[00:45] <^amra> When do I run the Docker with some container is taht resources for a system is more spent? [00:46] <^amra> I have the OpenProject docker container, and try to understand if I run it troigh Docker or just on Ubuntu system wo docker, what the difference it would be? [00:52] ^amra: when run in docker, the application will use its own version of all necessary libraries [00:53] ^amra: normally when running a program, common libraries will be shared among all the other programs using the same libraries [00:53] ^amra: eg the "SHR" column in top or htop shows how much space could be shared among multiple processes [00:53] <^amra> sarnold: and does it mean that mem and ssd usage will be higher? [00:54] <^amra> Right? [00:54] ^amra: (the smem tool does a better job of showing how much of this shared space is actrually shared, but smem isn't as easy or familiar as top or htop) [00:54] ^amra: yes [00:54] <^amra> Thank you very much [00:54] ^amra: but, some things like go applications are statically linked, and it won't make a huge difference either way [00:55] <^amra> Ok [00:55] <^amra> I do the choice [00:55] so, really, it depends, but memory use of containerized things is usually highre than 'normal' things [01:14] hi I made this wired connection modification now I want to revert it so I can connect trough wire to the internet that not required pppoe https://bhanu.io/creating-a-ppoe-connection-in-ubuntu-18-04-onwards-d4e2410aa707 [01:14] what I should do? [01:19] parak0vsky: wild guess -- try nmcli con modify “Desired Name of connection” connect.autoconnect=off === skookum6 is now known as skookum [01:21] i forgot the connection name [01:21] ah I think I can see that [01:22] nmcli con show will show them [01:23] Error: value for 'connect.autoconnect=off' is missing. [01:24] hah, then I guessed wrong; try replacing the = with a space -- so nmcli con modify “Desired Name of connection” connect.autoconnect off [01:24] ok done [01:24] lets see [01:25] i don't think it works [01:25] I plugged the cable but led no flashing or flashin very infrequently [01:26] which I guess indicates that no data has been transmitted [01:27] I think the autoconnect setting only determins if this connection is started automatically (which was what that blog post was about) === skookum3 is now known as skookum [01:27] parak0vsky: maybe make a new connection that's using ethernet or whatever type is appropriate for this device? [01:28] nah in ubuntu 18 you can't just create pppoe authorization from gui apparently [01:28] i have created it sarnold [01:28] ok it works now [01:29] apparently cable was not inserted full or something [01:31] parak0vsky: yay :) [01:32] parak0vsky: funny, I always thought network-manager gui would let you do that :/ afterall pppoe is (was?) required for a *lot* of people for a long time === skookum6 is now known as skookum === zbenjamin is now known as Guest38236 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === skookum3 is now known as skookum === skookum2 is now known as skookum [02:09] hi everyone is the a linux version of the collaborative spreadsheet like google sheets? === JanC_ is now known as JanC === nt0__ is now known as nt0 [02:21] jwash: maybe this? https://ethercalc.net/ [02:22] cool, i'll have a look === ezri is now known as dax [02:57] howdy y'all :) [02:58] hello [02:58] I'm running xubuntu and my mouse is moving way too fast, even though I've set the controls to slow on the settings dialog... is there something else I can do? [02:58] hey lestac :) [02:58] there is something that has not been programmed/coded ? [03:00] not sure where the problem lies, wondering if anyone else has had this... it just seems that the mouse speed settings do nothing... [03:06] ok, worked it out, if anyone is interested... (My BT mouse is called Mousey heh) [03:07] xinput --list --short; xinput --list-props "Mousey"; xinput --set-prop "Mousey" "libinput Accel Speed" -1 [03:07] needed a negative acceleration which the settings dialogue didn't have (?) [03:55] if i were to buy 3 identical drives and want to set them up so they all wrote data redundantly with mdadm in raid 1. is it possible to shut the machine down, then pull the drives in a cage and put it in another server, and read the data? [04:06] jwash, yes, any machine with a new enough version of mdadm would be able to read the array. [04:08] so i'd load it in the new machine as an array of 1? [04:12] Oh, you mean splitting the array between two machines? [04:12] You would have to import it has a degraded array [04:18] yep [04:18] then add another disk so it could rebuild [04:18] is