[01:07] <callmepk> Good morning
[01:16] <duflu> Hi callmepk 
[01:16] <callmepk> Morning duflu 
[01:17] <jamesh> hi callmepk, duflu 
[01:17] <callmepk> hi jamesh 
[01:18] <RAOF> Hey all.
[01:19] <jamesh> Hi RAOF.  We've got closed borders in WA now too.
[01:20] <pieq> Morning everyone!
[01:21] <pieq> duflu, I can't believe I've spent so much time (1) without BT devices on my laptop and (2) investigating such a simple issue (bug #1869857)
[01:22] <duflu> Hi jamesh, RAOF 
[01:22] <duflu> Hi pieq 
[01:22] <pieq> I still don't unerstand why using bluetoothctl also resulted in a failure when trying to connect the device, but maybe it was pulseaudio getting in the way
[01:28] <duflu> pieq, I've never seen that package go missing before :(
[01:32] <pieq> duflu, super weird. I'm sure it wouldn't happen on a 20.04 beta live (haven't tried though).
[01:33] <pieq> duflu, when running `dist-upgrade` instead of `upgrade`, the difference is that packages/dependencies may be removed, right?
[01:33] <duflu> Although that error was not in the kernel logs attached to the bug. So I'm glad I didn't miss anything
[01:33] <duflu> I don't know
[01:34] <pieq> oh it was not? OK so I'm not entirely crazy... super weird
[01:37] <duflu> I am usually careful in other bugs to ask the user to collect a log during the problem. But I guess I didn't expect this one to actually appear so clearly in a log, or the kernel log
[01:44] <jamesh> "distr-upgrade" can install new packages and remove existing ones, while "upgrade" won't do either of those
[02:03] <pieq> jamesh, thanks for the clarification
[02:04] <pieq> Since I'm testing 20.04 on my laptop(s), I'm using dist-upgrade all the time since things are moving (albeit less than a few weeks ago)
[02:05] <jamesh> I find it's useful to do an "apt upgrade" first, so there is less noise in the "apt full-upgrade" output
[02:05] <jamesh> and I can see if it is going to try and remove ubuntu-desktop, or something else crazy like that
[05:17] <jibel> morning all
[05:20] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[05:20] <duflu> Very morning
[05:22] <jibel> Hi duflu 
[05:30] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Monday!
[05:32] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[05:35] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[06:28] <seb128> Gooood morning desktopers!
[06:29] <didrocks> good morning
[06:30] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va ? bon w.e ?
[06:34] <didrocks> seb128: bon week-end, toujours des rangements de cartons pour le jour où… Et vous ?
[06:38] <seb128> didrocks, bon W.E, ménage de printemps et un peu de rangement, aussi un tour à pieds au parc à côté hier vu qu'il fait beau et que c'est autorisé ici :-)
[06:39] <Wimpress> Morning desktopers o/
[06:39] <jamesh> hi Wimpress, seb128 
[06:40] <seb128> hey jamesh, Wimpress, how are you?
[06:41] <Wimpress> All good here.
[06:41] <jamesh> Good.  My mum has finished her 14 days of mandatory self isolation, so I can no longer use the excuse that it would be illegal to come over and help with her IT problems.
[06:41] <Wimpress> My daughter has taken an interest in cooking since lockdown. 
[06:42] <Wimpress> She just made me pancakes all by herself :-)
[06:45] <didrocks> hey Wimpress 
[06:59] <Wimpress> Morning didrocks 
[07:00] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, didrocks 
[07:00] <oSoMoN> good morning Wimpress, jamesh 
[07:01] <oSoMoN> Wimpress, pancakes, lucky you!
[07:01] <Wimpress> Indeed. Nom nom nom :-)
[07:02] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN !
[07:08] <duflu> Morning seb128 and Wimpress 
[07:08] <duflu> and didrocks 
[07:12] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:32] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, hey duflu, did you have a good w.e?
[07:33] <seb128> duflu, Trevinho, did we regress scaling with 3.36? we received several reports recently, some about int scaling, some about fractionnal, some about nvidia also
[07:34] <duflu> seb128, unclear. There's been a slow trickle of those bugs since 3.35/6 was introduced
[07:34] <duflu> And at least one of them is in Wayland, so not our patch
[07:34] <seb128> some also are without activing the experimental option
[07:35] <duflu> seb128, it was nice to catch up on sleep and get some things done but still not enough time. Really gonna need that 4 day weekend over Easter. You?
