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callmepkMorning01:30
dufluMorning callmepk 01:31
callmepkHi duflu 01:32
pieqHi!04:14
pieqI'm checking 20.04 beta image install process and I faced a crash04:14
pieqbut when I tried to report the issue, I was told it was an existing issue04:15
pieqthe problem is... I cannot access the issue (it's bug #998492)04:15
ubot5bug 998492 in Baltix "Fails to detect package download errors on architectures other than amd64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99849204:15
pieqthere is a "oops" everytime I try to access it04:15
pieqtrying again but in safe graphics mode (this laptop has a nvidia card...)04:18
pieqduflu, do you know what logs I should be looking at during the install process? Just anything in /var/log/installer?04:19
* duflu looks04:19
duflupieq, I can't access that bug either. If it really is a crash then I can only suggest following all the steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Missing_a_crash_report_or_having_a_.crash_attachment04:20
tjaaltonpieq: you left #hwe before an answer ;)04:28
pieqduflu, install crashes again... but there is nothing in /var/crash and the whoopsie id points to an empty page04:29
pieqtjaalton, ah! Sorry, I wanted to backup the /home partition04:29
pieqtjaalton, so I had to leave hexchat04:29
pieqlet me reconnect from another computer04:29
pieqI dont see anything bad in /var/log/installer/debug04:30
pieqbut whenever I'm trying to log a bug (ubuntu-bug ubiquity) I am told bug #998492 exists04:33
ubot5bug 998492 in Baltix "Fails to detect package download errors on architectures other than amd64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99849204:33
duflupieq, no idea. I suggest not being connected to the Internet during install. It will go faster and might avoid that crash04:33
pieqok, let me try this04:34
duflupieq, also ask jibel to see if he can access that bug..?04:35
pieqduflu, I think this bug is very old and has a lot of dependencies, and Launchpad crashes when trying to access it. I've asked in the launchpad channel04:38
jibelmorning all04:44
jibelpieq, Salut04:45
jibelpieq, anything in /var/log/syslog?04:45
pieqjibel, not much. I've captured the log and I'm reinstalling without internet to see if that helps (but I'm busy with something else atm)04:46
jibelI saw 2 occurrences of a bug during installation where libc fails to install04:46
pieqjibel, yeah, I saw that error in /var/lib/ubiquity04:46
pieqit's talking about an i386 version 04:47
jibelyes04:47
jibelso it's a real bug 04:47
pieqjibel, do you have the bug id? 04:47
jibelcf bug 187126804:47
ubot5bug 1871268 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Clean Install first time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187126804:47
pieqjibel, shit, it's my work laptop... no running system ATM04:47
jibelthe error is in spanish04:47
jibelinstall should pass without network04:48
pieqApr  7 01:14:48 xubuntu /plugininstall.py: apt_pkg.Error: E:No se pudo configurar «libc6:i386», E:No se pudo realizar la configuración inmediata de «libgcc-s1:i386». Consulte la página de manual con «man 5 apt.conf» bajo «APT::Immediate-Configure» para más información. (2)04:49
pieqjibel, yes, I saw the same error but in English04:49
pieqI'll attach the logs later if that can help04:49
jibelyes please04:50
jibelpieq, it's Ubuntu not Xubuntu?04:50
jibelthe bug report is for xubuntu04:51
jibelit doesn't really matter, just making sure it affects everyone and not limited to a flavor04:51
pieqjibel, done04:53
pieqjibel, oh yeah I forgot to mention it's for Ubuntu, not Xubuntu04:54
pieqjibel, and the error is in /var/lib/ubiquity/install.trace04:54
jibelthank you04:57
pieqjibel, this system has secure boot enabled, and nvidia card05:01
pieqI can see the installer is trying to install a nvidia-dkms, and I know dkms don't play well with secure boot05:02
pieqjibel, added that info in the bug, in case of05:02
jibelpieq, the OP also has an nVidia GPU, it could be the common denominator05:04
pieqjibel, duflu the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492 can now be accessed, and also mentions i38605:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 998492 in Baltix "Fails to detect package download errors on architectures other than amd64" [Undecided,New]05:05
jibelit's just apport being confused. They seem unrelated05:06
dufluMorning jibel 05:06
jibelgood morning duflu 05:07
pieqjibel, just finished the install. The workaround of not being connected during install worked05:11
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:26
callmepkHi oSoMoN 06:29
oSoMoNhey callmepk 06:29
seb128goood morning desktopers06:41
seb128hey oSoMoN, callmepk, how are you today?06:41