there a way to mount it read only? [04:20] jwash, you could mount the filesystem on it read only; or with mdadm --readonly [04:23] cool, thanks for the answers [04:53] howdy [04:53] I noticed that recently one of my Steam games wasn't playable with my Xbox One controller but it worked fine on Ubuntu. Manjaro is typically more heavily touted for Linux gaming. What's going on here? === tds7 is now known as tds [05:39] help. i installed the elementary desktop and caja (like nautilus) vibrates amd won't react. but I have a terminal and somehow killed caja. i think. repeat I want elementary gone. === nt0_ is now known as nt0 [06:09] what happened? no friends here? === leion1 is now known as leion === leion1 is now known as leion [06:25] Avion, what release of Ubuntu, I did an `apt-cache search` and other than XFCE icons, some libs, I don't see an elementary desktop (for my release of Ubuntu anyway) [06:29] Can ubuntu run on smartphone? I want to have it on my Redmi3s...a secondary device. (I can compromise if camera dont run.). I just need it for mobile browsing. === leion1 is now known as leion [06:30] hextreme, Ubuntu-Touch can for many devices; see https://ubports.com/ [06:32] Avion: use ppa-purge to get rid of the elementary ppa and all the packages from it [06:33] !ppa-purge | Avion [06:33] Avion: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [06:38] @guiverc, thanks [07:06] So I have a FiiO X5 digital audio player that can also be used as a USB DAC. Apparently it supports 192 kHz @ 24 bit/sample. Does anybody know how I can set the sampling rate and/or bit depth when connecting it to Ubuntu? === leion1 is now known as leion [07:11] k_sze: i'd think it uses whatever sample rate the data you're sending it has [07:14] hi everybody, can anybody tell me how to disable the highly annoying behaivoir of ubuntu 18.04 lts to fix popup windows in the middle of the screen of the main window, without being able to move them, so that you can not read the email below it that is telling you how to alter settings in the popup that is fixed on top of it :') ? [07:16] ducasse, not really. I'm playing some 44.1 kHz, 32-bit FLAC from VLC and my DAC still says only 24-bit. [07:20] vuurdraak: can 't you move it by holding alt and dragging it? [07:21] hi [07:21] no i just tried it stays fixed on top [07:21] lol [07:22] Everytime I login into my Gnome-shell session (ubuntu 18.04) an error appears saying (an error ocurrer - do you want to repport it?), but it doesn't specify anything else. any way to check what's 'failing'? [07:22] its like its bonded together, im currently going through all gnome tweak tool settings, i cant find anything wwhle searching online, i get anwsers for how to dual boot with windows :'D [07:23] it is doing this with all popup/setting windows of every program, its highly enoying [07:26] ow i think i found it in the windows section, first item :) [07:26] yeeeees \o/ got it lol [07:26] set attach modal dialogs to off :) [07:27] it is so annoying also that when you install a newer version of an OS that suddenly all stuff has changed from how it worked in the previous version :( [07:28] its like people who program destop behaivoir are so bored with their job, they think other peopel also like to relearn how their OS works every two years, guess what i dont :D [07:38] vuurdraak: you're not forced to upgrade nor to use ubuntu [07:43] that is a bad awnser :) [07:43] as i am forced to upgrade [07:43] as programs stop working due to compiler library incompatibilty [07:44] most normal non geek computer users hate it when they need to keep relearning stuff they would like to keep the same, not everybody spends all their day tinkering with their os [07:46] you're not forced as 1) you have more desktop environments 2) you have more distros [07:46] you are when programs annoyingly start to use higher gcc versions, [07:47] like lutris and downloadhelper [07:51] hiya [07:51] and i have used the mainline ubuntu for years now, its nice if the same main ubuntu sort of keeps working the same, although I guess it can be difficult when the main ubuntu keeps switchin desktop enviroments === benfrancis8 is now known as benfrancis [08:43] So I've had this problem for a while now, my audio input is going too quickly, everything sounds chipmunky and stuttery [08:44] Absolutely no idea where to start on diagnosis, but on a fresh boot it works fine, then switches for some reason and I haven't been able to reset and get it working without a reboot. Not much of an audio guy. Any suggestions would be appreciated [08:50] Ben64 i have also sometimes mistery problems with