[01:49] <Fevix> How do I get a DeviceURI?
[01:50] <iKarus987> https://github.com/GNS3/gns3-gui/releases/tag/v2.2.5 em i correct? this isnt for ubuntu
[01:50] <iKarus987> correct?
[01:51] <oerheks> lshw, lspci, lsusb, lscpu, dmidecode ..
[01:52] <oerheks> iKarus987, already in the ppa https://launchpad.net/~gns3/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[01:52] <iKarus987> i want 2.2.5
[01:52] <iKarus987> not 2.2.6
[01:53] <iKarus987> is 2.2.5 in the ppa?
[01:53] <oerheks> oh, good for you ..
[01:53] <oerheks> why?
[01:53] <iKarus987> because 2.2.5 is working fine for me
[01:53] <iKarus987> 2.2.6 has bugs
[01:53] <oerheks> go look yourself please, i am not your screenreader
[01:53] <iKarus987> lol
[01:54] <iKarus987> k i see  gns3-gui2.2.5~disco1
[01:54] <iKarus987> seems promising
[01:54] <iKarus987> so just "sudo apt-get install  gns3-gui2.2.5~disco1" ?
[01:55] <iKarus987> i am new to linux
[01:55] <iKarus987> because if i do "sudo apt-get install gns3-gui" it will install the 2.2.6
[01:55] <iKarus987> version
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> iKarus987: Ubuntu 19.04 ended support and is no longer supported here. Update your Ubuntu version to continue receiving help here please
[01:57] <iKarus987> huh 19.04?
[01:57] <iKarus987> i am on 18.04
[01:57] <pragmaticenigma> !disco | iKarus987
[01:57] <oerheks> mixing disco packages and bionic is a bad idea, grab the one from your first url?
[01:57] <pragmaticenigma> iKarus987: You just said you were seeing packages for disco
[01:57] <oerheks> you won't get updates
[01:58] <iKarus987> ohh my
[01:58] <iKarus987> okay i have ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[01:59] <iKarus987> do i really need to update
[01:59] <iKarus987> to get updates ?
[01:59] <iKarus987> to 19.04
[01:59] <cluelessperson> I'm fearing I might have to return to Windows to utilize the power of my laptop.
[01:59] <oerheks> no, you won't get updates for gns3
[01:59] <iKarus987> if revert back to 2.2.5
[01:59] <iKarus987> you mean
[02:00] <cluelessperson> I'm about to install ubuntu again (instead of debian + xfce) and see how it goes. :P
[02:00] <oerheks> yes
[02:00] <iKarus987> i dont care
[02:00] <iKarus987> i like 2.2.5
[02:00] <iKarus987> so how do i go back to 2.2.5
[02:00] <iKarus987> :( "sudo apt-get install gns3" will only install 2.2.6
[02:01] <oerheks> build it yourself from github
[02:01] <iKarus987> ohh i guess there is first time for everything
[02:35] <Croran> why does pulseaudio constantly run at 2-3% CPU usage? My uptime is 32 days and my pulseaudio has taken almost 33 hours of CPU time.
[02:35] <Croran> Even without audio playing.
[02:37] <oerheks> sounds good to me?
[02:37] <oerheks> are there any errors in dmesg?
[02:40] <Croran> pulseaudio errors in dmesg? not that I've seen.
[02:40] <Croran> my dmesg is full of UFW BLOCK messages since I've enabled gufw :(
[02:49] <[rg]> what handles the software store admin?
[02:49] <[rg]> I want to change that and the software updates policy
[02:51] <oerheks> softwarecenter is closed source, iirc
[02:51] <oerheks> updates policy, unattended settings in/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[02:52] <oerheks> and some more, https://libre-software.net/ubuntu-automatic-updates/
[02:52] <alvaroflm> hello ! :)
[02:52] <alvaroflm> someone knows if its possible to extend the timeout of an element in a set (with nft)?
[02:54] <[rg]> thank you oerheks
[03:06] <nicolas17> Ubuntu bionic, someone added the KDE Neon apt repository to sources.list to get a newer version of Qt, but then a later "apt upgrade" upgraded more than that from neon, including base-files
[03:06] <nicolas17> now apps think the system is neon because of /etc/os-release >_>
[03:06] <oerheks> yes, it is not ubuntu anymore..
[03:07] <oerheks> kubuntu uses backports.
[03:07] <nicolas17> I just noticed the version is "just" 10.1ubuntu2.8 -> 10.1ubuntu2.8+p18.04+git20200203.1028, it's *probably* safe to downgrade (if it had been 10->11 or something I'd be more worried)
[03:22] <monojamoon|> hey guys, which system tray does Ubuntu use?
[03:22] <monojamoon|> I think default gnome doesn't have a system tray
[03:30] <Bashing-om> !info docker | monojamoon|
[03:31] <Bashing-om> monojamoon|: In terminal ' apt show docker ' - is this what you seek ?
[03:32] <monojamoon|> checking it
[03:32] <monojamoon|> a moment please
[04:50] <Simonious_> I'm trying to get an older machine running (AMD FX-8320 in a Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P) and so far I'm just booting off of the ubuntu install DVD (18.04.4) and it is failing to bring up the network via built in ethernet, ethernet card or wifi card.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: wich chipset are they?
[04:51] <Simonious_> there is a realtek and an AMDtech, the wifi card isn't in there at the moment.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> realtek chipsets can indeed be a bit flaky with some kernel versions
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: is it a recent iso with the HWE kernel?
[04:54] <Simonious_> lotuspsychje: today's, I also tried with last week's, same behavior.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: if you say its an old chipset, i assume newer kernel might have issues with it, maybe an iso with kernel 4.15 could bypass this
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: dont you have a wifi dongle laying around to help you?
[04:56] <Simonious_> hmm, I do have a wifi card, but that failed too
[04:56] <Simonious_> and both NICs in the machine are failing
[04:56] <Simonious_> I feel like I'm missing something
[04:56] <Simonious_> I do have some other NICs
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> wich chipset is that wifi?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> if its a broadcom drivers are on the install medium to use
[04:56] <Simonious_> RT3062F
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> ouch yeah
[04:57] <Simonious_> I also have an old 3Com card here
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> RT is also pretty picky on kernels sometimes
[04:57] <Simonious_> I haven't actually tried the 3com yet, may as well
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: yeah try to bypass the install with connection, and update to latest, might also help
[04:58] <Simonious_> what does that mean? I haven't started an install yet
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> meaning try out different network cards till you are connected
[04:59] <Simonious_> ahh
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> its usually a good idea to install updates during the setup
[04:59] <Simonious_> if the 3COM doesn't work, I'm gonna have to dig deep, I don't have any others out
[04:59] <Simonious_> right!
[04:59] <Simonious_> which is why I haven't started an install
[04:59] <Simonious_> at least in part
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: try to boot into a live before install, so we can see network related errors too
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: volunteers can help you better from a live, to see whats happening
[05:00] <Simonious_> ahh, I actually have 2 3com cards here after all, those always used to be pretty well supported
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> great
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> once system installed and up to date, we can also try to fix your internal cards
[05:02] <Simonious_> that would be good
[05:03] <Simonious_> I guess it doesn't much matter if I have to use a slot for a NIC though
[05:03] <Simonious_> If these 2 3COM cards don't take, I may just order something modern
[05:13] <Simonious_> so strange, I mean it recognizes the NICs right there in the GUI network setup
[05:13] <Simonious_> but it fails to activate them
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: some cards might have a glitch there, you need to retry disconnect and connect
[05:14] <Simonious_> I guess one more 3COM card to try, but I feel like I'm missing something.. I'll try that before I reboot for the last card I guess
[05:39] <Simonious_> Hmm, well no luck with the 3COM cards, maybe I'll try grabbin a USB wifi dongle from my desk at work tomorrow or Monday
[05:39] <Simonious_> still super weird how it sees the NICs, but can't connect
[05:43] <Bashing-om> Simonious_: spared off the cable ?