[07:35] <duflu> seb128, yeah so Wayland that would be
[07:35] <seb128> duflu, w.e was good but we didn't do much of the nice weather :-/ we got some spring cleaning done though and it was good to relax
[07:36] <duflu> I just went out to check the mail and water some plants. Got a shock it was actually warm still. And over 30 degrees all week
[07:37] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, very good week-end, did a lot of gardening, cleaned the house and had bbq
[07:40] <seb128> oSoMoN, nice, we wanted to do a bbq but they had no coal at the nearby supermarket :-/
[07:57] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:57] <didrocks> good morning marcustomlinson 
[07:58] <marcustomlinson> jamesh: haha, but going to her house would still be considered non-essential travel no? ;)
[08:00] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks how are you?
[08:01] <didrocks> I’m fine, thanks! And you?
[08:02] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson 
[08:02] <Laney> guten morgen
[08:02] <duflu> and morning Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:03] <marcustomlinson> didrocks: yeah tired as usual but pretty good
[08:03] <didrocks> marcustomlinson: you are still on the mend though?
[08:04] <marcustomlinson> my throat and sinuses are STILL sore but otherwise all good now
[08:04] <marcustomlinson> less sore at least, but still lingering
[08:06] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson, Laney 
[08:07] <marcustomlinson> hey oSoMoN
[08:08] <Laney> hey duflu didrocks marcustomlinson oSoMoN 
[08:08] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:15] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, Laney
[08:16] <seb128> duflu, there is no need for us to triage the same bugs :-/
[08:17] <duflu> seb128, the last changes were several minutes ago so I thought you had stopped sorry
[08:17] <duflu> Also it practically never happens
[08:18] <seb128> duflu, right, I'm upstreaming those pulseaudio ones but I'm also thinking about a few that I set incomplete yesterday asking for a journal log and where you come in your day to add another boiler reply asking for an apport-collect
[08:18] <seb128> that's probably confusing for the user to be nagged twice like that 
[08:20] <duflu> Well if that happens for 1 out of the 100 bugs I aim to get through today it's not a big deal
[08:20] <Laney> hey seb128 
[08:21] <Laney> marcustomlinson: going to look at u-m now - while I'm doing that could you turn the bug into a feature freeze exception request please?
[08:21] <Laney> should help it slide in
[08:21] <seb128> duflu, ok, fair enough :)
[08:22] <marcustomlinson> Laney: ok thanks
[08:23] <Laney> did want to look at that at the weekend
[08:23] <Laney> but I couldn't face opening my laptop in the end
[08:23] <Laney> binge watched The Stranger instead
[08:27] <marcustomlinson> Laney: good show :)
[09:01] <seb128> Trevinho, I guess you didn't see my ping a week ago about reviewing the patch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libappindicator/+bug/1867996 ?
[09:02] <seb128> claims it's an invalid g_signal use with a suggested fix
[09:48] <duflu> seb128, BTW this tag is still handy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=xrandr-scaling
[09:49] <seb128> duflu, thanks
[10:02] <seb128> Trevinho, duflu, bug #1867763 is easy to trigger by putting the launcher at the bottom and tweaking the settings in gcc
[10:41] <duflu> seb128, sorry I'm not ignoring you. Just trying to get to EOD...
[10:41] <seb128> duflu, it was just a FYI, doesn't deserve a reply today
[10:42] <seb128> duflu, and yeaj, you should call it a day and go enjoy your evening
[10:47] <duflu> A hundred bugs reviewed. Just to do the status report
[11:01] <seb128> duflu, quite busy time on launchpad reports!
[11:02] <duflu> seb128, yeah and I'm done
[11:02] <duflu> Night
[11:02] <seb128> duflu, night!
[11:04] <seb128> tjaalton, hey, could you get that in Debian ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/472724522/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.9.1-1ubuntu1_1.9.1-1ubuntu2.diff.gz
[11:08] <tjaalton> ok
[11:09] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks
[11:10] <tjaalton> seb128: I see those files though
[11:11] <seb128> tjaalton, you do? weird
[11:11] <tjaalton> they're in git
[11:11] <tjaalton> not on the tarball
[11:11] <seb128> ah
[11:11] <seb128> tjaalton, looks like a merge error from my part then, thanks for pointing that out
[11:12] <tjaalton> np
[11:12] <tjaalton> there's a janitorial upload WIP, I could push that now
[12:35] <tjaalton> ubuntu-software wants to get deinstalled, is that expected?
