[00:05] Is there still a download for ubuntu base system (do they call it 'minimal'?). If so, can it be installed bia usb and alongside win 10? [00:07] And I have a question about the proper settings for bios on this Toshiba C55-C5270 with insyde bios version 5.10 (9/11/2015) [00:08] the installer gives the minimal option indeed [00:08] else the mini iso, to choose from tons of desktops and services [00:09] https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads [00:09] tip: let windows 10 make free space. [00:11] oerheks: You mean by running the utility in win 10? [00:12] no., install side by side [00:12] oh, to make space, yes [00:12] disks managment. [00:12] it calculates itself the max you can select [00:13] that's the name I couln't remember. [00:13] have fun! [00:13] I found and downloaded the mini.iso for 18.04 --> do I have to use some special tool or website to make it bootable on usb? [00:13] blahboybaz: oerheks So far as I know this is still true: "The mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode.". https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [00:13] rufus, i think .. [00:13] !usb [00:13] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [00:14] got it. thanks [00:14] oh, yes, uefi.. if you need it, get the regular installer and choose minimal, it will give gnome3. [00:17] blahboybaz: Also there is xfce: http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/ <- Mininal install with options [00:17] I'm guessing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD means for you to simply copy the file'dd_text_16.04-UEFI-n-BIOS-4-pendrive-7.8GB.img.xz' to a freshly formatted usb stick and expect it to boot? [00:19] oerheks: by "regular installer" you mean the 18.04 desktop download? [00:19] yes. [00:21] i would do mini.iso, not on top of the list, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [00:21] thanks [00:33] ia there a max size for usb in a usb install? all I have is a 16 gb thumb drive [00:33] will it be reconized? [00:35] no problem, the spare space will stay unused [00:41] thanks [01:17] pragmaticenigma, thanks for the reply. yes, some of the stuff under system slows down the operation but i didn't have memory checked - "free disk space" popped up a dialog box saying that it is very slow - don't know if that dragged the memory down but i unchecked it [01:26] eelstrebor: best recommendation is to really read the documentation that comes with that tool. Make sure you fully understand what that tool is doing. It has been known to damage and break Ubuntu (and other distributions) installs. Please use with great care === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:47] Hi. I just installed Focal on my laptop and found that it can't hibernate. Are there instructions somewhere on how to set that up? === anon is now known as Guest29343 [01:50] problems connecting new printer to xub 16.04; printer troubleshooter says CUPS service isn't running. Where do I find 'Services' to start it? [01:56] I'm trying to use rufus to create a bootable usb for ubuntu 18.04 on windows 10.. it keeps erroriing out and failing! First the os (windoze) gives a pop up in the lower right saying the device is no longer recognzed and then rufus fails and gives error code 0xc00300037 device is no longer available [01:56] what do do? [01:56] doodoo! [01:56] I've made 3 attempts [01:57] Try a different USB port or even a different USB drive. [01:57] Napsterbater: no such thing - this is all i got [02:00] If you cannot change the USB port and use and you cannot use a different thumb drive. Or I guess another computer to image with. Not sure what else you're going to do. [02:00] !ubuntu+1 | nicolasbock [02:00] nicolasbock: Focal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 [02:01] nicolasbock: UBuntu 20.04 has not been released yet... If you are looking for a stable install, I would recommend installing 18.04 [02:01] Napsterbater: it looks like it's completing by using a different port. I didn't see that part in your first respons (about using a different port) until I re-read it. [02:02] Seems to have succeeded [02:02] Awesome [02:02] thanks [02:03] Just make note to yourself that port is flaky. And save yourself some headache in the future. It's always annoying when you have a flaky USB port [02:06] Is there some shortcut keys or some other thing I need to do after the instlaller launches in order to do a minimal install? [02:07] Is it obvious? Some button in the installer or drop down to select that type of install? [02:08] It should ask you when you start the installation. At least