[05:43] <Simonious_> I have two cables connected to the switch now
[05:43] <Simonious_> one in each NIC
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: you sure you dont have other network troubles atm?
[05:44] <Simonious_> well.. I'm using the same switch to chat w/ you now
[05:44] <Bashing-om> Simonious_: Reduce to simpler terms - bring the system up with but one NIC connected ?
[05:45] <Simonious_> that's where I started
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: that sounds weird, your network icon says connected but dont have internet?
[05:45] <Simonious_> no, it doesn't say connected
[05:45] <Simonious_> it fails to connect
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> oh
[05:46] <Simonious_> it shows the NICs
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> i see
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> i had those behaviours before on bionic setup on some card brands
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> first they show connected, then drop connection
[05:46] <Simonious_> these have never shown connected
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:47] <Simonious_> it's always: connect: network is unreachable
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: try to reach the live before install later, so we can debug
[05:48] <Simonious_> hmm?
[05:48] <Simonious_> live is booted now.
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> oh
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: journalctl -f from terminal, and see the errors while trying to connect
[05:49] <Bashing-om> Simonious_: Run ' cat /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml ' . is the render here shown "renderer: NetworkManager" ? ( step one)
[05:50] <Simonious_> lotuspsychje: lots going on there.. wish you could see it
[05:50] <Simonious_> Bashing-om:
[05:50] <Simonious_> Version: 2
[05:50] <Simonious_> renderer: NetworkManager
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: check also: sudo lshw -C network and see at bottom if the driver= modules are loaded
[05:51] <Simonious_> lotuspsychje: I tried that one earlier, it's odd, it only works if I'm not sudo
[05:53] <Bashing-om> Simonious_: "sudo lshw -C network >> broadcast=yes driver=8139too " <- my result.
[05:54] <Simonious_> yeah, I have that, standby
[05:55] <Simonious_> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TDxkv2v8AR5yWh3TA
[05:56] <Simonious_> tough to read, but the drivers are there
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> check if the journal logs say something about AP not connected or something
[05:57] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Simonious_ realtec. lotuspsychje to the rescue.
[05:59] <Bashing-om> Simonious_: Take a moment and see if this is the driver you are working with: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323786 .
[05:59] <Simonious_> https://photos.app.goo.gl/BYwZUzMYu7j5j2Y27
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> going for breakfast first
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Simonious_: hmm could it be a dhcp issue from your router/modem ?
[06:01] <Simonious_> I wonder.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> try the cale yet from your current connection?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> cable
[06:01] <Simonious_> like pull the plug on the one I'm talking with?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> or reboot modem/router
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah try
[06:08] <Bashing-om> Simonious_: I have to run - you are in good hands with lotuspsychje.
[06:13] <coffeeGhost> I cannot seem to successfully apply an update to my firmware with fwupdmgr... I tried installing the snap store version and using that instead which got updates to actually seem like they're working, but each time I do that process and check updates again it says my firmware is the old version. :o
[06:13] <fengshaun> in a debian/ubuntu repository, what's the difference between dists and pool? like this: http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/
[06:13] <fengshaun> there are packages in pool that are not in dists
[06:17] <ducasse> fengshaun: try #raspbian?
[06:21] <Simonious_> tested cables.. have another PC plugged into main router and working, now testing a straight run back to the router
[06:24] <fengshaun> figured it out. dists has Packages file which points to actual packages in pool/
[06:32] <Simonious_> network is working.. I have to troubleshoot exactly what was going wrong, but I think a kid knocked the router off the shelf and strained the cable end
[06:33] <Simonious_> turns out my desktop was sneaking onto the wifi and ignoring the wired connection
[06:34] <Simonious_> I have more troubleshooting to figure out, but I'll sort that out another day, for the moment it works and I can do the install.
[06:34] <Simonious_> lotuspsychje: thanks for the help
[06:49] <robertparkerx> Why do some file type transfer faster than others? For instance mkv download slow.
[06:50] <ducasse> robertparkerx: which transfer protocol?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> welcome Simonious_
[06:51] <robertparkerx> ducasse ftp
[06:52] <robertparkerx> multiple zip/rar or zip/rar seem to download faster
[06:54] <tatertots> lots of things factor in to transfer speed when transferring files from point A to point B, including but not limited to, internet speed, geographical location and infrastructure
[06:54] <tatertots> just exercise patience when downloading large files
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> lets keep discussions out of the support channel tatertots
[07:33] <r3dux> #linuxmint
[08:14] <CoolerX> is there a way to get the full path of a file in nautilus?
[08:14] <CoolerX> maybe right click "get absolute path" something like that?
[08:46] <theborger> ? can you make a shortcut on windows and have that shortcut on ubuntu?
[08:47] <EriC^> theborger: what are you trying to achieve ultimately?
[08:48] <theborger> EriC^: iwant to access a folder on windows in nix
[08:48] <theborger> kind of stupid lol.  ill just mount the drive in nix
[08:49] <EriC^> :D
[09:10] <pyzozord> hey I noticed I can use ctrl+. to open a emoji window. However that doesn't work in a lot of places like WhatsDesk app I installed for whatsapp or in firefox
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> pyzozord: that's app related, not ubuntu related, i guess
[09:12] <pyzozord> MonkeyDust: could be, but I guess my question is "how can I make emojis in ubuntu always, despite the app"
[09:14] <Groar> hi
[09:16] <Groar> What's the development phase of Ubuntu 20.04?
[09:16] <Groar> is actually beta or RC?
[09:18] <Groar> !20.04
[09:29] <theborger> hey guys trying to mount a win share.  I can get it if i used username and password on command line.  but if i try to do the "/etc/win-cred" i get a perms issue
[09:30] <theborger> following this guide   https://websiteforstudents.com/mount-windows-10-share-on-ubuntu-18-04-16-04/
[09:36] <theborger> this is what is in dmesg
[09:36] <theborger> [33771.216312] No dialect specified on mount. Default has changed to a more secure dialect, SMB2.1 or later (e.g. SMB3), from CIFS (SMB1). To use the less secure SMB1 dialect to access old servers which do not support SMB3 (or SMB2.1) specify vers=1.0 on mount.
[09:36] <theborger> [33771.218544] Status code returned 0xc000006d STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[09:36] <theborger> [33771.218558] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
[09:36] <theborger> [33771.218608] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -1
[09:52] <HaJones> I can not reach my bios settings. When googling I find out that in windows there are problem reaching bios settings when "fastboot" is enabled. Is it the same for Ubuntu (kde neon based on ubuntu 18:04)?
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> HaJones: try   sudo dmidecode | more
[09:55] <HaJones> MonkeyDust ok what to look for?
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> HaJones: depends on what you want to find
[09:56] <HaJones> I just what to get in to my bios settings :)
[09:56] <HaJones> I have enabled fastboot.
[09:56] <HaJones> That would be a problem on windows machines but since Im single booting linux I wonder if it is the same for linxu
[10:00] <OxThiebaut> I am looking to run Elastic's Auditbeat in the ubuntu:19.10 docker container but get "stat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/kprobe_events: no such file or directory". Is there a way to build an ubuntu image which has the tracing enabled?