recording/audio input, that in some misterious way audacity is replaying recorded audio at halve speed, no idea why to be honest, fiddleing arund with both alsamixer (CLI) and Pulso Audio Volume Control (GUI Pavu mixer) seems to to solve it although i have no clue what i have fixed [08:52] i haven't been able to fix it besides reboot so far [08:52] but it's very strange [08:53] https://askubuntu.com/questions/50067/howto-save-alsamixer-settings [08:55] PulseAudio Volume Control is a very usefull sound mixer utility, and also needed if you want to switch between HDMI sounds for a source to your tv and the sound card for instance, i use it as my main volume/sound mixer [08:57] it can ste all kind of things for pulse audio [08:57] set* [08:57] right, but that doesn't change the timing of recording [08:58] well you are saying stuff works after boot and then it stops working, so maybe some setting is altered that can be fixed [08:59] or maybe you can see other input sources, and you find out in pavu that your using the worng input source [08:59] there's no setting for this [08:59] there's no chipmunk mode engaged checkbox or anything, it's like the system is reading from the buffer 10x the normal rate [09:00] chipmunk mode engage check box lol :D [09:00] no put maybe you can try a different input source, as on my soundcard i used the wrong port first physicaly for the mic [09:00] but* [09:00] like line versus mic port [09:01] it's definitely the right port [09:02] mm yeh i dont know :( im just a linux gamer :') [09:04] Hi guys === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [09:13] found a workaround finally! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1764965 [09:13] Launchpad bug 1764965 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[Realtek ALC1220 ASUS PRIME X370] Recording is very slow and plays 10x faster" [Undecided,Confirmed] === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [09:38] I've got a really weird problem... I've never seen this before and have no idea on how to resolve this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZmdH2n85CD/ [09:38] Ben64 interesting, now that i read through it, i think I have solved a similar issue , by fiddeling with the recording sample rate in the audicity recording settings as this kind of stuff is not just ryzen chipset only necesairily [09:38] First thing that would be interesting... is that a dpkg error or an error from that package? If it's not dpkg, I might be wrong here [09:39] but i did not have a 10x speed difference there was like a 2x pseed difference at some point in time [09:41] probably something different with a similar result [09:41] yeh [09:43] teasd , it looks like it doesn't want to upgrade, maybe you can remove the old package and then start fresh with the different type of package ? [09:44] it says u used an rpm to install the first version (redhat package manager) [09:44] and now ur usinf deb (debian) [09:44] different style of package [09:46] Yeah... how the hell is it even possible to install rpm's on debian/ubuntu? I didn't even know... [09:47] u can , i use alien to install rpm packages [09:47] vuurdraak, it isn't being listed in dpkg, so I don't seem to be able to uninstall it [09:47] some programs dont have a .deb package and only rpm, and then u have to [09:47] Yeah, alien isn't installed either, that's what I thought... I have no idea how the previous admins got this on there.... [09:48] it should be removable with apt-get regardless, at least when it was installed with alien it does [09:48] or with synaptic [09:50] `apt-get remove managesoft` tells me it isn't installed. `apt list --installed | grep manage` also doesn't show anything... dpkg -l neither... [09:50] I'm so confused... [09:51] maybe you can find it with synaptic ? [09:51] They're headless :/ [09:52] or the other way around can't you find an rpm package instead of a deb :') [09:52] well... yeah :D [09:52] hi people, i have a python script that needs to access a receipt printer. During development I was able to print, but when I deploy it on a server, I get the message that it has insufficient permissions. The python library that I'm using is: https://python-escpos.