that's what I just found. should be on the same screen that asked you if you want to update while installing. [02:10] This link has a picture of what the option should look like. https://www.fosslinux.com/3618/ubuntu-18-04-lts-minimal-installation-option-review.htm [02:11] Napsterbater: Thanks, I'll look for it (reading about bios config still) :> [02:14] here goes nothing [02:18] can someone try my program on wine and tell me if it works? https://cworklog.com/winproductive [02:20] relipse2, please don't. thanks. [02:27] what's wrong oerheks [02:28] please no spam in this support channel. [02:29] i think #winehq does not like it either, that is the place for applicationhelp. [02:34] Thanks pragmaticenigma . I'll go ask there. [02:47] ybaz> something there like that 'other' instructions said --but-- is there yet a setting in the BIOS to disable this feature and I'm just not finding it? [02:47] ybaz> Also there is in the ubuntu instructions says to disable SRT (Intel Smart Response Technology) but I don't see that in BIOS [02:47] What happens is even though the boot order is set to boot from usb first, when I press the power button it just boots windoze straightaway [02:48] So I swear I asked alis but I can't seem to find if there's a specific Pop!_OS channel? [02:49] sorry - incomplete / typo in first message... [02:49] baz> The article https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI seems to suggest that disablingQuickBoot/FastBoot is done in BIOS setting but I did not see any setting for that in my BIOS. When I did further search on theinternet I found instruction showing it to reside in the os setting (I'm have windows [02:49] 10). When I looked in the setting in the os I do s [02:49] ee baz> The article https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI seems to suggest that disablingQuickBoot/FastBoot is done in BIOS setting but I did not see any setting for that in my BIOS. When I did further search on theinternet I found instruction showing it to reside in the os setting (I'm have [02:49] windows 10). When I looked in the setting in the os I [02:49] do see [02:55] maybe I can sneak a question in if the novel is done? [02:55] the ubuntu article says "In your firmware, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows 8, also disable Fast Startup" and I double checked the terminology in my os. I see that it is the "Fast Startup" that I have in the os but I'm not seeing any option [02:55] to disable "QuickBoot/FastBoot" in my BIOS. What g [02:55] ives? [02:55] nope, guess not [02:56] GoneViral: you ever made a mistake in your life? [02:56] many, many times [02:56] go ahead... my problem isn't important at all [02:56] I didn't mean it that way. I just meant that my question would get lost in that. [02:57] I meant no offense :) [02:57] Sorry if it came across that way. [03:01] GoneViral: no worries man [03:01] its all good [03:02] (I was actually just wondering if there's a Pop!_OS channel so I can get out of your hair) [03:03] I basically just want to live on the edge and upgrade to 20.04 (beta/not-quite-stable) [03:53] GoneViral: Looks like they've got a Mattermost chat, but I can't find anything about an IRC channel. https://chat.pop-os.org/ [03:54] https://system76.com/pop/community found from here [03:55] bdju: thanks :) kinda weird not to have a freenode channel. Maybe I've become entangled with hipsters o_O [03:55] ;) [03:57] haha, yeah. I would bet that there's maybe a freenode channel that just isn't official. === tds3 is now known as tds === Napsterbater is now known as Guest9900 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater === Napsterbater is now known as Guest29462 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [04:53] Everything was going fine - I made a bootable usb with rufus (on windows 10), disabled Fast Startup in the os, and proceeded to boot into the installer. Then I realized I needed to harvest some information from the windows os before I blew it out (I was gonna do a dual boot but I changed my mind). [04:53] So I exited the installer, got the data I needed, t [04:53] hen when I tried to boot the installer again it wouldn't work - giving the following ominous error message instead... [04:53] Failed to open \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi - Not Found [04:53] Failed to load image \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi: Not Found [04:53] Failed to start MokManager: Not Found [04:53] Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed [04:53] : Not Found === recklessop2 is now known as recklessop [06:27] I just tried to