callmepkGood. How are you seb128 ?06:41
seb128I'm good thanks!06:42
didrocksgood morning06:44
pieqgood morning Europe-based desktoppers! :)06:54
pieq(jibel doesn't count cause he wakes up waaaay too early)06:54
oSoMoNsalut seb128, I'm tired (didn't sleep enough), but good otherwise06:55
oSoMoNsalut pieq, ça va?06:55
oSoMoNsalut didrocks 06:56
didrockshey pieq, salut oSoMoN 06:56
pieqoSoMoN, oui ça va, merci ! Try to get a nap this afternoon! ;)06:57
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers07:00
didrockshey marcustomlinson 07:01
marcustomlinsonhey didrocks, how's things?07:03
didrocksgood good, yourself?07:04
marcustomlinsonyeah doing well thanks07:05
marcustomlinsonoSoMoN: ditto on the lack of sleep though :P07:05
seb128lut didrocks pieq07:23
seb128hey marcustomlinson07:23
didrockssalut seb128 07:23
seb128oSoMoN, same here, could do with more sleep, days are challenging atm07:23
marcustomlinsonmorning seb12807:23
dufluHi oSoMoN, seb128, marcustomlinson, didrocks 07:35
didrockshey duflu 07:36
seb128hey duflu, how are you?07:42
dufluseb128, stressed. Family life peaks in line with focal beta. How are you?07:42
marcustomlinsonhey duflu07:43
seb128duflu, oh, sorry to read, there is no ermergency with the release so don't overstress and take time if needed07:43
dufluseb128, yeah I keep thinking there are no emergencies so that's good07:44
marcustomlinsontake it easy duflu07:52
mwhudsonjibel, didrocks999: hey would zsys be ok with having go 1.14 as default in focal?08:04
Laneyyo08:04
didrocks999mwhudson: we build upstream with 1.14 since its release, so nothing bad should happen08:08
didrocks999hey Laney 08:08
duflulo Laney 08:08
mwhudsondidrocks999: thanks08:08
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:09
marcustomlinsonmorning Laney08:10
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Laneyhey didrocks999 duflu seb128 marcustomlinson 08:19
Laneyyeah doing alright08:19
Laneyyou?08:19
WimpressMorning desktopers o/08:20
marcustomlinsonmorning Wimpress08:21
seb128I'm alright, I could do with a bit more sleep and some extra exercice, I can feel the ratio food/movement isn't great atm08:21
seb128hey Wimpress08:21
Wimpressdidrocks999: We had a catch up with Yaru team last night.08:25
WimpressThey've got some fixes that are preparing for an update release.08:26
clobranogood morning all 0/08:28
dufluHi Wimpress 08:32
dufluand hi clobrano 08:32
clobranohi duflu 08:33
clobranoWimpress, looking at the PopOS commit that solves the build with libsass 3.6.3 issue we talked about yesterday, it seems they squashed the gtk-3.20 folder in gtk-3.0. Now, I am unsure about what gtk version is currently supporting our gtk-3.0 folder08:40
ricotzgood morning desktopers :)08:41
seb128hey clobrano08:41
marcustomlinsonheya ricotz08:41
ricotzseb128, hey, please sync vala :)08:41
clobranogood morning seb128, ricotz :)08:41
didrocks999Wimpress: nice! let’s get that as soon as possible :)08:42
seb128ricotz, hey, ok :)08:43
marcustomlinsonwoa didrocks leveled up08:44
ograeven above seb !08:45
marcustomlinsonXD08:45
duflutjaalton, I'm confused. Can you please explain how modeset gets used with the nvidia kernel driver without drm explicitly enabled? bug 187063708:51
ubot5bug 1870637 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Nvidia+modeset: Can't set 4K@60Hz: HDMI max TMDS frequency 300000KHz" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187063708:51
didrocks999\o/08:51
didrocks999thanks IRC timeout :p08:51
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tjaaltonduflu: you mean tseliot?08:52
Laneymarcustomlinson: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#update-manager sux08:52
dufluErr, maybe :)08:52
duflutseliot, any idea?08:52
dufluSorry, I have nick blindness in this area08:53
marcustomlinsonLaney: ah what a lame failure08:53
marcustomlinsonhmm, oh it's not the PyGIWarning that's the issue08:55
marcustomlinsonodd that I didn't see that locally08:56
Laneydifferent linters run during the autopkgtests08:57
Laneyquality08:57
Laneykind of questionable as an autopkgtest at all imho, but there we are08:57
marcustomlinsonvery questionable08:58
marcustomlinsonsigh, I'll MR asap08:58
tseliotduflu, that doesn't look right. I'll have a look08:58
marcustomlinsonLaney: could you trigger this for me: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=focal&arch=amd64&package=update-manager&ppa=marcustomlinson/test&trigger=update-manager/1:20.04.409:28
LaneyI can do, but09:29
Laneydo you know how to run autopkgtests locally?09:29
* Laney puts teacher hat on09:29
marcustomlinsonLaney: oh would I not run into the same problem of different linter?09:34
