[00:37] [telegram] Bug #1879618 [00:37] Error: Launchpad bug 1879618 could not be found [00:37] [telegram] Bug #187968 (edited) [00:37] bug 187968 in gvrng (Ubuntu) "Please sync gvrng 3.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187968 [00:37] [telegram] Ugh [00:37] [telegram] Bug #1871968 [00:37] bug 1871968 in grub-efi-amd64-signed (Ubuntu) "package grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.139+2.04-1ubuntu24 fails to upgrade on 20.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871968 [00:37] [telegram] There [00:38] [telegram] I just discover same issue in Kubuntu... [00:38] [telegram] Confirm it [00:38] [telegram] Who is the right person to contact for this? [00:38] [telegram] Done [00:40] [telegram] I supposed Wimpy, Rik or Alan will know who to contact. [00:52] [telegram] Won’t put anything down until I know. It’s 3 AM in the UK, so soon they’ll be online [01:18] [telegram] Looks like it's already being worked on. [01:18] [telegram] @ItzSwirlz @DarinMiller ^ [01:18] [telegram] I wouldn't bother our British friends with it. [01:19] [telegram] very good :) [01:42] [telegram] There you go. Great [01:44] [telegram] I also contacted someone I know who has been working on grub. [02:07] [telegram] Had a chance to test out the ZFS snapshot finally. [02:07] [telegram] I downloaded a GTK theme and icon pack that I'm running just fine in Xfce. [02:07] [telegram] And when I applied it onto Budgie, the icon pack crashed the desktop enviroment. And on reboot it goes into a login loop. [02:10] [telegram] Can Budgie not run GTK2 icons? [02:40] maybe ask in a budgie chan? [03:34] [telegram] 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot. (re @troyBORG: Can Budgie not run GTK2 icons?) [04:40] So 20.04 beta has the nautilus gnome terminal extension, but no way to enable it? [04:40] I mean obv I can enable it in gsettings but no gtk option anywhere [04:45] [telegram] I guess I was just going off what neofetch said. It listed my custom icons as gtk2 and adwita as gtk3.. (re @Eickmeyer: 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot.) [04:48] [telegram] [04:51] [telegram] красиво ))) [04:57] [telegram] I'll test it again in the morning. [04:57] [telegram] I'll boot up other Ubuntu distros and see if they crash, also will try Solus budgie see if it crashes with the icons... (re @Eickmeyer: 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot.) [05:04] [telegram] Here is a video on how to install the new UbuntuDDE on your pc [05:04] [telegram] I hope this might help some of you guys who have got intrest in that [05:04] [telegram] https://youtu.be/W1triK54_14 [05:25] [telegram] I'm not aware of any issues (that's have been reported). But to be honest I have not really tested anything. Which theme are you attempting to use? (re @troyBORG: Can Budgie not run GTK2 icons?) [06:06] Why are so many unneeded packages listed as requirements that haven't been relevant for a decade or longer? Gstreamer good requires two firewire packages? the industry group for firewire hasn't even existed for five years [06:16] [telegram] Anyone else bit by this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1871983 - Fortunately there is a sed command in the bug report to fix. [06:16] Ubuntu bug 1871963 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1871983 dpkg fails to install grub-efi-amd64 signed and shim-signed" [Undecided,Fix released] [06:18] duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1871963 , which has a comment from vorlon saying it's fixed in -proposed [06:18] Ubuntu bug 1871963 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu) "dpkg fails to install grub-efi-amd64 signed and shim-signed" [Undecided,Fix released] [07:02] BloatHunter: you perhaps should discuss this with the gstreamer devs ... or if there isnt a specific hard requirement in gstreamer land then raise an issue to the debian packagers [08:05] Why is the yaru theme a single package for gtk2 + 3 ? It pulls in another gtk2 theme and gtk2 theme engine as a depends [09:08] BloatHunter: sounds like a question for #ubuntu-devel perhaps [09:43] [telegram] Guys, i'm using ubuntu 20.04 and my net is using .local and not avahi, is that normal or bug? [09:44] Mine is only connecting at 100Mb not 1000 and doesn't have that combobox to manually