install sddm display manager and it installed like 300 packages on my system... apt-get remove sddm didnt get rid of them, nor did purge or autoremove... HELP! [06:54] did you try apt autoremove ? [06:54] err, yes you did, nevermind === Roedy86 is now known as roedy === roedy is now known as Roedy [09:18] every blog post tells me to "install the version of Nvidia graphics supported by your graphics card", but I haven't found a way to check which versions are supported by which cards yet? [09:20] Is going here ( https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ ) and checking all the versions for the relevant architecture the way to go? That'd suggest 440.64 supports gtx 970 [09:34] im trying to use cpufrequtils to set my cpu freq govenor but its being ignored on 18.04, anyone got any idea? I set it to performance but it stays in powersave, intel xeon something [09:34] its definitely supported === Scytale89_ is now known as Scytale89 [09:55] hi all [09:56] Where do I log a bug with SSH for Ubuntu 20.04 ? Would really like to use it upon release, but would not be able to do so with current bug? [09:57] georgelappies, the channel for 20.04 is #ubuntu+1 === mateen1 is now known as mateen [09:57] !ubuntu+1 [09:57] Focal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 [09:58] thanks! [10:00] georgelappies: sent you a pm === Scytale89_ is now known as Scytale89 [10:01] nvm my previous questions === rtudu is now known as rtud === mateen1 is now known as mateen [10:20] FYI-Report: I used Kernel 5.3.0-45-generic until about 2 days ago. About 4 to 5 days ago I had troubles with a quite instable system. [10:20] Now I changed back to 5.3.0-40-generic and everything is fine. [10:21] Without further testing I'd say something is wrong with the Kernel. [10:21] Maybe others report the same [10:22] what's recommended, to have the default kernel version and keep upgrading as canonical's updates keep arriving or to have the lastest kernel? [10:23] Groar: first choice [10:31] is debian really more stable than ubuntu? [10:32] ice9: we dont take polls here, only ubuntu issues [10:58] what channel is for ubuntu server related questions? [10:58] !serve [10:58] !server [10:58] Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server [10:58] thanks === mateen1 is now known as mateen [11:29] #ubuntu-server seems a dead channel. I hope someone can reply me from here. I am using 18.04 on my PC, when I use printf() on my PC, I can see the outputs on /var/log/syslog, but I don't see them on ubuntu 18.04.03 server that I run it on google cloud platform. Does anyone know how to enable the syslog that it would log the printf calls from my C code? [11:37] Angs that's not how you're supposed to get the logging there. [11:38] legreffier, do I have to use Google's own logging agent? [11:38] have you tried using the syslog function in your C code ? [11:38] isn't not recommended to use syslog or something similar? [11:38] yes I am using syslog as well, but they are not registered on /var/log/syslog properly [11:39] well it is, you shouldn't rely on printf to feed any sort of log [11:39] Hi folks [11:40] if I use my own PC (ubuntu 18.04) or another cloud VM (Digital ocean), I see all the syslog and printf outputs on /var/log/syslog. But, when I use Google Cloud or Azure, I don't see the outputs. [11:41] I wonder how can I have the same logging behavior on GCP [11:41] the OS doesn't have /etc/syslog.conf [11:48] What would cause "apt update" show/check a repositry that is not listed in sources.list.d or sources.list.. or how can I find out where it is getting it from. [11:52] which repository [11:53] on my wired network i get 500Mb up and down. over wifi I'm getting 50Mb down and 240Mb up with a Unifi AC Pro. using 18.04. any idea why the slow download speed over wifi? [11:56] Why can't I find enigmail in the ubuntu software center? [12:02] bitblit: what physical bitrate and related parameters do you see in `iw wlan0 link`? [12:04] nvm, im an idiot.. === Apachez- is now known as Apachez [12:44] i'm facing packet loss on port 22 only (the rest of ports are fine), how should i investigate and what could be the reason? [12:48] ice9, do you have a ssh tunnel open ? [12:49] BluesKaj, yes [12:54] is it hanging or disconnecting [13:13] omg, I just nuked my server.... [13:13] I was trying to simply delete mysql with 'apt-get --yes purge mysql-server mysql-client' [13:13] and it deleted my nginx together with all the configs... [13:13] please tell me there's a way to restore it... [13:14] it's gone [13:15] Removing mysql-common (5.8+1.0.4) ... / Removing nginx-common (1.14.0-0ubuntu1.2) ... [13:15] why the hell it deleted it??? [13:15] phatcat: because you removed mysql-client ... there are plugins for other components that use that, and any that listed it as a dependency will get removed [13:15] fuck me [13:16] is there really no way to restore it? :((( [13:22] !language | phatcat [13:22] phatcat: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [13:23] sorry [13:23] so is there any way I could restore the config files? [13:24] cache, anything? [13:24] phatcat: my suggestions would be to #1) Shut the machine down and prepare to image any drives that had important information. #2) Resort to your backups #3) Once you have an image and can begin the data recovery process if step #2 wasn't good enough [13:24] https://pastebin.com/e4Uw4y96 [13:25] I didn't have a backup of my nginx config :( [13:28] could this help? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45852224/restore-current-sites-available-file [13:31] anyone? :( [13:32] patience phatcat [13:38] the nginx daemon seems to be still running [13:49] phatcat: First, never ever ever run apt or apt-get with --yes ... that is a royal way to break your system as you just found out. Second, if you are removing packages with the full intention of reinstalling them, ALWAYS make a back up, especially when using Purge. And don't just back up the files you think you will need... Back up the entire /etc folder and /var (or better yet, make a system image to restore from) [13:51] <[Simon]> Hello, i have installed apache 2 on my ubuntu 18 VPS. i can access my index.php using the ip address in my browser, however when i type in my domain name in my browser i just see a white page with nothing on it. please help. [13:52] pragmaticenigma: I will seriously print that out [13:56] phatcat: you might be able to use something like photorec to recover the deleted files, but as JimBuntu mentioned. the fist step is to shutdown that machine and make an image of the drive. Any new disk writes will very likely corrupt and overwrite your old config files. [13:59] Is there much of Ubuntu official software that is written using Mono? [14:05] rapidwave: do you have a a specific support (i.e. system won't boot, application won't load) question? for discussion and other topics, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or if it specifically an ubuntu implementation discussion, you can ask in #ubuntu-discuss [14:20] Hey, is this Channel here only for an English Support or are there other languages supported? [14:21] there are various channels for other languages, such as #ubuntu-de for german, #ubuntu-es for spanish etc... [14:21] Thank you^^ === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [14:47] What is wrong: http://dpaste.com/1KM0RH9 [14:47] My percentage is stuck [14:47] do you have a large database relipse2 ? [14:48] pragmaticenigma: no , i checked mysql server and it was stopped [14:48] 1405 pts/0 00:00:00 mysql-server-5. [14:48] 1406 pts/0 00:00:00 invoke-rc.d [14:49] how do i cancel my apt-get ctrl-c is not working [14:51] relipse2: how long have you been waiting? [14:51] 10 minutes === Kangarooo is now known as help === help is now known as Guest62654 === Guest62654 is now known as Kangarooo === Kangarooo is now known as Kangaroo === Kangaroo is now known as Kangaroo0 [15:24] relipse2: run top in a terminal to see active processes === Kangaroo0 is now known as Ooaoaoa === Ooaoaoa is now known as Ooaoaoaaaa [15:24] does anyone know why mysql won't start [15:29] does anyone here know how polari irc client works? it's not creating any tcp connections to the irc server directly on my system...is it using some kind of shitty web client or something? [15:30] seems like the weirdest/crappiest irc client every [15:30] ever* [15:31] relipse2: anything in /var/log/mysql/error.log ? [15:31] Is it advisable to replace the default plymouth theme? or does it break things? [15:38] http://dpaste.com/2G6FR7F [15:38] pavlos: [15:42] relipse2: see if there is anything in the /var/run/mysqld folder [15:43] yes there is mysqld.pid [15:44] try "mv mysqld.pid mysqld.pid.bak" [15:44] then see if it launches [15:46] I'm trying to connect Xiaomi Mi2S (2717:ff40) and copy images from it, but despite libmtp being 1.1.10 it does not see it. I've found https://sourceforge.net/p/libmtp/bugs/1400/ where this devide was added to libmtp. [15:47] I've added it manually to /lib/udev/hwdb.d/69-libmtp.hwdb but it does not work. where else should I make changes? [15:47] aah, probably it is /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules [15:48] For the love of