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/installation.html#setup-udev-for-usb-printers [09:53] But I don't really like that way :D [09:53] :'D [09:53] I set the rules aand the right mode. The script runs under the apache2 server [09:53] I also added www-data to the dialout group as descriped in the library [09:54] littlebit, I presume the script doesn't run as root? Did it run as root during development? [09:56] teasd: nope, I added my user to the dialout group [09:56] teasd: just restarted apache2 and it works find :D [09:57] Hello [09:57] c0mrade, hi [09:57] Hello Everybody [09:58] I am learning kubernetes [09:58] I want to setup a test environment in my Windows 10 laptop. [09:59] Setting up the environment using docker is the recommended way ? [09:59] Or shall I install ubuntu for windows and set it up in it ? [09:59] you can always also run ubuntu from a live usb without installing it for testing perposes [10:00] purposes* [10:02] raddy: this really isn't the right place to get generic installation support for kubernetes nor the right channel for WSL support either. You might do better in one of the more generic Linux channels [10:02] vuurdraak: But I cannot multi-task in the live usb as well as the changes may not be preserved, would it be ? [10:03] ah yeh true, if you want it to be persistent, it might be better to install ubuntu somewhere [10:03] JimBuntu: I am not looking for support on kubernetes installation not trying to troubleshoot wsl related issues if any, [10:04] JimBuntu: I was trying to find out whether ubuntu can act as a test bed for kubernetes [10:04] raddy: Ubuntu for Windows is WSL based though, that's what I was getting at. [10:05] JimBuntu: I am not complaining about any platform related issues, actually I am not complaining about anything yet [10:06] JimBuntu: I am very well aware that Ubuntu for Windows is using WSL subsystem for Windows [10:07] JimBuntu: I actually even know what WSL subsystem for Windows as well. [10:08] I've installed docker with apt and I am trying to change the image directory. https://forums.docker.com/t/how-do-i-change-the-docker-image-installation-directory/1169 says I should modify `/etc/default/docker` but that file does not exist. Any idea what I should do? [10:09] `apt-file search /etc/default/docker` also returns no results [10:10] how can i connect to a proxy server with my client ? [10:12] So I installed wordpress on an ubuntu VM on azure, a repo. Now it loads on /blog how can I make it load on the root directory directly without the /blog part. Or maybe a rewrite rule for .htaccess would be benefitial as a workaround. [10:16] c0mrade: just change the docroot so it goes in /blog directly [10:18] When will there be an option added to do-relase-upgrade to only donwload all requiered packages to later do the upgrade while offline or simply to have all packages copy them to a usb stick and use them on an offline system [10:19] I used to do this by first doing a sandboxed update copying the downloaded files to a usb stick [10:20] However sandbox option on do-release -upgrade has been broken since before 18.04 [10:20] However sandbox option on do-release-upgrade has been broken since before 18.04 [10:27] Hi guys, is there any way to setup an iptables chain readonly ? [10:36] and why would you need that [10:37] https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-security/anyconnect-linux-keeps-adding-firewall-rules/m-p/4062604#M1069039 [10:37] this is why :( [10:37] you're not allowed to use openconnect instead, are you? [10:38] it doesn't have such problems generally [10:38] but other than that... no, I don't think there's a way to make iptables read-only in that way [10:38] root is root [10:39] I'd either try confining the client in its own namespace/container, or ... try to trick it with the new nft-based iptables === Aavar_ is now known as Aavar [10:40] the client uses iptables command to re-create the rules [10:41] I even tried adding a script to chmod -x iptables but that breaks other stuff... [10:42] a) switch clients: use openconnect [10:42] b) make a wrapper script for iptables that quietly ignores certain "bad" commands [10:42] b.1) use dpkg-divert to replace original iptables with the script [10:42] b.2) use unshare & mount --bind to replace original iptables with the script [10:44] Should config files of snap apps be put somewhere else than their predefined locations? [10:44] c) if you are using iptables-nft, create a chain named 'OUTPUT' *without a hook*, then its rules will just be ignored [10:44] For example Youtube-dl looks into ~/.config/youtube-dl/config ... I put my config there but it is not respected. Should I somehow create a config dir inside the snap folder of the app? [10:45] I have a dat file from windows that contains text data but apprarently it is beimg malformed(formatted to be honest) so that I cannot read it properly in vim. is there a way how to convert it? [10:45] that requires knowing what format you need to convet *from* [10:45] mind showing an