Laneymarcustomlinson: nah, it should run basically the same thing that would get run if I click that link09:48
marcustomlinsonteach away good sir09:49
Laneyok, install autopkgtest09:49
Laneythen run `autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud -r focal --verbose` and wait for that to finish, it will make a qemu VM in the current working directory09:49
Laneymeanwhile build the package so you get an _amd64.changes with the source in it too, e.g. sbuild -d focal -s -A foo.dsc09:52
dufluseb128, xnox, if I want to create a file in /usr/share/plymouth, how do I make it seen at boot time?10:00
dufluIt's still not found10:00
seb128duflu, do you use disk encryption?10:00
dufluseb128, no10:00
seb128it should be available then...10:01
seb128what's the error?10:01
Laneymarcustomlinson: and then, you can run something like "autopkgtest --shell-fail --apt-upgrade update-manager_20.04.4_amd64.changes -- qemu ~/temp/autopkgtest-focal-amd64.img"10:01
Laneyand it should do the thing10:01
dufluseb128, creating a plymouthd.defaults is ignored10:01
marcustomlinsonLaney: ok I'll give it a go thanks!10:02
Laneymeanwhile I clicked that link10:03
dufluOh, maybe our distro patch is blocking it10:04
seb128could well be10:04
dufluseb128, yeah that's it. I think I will rewrite that patch. There's nothing wrong with the proposed one but fixing more bugs requires a new design. Let the proposed one release first?10:11
seb128duflu, yes, it's annoying that riscv blocked migration now :/10:12
* duflu shrugs. I accidentally closed email and decided not to reopen it till tomorrow10:12
seb128don't, it's late enough10:13
seb128go enjoy your evening!10:13
Wimpressduflu: Also, I see you made the news again :-)10:13
dufluWimpress, yeah someone reads the status reports :)10:13
dufluTriggered upstream to wake up and answer my comments10:14
xnoxduflu:  has it been included in the initrd? i.e. did you do $ sudo update-initramfs -u ?10:18
dufluxnox, yes I tried that10:19
dufluThe plymouth debug log still claims it can't file that file which exists10:19
duflu(/usr/share/plymouth//plymouthd.defaults)10:20
duflugenerally the // is not a problem10:20
duflu*find that file10:21
xnoxi've never heard of such a path10:21
dufluxnox, we don't ship it. It's an upstream thing that plymouthd checks for though10:22
xnoxduflu:  lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img | grep plymouthd.defaults ? does it have it10:22
dufluAh that's the command I wanted10:23
xnoxduflu:   /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/plymouth is probably need to be edited to copy new/extra things10:23
xnox(if plymouthd.defaults is not in the initrd)10:24
xnoxduflu:  also not sure if that's something that should be in /usr, or in /etc/plymouth.10:24
dufluxnox, I think it knows about it already. More likely the problem is just that the config file is skipped after we patch in a hardcoded value10:24
xnox# copy defaults file if exist10:24
xnoxif [ -r /usr/share/plymouth/plymouthd.defaults ]10:24
xnoxthen10:24
xnoxcp -a /usr/share/plymouth/plymouthd.defaults "${DESTDIR}/usr/share/plymouth/"10:24
xnoxfi10:24
xnoxit is there....10:24
dufluYes10:24
xnoxno idea, sorry10:24
dufluSo I will modify the patch10:24
dufluAfter the proposed one releases10:25
dufluHuh, efifb remembers its mode (and has modes?!) across reboots10:50
marcustomlinsonLaney: thanks for the lesson by the way :) I did get the tests running locally and it's a good thing I did too as there were more issues11:34
Laneyah great11:37
Laneyblasted issues11:37
Laneywould the pyflakes3 test run at build-time too if we added a build-dep on it?11:38
Laneyif so, that would be a way better time to catch these issues11:38
marcustomlinsondoesn't look like it11:56
LaneyAH11:58
marcustomlinsonLaney: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/update-manager/update-manager/+merge/38181712:03
marcustomlinsonthat'll do it12:03
Laneyok lemme see in a minute12:05
cmatsuokaoSoMoN: hi, have you ever seen problems related to invalid opcodes when calling xdg-open from chromium?12:08
oSoMoNcmatsuoka, that doesn't ring a bell12:09
cmatsuokaoSoMoN: we got this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/187086112:09
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870861 in snapd (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser is unable to open downloads" [Undecided,New]12:09
cmatsuokait's not something I could reproduce12:10
oSoMoNcmatsuoka, sorry, I've never seen that12:15
cmatsuokaoSoMoN: thanks, just checking :)12:16
clobranohey Trevinho! Do you know if Yaru gnome shell in 20.04 builds the gresource? (It should, if I got it right)12:46
hellsworthgood morning desktopers13:30
marcustomlinsonhowdy ho!13:30
hellsworthhi there mr hankey ;)13:30
hellsworthmeeting time?13:30