pick :\ [09:44] [telegram] i've not selected it manually, he does this auto [09:45] [telegram] I don't think that this can be a problem, but is even better ask, no? [09:47] [telegram] I knows the there is a turnaroun modifing the /etc/default/avahi-daemon and adding AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0 [09:47] [telegram] I knows the there is a turnaround modifing the /etc/default/avahi-daemon and adding AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0 (edited) [10:11] There's a 404'd URL (also http) in the color-picker: gsettings get org.freedesktop.ColorHelper profile-upload-uri [10:12] The cert is also affiliated with a hypnotist birthing site, apparently thats a thing. === jphilips_ is now known as jphilips [12:12] [telegram] sudo apt install nitroshare isnt working [12:12] [telegram] 20.04 [12:17] @arnoldxxi: apt-cache doesnt find that package [13:23] [telegram] Bug #1835660 [13:23] bug 1835660 in linux (Ubuntu) "initramfs unpacking failed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835660 [13:33] Dr8g0n: place your bug ID here please, volunteers and devs might have tested it aswell [13:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1872076 [13:34] Ubuntu bug 1872076 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Multitouch gestures do not work on touchscreen in 20.04 X session" [Undecided,New] [13:35] anyone tested 20.04 on touch devices^ [13:43] [telegram] @ItzSwirlz when did you spin your iso last time ? [13:43] [telegram] Wednesday night [13:43] [telegram] Late EST [13:43] [telegram] I spun one yesterday when update-manager got patched (bug fix) [13:43] [telegram] Ah ok. [13:43] [telegram] But that’s just for me [14:10] [telegram] UbuntuDDE Theme [14:10] [telegram] Deepin OS Theme [14:10] [telegram] . [14:10] [telegram] I've made this tutorial to help people know how to get the Deepin OS or UbuntuDDE Theme on their Ubuntu 18.04 or higher desktop [14:10] [telegram] . [14:10] [telegram] It's 100% safe and not very complidoged. [14:10] [telegram] So no changing distro to experience the new UbuntuDDE or Deepin OS now [14:10] [telegram] Just follow these easy steps and install this theme [14:10] [telegram] https://youtu.be/S-wv9UfbN0k === Eickmeyer[q] is now known as Eickmeyer [15:44] [telegram] correction: xfce 4.14 can run either in gtk2 or gtk3 (re @Eickmeyer: 1) There's no such thing as GTK2 icons, only GTK2 themes. 2) Xfce 4.14 runs GTK3. 3) You may have found a bug, but I'd check with @bashfulrobot.) [15:46] [telegram] if a user has to search for the install shortcut in order to install, that isnt good UX (re @amit15334: Here is a video on how to install the new UbuntuDDE on your pc [15:46] [telegram] I hope this might help some of you guys who have got intrest in that [15:46] [telegram] https://youtu.be/W1triK54_14) [15:51] [telegram] Ok. I'm going to setup a VM and test it again. I'll use the newiest daily from today (re @bashfulrobot: I'm not aware of any issues (that's have been reported). But to be honest I have not really tested anything. Which theme are you attempting to use?) [15:53] [telegram] So can Gnome, but it primarily uses gtk3, just like mate and xfce do now. (re @philipz: correction: xfce 4.14 can run either in gtk2 or gtk3) [15:55] [telegram] I will copy the same .icons folders into budgie and into a xfce, and gnome VM. [15:55] [telegram] I'll record it with OBS to record results if it happens [15:56] [telegram] Just waiting for the zsync script to finish. so far it looks like I guess I have the latest already downloaded... [16:00] [telegram] welcome @megatobg [16:00] [telegram] Hi [16:01] [telegram] which flavor you testing today? [16:01] [telegram] I will be downloading lubuntu [16:01] [telegram] It's beta [16:01] [telegram] yes. 2 weeks to final. [16:01] [telegram] That's good [16:02] [telegram] I can stay on the 04 releases [16:04] [telegram] Just found out you're a design volunteer: [16:04] [telegram] For a bunch of other distros [16:04] [telegram] ex-design volunteer for libreoffice [16:04] [telegram] current xubuntu team member [16:05] [telegram] That's nice [16:06] [telegram] When I finish testing it might actually leave this group cuz I'm in lots of groups [16:06] [telegram] i contribute where i can and on things i use [16:06] [telegram] And I get so much