GOD, How to disable bluetooth from starting up on every reboot? [15:49] I tried systemd-serivce, TLP, bluemon config,... non of them worked [15:51] Hamilton: Have you tried anything suggested here? https://askubuntu.com/questions/67758/how-can-i-deactivate-bluetooth-on-system-startup [15:52] Hamilton: though you should be able to disable it with "sudo systemctl disable bluetooth.service" [15:52] pragmaticenigma, all except /etc/rc.local [15:52] pragmaticenigma, I did use systemd...seems like something else over-rules it [15:52] what do you mean "overrules it" ? [15:53] pragmaticenigma, I mean it doesn't work [15:53] At the moment I'm counting 3 places which can control bluetooth startup on boot [15:54] What should be the result of `service bluetooth status` after sudo systemctl disable bluetooth.service ? [15:55] it can still be running, but will list itself as disabled [15:56] enabled/disabled is for boot time [15:56] you can still manually run services [15:56] `loaded (/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled)` [15:56] relipse2: since mysql is stopped, do you have /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock [15:56] It was already disabled before ``sudo systemctl disable bluetooth.service [15:56] But status is green running [15:57] Hamilton: correct, because "Disable" and "Enable" are only for boot ... not when the system is already running [15:57] So some other process is bypassing systemd [15:57] how can I connect a wireless keyboard to ubuntu? [15:58] Hamilton: Have you rebooted the system since changing the service to disabled [15:58] pragmaticenigma, I mean the state for *boot* was `disabled` meaning it should not be enable on next boot [15:58] correct [15:58] pragmaticenigma, yes [15:58] kappa1: does the wireless keyb have a usb thingy ? [16:02] pavlos, no :-( [16:05] kappa1: To be able to provide you help, it helps if you provide the volunteers more details. Instead of waiting for someone to ask you detailed questions, start with Version of Ubuntu, what device brand and name you are trying to use. What items the device comes with. [16:08] :-) Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS Keyboard + mouse combo: genius slimstar 8006 [16:09] pragmaticenigma, Thing is, bluemoon thinks that bt is disabled and asks for enabling it but service bluetooth status says that it is running (active) [16:10] kappa1: That requires a USB receiver to work. Without it, the keyboard and mouse will not work [16:10] kappa1: first question on their FAQ for that device: http://us.geniusnet.com/supports/slimstar-8006 [16:12] Hamilton: bluemoon is a great beverage... bluemon is probably looking at the flags set for the service instead of checking if the service is active or not. I don't know how the service is enabling itself if it is marked to be disabled. Disabled service should not be starting themselves on boot [16:12] or at any other time [16:16] panorain, thanks much :-) it works now (message sent from my new keyboard). The receiver was hidden inside the mouse [16:17] pragmaticenigma, I'm actually using xubuntu i3...I can just invoke rfkill in i3 config... [16:18] But it needs sudo privilage [16:19] pragmaticenigma, :| Even after rfkill, service bluetooth status STILL reports it is running! [16:19] hello! any thoughts about the best autoCAD alternative for ubuntu desktop? thanks. [16:22] RAL7016: Welcome to Ubunutu support. For software recommendations, polls, and to ask for opinions, please ask your question in #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks [16:22] RAL7016, just google it + reddit [16:22] linux autoCAD reddit [16:24] Hamilton: I think you have something else at work with your setup. I do not understand how it reports active when disabled and the system has been rebooted [16:46] pragmaticenigma, https://termbin.com/b2nr [16:47] nobody here? [16:48] dad-, 1203 + you [16:48] hamilton yes I see now [16:49] I am new to this [16:49] dad-, :) What client are you using? [16:49] Hi everyone !! I was asking yesterday about installing ubuntu.My girls laptop's drive cannot create a partition sized more than 18 gb . So i have decided to install lubuntu . Does lubuntu gets installed the same way as ubuntu ? [16:49] used to be on another IRC years and years ago [16:50] learning it all over again [16:50] v_lens, but ubuntu can be installed on your drive [16:50] v_lens, Yes I guess it will be the same [16:50] v_lens, There is also #lubuntu [16:50] ah ok thanks didnt know that i ll go there ! [16:52] I was sent here seeking help to install openoffice on 18.3 cinnamon 32 bit [16:53] dad-, ask