WimpressYes.13:31
WimpressAnd hello hellsworth o/13:31
hellsworthhowdy ho Wimpress 13:31
Wimpress#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-04-0713:31
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Apr  7 13:31:37 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.13:31
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WimpressRoll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk 13:31
marcustomlinson\o13:31
hellswortho/13:31
kenvandine\o13:32
seb128_o/13:32
Trevinhoo/13:32
jibelo/13:32
Wimpress#topic rls-bb-bugs13:32
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:33
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187027013:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870270 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in dri_flush_front_buffer() from intel_flush_front() from intel_glFlush()" [Medium,Triaged]13:33
WimpressFix released.13:33
seb128not for bionic?13:34
seb128we are on 3.32 there13:34
WimpressYep, looks like Daniel is working this one.13:34
seb128assign to him and untag?13:34
WimpressYep.13:34
WimpressDone13:35
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:36
callmepkokay here13:36
oSoMoN( late o/ )13:36
Wimpresso/13:36
WimpressLook fine. Only unassisgned bug is the one we just dealt with.13:37
Wimpresshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/155965013:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1559650 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in ___vsnprintf_chk()" [Medium,Confirmed]13:37
WimpressAgain, looks like Daniel is tracking it.13:38
WimpressAssign to Daniel?13:39
seb128yes, the numbers of e.u.c reports seem enough to keep it on the list if he wants to deal with it13:39
seb128so I would do that yes13:39
WimpressDone13:39
Wimpress#topic rls-ee-bugs13:39
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:39
WimpressAll clear.13:40
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:40
hellsworthwait13:40
* Wimpress waits13:40
hellsworthhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/187056413:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870564 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) " Libreoffice's option "Customize" is imcompatble to decrease its Window size in Ubuntu 19.10" [Undecided,New]13:40
hellsworthi just tagged that ee-incoming (sorry for that)13:40
hellsworthi haven't looked at it yet..13:40
hellsworthbut wonder if we want to spend time on it13:41
WimpressWant that assigning to you to triage?13:41
hellsworthsure13:41
hellsworthbut then what happens with the tag?13:41
seb128doesn't look like rls material to me13:42
* ricotz hopes seb128 didn't forget vala ;)13:42
seb128especially not for a stable which is about to be superseeded and is not a LTS13:42
seb128I would vote wontfix for 19.1013:42
Wimpressseb128: Yeah, I'll drop the tag. It will be loved by hellsworth :-)13:42
seb128wfm13:42
hellsworthok 13:42
hellsworththx13:42
seb128ricotz, no, I just had to step out for a bit and I'm only catching up with things now, will do in a bit13:42
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:43
ricotzseb128, ah, I see, thanks!13:43
Wimpresshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/173332113:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New]13:44
seb128Wimpress, I would wontfix that for 19.1013:44
seb128we don't really care about ppc autopkgtest there at this point13:44
WimpressMakr  won't fix for 19.1013:45
WimpressLooks like sts are tracking that bug.13:46
seb128yes, I was pondering uploading to focal13:46
seb128but the current patch is an hack adding a sleep13:46
seb128and one of their guy asked to work on a proper fix so I will rather wait for that :)13:46
WimpressAgreed.13:47
Wimpressseb128: Can you comment accordingly please?13:47
seb128sure13:47
WimpressThanks.13:48
Wimpress#topic rls-ff-bugs13:48
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:48
WimpressOK, there's a lot here.13:48
marcustomlinsonholy moly13:48
* Laney cries13:48
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/186761313:49
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1867613 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu dock does not allow drag and move icons at bottom of screen" [High,Confirmed]13:49
WimpressLooks like a rls bug to me.13:49
seb128I tagged it, it has some dups13:50
TrevinhoI was tracking it anyways though13:50
seb128and even if the bottom of the screen is not the default I saw some comments of users having issues with dock on the left13:50
Laneytake it13:50
seb128so I would vote +1 and assigning to Trevinho13:50
WimpressDone13:50
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/186776313:51