notifidogions [16:06] [telegram] I have another laptop for Linux stuff and windows [16:06] [telegram] You can mute than leaving ? May be :D (re @megatobg: And I get so much notifidogions) [16:06] [telegram] [16:06] [telegram] thats fine. the group will be here if you want to join in on the testing fun next time (re @megatobg: When I finish testing it might actually leave this group cuz I'm in lots of groups) [16:07] [telegram] My main os is still windows cuz gaming and ease of use [16:08] [telegram] I use Linux for performance mostly and to mess around with some Linux stuff [16:16] [telegram] i wish there was a torrent for it because direct download is really slow for me: [16:16] [telegram] and this hapens with all the downloads related to linux distros or updates [16:41] [telegram] Just so you know, only every other xx.04 release is LTS. Odd-numbered years only last 9 months. (re @megatobg: I can stay on the 04 releases) [16:43] [telegram] there is a torrent of the beta (re @megatobg: ) [16:43] [telegram] It already downloaded anyway [16:51] [telegram] Xubuntus new 20.04 wall is cool [16:52] [telegram] It’s on twitter [16:52] [telegram] https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1248521096472625154 [16:53] [telegram] all xubuntu wallpapers come from one of the team members and they are always nice [17:00] [telegram] welcoem @xyz0192 [17:00] [telegram] Hi! [17:01] [telegram] which ubuntu flavor are you testing today? [17:02] [telegram] Sadly, none [17:02] [telegram] @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using only web browser (firefox), and some video/music players. [17:03] [telegram] Oh, do share us the experience and experiment 😁😁 (re @MrkiMike: @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using only web browser (firefox), and some v [17:04] [telegram] Sounds like a long journey to do.. (re @MrkiMike: @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using only web browser (firefox), and some video/music players.) [17:04] [telegram] @MrkiMike assume if you try to upgrade it, it will jump from trusty to bionic, skipping xenial (re @MrkiMike: @philipz I'll test focal-MATE this evening or tomorrow - it's my inlaws laptop, they're running Trusty on it, so I'll go upgrading it to xenial->bionic->focal. I'm eagar to see what will fall apart. Good thing is that they don't have much software installed as they're using [17:04] [telegram] We'll see. It's T420, with ssd, so should be ok. [17:04] [telegram] Really? I don't think do-release-upgrade can do that. (re @philipz: @MrkiMike assume if you try to upgrade it, it will jump from trusty to bionic, skipping xenial) [17:05] [telegram] i installed the same app on 19.10 (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] @arnoldxxi: apt-cache doesnt find that package) [17:06] @arnoldxxi: yeah think they might have removed it from repos [17:07] [telegram] what is the reason for that [17:09] [telegram] hey lotuspsychje, how's the day going so far [17:09] @arnoldxxi: i dont know, you might want to talk to the #ubuntu-release guys [17:09] hey there philipz, all good on this side [17:12] lotuspsychje, @arnoldxxi: Confirmed, nitroshare was removed. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nitroshare [17:12] thank you Eickmeyer [17:15] lotuspsychje: for more info: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=942777 [17:15] Debian bug 942777 in src:nitroshare "nitroshare-nautilus: Please port to python3-nautlius" [Serious,Fixed] [17:15] @arnoldxxi ^ [17:15] tnx Eickmeyer [17:16] Wasn't ported to Python3 in time. This has happened with a lot of packages this cycle where people had over a decade to port to python3. Python2 is EOL. [17:16] i see [17:24] [telegram] Sounds good! (re @troyBORG: Ok. I'm going to setup a VM and test it again. I'll use the newiest daily from today) [18:24] did ubuntu auto upgrade conf just get moved and turned off to usr/share/unattended-upgrades ? [19:09] [telegram] Martin will be streaming fixing MATE Brisk Menu soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKOzECd1OOE [21:12] [telegram] sudo apt install discord [21:12] [telegram] unable to find discord [21:13] discord is a snap >> https://snapcraft.io/discord [21:18] [telegram] Try "sudo snap install discord" (re @arnoldxxi: sudo apt install