[13:52] <pmatulis> simple charm question. the charm store has a postgresql charm but it doesn't say what version it's based on. i'm actually looking for both 9.x and 10.x
[14:15] <roadmr> pmatulis: the charm is multi-version, check the "version" setting
[14:15] <roadmr> (string) Version of PostgreSQL that we want to install. Supported versions are "9.3", "9.4", "9.5", "9.6" & "10". The default version for the deployed Ubuntu release is used when the version is unspecified.
[14:18] <pmatulis> roadmr, oh wow thanks
[14:51] <pmatulis> is there a special reason why there isn't an option for `remove-application` and `remove-unit` that conserves machines after having removed the only remaining units on them? some bare metal machines can take a very long time to provision
[15:02] <rick_h_> pmatulis:  yea it depends on what series since it's using the deb released
[15:03] <rick_h_> pmatulis:  because we don't destroy things on accident. You can "fake that" with the clean juju script included (typically more meant for cleaning on manual machines)
[15:03] <rick_h_> pmatulis:  so going the manual add-machine route with the clean script might be faster/easier
[15:04]  * rick_h_ is tring to find it
[15:05]  * pmatulis has never heard of the clean script
[15:06] <pmatulis> it would be nice to have these options though, if the user passes it nothing would be destroyed by accident?
[15:06] <rick_h_> pmatulis:  also looks like the docs say --keep-instance will keep it around
[15:08] <pmatulis> rick_h_, hm, i don't see that option
[15:10] <rick_h_> pmatulis:  yea, seems docs are out of date there or that was wishful thinking. I'm trying to find that removal script. :/ I know it's there and added in 2.6 but can't find the note
[15:15] <rick_h_> pmatulis:  https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10877
[15:18] <pmatulis> rick_h_, sweet thanks. still can't detect the --keep-instance option
[15:21] <rick_h_> pmatulis:  right, that's only in the docs and might not have ever been there. Just came across it while searching for that script
[15:34] <pmatulis> rick_h_, do you have a link to that option in the docs? i don't see it
[15:34] <pmatulis> ha, i see it now