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1867763 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT: assertion failure in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL)" [High,Confirmed]13:51
WimpressNeeds an owner I think.13:52
seb128I vote +1, it has some duplicates and is trivial to trigger (at least on my xps 13)13:52
WimpressWho wants it?13:52
seb128Trevinho, is that gjs or dock or shell in you opinion? do you have capacity to look at it or should we ask Daniel?13:52
* Trevinho hides13:52
TrevinhoI'm a bit busy... 13:53
WimpressI've assigned to Daniel13:53
seb128thanks13:53
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187004613:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870046 in appstream-glib (Ubuntu) "appstream-glib ftbfs in focal (all archs)" [High,Confirmed]13:54
Trevinhoit's likely the dock though, so in case I would steal when i'm about to release the dokc13:54
seb128k, talk to Daniel if needed13:54
seb128Wimpress, wgrant fixed it (I guess because it was in riscv path), https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-glib/0.7.16-1ubuntu113:55
WimpressIs 1870046 release blocking?13:55
WimpressMarked as fixed released and commented.13:55
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187006213:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870062 in libcmis (Ubuntu) "libcmis ftbfs in focal" [High,Confirmed]13:56
seb128we need to accept the ftbfs ones13:56
seb128so it's just a matter to find assignes13:56
WimpressWho want libcmis then?13:57
LaneyI'll have that one13:57
seb128thanks13:57
WimpressThank Laney.13:57
Wimpresslaunchpad.net/bugs/187050813:58
Wimpressis rls bug. Who wants it?13:58
seb128was it a one time thing or is it doing it every time?13:58
WimpressEverytime.13:58
seb128are you sure?13:59
jibelyes13:59
seb128there is no dup and no other comment13:59
WimpressCan repreoduce everytime.13:59
seb128and 1 affect person13:59
seb128those info should be written on bugs :p13:59
jibelit's the screenreader13:59
WimpressI've just +1'd it.13:59
jibelthere is a test case 13:59
seb128jibel, do you want to try to have a go at fixing it?13:59
WimpressI have comments (no via LP) from community about this.13:59
jibelno13:59
seb128:(13:59
seb128Wimpress, want to take on some bugs to help? ;)14:00
seb128we are going to be short to assign all the things there...14:00
seb128I can put that one on my backlog but I'm already overcommited at this point14:00
marcustomlinsonI can try14:00
WimpressI don't have time this week or next.14:00
seb128but it's the case of most people14:00
Wimpressmarcustomlinson: Thanks.14:01
seb128marcustomlinson, thanks14:01
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187075814:02
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870758 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Display scaling results in monitor power save state" [High,Confirmed]14:02
seb128+1 to take it14:02
WimpressYep. 14:02
LaneyThey can be fixed by SRUing and we might want to make use of the milestone feature to express that14:02
seb128Marco thinks it's a driver bug14:02
Laneypossibly by doing a separate pass of all the rls bugs14:02
Laneynot in this meeting14:02
seb128Laney, good idea14:02
WimpressSo assign it to Daniel for now?14:03
seb128tseliot said he would have a look this week, assign to him14:03
seb128Wimpress, ^14:03
WimpressOr just move on?14:03
WimpressOK14:03
Trevinhoyeah, I mean... it didn't happen with previous drivers, and anything changed for non-nvidia...14:03
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187119514:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1871195 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "The adaptive layouts aren't working properly" [High,Confirmed]14:03
seb128I suggested that one14:03
seb128see the short video to see the issue14:04
seb128it's looking lame and I would suggest we disable the adaptive layout, it brings little on a desktop and create those issues14:04
WimpressSounds senisble.14:04
WimpressWant to take that one seb128?14:04
seb128kenvandine, could robert look at it?14:04
kenvandinesure14:04
seb128Wimpress, Robert is our gcc maintainer :p14:04
seb128but he can't I can try to have a look14:05
WimpressAssigned to Robert14:05
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/184398214:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1843982 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Various programs crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash() from g_hash_table_lookup() from update_user()" [High,Triaged]14:05
seb128it has a few duplicates14:05
seb128I vote +1 to take it14:06
seb128it's a gdm segfault, not nice14:06
WimpressI agree.14:06
seb128upstream also gave some hints to a fix14:06