example? e.g. a hexdump [10:45] and is it 100% text? does it open in Notepad or similar apps on Windows? [10:46] trying openconnect [10:47] grawity: it is 100% text, it has at some points those small 2 (squared mathmatical sign) propbably indicating a CR [10:47] grawity: one sec [10:48] Openconnect is the best! [10:48] grawity: this is what hexdump gives me : http://dpaste.com/0HPS98H [10:48] Thank you grawity === coffeeguy is now known as zenguy [10:54] I forgot to ask for hexdump -C (easier to read) [10:54] anyway, no, that doesn't look like CR at al [10:55] (it'd be at the *end* of lines, always immediately next to LF, and vim supports CR-LF just fine anyway) [10:57] looks like it's a special format that's only 99% text, tbh [11:01] littlebit: basically, it looks like a fixed-width format, no lines but instead fixed-width records [11:01] littlebit: you could extract text from it using: cat file.dat | fold -w 26 | LC_CTYPE=C sed -r "s/^..//g" [11:04] another question, I have a webpage where -r "s/^..//g" [11:10] another question, I have a webpage where it access a db.sqlite3. I chmodded db.sqlite file to 664 and i see rw-rw-r-- [11:10] yet when using the page I get the error message that the database is readonly [11:11] this is how the file looks like: -rw-rw-r-- 1 user www-data 200704 Apr 9 12:04 db.sqlite3 [11:12] probably means the *directory* is not writable to you, and so sqlite cannot create the temporary "db.sqlite3-journal" file alongside it [11:14] ah ok [11:15] fixed it [11:15] Hi folks [11:39] Anyone knows where is .config of snap apps? I know about USER_DATA and USER_COMMON stuff but where should I put the actaully config file? [11:44] Why snap apps are still in dir after remove? [12:21] Hamilton, snaps are found in /snap/ ; but they are a squashfs & RO. I don't know, but where the files are read from is controlled by dev who snapped it & if confined (not --classic) will likely be within the squashfs [12:51] Hotkeys like Ctrl+A (to select all) or Ctrl+C (to copy) don't work when I switch languages (EN to IR(FA, RTL lang) . How to fix it? === umask078 is now known as umask077 === hggdh is now known as hggdh-msft === beaver is now known as clap_clap === clap_clap is now known as clap\clap [14:28] I want to install xenial as netboot - i am getting, during installation: Loading libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Looks like the installer is outdated? [14:33] thal, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1817358 [14:33] Launchpad bug 1817358 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 16.04 netboot installation failed during loading of installer component libc6-udeb" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:34] thal, you want to try 18.04 maybe [14:42] I receive the follow error when I try to check updates on Softwares: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t8kpknKnDq/ [14:42] does anyone have a clue? [14:45] dunno robinho86, maybe try updating your software from the command line: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade [14:48] robinho86, can yo uplease reboot and check again ? [14:49] via cli everything works fine! [14:50] this happen to me since ubuntu 19.04... now I'm running 20.04 [14:50] CLI for the win! Who needs the stinkin' GUI? :) === amosbird_ is now known as amosbird [14:53] robinho86: if you want help with 20.04 you need to ask in #ubuntu+1 [14:54] ducasse: thank you! [14:56] ioria: mhm. i need 16.04 unfortunately. [15:00] thal, I find that statement intriguing: why would you need to actually install 16.04 rather than do your 16.04-necessary deeds in a 16.04 docker container? [15:01] I could imagine a new situations where one would need a real install, but I'm wondering if your case would work through other methods. [15:01] in short: what do you really need to do? [15:06] drleviathan: i could do that, yes. Alright. I wanted to install 16.04 via netinstall and pointing to the remote installation url [15:06] drleviathan: short version is: i want to install Ubuntu 16.04 via netinstall [15:07] drleviathan: and this is the ubuntu-installer i am using: http://ubuntu.lagis.at/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64 [15:07] what I meant was: you want 16.04 on a box so you can do... what with it? [15:08] drleviathan: $contracter wants to have it to run his software (bigbluebutton) on. his requirement is 16.04 [15:09] * drleviathan googles "bigbluebutton"... [15:10] I see. And bigbluebutton runs on 16.04? [15:13] I recently acquired a deeper understanding of "docker containers". Have you heard of them thal? I ask because I see a potentially better way forward for you and your contractor using such containers. [15:13] but regarding your netinstall question... I will follow the link to the installer... [15:14] drleviathan: yepp, container, i regularly use podman, but that's just an alternative [15:16] I haven't used netinstall since... 