[01:00] <CarlFK89> bunch of warnings - works but is alarming: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rpP8dV3Jmj/
[01:01] <CarlFK89> if someone will give me a package name, I'll bug it 
[01:08] <valorie> CarlFK89: is this part of an upgrade to 20.04 beta or so?
[01:10] <valorie> if so, the installer’s packagename is ubiquity
[01:10] <valorie> so `ubuntu-bug ubiquity`
[01:10] <valorie> my most used command while testing ISOs
[01:10] <valorie> :-)
[01:11] <valorie> personally I wouldn't worry about warnings
[01:34] <CarlFK> valorie: installed fresh 2 days ago, did an apt upgrade just now, got the warnings. 
[01:34] <valorie> ok, not the installer then
[01:34] <CarlFK> and wifi on that box is flaky (what I am really trying to debug)
[01:34] <valorie> I would ignore the warnings
[01:35] <valorie> wifi flakiness is hard to pin down, for sure
[01:35] <valorie> so many parts between you and the raw connection
[01:38] <CarlFK90> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J82GSq2twR/
[01:38] <CarlFK90> T[ 1310.403307] wlo1: deauthenticated from 78:8a:20:51:ba:e9 (Reason: 6=CLASS2_FRAME_FROM_NONAUTH_STA)
[01:39] <CarlFK90> doesn't seem to happen with cosmic 
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:01] <CarlFK> when wifi drops, webchat drops.  I get wifi connected, hit webchat "reconnect" and it says "connecting" forever.  reloading the page lets me reconnect. 
[02:01] <CarlFK> is that a ubuntu thing or a webchat thing ?
[02:26] <CarlFK> how do I disable the screen saver? 
[02:27] <CarlFK> Privacy 
[04:22] <valorie> webchat is a freenode "thing"
[04:23] <valorie> although other irc networks offer it as well
[04:23] <valorie> kde webchat is actually using riot.im
[04:24] <valorie> imo webchat is ..... less than ideal
[04:24] <lestac> what do you think about hexchat
[04:26] <valorie> I don't like it, but then I love konversation
[04:26] <valorie> my most-used KDE application
[09:58] <georgelappies> hi friends
[09:58] <georgelappies> I picked up a bug in SSH in 20.04
[09:59] <georgelappies> would really like to use it on release but with bug will not be able to
[09:59] <georgelappies> is this right place to discuss?
[10:03] <pmjdebruijn> why not give a short summary
[10:07] <georgelappies> Basically, when trying to login to a SSH server (server is 18.04) with stored SSH keys, authentication keeps on failing when using 20.04 and it keeps on asking for the password. When the client is also 18.04 then the keys are sent and accepted correctly and seamlessly.
[10:08] <georgelappies> I tried setting the permissions on the key files to 600 - no go, 700 - no go, 755 no-go, 777 - no go
[10:09] <georgelappies> this is especially a problem with signing into Gitlab via SSH as authentication between the client using 20.04 and server using 18.04 fails
[10:09] <georgelappies> but as I said, when using 18.04 client, all works 100%
[10:36] <pmjdebruijn> did you try to connect with ssh -vvv
[10:36] <pmjdebruijn> to see what's going wrong?
[10:38] <georgelappies> I did yes, it fails when passing the rsa key (it hangs on it for a second or so and then continues looking for other encryption keys to use, of which there are not any, then it falls back to password as last option
[10:38] <georgelappies> it doesn't give a reason for the fail
[10:38] <georgelappies> just skips it after a short period
[10:39] <georgelappies> so it is doing something with the key, but that something is not working
[10:42] <pmjdebruijn> georgelappies: how big is your rsa key?
[10:52] <pmjdebruijn> georgelappies: you might just be running into security hardening from a new ssh version (which unrelated to ubuntu 20.04 specifically)
[10:54] <pmjdebruijn> georgelappies: https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html ssh-rsa support has been removed
[10:54] <pmjdebruijn> so generate new ssh key, and you'll be fine
[10:59]  * pmjdebruijn waits for chromium to start (it's really fun to see an app take 5 seconds to start on an i9 with NVME ssd)
[11:23] <georgelappies> hi @pmjdebruijn I generated new keys using multiple algorithms and key sizes to no avail
[11:23] <georgelappies> let me try again
[11:23] <georgelappies> :)
[11:26] <nicolasbock> Hi! I just installed focal on my laptop using the defaults the partitioning tool suggested. The system has 32 GiB of RAM and 2 GiB of swap. When I `systemctl hibernate` I get `kernel: PM: image no found (code -22)` presumably because `resume` wasn't set in the kernel command line.