WimpressWho would like to take that one?14:06
seb128Laney, sounds like something in your skillset if you have cycles?14:06
seb128that can probably be a SRU14:07
seb128well, maybe it's just doing what upstream suggested and trivial, we should sanity check what he wrote though14:07
LaneyI guess so14:08
LaneyProbably should be more than the same few people taking all the bugs though14:08
seb128indeed14:08
marcustomlinsonI can try this too if kenvandine is fine with me postponing my other work14:09
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187008914:09
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870089 in yelp (Ubuntu) "yelp ftbfs in focal" [High,Triaged]14:09
seb128that's an easy one, need some appstream update14:09
seb128kenvandine can you maybe take it? 14:09
seb128(also update to 3.36 maybe while you are at it, the update is done in Debian an trivial, the build issue is what stopped the upload)14:10
WimpressKen wins a bug ;-)14:11
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187035614:11
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870356 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Can't connect to paired bluetooth devices via g-c-c" [High,Triaged]14:11
kenvandineyay :)14:11
seb128unsure about that one14:11
seb128it's not new but it sucks14:12
seb128https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/flpy74/does_anyone_else_see_this_bug_with_bluetooth_ive/?sort=new has stack of users mentioning having the problem and I could confirm14:12
seb128the bluetooth panel generates constant activity which block the pairing to work by creating resource access conflicts14:12
seb128well, not pairing, connecting14:12
WimpressThis feel like a .1 SRU14:12
seb128at the same time it's not new and ...14:13
seb128right, my feeling14:13
seb128do we have a prcoess for that? accept and use milestone?14:13
WimpressDo we need to give it an owner right now?14:13
WimpressWe don't have a 20.04.1 milestone yet.14:13
WimpressWho can create those?14:13
seb128that meeting is long enough, let's deal with that after?14:14
WimpressOK14:14
Wimpresshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/184480814:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1844808 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "Can't delete file from desktop by clicking it and hitting delete key" [Low,Triaged]14:15
seb128probably also a .1 thing14:15
WimpressAgree.14:15
WimpressUPstream dev is working on a fix too.14:15
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187005314:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870053 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "gnome-keyring ftbfs in focal" [Low,Triaged]14:15
seb128hopefully he manages to fix it and is not something to fix in shell14:15
seb128gnome-keyring worked after a retry, a test is flacky14:16
WimpressOK, move on for now then?14:16
seb128I would just wontfix, we are too busy14:16
WimpressDone.14:16
seb128flackyness would be nice to resolve but not rls material14:16
seb128thx14:16
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/186776314:16
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1867763 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT: assertion failure in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL)" [High,Confirmed]14:16
WimpressThat however is a rls bug.14:17
seb128we already talked about it14:17
seb128it was listed earlier on gnome-shell14:17
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/186989714:17
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1869897 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "missing ssh prompt to touch yubikey device when using gnome" [Undecided,New]14:17
seb128wishlist, would be nice to have but I don't see that making it for .0 at this point14:18
WimpressI agree.14:18
seb128maybe a good .1 candidate14:18
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187025914:19
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870259 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox fullscreen display glitches with hidpi scalingb" [Undecided,New]14:19
Laneywe can say rls notfixing don't forget14:19
Laneyjust saying, feel like we are accepting almost everything this week14:19
seb128sure, all those look important to me14:19
Laneyok14:19
seb128but feel free to state -1 when you feel like we should push back14:20
seb128it's a discussion :)14:20
WimpressOlivier seems to be tracking the Firefox one.14:20
Laney-1 on that touch bug then14:20
seb128Laney, ubikey one?14:20
Laneyindeed14:20
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187060014:21
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870600 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "permissions pane only shows currently-connected snap interfaces" [Undecided,New]14:21