2004 or so, and wasn't an expert even then. I don't have much help to offer. Good luck. [15:18] drleviathan: alright. thanks [15:19] i'm trying to build qemu from scratch but get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nyJnt2gz6v/ [15:19] which package is glib in? i've searched and can't find it [15:23] yates, libglib2.0-dev is already installed ? [15:23] no it wasn't, and i just figured that out - thanks ioria [15:23] yates, ok [15:24] can someone build pulseaudio-module-bluetooth? === clap\clap is now known as beaver [15:35] !compile | onox [15:35] onox: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall [15:35] onox: Any particular reason you believe you need to have something compiled. The volunteers here are better suited to help you troubleshoot and determine why something isn't working. Rarely is compiling from source necassary [15:37] pragmaticenigma: for some reason I have ubuntu7.5 of libpulse0 on my system [15:37] !info libpulse0 [15:37] libpulse0 (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio client libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:13.0-1ubuntu1.1 (eoan), package size 254 kB, installed size 997 kB [15:37] on bionic [15:37] which should be 7.4 [15:37] !info libpulse0 bionic [15:37] libpulse0 (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio client libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4 (bionic), package size 258 kB, installed size 999 kB [15:38] am I a MITM victim? (since apt uses http) [15:38] onox: Do you have a PPA installed on your system? [15:38] no ppas [15:38] just bionic, bionic-security, and bionic-updates in sources.list [15:39] onox: what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder? [15:39] empty [15:40] onox: I just checked my system and I have Package: libpulse0 [15:40] Version: 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 [15:40] ok [15:41] but pulseaudio-module-bluetooth wants 7.4 [15:41] and why is packages.ubuntu.com showing 7.4? is it updated asynchronously? [15:42] onox: looking into that now... because I have two up-to-date systems... one has 7.5 and the other has 7.4 [15:42] onox: could be handy to show your full apt output, to see whats all happening over there, volunteers could help you better [15:44] it says: unmet dependencies, "Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4) but 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 is to be installed" [15:44] same line for dependency pulseaudio [15:45] onox: is your system up to date? [15:46] I did apt update;apt upgrade;apt dist-upgrade [15:46] uname -a ? [15:46] 4.150-96-generic [15:46] yeah 96 should be good [15:46] *4.15.0-96-generic [15:47] onox: can you check if its bug #1858164 please? [15:47] bug 1858164 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "libpulse-dev needs a rebuild for libpulse0-1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 on bionic-updates" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858164 [15:47] onox, you might need to enable proposed , install that moduel, and disable it [15:53] onox: I just checked on my machine... when I attempt to install pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, it's already linked against the 7.5 release. I'm not sure how I have 7.5, as Source on the package is listed as /var/lib/dpkg/status ... and that doesn't help identify the source of that package for me [15:53] I removed libpulse0 (and everything that depended on it) and reinstalled it, and that fixed the error when I try to install pulseaudio-module-bluetooth [15:54] lotuspsychje: it seems it was a mistake in the release as vanvugt wrote in #3 in bug 1858164 [15:54] bug 1858164 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "libpulse-dev needs a rebuild for libpulse0-1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 on bionic-updates" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858164 [15:55] onox: weird you still affected, as its bugged on 18.04.3 and fix commited since [15:55] I'm on 18.04.4 LTS according to lsb_release -a [15:56] yeah, up to date makes this weird [15:56] yeah :/ [15:56] onox: Do you have Google Chrome installed on that machine? [15:56] no, I'm on a X11 free system :P [15:57] onox: A simple yes or no was enough. Do you have XBMC/KODI installed on there? [15:58] no :) [16:00] odd... I'm