 Bug #1879618
 Bug #187968 (edited)
 Ugh
 Bug #1871968
 There
 I just discover same issue in Kubuntu...
 Confirm it
 Who is the right person to contact for this?
 Done
 I supposed Wimpy, Rik or Alan will know who to contact.
 Won’t put anything down until I know. It’s 3 AM in the UK, so soon they’ll be online
 Looks like it's already being worked on.
 @ItzSwirlz @DarinMiller ^
 I wouldn't bother our British friends with it.
 very good :)
 There you go. Great
 I also contacted someone I know who has been working on grub.
 Had a chance to test out the ZFS snapshot finally.
 I downloaded a GTK theme and icon pack that I'm running just fine in Xfce.
 And when I applied it onto Budgie, the icon pack crashed the desktop enviroment.  And on reboot it goes into a login loop.
 Can Budgie not run GTK2 icons?
[02:40] <valorie> maybe ask in a budgie chan?
 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot. (re @troyBORG: Can Budgie not run GTK2 icons?)
[04:40] <BloatHunter> So 20.04 beta has the nautilus gnome terminal extension, but no way to enable it?
[04:40] <BloatHunter> I mean obv I can enable it in gsettings but no gtk option anywhere
 I guess I was just going off what neofetch said.  It listed my custom icons as gtk2 and adwita as gtk3.. (re @Eickmeyer: 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot.)

 красиво )))
 I'll test it again in the morning.
 I'll boot up other Ubuntu distros and see if they crash, also will try Solus budgie see if it crashes with the icons... (re @Eickmeyer: 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot.)
 Here is a video on how to install the new UbuntuDDE on your pc
 I hope this might help some of you guys who have got intrest in that
 https://youtu.be/W1triK54_14
 I'm not aware of any issues (that's have been reported). But to be honest I have not really tested anything. Which theme are you attempting to use? (re @troyBORG: Can Budgie not run GTK2 icons?)
[06:06] <BloatHunter> Why are so many unneeded packages listed as requirements that haven't been relevant for a decade or longer? Gstreamer good requires two firewire packages? the industry group for firewire hasn't even existed for five years
 Anyone else bit by this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1871983 - Fortunately there is a sed command in the bug report to fix.
[06:18] <dax> duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1871963 , which has a comment from vorlon saying it's fixed in -proposed
[07:02] <fossfreedom> BloatHunter: you perhaps should discuss this with the gstreamer devs ... or if there isnt a specific hard requirement in gstreamer land then raise an issue to the debian packagers
[08:05] <BloatHunter> Why is the yaru theme a single package for gtk2 + 3 ? It pulls in another gtk2 theme and gtk2 theme engine as a depends
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> BloatHunter: sounds like a question for #ubuntu-devel perhaps
 Guys, i'm using ubuntu 20.04 and my net is using .local and not avahi, is that normal or bug?
[09:44] <BloatHunter> Mine is only connecting at 100Mb not 1000 and doesn't have that combobox to manually pick :\
 i've not selected it manually, he does this auto
 I don't think that this can be a problem, but is even better ask, no?
 I knows the there is a turnaroun modifing the /etc/default/avahi-daemon and adding AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0
 I knows the there is a turnaround modifing the /etc/default/avahi-daemon and adding AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0 (edited)
[10:11] <BloatHunter> There's a 404'd URL (also http) in the color-picker: gsettings get org.freedesktop.ColorHelper profile-upload-uri
[10:12] <BloatHunter> The cert is also affiliated with a hypnotist birthing site, apparently thats a thing.
 sudo apt install nitroshare isnt working
 20.04
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> @arnoldxxi: apt-cache doesnt find that package
 Bug #1835660
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> Dr8g0n: place your bug ID here please, volunteers and devs might have tested it aswell
[13:34] <Dr8g0n> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1872076
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> anyone tested 20.04 on touch devices^
 @ItzSwirlz when did you spin your iso last time ?
 Wednesday night
 Late EST
 I spun one yesterday when update-manager got patched (bug fix)
 Ah ok.
 But that’s just for me
 UbuntuDDE Theme
 Deepin OS Theme
 .
 I've made this tutorial to help people know how to get the Deepin OS or UbuntuDDE Theme on their Ubuntu 18.04 or higher desktop
 .
 It's 100% safe and not very complidoged.
 So no changing distro to experience the new UbuntuDDE or Deepin OS now
 Just follow these easy steps and install this theme
 https://youtu.be/S-wv9UfbN0k
 correction: xfce 4.14 can run either in gtk2 or gtk3 (re @Eickmeyer: 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot.)
 if a user has to search for the install shortcut in order to install, that isnt good UX (re @amit15334: Here is a video on how to install the new UbuntuDDE on your pc
 I hope this might help some of you guys who have got intrest in that
 https://youtu.be/W1triK54_14)
 Ok.  I'm going to setup a VM and test it again.  I'll use the newiest daily from today (re @bashfulrobot: I'm not aware of any issues (that's have been reported). But to be honest I have not really tested anything. Which theme are you attempting to use?)