seb128Wimpress, I would probably vote -1 / notfixing for the firefox one14:21
seb128kenvandine, ^ do you know if that is by design? (the permission one)14:21
kenvandineseb128: i do not know14:21
WimpressAssign to robert to triage?14:22
seb128Laney, I agree with that, I want a way to flag .1 potential work though before we get them off the list (maybe just using the desktop-lts-wishlist tag?)14:22
seb128I tagged it but I would be happy to have opinions14:22
seb128I think I'm probably -1 for rls14:22
seb128but I wanted to check with the snap people here14:22
WimpressI'd like to know if the snap permissions one is actually a bug.14:23
WimpressMaking it a .1 is fine by me.14:23
marcustomlinsonassign to robert and leave a comment14:24
hellsworthidk if the issue reported is by design or not. makes sense to assign to robert for initial look14:24
WimpressDone.14:25
marcustomlinsonalso, I -1 for the yubikey one too, seems edgey14:25
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187106914:25
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1871069 in gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) "Speed in network history grossly exaggerated" [Undecided,New]14:25
WimpressNot rls bug IMO14:25
seb128-1 from me as well14:26
WimpressTagged accordingly.14:26
kenvandinethx14:26
hellsworthmaybe they could confirm with other networking tools, like iperf14:26
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187132914:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1871329 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "No "Select Audio Device" panel when plugging headphones, and no sound output to headphones" [Undecided,New]14:26
seb128I think we should accept this one14:27
WimpressDaniel suggests it is this bug: http://launchpad.net/bugs/187132914:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1871329 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "No "Select Audio Device" panel when plugging headphones, and no sound output to headphones" [Undecided,New]14:27
seb128after investigation it looks like it might be an upgrade issue14:27
Wimpresshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/186619414:28
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Focal) "External audio device shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker, or none at all." [High,In progress]14:28
WimpressThat one ^14:28
seb128I got that reply from upstream14:28
seb128'I would understand if you need to remove the config once after upgrading to PA 13.99 because the way audio is routed has changed significantly. If there is an old preference left, a stream may always play to that old preferred sink.'14:28
seb128I asked upstream if pulseaudio should then delete its config or migrate it in some way14:28
seb128anyway I think we need to get that sorted out14:28
WimpressYep.14:29
seb128so +1 and I'm happy to take assignement14:29
hellsworthi also vote +114:29
WimpressDone14:29
WimpressI have another meeting to get to.14:29
WimpressShall we schedule another one of these later this week to review the remaining bugs?14:30
hellsworthsgtm14:30
WimpressAnd decide what to do about marking some bugs as .114:30
WimpressOK, ending the meeting here. 14:31
WimpressWe'll circle back to this.14:31
Wimpress#endmeeting14:31
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meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-04-07-13.31.moin.txt14:31
didrocksthx Wimpress, good next meeting :p14:31
oSoMoNthanks14:32
seb128thanks...14:32
seb128Wimpress, I think we should have covered https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages still14:33
seb128I would have been happy to do that, it's late in the cycle to postpone items by a week...14:33
WimpressI will schedule a follow up call.14:33
seb128anyway, I will do it alone and trello cards things as appropriate14:33
Saviqhellsworth: are you guys aware of a problem with gtk in snaps recently?14:45
Saviqhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HZWDzXk8Y9/14:45
SaviqI can't run firefox or remmina at the moment14:46
apwhey ... with an up-to-date focal the alt-TAB chooser the 'highlight' is near exactly the smae colour as the background; is this known ?14:48
Saviqhmm reinstalling the snap helped14:48
marcustomlinsonSaviq: that looked like you either didn't have the gnome-3-xx-1804 installed or the plug was disconnected14:50
marcustomlinsonweird14:50
ograbtw, it would be great if someone could append "2>/dev/null" to all these relapath calls 14:51
seb128apw, not known, could you open a bug with ubuntu-bug gnome-shell and include a screenshot showing the issue?14:52