discord) [21:18] [telegram] why I cant find alot of packages [21:19] [telegram] thanks that works (re @Eickmeyer: Try "sudo snap install discord") [21:19] [telegram] but why bot apt [21:19] [telegram] not [21:19] [telegram] discord is closed-source and cannot be distributed via Ubuntu's repositories. [21:20] [telegram] Could some dev take a look at those below? [21:20] [telegram] I guess this one is real simple: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1871295 [21:20] Ubuntu bug 1871295 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Live CD 20.04 don't set correct keyboard layout after ubiquity" [Undecided,New] [21:21] [telegram] This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso. [21:21] [telegram] For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket: [21:21] [telegram] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492 [21:21] Ubuntu bug 998492 in Baltix "Fails to detect package download errors on architectures other than amd64" [Undecided,New] [21:22] [telegram] telegram also (re @Eickmeyer: discord is closed-source and cannot be distributed via Ubuntu's repositories.) [21:23] [telegram] That one is for i386, which is not supported on 20.04, so no. (re @FabioLima: This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso. [21:23] [telegram] For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket: [21:23] [telegram] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492) [21:23] Ubuntu bug 998492 in Baltix "Fails to detect package download errors on architectures other than amd64" [Undecided,New] [21:23] [telegram] I'm looking into triage on this one. (re @FabioLima: This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso. [21:23] [telegram] For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket: [21:23] [telegram] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492) [21:24] [telegram] Thanks! 😉 (re @Eickmeyer: I'm looking into triage on this one.) [21:25] [telegram] I think it has something to do with the translations, which is fixed in a version of ubiquity sitting in the queue right now. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/473740247/ubiquity_20.04.10_source.changes (re @FabioLima: This one is more complidoged and I am willingful to do new tests using recent iso. [21:25] [telegram] For some strange reason when doing apport against ubiquity I am redirected to this very old ticket: [21:25] [telegram] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/998492) [21:25] Ubuntu bug 998492 in Baltix "Fails to detect package download errors on architectures other than amd64" [Undecided,New] [21:25] [telegram] ^ Bad bot [21:28] [telegram] That's just the strange. I am doing a clean install of ubuntu 20.04 beta onto a new Dell Laptop (currently running 19.10) with nvidia graphics. I install it into an external USB SSD storage. It goes right well all the time and in the end show a failure message. Apport redirect to this ticket. [21:28] [telegram] Anyway after reboot, It looks fine with the installation. I tested pretty well. But I don't know if there's something malfunctional hidden. (re @Eickmeyer: That one is for i386, which is not supported on 20.04, so no.) [21:29] [telegram] Fine! I will monitor this one and test when available! (re @Eickmeyer: I think it has something to do with the translations, which is fixed in a version of ubiquity sitting in the queue right now. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/473740247/ubiquity_20.04.10_source.changes) [21:29] [telegram] I'm still trying to triage, because I'm not 100% sure on that. [21:30] [telegram] Ok! Any questions you can ask me. [21:30] [telegram] @FabioLima Is the keyboard layout fine when you first start-up the live environment? Or does the situation present only after the installation (in the installed environment)? [21:32] [telegram] After installation (and during it) It is pretty fine. Correct keyboard! [21:32] [telegram] It only happens in Live CD. I choose the language, but gnome uses the wrong keyboard. [21:33] [telegram] Ok, in that case it's not ubiquity, it's livecd-root-fs. I'll fix the bug. [21:33] [telegram] Tnks! [21:34] gads, it's almost impossible to read this channel with all the doubling/tripling/quadrupling of posts/partial posts [21:34] [telegram] @philipz ^ Might need to fix the bot, it is