away [16:54] how do I do it? downloaded and extracted it into a folder [16:54] Sarah mint [16:55] open office 4.17 linux version [16:58] koston ??? [16:58] kostkon sorry ??? [16:58] !patience | dad- [16:58] dad-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [16:59] lotuspsychje haha ok just new here and feeing lost [16:59] dad-: do you use mint? [17:00] ubottu thanks looking now [17:00] dad-: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:00] lotuspsychje yes [17:00] dad-: mint support is on another network [17:00] !mint | dad- [17:00] dad-: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [17:04] lotuspsycheje thanks a bunch going there now [17:04] welcome dad- [17:17] relipse2: is your mysql running now? [17:17] yep restarted and it was fine, thanks for the help troubleshooting pavlos [17:20] relipse2: np [17:34] Encryption key:****-****-****-****-****-****-****-**** Security mode:open [17:34] does this means the wifi is not using WPA/WPA2? [17:36] with a lot more context, it's unknown to me what any of that menas samfisher [17:40] samfisher, probably not, just an old terminology still in use (OSA) [17:42] hi. help with xforwarding [17:42] memphisto: would help to describe the issue ... [17:42] i'd like to access my desktop applications from raspbbery [17:42] ugh... samfisher meant to say... without a lot more context... without knowing what you wree doing when that was displayed on the screen, it's really difficult to determine how to answer your question. [17:42] so, one app [17:43] xhost +, and export display [17:43] but i keep forgetting how [17:43] memphisto: Explain, in detail, on one line, what you are trying to do. What your goal is, what are your OSes involved. The more details, the better the help volunteers here can give you [17:44] memphisto: are pi,desktop on same subnet? [17:44] i'd like to open zim wikki from my dekstop pc from my rasbbery pi [17:45] desktop is kubuntu . pi and desktop pc are on the same network [17:46] memphisto: from pi can you ssh to desktop? [17:46] yes i can [17:46] memphisto: try from pi ssh -X user@desktop then run xclock. Do you see the clock on pi? [17:46] memphisto: all you need to do is "ssh -X {ip_of_remote_system}" and then start the application once you are signed in [17:47] i get error can't open display [17:48] memphisto: are you in a gui on the pi? [17:48] yes [17:48] yes, i am [17:49] but i've run in from lxterminal [17:51] memphisto: do you have a ~/.Xauthority file on pi? [17:52] yes, i have it [17:52] memphisto: similarly on desktop? [17:52] memphisto: similarly on desktop-pc? [17:52] yes, i have it on the pc too [17:54] 0600/-rw------- on both of the machines [17:58] memphisto: ssh -X user@desktop ... can you echo $DISPLAY [17:59] it's rpi:0.0 [17:59] as I was trying to export to it [18:00] memphisto: you're on pi, issue ssh, connect to desktop, then echo $DISPLAY [18:00] yes [18:01] memphisto: on desktop ... grep X11 /etc/ssh/sshd_config ... is the X11Forwarding flag yes [18:02] it's uncommented [18:03] memphisto: after you ssh to the desktop, your display should be localhost:10.0 [18:04] memphisto@home:~$ export DISPLAY=0:0 [18:05] i've set it up now, but still when running from pi ssh -YC memphisto@home xclock [18:05] i still get can't open display === rafaeldtinoco_ is now known as rafaeldtinoco === moritzdi- is now known as moritzdietz === glycerine4 is now known as glycerine === altendky_ is now known as altendky === satanist_ is now known as satanist === ryzokuken_ is now known as ryzokuken === hexo_ is now known as hexo [18:10] memphisto: you cmd, adjusted for my env works, pi: ssh -XC user@fx xclock [18:11] yes, done it. same output [18:11] that's why i'm here , cause it's not working [18:13] memphisto: on pi do you get two lines ... grep X11 /etc/ssh/sshd_config [18:14] on pi i have X11Forwarding yes [18:14] memphisto: there should be X11DisplayOffset 10 [18:14] after that line [18:16] memphisto: on pi, add that line, restart sshd and try again [18:17] Can somebody tell me why apt can't solve dependencies [18:17] pavlos i've edited and now have X11DisplayOffset 10 uncommented [18:17] but still receiving can't open display [18:18] This is what I'm dealing with: https://0x0.st/iu05.png [18:18] Sorry I don't have a text paste. I'm working with a VM here [18:19] you can ssh into your vms [18:19] Oh yeah, I guess I could [18:19] then you don't have to tolerate the wonky 'console' thing those vms use [18:20] Actually I guess I could have just done the paste from inside the VM's terminal emulator since it's got an internet connection, lol [18:20] At