[10:02] <HaJones> MonkeyDust What do I look for? I would like to get into bios settings. I can pastebin the output from demidecode if it would help.
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> HaJones: just looked it up, there's seems no way to achieve that
[10:04] <HaJones> MonkeyDust you mean that fastboot is not a problem for linux machines ?
[10:05] <OxThiebaut> Or any way to debug why root gives "mount: /sys/kernel/debug: permission denied."
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> HaJones: i looked up how to enter bios settings, am not familiar with fastboot
[10:06] <HaJones> MonkeyDust ok so no way of getting in to bios what you found out?
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> HaJones: correct
[10:08] <HaJones> MonkeyDust when I reboot I get an image of the desktop as I left it before the reboot. That means that the desktop either is written to hdd or some part of linux is not really rebooting. Is this the same for you?
[10:09] <HaJones> The problem with fastboot is that you can not reach bios on a windows machine if it is enabled since a part of the os is suspended in to ram or hdd or something like that.
[10:10] <HaJones> but that is windows.
[10:10] <HaJones> perhaps linux has implemented the same schema for quicker boot.
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> HaJones: looks like you didnt really reboot, but hibernated the system
[10:44] <multifractal> Does anyone know how to view print statements or logs written by a cron task?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> multifractal: not with a cron task, but you can try the 'watch' command, to see changes with intervals
[10:51] <omega_doom> Hello. Can someone recommend a sane way to deal with it? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1286910
[10:56] <echoSMILE> Is possible to config apt to use only https (443) ?
[11:00] <sixwheeledbeast> You wouldn't hit repos that are http only
[11:04] <echoSMILE> sixwheeledbeast: that's fine. I already change at sources.list from http to https, but no success
[11:05] <sixwheeledbeast> you need apt-transport-https IIRC ?
[11:06] <echoSMILE> sixwheeledbeast: I already have it, yes
[11:08] <echoSMILE> Err:1 https://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan InRelease Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:443
[11:10] <sixwheeledbeast> does archive.ubuntu.com have 443?
[11:13] <echoSMILE> sixwheeledbeast: seems it doesn't
[11:13] <sixwheeledbeast> that's what I was thinking
[11:13] <sixwheeledbeast> you'd have to find a mirror that does
[11:14] <echoSMILE> Is there any way to get the mirrors list ?
[11:23] <echoSMILE> I think I found one, but not for security packages :>
[11:25] <echoSMILE> nevermind, works as well :)
[11:40] <p0a> Hello I got an error that says "Ubuntu 19.10 has experienced an internal error" from /usr/bin/gnome-shell
[11:41] <p0a> I've been told before I may be having a failing hard drive, but I Am wondering if this is connected to it
[11:47] <p0a> I see it might be a popular recent bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1866222
[12:10] <StevenJayCohen> I think I may have found a bug (and a workaround). I'm looking for someone else to check it out. Set up a dark theme for Gnome. Set Chrome to use GTK+. See the dark background/dark text bug on suggestions for text boxes...
[12:11] <uebera||> Hi. What exactly should I look for if "mini-dinstall -v --batch" tells me "mini-dinstall [140499871676160] WARNING: Skipping "/mnt/shared/packages/pbuilder/archive/mini-dinstall/incoming/buildah_1.14.5~74_amd64.changes"; upload incomplete", but dput previoulsy told me everything had been uploaded?
[12:11] <StevenJayCohen> Workaround: Launch Chrome with --force-dark-mode and re-check it. You will see light text on dark background.
[12:11] <StevenJayCohen> BUT: Once someone has tried this, I found an odd way to launch Chrome that doesn't respect .desktop files.
[12:12] <StevenJayCohen> The not respecting .desktop files is either an Unbuntu bug or a Debian bug, I'm not sure which.
[12:13] <StevenJayCohen> The rest of it is a Chromium bug, I know that. And I will submit it there.
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> StevenJayCohen: we cant file bugs against chrome as its not on the ubuntu repos, you can for chromium though
[12:31] <StevenJayCohen> That isn't the issue. Once you see that works, I can explain the Ubuntu specific issue.
[12:32] <StevenJayCohen> lotuspsychje:  Using search to launch Chrome behaves 1 way and using the dash to launch Chrome behaves differently
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> StevenJayCohen: then feel free to file the ubuntu bug about this?
[12:32] <StevenJayCohen> This means that the Dash is not respecting the .desktop files for launching purposes
[12:32] <StevenJayCohen> Yes, I found it using Chrome, but the issue is global (not limited to 1 app)
[12:33] <StevenJayCohen> lotuspsychje: I am looking for someone here to confirm that I have it right. That there is an error.
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> StevenJayCohen: its not bug #1732482 that you have?
[12:36] <StevenJayCohen> checking
[12:38] <StevenJayCohen> No. Not using Chromium. And .desktop files ARE getting created. The issue is launching ANY app from search respects flags in the .desktop while launching the very same app from the Dash (Favorite) does NOT respect the flags set within the .desktop file.
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> right
[12:39] <StevenJayCohen> Can get the same result using any app that has a flag like --fullscreen etc. Searching for the app and launching will respect the flag. Launching from Favorites on the dash will NOT respect the fag written into the .desktop file.
[12:40] <StevenJayCohen> So Favorites on the Dash are not using (respecting) the .desktop files.
[12:40] <StevenJayCohen> 19.10 fresh install
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> StevenJayCohen: cant seem to find a bug related to that right away
[12:45] <StevenJayCohen> lotuspsychje: That's why I was looking for a second person to confirm the bug before I submit it
[12:45] <StevenJayCohen> lotuspsychje: Do you get the same behavior?
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> StevenJayCohen: im on 20.04 devel right now
[12:47] <StevenJayCohen> lotuspsychje: The bug could still exist in 20.04. In fact, if it does, it is more important to check.
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> StevenJayCohen: what do you want me to test?
[12:48] <StevenJayCohen> lotuspsychje: Yes, I would appreciate that.
[12:49] <StevenJayCohen> lotuspsychje: Find any app that can take a flag at startup (like --fullscreen)
[12:49] <StevenJayCohen> add that flag to the .desktop file
[12:49] <StevenJayCohen> launch the app from a search using the Super Key (should respect the flag)
[12:49] <StevenJayCohen> add the app to the Favorites on the dash
[12:50] <StevenJayCohen> launch from Dash (If bug exists: it WON'T respect the flag you set previously)
[13:08] <jeffmr> Is there much difference between 18.04 and 18.04.4?
[13:09] <EriC^> jeffmr: software is up to date
[13:10] <jeffmr> ok
[13:26] <amazoniantoad> How do I implement a system-wide proxy without using environment variables? It doesn't really work with most apps
[13:27] <amazoniantoad> I'm trying to do this using a socks proxy
[13:31] <Groar> jelly: as far as I know, 18.04.X basically contains updates till a certain date
[13:32] <Groar> it only happens with LTS versions
[13:33] <Kon-> Each point release also includes an optional update to the kernel and display server
[13:52] <Bergcube> HexChat Friends list. I know I should be able to add friends based on the text-string with the @ in it, instead of simply using the nick. In order to let Hexchat recognise people even if they change their nick a bit. But I cannot figure out how to get this to work. Am I simply mistaken? If not, what is the exact syntax / method to achieve this?
[13:53] <Bergcube> I realise this might be off-topic, but Hexchat is one of the ubuntu IRC packages. And the #Hexchat channel has not given any result.