Saviqmarcustomlinson: I did need a hard reset today for other reasons…14:54
marcustomlinsondid you try turning the snap off and on again14:55
marcustomlinson:)14:55
ograor wiggle the cable !14:55
marcustomlinsonyeah the plug obviously came loose :D14:56
apwseb128, apparently not ... as you cannot take a screenshot while holding alt-TAB14:56
Saviqmarcustomlinson: yeah, that (plus regenerating the pixbuf loaders cache) made firefox go14:56
ograwhere to ??14:57
kenvandineseb128: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/yelp/-/merge_requests/2115:00
kenvandineseb128: i'll work on getting that patch into the package in a bit15:01
seb128apw, no smartphone?15:03
seb128kenvandine, thanks!15:03
apwseb128, yep working on it, but i'd hoped to not have to add 25Mb to it15:03
seb12825Mb for a phone picture?15:04
Saviqmarcustomlinson: yeah, mystery solved, all my snap connections went away…15:05
marcustomlinsonoh joy15:05
seb128Saviq, it's a bit scary that those things do happen still :-/15:05
Saviqseb128: I'm on zfs root, got ENOSPC (or that's what zfs was reporting…) had to hard shutdown… can't blame it for sync getting wonky15:12
Saviqs/sync/things/15:12
apwseb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/187141615:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1871416 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "alt-TAB hightlight colour almost indistinguishable from the background" [Undecided,New]15:13
Saviqlove the bjf cameo in that image ;)15:16
apwseb128, gnome-tweaks says that gnome-shell doesn't have theme support enabled; is that right?15:16
seb128Saviq, I see15:16
seb128apw, thanks15:16
seb128apw, doesn't sound right no, did you change settings or session type?15:17
apwseb128, not that i know of; this is a very old install since like 8 cycles15:18
apwseb128, all the others are drop boxes with Yaru in, shell has a triangle with exclamation which has the tool-tip of no theme support15:18
apwoh it says user-theme extension not enabled15:19
apwis that somewhere else i wonder15:19
clobranoapw, you need to install user-theme extension to enable that dropdown menu15:19
apwwhy would it not be installed if it is required15:19
clobranoit's not required in fact, it is optional15:20
apwclobrano, hmmm, isn't yaru our theme though ?15:21
clobrano^ it is needed only to change gnome-shell theme from gnome-tweaks15:21
clobranoapw, I don't get what you mean. Yaru shell theme is available, what is not available out of the box is the ability to change it to another gnome-shell theme15:23
apwclobrano, /me backtracks, would the alt-TAB colours be part of that ...15:24
apwclobrano, as i don't seem to have the right colours in gnome-shell alt-TAB15:24
clobranoapw, that colors comes from yaru theme for sure. The alt-tab background is #222222, while the highlight is #323232. Honestly, I've never thought it was a problem15:28
clobranobut the ratio is indeed a bit low15:29
apwclobrano, so there is nothing wrong with my colours, they are as expected ?15:29
apwin any kind of backlight i am struggling to even see it15:30
clobranoapw, it is expected15:30
apwcan i change it without editing yaru ?15:30
clobranoapw, I don't think so, in 20.04 shell css is in gresource, you should change and rebuild the file15:31
* apw looks sad15:32
apwfeel free to close my bug then, thanks15:32
clobranoapw, well it's worth a discussion in yaru team :)15:33
apwdesigners ... heh ...15:33
clobrano:)15:34
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seb128kenvandine, there is a .1 vte, want to do that update/merge again? (and maybe g-t also if you have some free cycle this week)?16:10
kenvandineseb128: we'll see16:16
kenvandinegoing to try to do yelp16:16
seb128right, one step at the time :)16:16
seb128oSoMoN, want to do the librsvg point update this week if you have some cycles?16:17
oSoMoNseb128, can do16:17
seb128thx16:17
kenvandineseb128: yelp doesn't have an ubuntu/master branch16:22
* kenvandine checks the wiki for instructions :)16:23
Laneyyelp's in sync!16:24
seb128kenvandine, right, just upload to Ubuntu the build fix since Debian Vcs has a newer version WIP (&MP the fix to Debian), unless you want to finish the update for Debian and MP that with the fix then sync back to Ubuntu16:37
kenvandinei was going to look at  updated to 3.3616:38
kenvandineLaney: i just pushed the fix for debian.  Could you sponsor that to debian then we can just sync?17:04
kenvandineLaney: yelp was UNRELEASED in debian because of this17:04
kenvandinepushed to debian/master that is17:05
kenvandinethis would fix it for debian and ubuntu17:05
Laneykenvandine: I'm out of time, will look tomorrow17:05
kenvandinethx17:05

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