indeed double-posting. [21:34] [telegram] <-- this being so looooong does not help [21:35] should be testbot [tg] or something [21:35] Which is why, aside from dev work, Ubuntu Studio no longer uses Telegram. [21:35] other bots don't do this [21:35] I see Matrix doing it though [21:35] esp. when people "edit" their posts [21:35] so annoying [21:36] but worse -- hard to make sense of [21:37] Yeah, I usually warn people not to edit their posts as it causes Matrix to double-post. Telegram just likes to multi-line, and then ubot5 picks-up all the links and decides to talk about them. [21:39] bugbot is ok [21:39] ubot5 seems a bit chatty [21:39] valorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [21:39] don't worry, I won't! [21:39] lol [21:41] No sign of intelligence there. [21:41] heh [22:49] [telegram] double posting on telegram or irc? (re @Eickmeyer: @philipz ^ Might need to fix the bot, it is indeed double-posting.) [22:49] [telegram] welcome @surveyor3 [22:50] [telegram] @Eickmeyer bot is controlled/hosted by @popeydc [22:51] [telegram] IRC (re @philipz: double posting on telegram or irc?) [22:51] [telegram] That explains a bit. j/k (re @philipz: @Eickmeyer bot is controlled/hosted by @popeydc) [22:52] [telegram] checked IRC but not seeing the doubles there (re @Eickmeyer: IRC) [22:53] [telegram] It only happens when someone replies to something and the original had a launchpad or other recognized bug link. [23:00] [telegram] yes telegram replies quote the original reply when shown on IRC and ubot5 will spit out the bug name again. that has been happening from the beginning, or am i missing something [23:00] [telegram] A japanase youtube channel compared all ubuntu flavors, including cinnamon-remix and with other LM and KDE Neon as its ram [23:00] [telegram] A japanase youtube channel compared all ubuntu flavors, including cinnamon-remix and with other LM and KDE Neon as its ram comparison (edited) [23:00] [telegram] And we placed pretty good. you leads can view the table and see where you rank. (most ram consumption on top) [23:01] [telegram] and @tsimonq2 , you placed with least ram usage :) [23:02] [telegram] dont really get how there is such a huge difference between task manager and screenfetch (re @ItzSwirlz: ) [23:03] [telegram] and sometime screenfetch is larger than task manager. very strange [23:03] [telegram] i think task manager is neofetch [23:03] [telegram] but ofc, task manager will leave behind extra stuff [23:03] [telegram] anyways, thats the rankings [23:04] [telegram] honestly, for a mix of GNOME 3 and MATE, it placed pretty well. [23:04] [telegram] but i'll try in the future to limit the ram [23:04] [telegram] idk how linux mint cinnamon gets so low [23:04] [telegram] Probably its in their mint packages (mintsystem, mintnanny, etc) [23:49] [telegram] Is the DKSM exploit patched? [23:49] [telegram] What's the CVE #? (re @GalacticLion7: Is the DKSM exploit patched?) [23:50] [telegram] As always (re @ItzSwirlz: and @tsimonq2 , you placed with least ram usage :)) [23:50] [telegram] Is the DKMS exploit patched? (edited) [23:50] [telegram] The reason I ask this is that as soon as I know that, the answer is extremely quick (re @tsimonq2: What's the CVE #?) [23:51] [telegram] Or, you could ask in #ubuntu-hardened on freenode [23:51] Americans should get 12h default [23:52] [telegram] Probably. File a feature request with GNOME? [23:53] Does the default gsetting com.ubuntu.touch gps true apply outside of ubuntu touch? [23:54] [telegram] Probably not [23:56] [telegram] Unlisted (re @tsimonq2: What's the CVE #?) [23:56] [telegram] Interesting, hm (re @GalacticLion7: Unlisted) [23:56] [telegram] /names [23:56] [telegram] ? [23:57] [telegram] I can't tell from here if any of the Ubuntu Security Team folks are in IRC (*AHEM* :) ) but they might be able to answer that better [23:57] Ubuntu has a security team? Could've fooled me. [23:58] [telegram] It's a paid team of more than 10 people, yeah [23:58] I'm sure for ubuntu advantage core snap deploys or juju they are a wonderful baker's dozen [23:58] [telegram] A lot of their work is seemingly invisible but there's a reason we get patches for stuff in Main super fast [23:59] [telegram] Yeah [23:59] [telegram] And to their credit, one of the friendliest teams I've ever worked with