[14:05] <Kon-> Bergcube: I don't use Hexchat but I assume it's *!*@string - but #hexchat is a working channel
[14:07] <Bergcube> Thanks, Kon. Yes, I know. I posted there a few hours ago, so I guess it's sunday there as well.
[14:11] <HaJones>  I have some problem: I just installed neon kde, basically kubuntu, where / is on an btrfs partition and I have also a 550mb efi partition (fat32). On my first reboot after removing my pendrive with the image I get grub> promt. ls reveals (hd3,msdos1)/ efi/ and (hd3,msdos5) @/ @home. all other ls responds to unknown filesystem. what to do? Does not GRUB recognize btrfs?
[14:19] <ducasse> HaJones: neon is not supported here, try #kde-neon
[14:20] <Kon-> ducasse: The support channel is #kde-neon-users
[14:20] <HaJones> ducasse: I thought it was more or less an ubuntu flavor.
[14:21] <HaJones> Kon- ok, thanks
[14:21] <ducasse> !derivatives | HaJones
[14:21] <Kon-> HaJones: Neon ships with some different defaults and different versions of things. Most notably an updated Qt which is kind of a big deal
[14:22] <Kon-> It's like coming into #debian and asking for Kubuntu support
[14:25] <HaJones> Kon- ok I get it. sorry.
[14:25] <Kon-> No worries, just explaining why things are as they are
[14:26] <HaJones> :)
[14:27] <PeeOnYou> amazoniantoad: set the proxy as the default gateway?
[14:27] <PeeOnYou> nm.. that wont work
[14:42] <omega_doom> Is there a list of all dbus services which have been started since boot?
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> omega_doom: this might be the answer you are looking for? https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/46309
[14:46] <omega_doom> pragmaticenigma: not really. It shows only active services. I need all services that have beed started since boot. Some can be not active now.
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> amazoniantoad: You might be able to setup a network tunnel locally, that goes through a proxy service, then setup your machine to route all traffic to that tunnel
[15:23] <dh-tech> Hi folks, i am testing Ubuntu 20.04, before reporting a bug i want to make sure i am right, i have the all dark theme setup, but i noticed notification drop down, settings drop down and the authentication popup are white and not using the dark theme.
[15:24] <dh-tech> is that expected
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> dh-tech: Support and questions only in #ubuntu+1
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> for 20.04
[15:24] <dh-tech> Ok thank you, sorry about that
[15:26] <Boyette> hi all
[15:53] <knik> Hello! Im having issues installing Ubuntu on an old laptop, anyone willing to help me a bit?
[15:55] <sixwheeledbeast> !ask
[15:56] <sixwheeledbeast> model of laptop and your issue will help
[15:57] <braindead_> i need to install java on ubuntu 18.04 but i cant get it. seems like the packages are removed?
[15:58] <braindead_> sudo apt install oracle-java11-installer nor sudo apt install oracle-java11-installer-local is working
[15:59] <braindead_> anybody knows how i could install it? even created a oracle account and downloaded jdk-11.0.6_linux-x64_bin.tar.gz manually but dont know what to do with it :/
[16:00] <knik> I have an old laptop (HP Compaq 8510p) and I have downloaded and Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS and flashed it to a USB. I can boot from the USB and get to the install screen, but when I press install I cannot choose on what drive to install, it just starts the process. When it is done, I can click on Live Session User, but it doesnt really work. It like the
[16:00] <knik> OS has been installed on the USB or something. Any idea on what to do here? I have tried to format the USB drive and flash the OS on there again, but same issue.
[16:00] <braindead_> also apt-get install default-jre returns only E: Package 'default-jre' has no installation candidate
[16:06] <oerheks> !info openjdk11
[16:06] <oerheks> !find openjdk
[16:06] <oerheks> openjdk-11-jdk it is
[16:06] <oerheks> one could easily find it on launchpad or the !java factoid
[16:12] <sixwheeledbeast> knik: does everything work from the live-image as in don't install "try ubuntu"
[16:13] <braindead_> oerheks: 'apt-get install openjdk-11-dbg' is not working. what i am supposed to do?
[16:13] <oerheks> the dbg symbols?
[16:13] <sixwheeledbeast> braindead_: openjdk-11-jre if you are ok with openjdk
[16:14] <oerheks> look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages for the howto
[16:14] <oerheks> interesting why you need dbg
[16:14] <braindead_> sudo apt install openjdk-11-jre isnt working either on my side, sixwheeledbeast
[16:14] <braindead_> that was probably a mistake of mine oerheks
[16:15] <sixwheeledbeast> isn't working how?
[16:15] <braindead_> https://pastebin.com/8bn0pQyM
[16:16] <oerheks> sorry, no JS enabled, use paste.ubuntu.com please
[16:16] <braindead_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bxfnKsBzWR/
[16:16] <sixwheeledbeast> that's not what I typed
[16:17] <braindead_> same for openjdk-11-jre
[16:17] <braindead_> i also tried the suggested 'oracle-java11-installer-local'
[16:18] <sixwheeledbeast> root@user and your calling sudo ?
[16:19] <braindead_> its a lxc thats why i am root. normally on ubunutu i need to sudo all the time so it was just muscle memory
[16:19] <braindead_> but it is not changing the output
[16:19] <eelstrebor> whenever i run bleachbit my free memory drops to 1% (approx 320 MB) - anyone know why? i have 32 GB of memory
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> knik: what kind of harddisk in your system?
[16:21] <knik> Its a Toshiba OCZ TR200
[16:21] <knik> 140gb
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> knik: sata or nvme/m2 ?
[16:22] <knik> This is the what happends - https://i.imgur.com/6OAoABP.jpg
[16:22] <knik> sata
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> knik: didnt you say you reach till partitioning screen?
[16:23] <knik> no, never reach there. I press Install Ubuntu and the installation processes just starts.
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> knik: ah, did you try nomodeset?
[16:24] <knik> No, Ill try that straight away
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | knik
[16:24] <braindead_> anybody has a ubuntu 18.04 test vm or lxc and want to test to install java there?
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> knik: at boot logo, try also F1 for textboot, see where it hangs for errors
[16:24] <oerheks> knik, looks oke, let it go , and it might take some time.. sata1 hdd, lower speed than new machines.
[16:25] <oerheks> braindead_,  you should have mentioned lxc with your first question
[16:25] <oerheks> !lxc
[16:26] <braindead_> oerheks thats the issue you say?
[16:26] <oerheks> different approach than a desktop/server, sure
[16:27] <braindead_> ok, i wasnt aware of that. i
[16:27] <braindead_> 'll test it on a vm then
[16:28] <oerheks> export http_proxy=http://proxy:3128 //     export https_proxy=https://proxy:3128 // first  ...  https://www.unix.com/proxy-server/254132-installation-jdk-lxc-container-host-behind-proxy.html
[16:45] <BernardoSilva> I was trying to increase my partition size with Gparted, but I got a black screen and the process of moving the partition failed. Now I can't boot to Ubuntu and have no idea how to solve this. What is the best way to start finding a fix?
[16:46] <ducasse> BernardoSilva: repartition and restore from backup
[16:47] <BernardoSilva> I'm not sure if I have a backup. I'm currently on a live USB boot, how do I check that?
[16:50] <oerheks> if you have no backup of your data, it is not important; re-install.  btw, did you run gparted from the installed system, and tried to edit partitions in use?
