see what's underneath.
[19:47] <Groar> yeah, absolutely agree
[19:47] <akem> I think you can still install Unity if you want it. But Gnome is not bad. But i like LXQT even more(the DE shipped with LUbuntu).
[19:47] <Groar> I'm thinking about moving to KDE
[19:47] <Croran> KDE was unstable when i last used it, and ugly.
[19:47] <daftykins> kubuntu as a whole is nice, almost fully functional for me out of the box
[19:47] <Groar> well, I used it when KDE 4 was released for the last time
[19:48] <Croran> akem: yes installing unity still works fine in 18.04. not officially supported though :(
[19:48] <Groar> and..
[19:48] <Groar> KDE 4 was fine, but unstable. But again, I used it when it was released
[19:48] <Groar> it wasn't ugly though
[19:48] <Croran> groar: you don't mind all the white/blue alternate colored rows in the file manager and music library and such
[19:49] <Croran> croran: it looks like something an accountant would like
[19:49] <Croran> lol. talking to myself.
[19:49] <Groar> Croran: well, I don't care about it tbh
[19:50] <Groar> I think that's made to make it easier to read a lot of lines
[19:50] <Croran> groar: i like to be able to hit the meta key, type in a partial application name and hit enter and have it start.
[19:50] <Croran> groar: as i recall, kde required some third-party plugin to even enable a 'search'
[19:50] <Groar> search apps?
[19:51] <Groar> or files?
[19:51] <Croran> groar: apps
[19:51] <Groar> oh, normally I used the menus
[19:51] <Groar> otherwise I'd be using command-line, create a shortcut and click over it haha
[19:51] <Croran> groar: right, i never use the menu. i put my 90% used apps in the dock and the rest i hit meta, type the name, and enter.
[19:51] <daftykins> krunner is invoked with alt+space and can be used to launch anything
[19:51] <Groar> yeah so unity fits for you
[19:52] <Croran> daftykins: thanks. can be remapped to meta key without issues?
[19:52] <daftykins> i imagine you mean super by that
[19:52] <daftykins> i don't personally believe in fighting defaults
[19:52] <Croran> daftykins: yes
[19:53] <daftykins> though i was a bit frustrated since alt+space's original use is something i use
[19:54] <Croran> daftykins: me neither usually, but certain keyboard shortcuts i've used so much that i don't want to change.
[19:54] <Croran> daftykins: eg. i use ctrl+c and ctrl+v in vim
[19:55] <Croran> gvim, rather.
[19:55] <daftykins> i only know of copy and paste being different on macOS :D
[19:56] <daftykins> a truly horrible OS
[19:56] <Croran> daftkins: well gvim default is like "+yy or some nonsense
[19:57] <daftykins> ah, life is too short for text editors you have to learn, in my book
[19:57] <Croran> well don't get me wrong. i still think gvim is a net win for saving life.
[19:58] <Croran> just the ability to select text 'columns' is a big one.
[20:02] <Groar> https://askubuntu.com/questions/449651/how-do-i-enable-wobbly-windows >> sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-plugins || I'm amazed 3D cube and wobbly windows are still available in Ubuntu
[20:02] <daftykins> i'm amazed anyone still wants them
[20:02] <Groar> haha
[20:03] <Groar> I want them :D
[20:03] <Croran> groar: haha. my fav is the compizconfig 'commands' plugin for keyboard shortcuts.
[20:05] <Groar> time to have dinner
[20:06] <Groar> have fun guys
[20:06] <Croran> you too