[13:52] simple charm question. the charm store has a postgresql charm but it doesn't say what version it's based on. i'm actually looking for both 9.x and 10.x [14:15] pmatulis: the charm is multi-version, check the "version" setting [14:15] (string) Version of PostgreSQL that we want to install. Supported versions are "9.3", "9.4", "9.5", "9.6" & "10". The default version for the deployed Ubuntu release is used when the version is unspecified. [14:18] roadmr, oh wow thanks [14:51] is there a special reason why there isn't an option for `remove-application` and `remove-unit` that conserves machines after having removed the only remaining units on them? some bare metal machines can take a very long time to provision [15:02] pmatulis: yea it depends on what series since it's using the deb released [15:03] pmatulis: because we don't destroy things on accident. You can "fake that" with the clean juju script included (typically more meant for cleaning on manual machines) [15:03] pmatulis: so going the manual add-machine route with the clean script might be faster/easier [15:04] * rick_h_ is tring to find it [15:05] * pmatulis has never heard of the clean script [15:06] it would be nice to have these options though, if the user passes it nothing would be destroyed by accident? [15:06] pmatulis: also looks like the docs say --keep-instance will keep it around [15:08] rick_h_, hm, i don't see that option [15:10] pmatulis: yea, seems docs are out of date there or that was wishful thinking. I'm trying to find that removal script. :/ I know it's there and added in 2.6 but can't find the note [15:15] pmatulis: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10877 [15:18] rick_h_, sweet thanks. still can't detect the --keep-instance option [15:21] pmatulis: right, that's only in the docs and might not have ever been there. Just came across it while searching for that script [15:34] rick_h_, do you have a link to that option in the docs? i don't see it [15:34] ha, i see it now