lost as to how that package got on my system. I have two systems setup nearly identical... one reports having the 7.5 version and the other 7.4 [16:01] anyone know how to tell exactly how a package was installed, specifically what source provided the package? [16:04] pragmaticenigma, not a bug, a simple mistake [16:04] ioria: what do you mean? [16:04] pragmaticenigma, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1858164 [16:04] Launchpad bug 1858164 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "libpulse-dev needs a rebuild for libpulse0-1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 on bionic-updates" [Undecided,Fix committed] [16:10] pragmaticenigma, or better here : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1196147/18-04-lts-what-was-wrong-with-the-december-11-pulseaudio-update [16:13] yeah, that helps narrow it down... secondary machine is used for media playback and I worry about its updates less frequently than the other machine [16:16] how can i add a pem file permanently to .ssh? doing ssh-add my.pem does not store it .ssh/id_rsa [16:18] is ssh-add supposed to import it permanently? === zerixx` is now known as zerix === vlm_ is now known as vlm === Guest_19 is now known as chudak2 [16:37] Hello all ! [16:38] welcome chudak2 [16:38] on 20.04 screen sharing does not work on fresh install, via Settings/Screen Share the Network Slider is disabled, any help appreciated ! [16:38] Thx lotuspsychje ! [16:38] come to #ubuntu+1 chudak2 please [16:38] ok [16:53] hope this isn't too off-topic. Kile gives error "finished with exit code 1" and doesn't compile. but the file does compile as supposed to with vimtex. any ideas? [16:54] viktor: For compilation help, it's best to contact the developer of the program for help. This channel focuses on supporting the packages made avaialble through Ubuntu's official software repositories [16:54] pragmaticenigma: ok, thanks [17:08] i seem to be having an issue since installing wireguard to where i occassionally run resolvconf -u to get dns working again [17:14] eelstrebor, a suggestion here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WireGuard#Broken_DNS_resolution [17:14] pragmaticenigma: lotuspsychje: thanks for the help btw [17:14] onox: got it fixed? [17:16] I managed to install the module, but it seems my PS4 controller doesn't describe itself as a source/sink to PA via bluetooth, it works over USB though [17:17] onox: are you using gnomes internal bluetooth or blueman? [17:18] neither, just bluetoothctl and pavucontrrol [17:18] try blueman perhaps? [17:18] onox: might wanna journalctl -f and pair your controller, see what errors you get, share in pastebin to the volunteers [17:18] doesn't that only help with connection issues? input/led/rumble works [17:19] I already got it paired [17:19] oh [17:19] Hey guys how would I go about updating to the lastest 440 nvidia drivers? Is just purging all nvidia packages and then installing `nvidia-driver-440` good enough? [17:19] Renari: wich graphics card chipset do you have? [17:20] I ask because driver manager is only installing 435 [17:20] it just doesn't show the Audio Sink or Headset UUID [17:20] Quatro RTX 3000 [17:20] Renari: No need to purge... just manage it through the proprietary drivers panel [17:20] Renari, you need the ppa for 440 [17:20] Renari: check ubuntu-drivers list, to see wich are available for your system [17:21] onox: try the journalctl -f, then compare both on BT & usb [17:21] Thanks got it, did `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers` and now it shows the 440 release in driver manager. [17:23] lotuspsychje: only "input,hidraw2: BLUETOOTH HID" shows up [17:26] lotuspsychje: I just read on reddit that for audio to work over bluetooth you need some "official adapter" [17:28] onox: correct, Sony has a proprietary setup for the audio to controller feature. I think lotuspsychje thought you were having trouble pairing your controller generally [17:29] pragmaticenigma: do you happen to know if the speaker is supposed to work over USB? [17:30] the 3.5mm jack works, but I haven't been able to get it to output to the speaker [17:30] onox: I have no experience with the PS audio stuff, just knowledge that you are not the first one to be in the channel with an issue regarding it [17:37] onox: Also, just to asuage some of your earlier worries, while apt uses http to fetch packages and to fetch the release files that say what packages are available, all files downloaded through apt are signed and are verified before they are used. This means that a MITM attack can at most lead you to not get any