[16:52] <BernardoSilva> I ran gparted from the live usb. I needed to shrink windows partition (that was before the ubuntu partition) and move back the ubuntu one. I have tried to re-install but I get a warning saying there is no EFI partition and, when I create one, I get another warning saying that two file systems have the same mout point (windows efi and this new efi I
[16:52] <BernardoSilva> created)
[16:54] <definity> Hi, I'm trying to use a specific interface for Dynamic DNS from Dynu.com and I am using DDClient. So far I juwt uses WLAN0 for everything even if I specifiy an interface to ppp0 it still only uses the WLAN0 interface. How can I change this?
[16:54] <oerheks> BernardoSilva, oke, with UEFI, i would let windows itself do the shrinking.
[16:57] <BernardoSilva> oerheks The shrinking itself was successful, I think it was when moving Ubuntu partition that the screen went to sleep mode and I couldn't wake it so I had to force quit
[16:59] <BernardoSilva> Gparted is showing some warnings on all windows partitions, should I try to fix that or is it normal?They mostly say gparted was unable to read file system
[17:03] <pavlos> definity: ddclient has nothing to do with interfaces, whatever network is up, this is what it will use. https://www.dynu.com/DynamicDNS/IPUpdateClient/DDClient
[17:05] <knik> Im doing the install with nomodeset and get one error so far: drm:radeon_init - No UMS Support in radeon module. The screen was black with only a cursor on there sometimes. After this, I got to this screen again (Still havent been able to get to a partitioning screen)(https://i.imgur.com/qXEFBSu.png). When I press Live Session User the computer
[17:05] <knik> reboots and I get back to the Live Session User screen. Stuck in a circle. lotuspsychje
[17:06] <oerheks> knik,  i think, looking at the specs, your videocard is way too old for ubuntu ( gnome3).. try a lighter version, xubuntu or lubuntu
[17:07] <knik> Okay, I will try that. Thanks oerheks
[17:07] <definity> pavlos: Oh thanks. I 2 have 2 connections to the internet but it is only showing up for 1 of them which is why i asked.
[17:09] <sixwheeledbeast> knik: maybe ubuntu-mate
[17:11] <sixwheeledbeast> wiki pages show that laptop worked fine with ubuntu back in 2007
[17:11] <sixwheeledbeast> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Old/HPCompaq8510p
[17:12] <oerheks> that was the gnome2 era ..
[17:13] <sixwheeledbeast> hence me suggesting mate
[17:13] <sixwheeledbeast> i know a lots changed
[17:14] <oerheks> surely ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 is not going to do 3d effects and youtube
[17:37] <omega_doom> why if i change a language layout with setxkbmap then i cannot return it back again by language toggle button?
[17:44] <gordonjcp> hi, in network manager is there a way to get it to ignore wifi networks if it's already got mobile data?
[17:44] <gordonjcp> it's doing my nut in that my laptop keeps trying to jump onto the "free wifi" at the cafe across the road when I'm using 4G
[17:47] <sixwheeledbeast> You can set priority for network connections AFAIK
[18:26] <v_lens> Hey everybody !! Anyone available for a little help regarding installing ubuntu ? Its a little brief help it wont take over 1 minute or 2 !! :)
[18:26] <kostkon> !ask
[18:26] <v_lens> ok !!
[18:26] <v_lens> so
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> v_lens: keep the question in one line
[18:28] <omega_doom> no one can answer ny question? I have found a workaround. Copy symbols to type setxkbmap us. But why is it not possible to change layout after setxkbmap?
[18:28] <v_lens> I have made a bootable usb with ubuntu... i want to install it side by side with windows 10 and make the system dual boot. By getting inside Ubuntu from the usb and trying installing through the desktop icon is it possible ? I mean it has the option partition . Make a partition of 40gb and install it in it ! will that make it dual boot ?
[18:29] <sixwheeledbeast> !dualboot
[18:30] <v_lens> so i get its not as easy as it seemed to me !
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> v_lens: do you have enough free partiton space outside windows?
[18:31] <v_lens> my windows 10 disk has no other partition yet. but it has 140 gb free
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> v_lens: when the installer wants to partition, select 'other', so you can choose how much space to choose ... make sure you don't erase active partition
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> how much space to use*
[18:37] <v_lens> so MonkeyDust i choose other , make a 40gb partition or more and the thing is dual boot or should i read the full guide.i m not boring reading it ! Just saying
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> v_lens: 40gb should be enough for a basic installation
[18:39] <PeGaSuS> ......
[18:39] <v_lens> Ok !! Thanks a lot !
[18:40] <PeGaSuS> oops. sorry, but my daughter decided to say she's here too :D
[18:41] <PeGaSuS> Ubuntu needs half of the disk space required by Windows to install the normal system. 40Gb is pretty good
[18:41] <v_lens> thanks pegasus !
[18:43] <PeGaSuS> v_lens: but I'd advise you to make a new disk partition using Windows disk management and then install Ubuntu in said partition
[18:43] <PeGaSuS> some people say that using the "install along with Windows" isn't advisable
[18:47] <v_lens> ok i will do that for sure !!
[18:48] <v_lens> you are very helpful !
[18:54] <sammyg1321> Hello guys, i have a question, i installed my NVIDIA 710 graphics card and the drivers from the Additional Drivers tab but i was playing teewords and its running horrbily, is there any way i can reinstall the driver from scratch?
[18:58] <Croran> What's the best way to get these UFW BLOCK messages out of my dmesg?
[18:59] <OmegaRidley> I'm trying the 20.04 beta image from Friday, and after I install the ubuntu-restricted-extras repository, I can't login back from the login screen anymore. I could confirm that it starts happening after I install that package. Anyone knows if that is a known issue already?
[19:00] <Croran> sammyg1421: use apt purge to remove the relevant packages and then reinstall from Additional Drivers.
[19:00] <OmegaRidley> *package, not repository
[19:00] <calamari> Croran: Wish I knew that too! I ended up having to add this alias to shut it up, but it wasn't really satisfying: alias dmesg='dmesg | grep -v "UFW BLOCK"'
[19:01] <sammyg1321> so for reinstalling do i just do like go back to NOVEAU Drivers and then back to NVIDIA? @Croran
[19:01] <sammyg1321> @Croran, because i typed purge but again im not sure im doing this right
[19:02] <sammyg1321> Can i do it with a package manager like synaptics?
[19:02] <Croran> calamari: thats fine but eventually your dmesg 'fills up' and then your grep -v will give you a blank screen
[19:02] <Croran> sammyg1321: well... you have to 'sudo apt purge <space-separated list of relevant packages>'
[19:03] <Croran> sammyg1321: you might try 'sudo dpkg --list | grep nvidia' to find the relevant packages
[19:03] <calamari> Croran: Correct. It's not really the correct answer, but it works for a while
[19:03] <sammyg1321> +1 il try that @Croran but again with Synaptics would that be the same thing then apt-purge
[19:04] <Croran> sammyg1421: synaptics? oh you're talking about synaptic package manager. synaptics is a touch pad.
[19:04] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | OmegaRidley
[19:04] <Croran> sammyg1321: I think you can use synaptic to purge... not really sure.
[19:04] <sammyg1321> sounds good gonna look at it now thanks il be back inn a few
[19:06] <calamari> sammyg1321: In synaptic you can mark the packages for complete removal. Note that it won't mark dependencies that it's removing that way, so you'll have to go Custom Filters > Marked Changes to re-mark those as Complete Removal too.
[19:07] <sammyg1321> @calamari, amazing, so they have all been removed from what i can see, i assume a reboot is in order with the Nouveau driver this time before reinstall?
[19:07] <Croran> also 'sudo dpkg list | grep ^i | grep nvidia' will give you only the installed packages
[19:08] <Croran> sammyg1321: eh. I'm always skeptical as to the need for reboots. that's a windows thing.