[12:44] <tjaalton> apt autoremove would uninstall it, I mean
[12:48] <marcustomlinson> tjaalton: yes, ubuntu-software has been replaced with snap-store
[12:48] <seb128> tjaalton, we are transitioning to use snap-store, the update-manager hooks for existing focal users hasn't been merged yet
[12:49] <marcustomlinson> seb128, tjaalton: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=update-manager
[12:50] <seb128> thx
[12:51] <seb128> tseliot, could you look at bug 1870758? Unsure if those 'NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "NULL"' are the issue and if that's wrong changes being asked from the GNOME side or a driver issue?
[13:13] <tseliot> seb128, sure I can have a look this week, as I'm quite busy right now
[13:14] <seb128> tseliot, thanks
[13:19] <tjaalton> ok, does snap-store support flatpaks?
[13:20] <kenvandine> tjaalton: no, just install gnome-software-plugin-flatpak
[13:20] <kenvandine> same as before
[13:20] <kenvandine> then you get gnome-software as well
[13:20] <tjaalton> okay
[13:29] <Saviq> anyone else's fonts went wonky recently?
[13:34] <seb128> Saviq, no, and no report on IRC/launchpad
[13:41] <Saviq> seb128: thanks, I'll try and pinpoint this and report - it's like some fonts got wider somehow
[13:42] <seb128> Saviq, report a bug with journal and screenshot?
[14:04] <ricotz> hello desktopers :)
[14:04] <ricotz> seb128, hi, would be around today to sponsor vala 0.48.3-1?
[14:05] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[14:05] <seb128> ricotz, can do
[14:06] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: heya!
[14:07] <ricotz> seb128, marcustomlinson, hey :), I am good
[14:07] <ricotz> still good as long one can do some exercises outside :)
[14:08] <ricotz> seb128, thanks, vala is in progress now
[14:27] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:27] <didrocks> hey hellsworth 
[14:28] <hellsworth> hi there didrocks :)
[14:28] <Laney> moin hellsworth 
[14:28] <hellsworth> moin Laney :)
[14:29] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz, hellsworth 
[14:35] <Laney> seb128: ubiquity translations... do you know if just merging new strings to master is enough to get them listed on LP or do they need to be uploaded?
[14:36] <Laney> I'm just trying to finish off the UI side of the bitlocker & RST stuff
[14:36] <Laney> won't be hooked up yet but we can get it translated
[14:37] <seb128> Laney, I think you need to deconf-updatepo
[14:37] <Laney> yeah, I got that bit
[14:37] <seb128> that's enough
[14:37] <Laney> just in git then?
[14:37] <seb128> no
[14:37] <seb128> package upload
[14:37] <Laney> ah
[14:38] <Laney> ok that's what I needed to know
[14:38] <seb128> would be good to have an upload anyway
[14:38] <Laney> ya once this UI actually works I can do that
[14:38] <seb128> there is a translations update staged in git
[14:38] <seb128> coo
[14:38] <seb128> l
[14:38] <Laney> it requires me to make ubiquity do things it can't currently do
[14:39] <Laney> like change the next button
[14:39] <seb128> good luck!
[14:51] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN hellsworth Laney 
[14:51] <hellsworth> hiya
[14:51] <hellsworth> ricotz: oSoMoN fyi iplan on focusing on LO bugs this week. i know there were a couple of new ones over the weekend
[14:53] <ricotz> hellsworth, good, I have pushed an installation fix some days ago
[15:43] <ricotz> oSoMoN, could you push relevant changes in ff stable to beta?
[15:44] <oSoMoN> ricotz, yes, I'll do that in a moment
[15:45] <ricotz> oSoMoN, thank you
[16:05] <seb128> jibel, do you remember what component was changed to add the  the 'safe graphics' items to the iso?
[16:06] <oSoMoN> ricotz, done
[16:10] <Laney> seb128: debian-cd
[16:10] <Laney> that's where the boot menus are generated
[16:10] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[16:13] <seb128> Laney, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-cd/+changelog ... you are sure? (also I don't see it mentioned in source)
[16:13] <seb128> Laney, maybe the question was not clear, I meant the items on https://imgur.com/TlnanjX
[16:13] <Laney> that's used out of bzr
[16:14] <Laney> lp:~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu
[16:16] <seb128> Laney, thanks!
[16:23] <Laney> nnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooo problemmmm