updates from a given repository (by mirroring old signed info). Note, an MITM attack can't [17:37] prevent you from seeing an update for just one package, it's all or nothing. And an MITM attack cannot push a newer package to you. [17:37] onox: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt [17:40] Jordan_U: ah, thx for that info, I was a bit worried because I didn't see any output that apt does verification [17:41] onox: You're welcome. [18:05] I fried my video card whilst replacing a PSU. So, I need a new one. I would like to do (some) gaming on my Ubuntu machine. What new (ish) video card can I plug into my new mother board (…) with reasonable support from Ubuntu drivers? Or third party drivers? Any other channel I should ask?? [18:07] !hardware | ChristW start here [18:07] ChristW start here: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [18:08] why is lts holding back kernels on a normal upgrade? [18:09] neoweb: could you provide a bit more details of your current system, so volunteers can thinka long with you, ubuntu version, wich kernels all list in your system? [18:10] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gPH2SSo3/image.png [18:10] It is a default install of ubuntu lts [18:10] why is this stuff held back? [18:10] when I upgrade [18:10] neoweb: wich lts exactly, and wich kernels are on your system? [18:11] going from 18.04.1 to 18.04.4 [18:11] Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS \n \l - 4.15.0-43-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 6 14:45:28 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [18:12] neoweb: current kernel should be 4.15 -96 [18:12] right, so when I apt-get update/upgrade no dist-upgrade why is it holding back. the lts releases are different dists? [18:12] neoweb: did you add ppa's or add !mainline kernels? [18:13] no. and dist-upgrade just upgraded it all. [18:13] neoweb: can you pastebin the full output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ? [18:14] apt full-upgrade performs the same function as apt-get dist-upgrade [18:14] I just told you, it is updating those held back packages now. [18:15] https://pastebin.com/U2eCVrVd [18:15] neoweb: your pic was not the full output, can we see the entire apt happenings? [18:15] My question is not how to fix it. [18:15] WHY. Is this EXPECTED behaviour? [18:17] https://pastebin.com/U2eCVrVd [18:17] neoweb: yes. to do a full upgrade you need to use full-upgrade/dist-upgrade [18:17] Is that for all ubuntu's. Is it expected behavior that kernels are always held back now? [18:17] neoweb: apt-get upgrade will not install new packages to satisfy dependencies [18:17] ahh [18:18] neoweb: apt upgrade will install new packages to satisfy dependencies [18:18] So that is the behaviour. [18:18] Thanks! [18:18] neoweb: apt-get dist-upgrade will *remove* any package it wants to, to try to satisfy a dependency [18:18] neoweb: apt upgrade will *not* remove packages to satisfy dependencies [18:18] neoweb: you should almost always be using apt upgrade, instead of apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade [18:19] Why would I do that sarnold. Why would I not want the kernel that comes w/ the latest 18 lts? [18:20] neoweb: you would ;) apt upgrade would install it for you, without the risk of uninstalling something important [18:21] I've seen dozens of bug reports filed by people; when apt-get dist-upgraded figured out how to "fix" a dependency problem by uninstalling their sudo package [18:21] This is a vanilla ubuntu box installed/upgraded at the end of 2019. minimal, it is a template box...I cant see what I installed that would hold the kernel back. [18:21] neoweb: nothing at all [18:21] neoweb: kernel updates are delivered via new packages [18:21] neoweb: apt-get upgrade won't install new packages [18:21] ahh [18:22] neoweb: The one question I have in mind... which kernel are you expecting to be installed? [18:22] neoweb: that's why you need to use either apt upgrade (better) or apt-get dist-upgrade (not as good, but works) [18:22] neoweb: that is... what version number [18:22] The one default to Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS [18:22] Which appears to be 4.15.0-96-generic [18:23] I get it now. [18:23] Thanks sarnold ! [18:23] neoweb: The default there is a 5.x series from the HWE ... that's why it's confusing for you to say latest/newest [18:24] after a crash of an application gnome-session exited unexpectedly, afteeer logging back in from gdm it seems certian GUI application no longer work giving this message "CRITICAL: Could not initialize SDL: No available video device" [18:25]