[19:08] <luna_> sent some more suggestions for translations in the ubuntu-wallpaper-2004 package
[19:08] <sammyg1321> so just reinstall right away?
[19:08] <sammyg1321> @Croran,
[19:08] <Croran> sammyg1321: i would. if you want to restart anything, maybe restart X after you install the new driver.
[19:08] <calamari> sammyg1321: You can also remove then in the normal way with Synaptic, and then go to Status > Not install (residual config) and mark those for Complete Removal after the fact
[19:09] <Croran> sammyg1321: just ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to a tty and then sudo service gdm restart if you want to restart X
[19:10] <sammyg1321> jsut gonna check residual config really quickly @calamari @Croran and yea i wont reboot if i dont need to, will likely reinstall and then reboot once everything is done
[19:10] <calamari> sammyg1321: If you're just experimentally removing a package to see if it will solve a problem, I wouldn't purge it, because you lose settings
[19:10] <Croran> calamari: those settings could be a source of a problem though.
[19:11] <calamari> Perhaps
[19:11] <sammyg1321> @Croran, @calamari nothing left in residual so im gonna now re-fire the driver
[19:11] <sammyg1321> i assume the 435 is our best bet right?
[19:11] <Croran> sammyg1321: another thing to consider here is which version of nvidia you're running. personally i've encountered issues with certain versions of the ubuntu/nvidia proprietary package
[19:11] <Croran> personally, I've settled on 435, yeah.
[19:12] <Croran> it's weird how 'additional drivers' says that some of the nvidia-driver-xxx versions are 'open source'. buggy.
[19:12] <sammyg1321> @Croran, so weird
[19:12] <calamari> I guess I'm downlevel, 396 here haha
[19:13] <sammyg1321> lol
[19:13] <sammyg1321> Well its installing now, lets see what happens haha
[19:16] <Croran> I'm running a gtx 780 so people with newer cards may require newer drivers.
[19:16] <sammyg1321> @Croran, i have a 710 but idk what driver it needs even if i have a few options
[19:16] <sammyg1321> @Croran, btw i cant switch to tty not sure why to restart gdm
[19:17] <Croran> sammyg1321: you probably need to restart gdm to have a new driver take effect.
[19:17] <Croran> sammyg1321: might be ctrl+shift+f1
[19:17] <oft_gegong> or go to a virtual terminal with CTRL+ALT+F1-8 and go "sudo systemctl restart gdm"
[19:18] <oft_gegong> sammyg1321, ^
[19:18] <Croran> sammyg1321: this is assuming you're running Ubuntu, not kubuntu or some such.
[19:18] <sammyg1321> yea no running ubuntu
[19:18] <sammyg1321> yea not sure why its not working to get into tty
[19:18] <Croran> sammyg1321: does your keyboard have function key replacements?
[19:18] <Croran> sammyg1321: might need 'function lock' on
[19:18] <sammyg1321> you arent wrong ;)
[19:18] <sammyg1321> br
[19:18] <sammyg1321> br
[19:18] <sammyg1321> brb
[19:19] <sammyg1321> i dont get a terminal its so odd
[19:19] <sammyg1321> i just get my lock screen
[19:20] <Croran> sammyg1321: technically i think you can run 'sudo service gdm restart' from your gnome terminal window...
[19:20] <sammyg1321> lemme test
[19:20] <Croran> lol
[19:21] <sammyg1321> Alright im back
[19:21] <sammyg1321> Gonna test with tee worlds and see how it turns out
[19:21] <Croran> nice. what's tee worlds?
[19:22] <luna_> a game
[19:22] <luna_> 2d shooting game
[19:22] <sammyg1321> a game hahah
[19:22] <sammyg1321> MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER
[19:22] <sammyg1321> before it was constantly cutting off idk why
[19:22] <Croran> nice
[19:23] <Croran> why do you like tee worlds?
[19:23] <sammyg1321> basic game, had a few buddies before and it was fun to play @Croran
[19:23] <Croran> cool. i'd never heard of it.
[19:23] <sammyg1321> with quarantine its super fun and fast pace
[19:23] <oft_gegong> sammyg1321, does it have active servers though with the latest version?
[19:23] <sammyg1321> Id say its pretty active @oft_gegong
[19:24] <sammyg1321> Maybe not your Fortnight server hahah but still its pretty strong
[19:24] <sammyg1321> @Croran, you can grab it from the ubuntu store, its free :D
[19:24] <sammyg1321> but yea the weird thing, before reinstalling ubuntu from scratch, no problems, after, it had already preloaded those drivers already in by the looks of i t
[19:24] <sammyg1321> so i think it needed that to put it in the works again
[19:24] <Croran> afraid my wrists won't handle another twitch game. lol.
[19:25] <sammyg1321> @Croran, oh nooo :/ sorry about that
[19:25] <Croran> np :)
[19:25] <sammyg1321> but yea thats the thing with my graphics card
[19:26] <sammyg1321> again not sure why
[19:26] <sammyg1321> I really appreciate it though, thanks a mill guys :D
[19:26] <Croran> yeah ubuntu/nvidia has been crazy since they deprecated the official nvidia installer
[19:26] <Croran> you're welcome
[19:26] <oerheks> Nvidia is fine.
[19:26] <billythekid123> hello
[19:26] <sammyg1321> but why did they do that? i remember when it was around and it was super easy
[19:26] <sammyg1321> Hello
[19:26] <sammyg1321> now i mean its still easy
[19:26] <billythekid123> I just upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 beta. I checked the installed snaps and noticed that both gnome-3-28-1804 and gnome-3-34-1804 are installed so I tried to remove the 3.28. After doing that all snaps stopped working. Reinstalling it makes everything work. Any idea what this is?
[19:27] <oerheks> billythekid123,  join #ubuntu+1 until release
[19:27] <sammyg1321> but i dont understand why my graphics card would just not work despite it saying "INSTALLED" with the xServe program
[19:27] <Croran> sammyg1321: not sure. i read about it once, but i forget.
[19:27] <billythekid123> thank you!
[19:27] <sammyg1321> interesting, @Croran will have to do some research but again hopefully it will be a-ok this time haha
[19:27] <sammyg1321> gonna do some more tests to ensure its stable
[19:31] <sammyg1321> @Croran, yea still pretty laggy, not too sure why, i have discord and tee worlds running and its skipping frames like no tomorrow
[19:32] <oft_gegong> sammyg1321, do a "ps aux" and see what's hogging the CPU
[19:32] <Croran> sammyg1321: check all your hardware temps with lm-sensors/psensor, and then try adjusting your cpu throttling to 'performance' mode.
[19:32] <sammyg1321> yea il check that
[19:33] <sammyg1321> Sensors look A-OK and its already on performance mode
[19:33] <sammyg1321> seems like gnome is taking quite the bite though
[19:34] <sammyg1321> would running another environment like Lubuntu make any difference?
[19:36] <Croran> sammyg1321: yeah if gnome is using too much cpu time you could try an alternate DE/WM. xfce is pretty easy and simple to try.]
[19:36] <sammyg1321> @Croran, gonna test that, and you recommend XFCE more?
[19:36] <Croran> sammyg1321: if you have more experience with LXDE then you should probably use that.
[19:37] <Croran> sammyg1321: xfce+awn is my second favorite behind unity.
[19:37] <sammyg1321> i dont think it will make much of a difference heh but imma look at both and see which are more asthetically pleasing and AWN? @Croran
[19:37] <Croran> sammyg1321: awn is a dock
[19:37] <Groar> Croran: do you prefer unity over gnome shell?