[11:27] <nicolasbock> Is that supposed to work out of the box?
[11:27] <nicolasbock> Or are there additional steps a user is supposed to perform?
[11:27] <nicolasbock> Like increase the swap size?
[11:29] <pmjdebruijn> georgelappies: verify you're not just regenerate -sha keys
[11:30] <pmjdebruijn> georgelappies: ssh-keygen -t rsa-sha2-256
[11:33] <georgelappies> thanks sir will do, busy installing 20.04 in vm again 
[11:34] <pmjdebruijn> but it's unlikely a ubuntu 20.04 problem, it more of a new openssh version problem :)
[11:34] <pmjdebruijn> so as all distro switch to openssh 8.2, their users will likely face the same issue
[11:35] <pmjdebruijn> this is the sort of thing that canonical might want to list in their 20.04 release notes though
[11:38] <georgelappies> yeah, everything while testing 20.04 for main distro used daily (java+npm) went so smooth until the checking in of code workflow popped up
[11:42] <pmjdebruijn> yeah testing on a +1 early is generally a great idea
[11:42] <pmjdebruijn> it's saving you some grief already :)
[12:28] <georgelappies> it worked! thanks pmjdebruijn!
[12:32] <pmjdebruijn> yay
[14:57] <feoh> Hi guys. Today's apt update/apt upgrade has resulted in the audio subsystem being super hosed and choppy
[14:58] <feoh> Like, as in when I got into my morning standups people were saying I sounded like I was underwater
[14:58] <feoh> I thought maybe it was Chime so I tried just recording in Audacity and I got the same thing
[15:00] <feoh> I always get super overwhelmed when trying to figure out where to file an issue in Launchpad
[15:07] <feoh> Got it ubuntubug pulseaudio
[15:18] <feoh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1871137
[15:18] <feoh> in case anyone else hits this
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> feoh: you recall after what kind of updates things got borked?
[15:20] <feoh> It wasn't a huge update, just like 10 packages or so
[15:20] <feoh> is there a log somewhere I can look at to get you that information?
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> feoh: check in your dpkg logs yeah
[15:20] <feoh> checking
[15:23] <feoh> Would isolating today's date and then grepping for 'installed' get me that list?
[15:23] <feoh> Otherwise I'm looking at kind of a wall of text in dpkg.log
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> feoh: pastebin it if you like, volunteers can take a look for you
[15:29] <feoh> Added the link as a comment to the bug. Hope that's OK
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> feoh: other then chromium codecs i dont see sound related issues right away
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> feoh: did you test with gnome sound recorder if you can reproduce this?
[15:34] <feoh> Tested with Audacity. Will try with Gnome sound recorder after standup
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[15:34] <feoh> (After 2nd standup. I have too many standups :)
[15:57] <feoh> lotuspsychje: Tried to do what you asked. Attached the binary blob Gnome Sound Recorder shoves in ~/Recordings. Is that what you wanted? The UX on that thing is a challenge :)
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> feoh: can you reproduce it?
[15:58] <feoh> My Mac's firefox browser appears to grok that it's a sound and play it back in all its super chop-tastic glory :)
[15:58] <feoh> Still super choppy if that's what you're asking. You can play the clip for yourself and hear it. Also came across super choppy on my Mac.
[16:01] <feoh> Gotta run. Lunch prep & dog walk :)
[16:47] <ceed^> Hi, I have a laptop where microphone and sound is fully supported in 20.20, but in 19.10 it isn't. How good is the beta now? I really need sound/mic to work. I have run the beta from USB without problems. Will I run into major problems installing it?
[16:48] <ceed^> I did of course mean 20.04 :)
[17:04] <feoh> ceed^ I've had rock solid sound until today's update when it got super choppy so I reported an issue. 