any rate the Xfce desktop works just fine [18:20] memphisto: I must be missing something, pragmaticenigma can you lend a hand? [18:20] Anyway what is this nonsense? This is a brand spanking new install with the latest updates applied. I have literally not done anything to it yet [18:21] alschaapman: have you done an "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" yet? [18:21] And yet I can't get build-essential and dpkg-dev because of broken dependencies? What in the world? [18:21] the usual cause is using a rubbish mirror that doesn't do two-phase rsync updates [18:21] sarnold: Same error [18:22] libdpkg-perl is the problematic one [18:22] memphisto: on pi, lsb_release -a [18:23] pavlos: I'm not familiar with Rpi's... (technically, they should be getting support from a RPi specific channel, not here) [18:23] alschaapman: Did you see my question? [18:23] Oh sorry, I directed my reply to the wrong nick === energizer_ is now known as energizer [18:24] pragmaticenigma: apt update apt full-upgrade did not resolve the issue. [18:24] At any rate, isn't that exactly what the Software Updater does? [18:24] back [18:24] sorry [18:24] xforwarding [18:25] alschaapman: what if you try installing that library by itself? [18:25] pragmaticenigma: It's already installed [18:25] How do I specify a different version? I have the latest instead of the one in the bionic repo for some reason, which doesn't make any sense to me [18:25] I'm going to have a look at the apt-get manpage [18:25] alschaapman: Oh! you have held packages [18:26] memphisto: on pi, it runs some rasbian and on desktop ubntu18.04 ? just to get clear on the OSes [18:27] memphisto: it doesn't appear that your current issue is actually an Ubuntu issue. The volunteers here are familiar with Ubuntu and its setup. As for the Raspian that I assume is installed on your Raspberry pi, you really shoud be seeking help from a Raspberry Pi channel or community forum [18:27] 18.04 on desktop [18:27] dpkg --get-selections | grep hold produces no output. [18:27] and from ubuntu ssh -XC to rpi works [18:28] it's the other way around that isn't working [18:28] memphisto: Please look for assistance for the rpi in #raspberrypi [18:29] thanks === yn_ is now known as yn [18:30] Don't really like sending someone off, but I have no clue how OpenSSH or the ability of XForwarding is handled in the Raspian OS pavlos ... that's why we try to redirect users to a channel with people more familiar to the platform than try and resolve it here [18:31] pragmaticenigma: I understand ... thx [18:32] I think maybe I have the wrong repos configured? Which is pretty amazing. Again, completely fresh install [18:32] LTS no less [18:33] I mean I know Xubuntu is community developed but this is absurd [18:33] alschaapman: I'm not sure if the list held would enumerate out broken packages [18:33] How do I list all my dpkg repos to see what I'm working with here? [18:33] I feel like it's apt-get list-sources or something [18:33] alschaapman: i don't know if there is a CLI for that [18:34] pragmaticenigma: You can't possibly be serious [18:35] alschaapman: have you tried apt autoremove [18:35] alschaapman: also apt autoclean [18:35] alschaapman: I've only ever seen support here suggest looking at /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* [18:35] alschaapman: reboot and than do apt update and upgrade [18:35] after that try to install the package you are trying [18:35] again [18:37] Oh I think I should not have done autoclean just now [18:37] alschaapman: what happened? [18:37] I have to build a repository for somebody I'm trying to troubleshoot for. He can't get an internet connection in Xubuntu and he needs to install build tools [18:38] autoclean should have left the most recent versions of anything installed in the cache, right? [18:38] Please say yes [18:38] The apt-get autoclean option, like apt-get clean, clears the local repository of retrieved package files, but it only removes files that can no longer be downloaded and are virtually useless. [18:39] Anyway I downloaded libdpkg-perl =1.19.0.5-ubuntu2 from a mirror and installed it that way [18:39] Outrageous to me that I had to do that. What even is a package manager for if I have to solve dependencies myself [18:39] Anyway I was finally able to get dkms installed so I think I'm good now [18:39] well sweet [18:40] Where exactly is the apt cache? I'm going to make a repo out of this with dpkg-scanpackages [18:41] /var/lib/apt I think [18:41] I'm not seeing .debs in there [18:41] /var/cache/apt/archives/ [18:42] ^ ^ this [18:42] That's the one [18:42]