[19:37] <Croran> 'avant window navigator' or something.
[19:37] <Croran> groar: absolutely
[19:38] <sammyg1321> OHH
[19:39] <sammyg1321> -facepalm @Croran my bad, my linux knowledge is forsure not as extensive as windows heg
[19:39] <Groar> to be honest, I see no differences between them
[19:39] <Croran> groar: https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-think-about-Canonical-replacing-Unity-with-Gnome-in-Ubuntu-18-04/answer/Daniel-Brown-1088
[19:40] <Croran> groar: gave it a shot when i upgraded to 18.04. it has some big regressions compared to Unity.
[19:40] <oerheks> guys, this is not the chat channel, only technical support.
[19:41] <sammyg1321> #ubuntu-general?
[19:41] <oerheks> -offtopic or -discuss preferrably
[19:41] <sammyg1321> +1 thank
[19:42] <Groar> just joined offtopic
[19:43] <sammyg1321> is it #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:44] <coz_> gryes
[19:44] <coz_> yes
[19:52] <lmat> I used   apt-get install libpng-dev; to help build a package. What package do I need to use to run it? It looks like there is no apt-get install libpng; ?
[19:53] <lmat> That's one package, but there are many other in the same story: https://paste.rs/ZMO
[19:53] <oerheks> one does not run it; use the build wiki, for compiling howto
[19:53] <oerheks> !build
[19:53] <lmat> I tried just removid -dev from each (because I don't need the development dependencies, I need the runtime dependencies)
[19:54] <oerheks> oh, -dev is for building.
[19:54] <lmat> s/removid/removing/
[19:54] <oerheks> libpng in launchpad
[19:54] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/libpng/+packages
[19:54] <oerheks> and for that list of errors, what package are you trying to run?
[19:55] <lmat> oerheks: You showe me the libpng package, but what does "E: Unable to locate package libpng" mean from apt-get?
[19:59] <oerheks> !find libpng bionic
[20:00] <oerheks> libpng16-16 it is
[20:00]  * lmat sigh
[20:00] <lmat> So I have to go through this guesswork for each package?
[20:02] <oerheks> lmat, dunno, what package are you testing?
[20:03] <oerheks> does it come with a dependencie list?
[20:03] <lmat> oerheks: I'm building minetest server in a docker image, then running it in a different docker image.
[20:04] <oerheks> oh, nothing to do with ubuntu support then
[20:06] <lmat> I'm not sure how you define ubuntu support, but I'm having trouble running something with ubuntu.
[20:07] <oerheks> well, we do support packages in our repos, but docker and your minecraft server is not in it.
[20:08] <oerheks> you should have mentioned docker with the first question.
[20:15] <lmat> oerheks: Yet you were able to help me without knowing anything about docker or minetest! \o/  It really is an ubuntu question: "What ubuntu package is the "non-dev" version of libpng-dev?"
[20:16] <lmat> I don't think it matters whether I'm developing a vaccine for COVID-19, solving world hunger, or making a pornography website, right?
[20:16] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | lmat
[20:16] <lmat> I'm asking about ubuntu's packaging certain packages. Anyway, thank you very much for pointing me to the solution!
[20:17] <pavlos> lmat: it could be libpng16-16
[20:19] <lmat> pavlos: I wish it was as simple as   "use libpng-dev to compile, use libpng to run" :-) I suppose it will be a bit more work to find the run-time versions of these other 10 packages, too!
[20:21] <oerheks> normally a package like minecraft server pulls that in. so, you are on your own, manually.
[20:22] <lmat> oerheks: Makes sense. Oh yeah, I guess I can take a look at the deps of the minetest-server package...if there is one. Thanks for that!
[20:22] <oerheks> your errorlist gives a clue :-)
[20:23] <oerheks> btw, synaptic is a fine detailed softwarecenter, usable for such search tasks
[20:23] <oerheks> !info synaptic
[20:23] <calamari> lmat: If you want to find out which package contains a specific file, you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/  Scroll down to "Search the contents of packages"
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> lmat: packages that start with "lib*" are not programs that you can execute manually. They are runtime libraries with capabilities for other applications to use.
[20:23] <BarnabasDK> is it this one ? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libpng16-16
[20:24] <BarnabasDK> if you are compiling you want the dev package though
[20:25] <lmat> BarnabasDK: The whole compilation is complete and good. I'm trying to figure out what is needed for running. I tried installing all the same packages but with out "-dev", but it didn't work.  https://paste.rs/ZMO
[20:26] <BarnabasDK> the std packages on ubuntu will drag in the regular package for any -dev pkg in my experience
[20:26] <lmat> pragmaticenigma: Yes, I understand that.
[20:26] <BarnabasDK> say libjpeg
[20:26] <lmat> BarnabasDK: So maybe I should look at the deps for libjpeg-dev to find libjpeg (or its equivalent)?
[20:27] <pragmaticenigma> lmat: since libpng is included by default in official Ubuntu distributions. There should be no need to compile it yourself, and compiling it yourself may still be overridden the version that should already be installed. If libpng isn't there, then I would assume that you are not using an official Ubuntu distribution, therefore you are in the wrong place to be asking for help. The volunteers here rely on documentation for the
[20:27] <pragmaticenigma> officially released flavors of Ubuntu. Docker images are not officially released by Canonical or Ubuntu. They will come with highly customized environments and you are encouraged to reach out to the group of developers responsible for it's creation.
[20:27] <BarnabasDK> if you install libjpeg-dev that will also be installed
[20:28] <lmat> pragmaticenigma: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not compiling libpng. I'm trying to install libpng so that my program will work. I compiled my program with libpng-dev. I think I'll be okay now. If I have any more ubuntu problems, I'll let you know!
[20:28] <lmat> BarnabasDK: cool, thanks!
[20:32] <BarnabasDK> lmat, that only goes for libs in the supported packages though
[20:33] <BarnabasDK> that is the ones in the std libs
[20:33] <BarnabasDK> for ubuntu
[20:33] <lmat> BarnabasDK: When you say std libs, I think of C++ standard library :-) Supported packages are lib* packages in official ubuntu repositories?
[20:33] <BarnabasDK> the ones in the official ubuntu reps
[20:34] <BarnabasDK> outside that ppl may do all kinds of hokus pokus
[20:34] <lmat> Of course.
[20:36] <lmat> You know, I think my big hang up is these version numbers in the package names. I keep thinking "libpng16-16!? What are these version numbers for? Just give me the latest one." But that must be from my experience with archlinux, and doesn't make sense in a debian world. Thanks again for all your help!
[20:38] <BarnabasDK> no some of the pkg names is a bit wierd
[20:38] <BarnabasDK> something-16
[20:38] <BarnabasDK> also available in 32 bit
[20:38] <oerheks> it must be an interesting story, libpng and their naming convention
[20:39] <BarnabasDK> maybe they just do not have one
[20:45] <lmat> BarnabasDK: Up and running minetest in docker now, thanks! I used your suggestion. Since I had all the compilation dependencies handy, I typed them into the URL here https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lib...-dev   then looked at the first dependency of that -dev package. Worked really well, thanks!
[20:45] <omega_doom> I will try to ask differently. What is the different between setxkbmap lang and language switching by panel?
[20:46] <omega_doom> difference
[21:00] <BarnabasDK> lmat super
[21:05] <omega_doom> Looks like i have found the problem. Does it mean when i type setxkbmap fr that only french layout will be available?
[21:06] <ducasse> yes, use setxkbmap -layout fr,us to have both available
[21:12] <omega_doom> Is it possible to switch to other language input from command line?