[17:06] <ceed^> feoh: My problem is that mic isn't supported in 19.10 but it is in 20.04. There are also other sound problems with this particular laptop so I would really like to get to 20.04 asap.
[17:08] <feoh> Makes sense.
[17:20] <howarth> I noticed a grub oddity. My internal drive has Ubuntu 19.10 dist-upgraded to 20.04. When I boot, it doesn't show the grub screen as expected from /etc/default/grub's GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden setting. However I installed a second external usb drive from the Ubuntu 20.04 beta installer. That drive always shows the grub boot screen despite having identical settings in /etc/default/grub. Is this due to the internal drive only having the 
[17:20] <howarth>  single boot entry for that drive whereas the external ended up with both the external and internal as boot entries?
[17:20] <howarth> I don't seem that 'behavior' documented anywhere. 
[17:22] <howarth> I assume I might be able to force the external drive to not show it's grub menu by adding GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true and re-executing 'sudo update-grub'
[17:34] <howarth> Okay. I see the difference. On my internal drive which was dist-upgraded from 19.10, I have GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 but on a the clean install on the external drive with 20.04 beta, I have GRUB_TIMEOUT=10.
[17:35] <howarth> I wonder if the GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 is a pre-release thing with Ubuntu that gets changed to GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 for the GM release.
[18:26] <feoh> lotuspsychje: FWIW I ran apt update && apt upgrade again, rebooted, and the sound problem went away. I'll resolve the bug. None of the updated packages seemed sound related. *shrug*
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> cool feoh 
[18:34] <feoh> Is there some way I should annotate this issue to say it appears fixed in the latest update?
[18:34] <feoh> I included a comment to that effect and also included a non choppy recording.
[21:14] <pickledegg> hi, i noticed the ubuntu software center is basically the snap store, thats all great but sometimes i want to install deb files. would it be advised to install both the snap store and the ubuntu software center together, or will that mess my day up?
[21:18] <pickledegg> welcome
[21:18] <pickledegg> i just asked and did the exact same thing as you :P
[21:18] <konam> hi guys, I'm having trouble connecting using an openvpn 
[21:19] <konam> hey pickledegg, lol
[21:19] <pickledegg> konam, same. im using zoog vpn. 
[21:19] <konam> wait, that's why you're here as well? 
[21:19] <pickledegg> i import the ovpn file, but it wont connect?
[21:19] <konam> yep
[21:19] <konam> same boat
[21:19] <pickledegg> well thats one of my issues
[21:19] <pickledegg> i have a couple
[21:20] <konam> funny thing is, i tried kubuntu beta first, but those guys are real screwed. a bunch of issues with the installer.. let me see if i can report them
[21:22] <pickledegg> not used kubuntu, i went from 19.10 about a month ago, ive not had any issues really other than the vpn and i have stretched image thumbnails
[21:24] <pickledegg> seems like theres nobody here but us chickens
[21:28] <konam> yeah, really didn't want to distro hop once more but i need this laptop for work lol
[21:28] <konam> but ubuntu is the distro with the best font rendering, for whatever reason
[21:29] <konam> do you know where they report beta issues?
[21:29] <konam> maybe some have been documented there
[22:10] <pickledegg> has anyone successfully set up an open vpn on 20.04? i cant get any to connect.
[22:13] <valorie> sorry to hear about the Kubuntu issues
[22:13] <valorie> did you link your bug reports on the qatracker?
[22:14] <valorie> it's fine to share in IRC, but that is mostly to get help to see if it is an actual bug, and if so, what packagename the bug should be reported against
[22:15] <valorie> #ubuntu-quality is very busy with people testing, reporting bugs, and fixing some of them
[22:15] <valorie> all flavors
[22:15] <valorie> this is the *most* important time to report bugs, and ensure that they are linked on the qatracker
[22:16] <valorie> pickledegg, konam ^^^
[22:16] <dax> which is at http://ubottu.com/y/ffdaily , in case anyone missed it in the /topic :)
[22:16] <dax> we snuck in the iso.qa URL as the download link this cycle
[22:18] <pickledegg> valorie i cant see @konam's message,they must have left
[22:18] <Kon-> Yes, that person left
[22:23] <valorie> thanks, dax
[22:24] <valorie> so many folks don't bother to look at the topic, after all the care the mods give to crafting it!