 So can Gnome, but it primarily uses gtk3, just like mate and xfce do now. (re @philipz: correction: xfce 4.14 can run either in gtk2 or gtk3)
 I will copy the same .icons folders into budgie and into a xfce, and gnome VM.
 I'll record it with OBS to record results if it happens
 Just waiting for the zsync script to finish.  so far it looks like I guess I have the latest already  downloaded...
 welcome @megatobg
 Hi
 which flavor you testing today?
 I will be downloading lubuntu
 It's beta
 yes. 2 weeks to final.
 That's good
 I can stay on the 04 releases
 Just found out you're a design volunteer:
 For a bunch of other distros
 ex-design volunteer for libreoffice
 current xubuntu team member
 That's nice
 When I finish testing it might actually leave this group cuz I'm in lots of groups
 i contribute where i can and on things i use
 And I get so much notifidogions
 I have another laptop for Linux stuff and windows
 You can mute than leaving ? May be :D (re @megatobg: And I get so much notifidogions)

 thats fine. the group will be here if you want to join in on the testing fun next time (re @megatobg: When I finish testing it might actually leave this group cuz I'm in lots of groups)
 My main os is still windows cuz gaming and ease of use
 I use Linux for performance mostly and to mess around with some Linux stuff
 i wish there was a torrent for it because direct download is really slow for me:
 and this hapens with all the downloads related to linux distros or updates
 Just so you know, only every other xx.04 release is LTS. Odd-numbered years only last 9 months. (re @megatobg: I can stay on the 04 releases)
 there is a torrent of the beta (re @megatobg: )
 It already downloaded anyway
 Xubuntus new 20.04 wall is cool
 It’s on twitter
 https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1248521096472625154
 all xubuntu wallpapers come from one of the team members and they are always nice
 welcoem @xyz0192
 Hi!
 which ubuntu flavor are you testing today?
 Sadly, none
 @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using only web browser (firefox), and some video/music players.
 Oh, do share us the experience and experiment 😁😁 (re @MrkiMike: @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using only web browser (firefox), and some v
 Sounds like a long journey to do.. (re @MrkiMike: @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using only web browser (firefox), and some video/music players.)
 @MrkiMike assume if you try to upgrade it, it will jump from trusty to bionic, skipping xenial (re @MrkiMike: @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using 
 We'll see. It's T420, with ssd, so should be ok.
 Really? I don't think do-release-upgrade can do that. (re @philipz: @MrkiMike assume if you try to upgrade it, it will jump from trusty to bionic, skipping xenial)
 i installed the same app on 19.10 (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <lotuspsychje> @arnoldxxi: apt-cache doesnt find that package)
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> @arnoldxxi: yeah think they might have removed it from repos
 what is the reason for that
 hey lotuspsychje, how's the day going so far
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> @arnoldxxi: i dont know, you might want to talk to the #ubuntu-release guys
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> hey there philipz, all good on this side
[17:12] <Eickmeyer> lotuspsychje, @arnoldxxi: Confirmed, nitroshare was removed. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nitroshare
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> thank you Eickmeyer
[17:15] <Eickmeyer> lotuspsychje: for more info: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=942777
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> @arnoldxxi ^
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> tnx Eickmeyer
[17:16] <Eickmeyer> Wasn't ported to Python3 in time. This has happened with a lot of packages this cycle where people had over a decade to port to python3. Python2 is EOL.
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> i see
 Sounds good! (re @troyBORG: Ok.  I'm going to setup a VM and test it again.  I'll use the newiest daily from today)
[18:24] <BloatHunter> did ubuntu auto upgrade conf just get moved and turned off to usr/share/unattended-upgrades ?
 Martin will be streaming fixing MATE Brisk Menu soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKOzECd1OOE
 sudo apt install discord
 unable to find discord
[21:13] <oerheks> discord is a snap >> https://snapcraft.io/discord
 Try "sudo snap install discord" (re @arnoldxxi: sudo apt install discord)
 why  I cant find alot of packages
 thanks that works (re @Eickmeyer: Try "sudo snap install discord")
 but why bot apt
 not
 discord is closed-source and cannot be distributed via Ubuntu's repositories.
 Could some dev take a look at those below?
 I guess this one is real simple: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1871295
 This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso.
 For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492
 telegram also (re @Eickmeyer: discord is closed-source and cannot be distributed via Ubuntu's repositories.)
 That one is for i386, which is not supported on 20.04, so no. (re @FabioLima: This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso.
 For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492)
 I'm looking into triage on this one. (re @FabioLima: This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso.
 For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492)
 Thanks! 😉 (re @Eickmeyer: I'm looking into triage on this one.)
 I think it has something to do with the translations, which is fixed in a version of ubiquity sitting in the queue right now. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/473740247/ubiquity_20.04.10_source.changes (re @FabioLima: This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso.
 For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492)
 ^ Bad bot
 That's just the strange. I am doing a clean install of ubuntu 20.04 beta onto a new Dell Laptop (currently running 19.10) with nvidia graphics. I install it into an external USB SSD storage. It goes right well all the time and in the end show a failure message. Apport redirect to this ticket.