[21:20] <ducasse> see 'man xkeyboard-config' to see how to switch by keyboard shortcut
[21:30] <afatchickennugge> i need help
[21:32] <afatchickennugge> my dad is an evil demon who blocked youtube on the entire computer and i dont know how to fix it
[21:32] <afatchickennugge>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER afatchickennugge pavzenpdvtdx
[21:42] <sixwheeledbeast> oops
[21:44] <r3dux> Hello, I have noticed when using i3 on my laptops battery power the mouse starts to get glitchy and slows down. I am on ubuntu 19.10, everything works fine in gnome (wayland) with no issues as well as inside of i3wm with the machine plugged in. But, as soon at it is unplugged from power the trackpad AND bluetooth mouse start to get slow and glitchy... what could be causing this?
[21:45] <matsaman> r3dux: could be GNOME's power manager software has it configured the way you want on top of the defaults (which perhaps are not what you want)
[21:46] <barnex> hello, which package from this ppa (https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa) should be used for: "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1)"?
[21:47] <matsaman> r3dux: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=209911 (2016) blames a kernel version
[21:48] <r3dux> matsaman: I think you could be right. I am using gnomes power-manager inside of GNOME (obviously) and xfce4-power-manager inside of i3.
[21:49] <r3dux> Is there a way to turn off gnomes powermanager while in an i3 session but keep it while in a gnome (wayland) session?
[21:50] <matsaman> barnex: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 maybe
[21:50] <matsaman> barnex: that is: <=391.35
[21:51] <r3dux> Alos, I am running jake day's linux kernel for surface devices... it has worked great, it seems this issue has just come out of nowhere, I thought it was maybe from installing and configuring xfce4-power-manager but even if i disable it I still am getting major trackpad and mouse lag
[21:52] <matsaman> r3dux: but if you switch to GNOME it's fine?
[21:54] <r3dux> exactly, perfectly fine... also, when the machine is plugged in to power it is perfectly fine. When I un-plug it it lags hard for a minute or two than speed up to roughly 70% funtionality... I mean it works, but there is very noticable lag that would make you not want to use the mouse or trackpad at all. If you slide you finger across the trackpad the mouse will dissappear for a seccond and
[21:54] <r3dux> reappear at the other side of the screen
[21:54] <matsaman> weird
[21:54] <matsaman> but probably just a power saving feature that gnome is overriding
[21:55] <matsaman> figure out if your touchpad is usb based or something else
[21:55] <matsaman> then look at disabling the power saving features for that connection
[21:55] <matsaman> and for bluetooth / peripherals
[21:55] <r3dux> how would i go about doing that?
[21:55] <matsaman> or if you're going to keep having gnome installed, maybe just get its power manager going from i3
[21:56] <r3dux> in xinput my trackpad is simply called Mirosoft Surface Keyboard Touchpad
[21:56] <r3dux> get its power manager going from i3? sorry, I don't understand.
[21:57] <matsaman> r3dux: cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep -i pad
[21:58] <matsaman> GNOME's power manager is just software like everything else; you can have it running while you're using i3. The only issue would be if you plan on removing GNOME
[22:00] <r3dux> I have been unable to figure out how to power gnomes powermanager inside of i3... which is why i grabbed xfce4-power-manager... do you know what it is called? the only thing power related rofi pulles up is gnome-power-statistics but it doesn't open inside of i3
[22:02] <r3dux> cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep -i pad returns 'Name="Microsoft Keyboard Touchpad"'
[22:03] <matsaman> r3dux: maybe if you apt-get install tlp, you can use this stuff: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/touchpad-is-only-working-when-the-laptop-is-connected-to-a-charger/78453/3
[22:07] <r3dux> I am already using tlp... I keep finding other accounts of people saying that their trackpad doesnt work while plugged in or not plugged in... mine works, just really really bad. As if it is under some extreme load or something which its obviously not.
[22:08] <matsaman> while plugged in is a worse problem, IMO
[22:09] <matsaman> a grounding problem, I have heard, for example
[22:09] <matsaman> yours is a configuration issue only
[22:10] <r3dux> I agree, can I run tlp persistent default setting from the terminal to test it? If so, do you know the command?
[22:11] <r3dux> I'm reading the link you sent.. it looks like someone suggested that but it looks like it is a line that is supposed to be added to a config of some sort.
[22:12] <r3dux> I just plugged into power and IMMEDIATELY it works better... I definatley think that you are on the right track. Boy would I love to solve this
[22:16] <r3dux> matsaman: I changed the TLP_PERSISTENT_DEFAULT=0 to 1 in /etc/default/tlp and it didn't seem to have any effect...
[22:16] <matsaman> r3dux: the one I linked suggested changing the value and restarting the service, IIRC
[22:17] <matsaman> the tlp service
[22:17] <r3dux> after I changed the line I did "sudo systemctl disable tlp" followed by "sudo systemctl enable tlp"
[22:17] <r3dux> am I missing something?
[22:19] <r3dux> sudo tlp start returns "TLP started in AC mode" even though its un-plugged at the moment so I am gussing that I did it right... but the issue persist. Same thing, glitchy on battery and smooth as soon as its plugged it.
[22:20] <r3dux> Unless I am doing something wrong..
[22:31] <r3dux> matsman: I just tried a reboot to make sure that tlp services were being restarted and the problem still persist... now that I am paying attention to it its not just performance of the trackpad, scrolling long configs in vim using the keyboard are also laggy on battery power.
[22:32] <r3dux> matsaman: At least now I am sure that it is software related as it immediatley starts working better within 1 second of being plugged into power... just need to figure out what is causing this and how to go about correcting it.
[22:33] <eelstrebor> whenever i run bleachbit my free memory drops to 1% (approx 320 MB) - anyone know why? i have 32 GB of memory
[22:35] <rfm> eelstrebor, read and write a lot, the buffer cache will fill up.  that's what it's for.  free memory is idle memory not doing you any good.
[22:40] <john__> \quit
[22:45] <john__> hello! Firefox is returning the error "libGL error: failed to load driver: radeon
[22:46] <john__> " on ubuntu (sorry for multiple lines) can someone point me towards a solution?
[22:54] <r3dux> john: have you tried updating your drivers?
[22:56] <r3dux> john: press super (windows key) type drivers and hit enter, it should take you to where you can install and select drivers for your GPU, it should scan and reccomend the availble drivers for your system by itself.
[22:59] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: suggest that you only check things that you actually need to clean, and make sure you do not have anything checked under the "System" category. if you didn't notice "memory" is one of the items in there and bleechbit will try to fill RAM with bogus data to attempt to "clean" it
[22:59] <BobParr> Hi all - looking to get some help for an issue. I fresh-installed MATE 20.04 and after trying to get some DVD's to play, I get "error:0 in libdvdnav.so.4.2.0" in syslog. I'm not sure where I start in troubleshooting this
[22:59] <Bashing-om> john__: The radeon driver is in the kernel. Is this module loaded: sudo lshw -C display ; lsmod | grep radeon ' ?
[23:00] <Bashing-om> !20.04 | BobParr
[23:00] <BobParr> ok, thanks!
[23:30] <john__> Bashing-om: thanks for the reply! I've made a note, and I'll find out in the morning
[23:45] <scatterp> hi i am trying to work out a larger problem but managed to simplify it down to i cant connect to 443 on a virtual machine i have running so i have on sudo netstat -plant a line suggesting nginx is listening on 443 0.0.0.0 but i can not make a connection to it i think a firewall is causing issues or something random how can i debug this ?