 Anyway after reboot, It looks fine with the installation. I tested pretty well. But I don't know if there's something malfunctional hidden. (re @Eickmeyer: That one is for i386, which is not supported on 20.04, so no.)
 Fine! I will monitor this one and test when available! (re @Eickmeyer: I think it has something to do with the translations, which is fixed in a version of ubiquity sitting in the queue right now. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/473740247/ubiquity_20.04.10_source.changes)
 I'm still trying to triage, because I'm not 100% sure on that.
 Ok! Any questions you can ask me.
 @FabioLima Is the keyboard layout fine when you first start-up the live environment? Or does the situation present only after the installation (in the installed environment)?
 After installation (and during it) It is pretty fine. Correct keyboard!
 It only happens in Live CD. I choose the language, but gnome uses the wrong keyboard.
 Ok, in that case it's not ubiquity, it's livecd-root-fs. I'll fix the bug.
 Tnks!
[21:34] <valorie> gads, it's almost impossible to read this channel with all the doubling/tripling/quadrupling of posts/partial posts
 @philipz ^ Might need to fix the bot, it is indeed double-posting.
 [telegram] <-- this being so looooong does not help
[21:35] <valorie> should be testbot [tg] or something
[21:35] <Eickmeyer> Which is why, aside from dev work, Ubuntu Studio no longer uses Telegram.
[21:35] <valorie> other bots don't do this
[21:35] <valorie> I see Matrix doing it though
[21:35] <valorie> esp. when people "edit" their posts
[21:35] <valorie> so annoying
[21:36] <valorie> but worse -- hard to make sense of
[21:37] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I usually warn people not to edit their posts as it causes Matrix to double-post. Telegram just likes to multi-line, and then ubot5 picks-up all the links and decides to talk about them.
[21:39] <valorie> bugbot is ok
[21:39] <valorie> ubot5 seems a bit chatty
[21:39] <valorie> don't worry, I won't!
[21:39] <valorie> lol
[21:41] <Eickmeyer> No sign of intelligence there.
[21:41] <valorie> heh
 double posting on telegram or irc? (re @Eickmeyer: @philipz ^ Might need to fix the bot, it is indeed double-posting.)
 welcome @surveyor3
 @Eickmeyer bot is controlled/hosted by @popeydc
 IRC (re @philipz: double posting on telegram or irc?)
 That explains a bit. j/k (re @philipz: @Eickmeyer bot is controlled/hosted by @popeydc)
 checked IRC but not seeing the doubles there (re @Eickmeyer: IRC)
 It only happens when someone replies to something and the original had a launchpad or other recognized bug link.
 yes telegram replies quote the original reply when shown on IRC and ubot5 will spit out the bug name again. that has been happening from the beginning, or am i missing something
 A japanase youtube channel compared all ubuntu flavors, including cinnamon-remix and with other LM and KDE Neon as its ram
 A japanase youtube channel compared all ubuntu flavors, including cinnamon-remix and with other LM and KDE Neon as its ram comparison (edited)
 And we placed pretty good. you leads can view the table and see where you rank. (most ram consumption on top)
 and @tsimonq2 , you placed with least ram usage :)
 dont really get how there is such a huge difference between task manager and screenfetch (re @ItzSwirlz: )
 and sometime screenfetch is larger than task manager. very strange
 i think task manager is neofetch
 but ofc, task manager will leave behind extra stuff
 anyways, thats the rankings
 honestly, for a mix of GNOME 3 and MATE, it placed pretty well.
 but i'll try in the future to limit the ram
 idk how linux mint cinnamon gets so low
 Probably its in their mint packages (mintsystem, mintnanny, etc)
 Is the DKSM exploit patched?
 What's the CVE #? (re @GalacticLion7: Is the DKSM exploit patched?)
 As always (re @ItzSwirlz: and @tsimonq2 , you placed with least ram usage :))
 Is the DKMS exploit patched? (edited)
 The reason I ask this is that as soon as I know that, the answer is extremely quick (re @tsimonq2: What's the CVE #?)
 Or, you could ask in #ubuntu-hardened on freenode
[23:51] <BloatHunter> Americans should get 12h default
 Probably. File a feature request with GNOME?
[23:53] <BloatHunter> Does the default gsetting com.ubuntu.touch gps true apply outside of ubuntu touch?
 Probably not
 Unlisted (re @tsimonq2: What's the CVE #?)
 Interesting, hm (re @GalacticLion7: Unlisted)
 /names
 ?
 I can't tell from here if any of the Ubuntu Security Team folks are in IRC (*AHEM* :) ) but they might be able to answer that better
[23:57] <BloatHunter> Ubuntu has a security team? Could've fooled me.
 It's a paid team of more than 10 people, yeah
[23:58] <BloatHunter> I'm sure for ubuntu advantage core snap deploys or juju they are a wonderful baker's dozen
 A lot of their work is seemingly invisible but there's a reason we get patches for stuff in Main super fast
 Yeah
 And to their credit, one of the friendliest teams I've ever worked with