[00:05] <AssociateX> Hello all. I just need some direction. My desktop, Plasma was working fine before I went to bed, did not updates. Woke up this morning and Linux boots to the DM but Plasma does not start, the screen freezes on the KDE/Plasma splash. I can log into Blackbox and Fluxbox just fine, but I can't exit and go back the DM or switch from Flux to BB because
[00:05] <AssociateX> the screen freezes.
[00:10] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: have you tried creating a new account on the machine and logging in with the new account into Plasma... if the new account works it would indicate something in your home directory has a problem
[00:23] <mnathani> This is my routing table: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sKV4dqZdWX/  I am trying to load balance traffic across the two gateways .253 and .216, presently traffic goes only via the first route
[00:25] <tds> mnathani: i'm not sure `route` understands any of the options you'd use for balancing traffic - could you pastebin `ip route` output?
[00:26] <mnathani> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8xsJJPCw7t/
[00:26] <tds> ok, that looks like you just have two default routes, there won't be any balancing between them
[00:26] <mnathani> is it complex to setup balancing?
[00:26] <tds> if you want a multipath route, you could eg `ip route add default nexthop via 192.168.2.253 dev ens18 nexthop via 192.168.2.216 dev ens18`
[00:28] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma great idea! I will do that right now.
[00:28] <mnathani> looks good https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8GPqDfqVs5/
[00:29] <tds> do `ip route get ...` against a few IPs, and with any luck you should see it splitting traffic between the routers :)
[00:35] <lestac> Any knows some softaware for exploration the world ?
[00:36] <lestac> software*
[00:37] <minall> Hello Ubuntu Community!
[00:37] <minall> I can find support for the fingerprint reader vfs495..
[00:42] <sarnold> minall: there may be a list of supported devices on https://fprint.freedesktop.org/
[00:42] <minall> Thanks sarnold!, let me check If my device works
[00:43] <vlouvet> minall, I'd start here https://github.com/PetreBoboc/vfs495/blob/master/vfs495_ubuntu_18.04.md for that particular device
[00:43] <sarnold> oh nice, vlouvet's url looks more promising :)
[00:44] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma I really appreciate your help. I'm going to restart and see what happens.
[00:44] <vlouvet> I can do one hell of a google search haha
[00:50] <minall> Thanks vlouvet, I'll restard hoping that it will work
[00:51] <mnathani> tds: how do I get that ip route add default next hop to take effect on boot?
[00:51] <tds> what are you using to bring up your interfaces on boot?
[00:51] <mnathani> network/interfaces
[00:52] <tds> I just wouldn't specify a gateway, and add up and down hooks that call ip route add/delete default...
[00:59] <jstarcher> quit
[01:00] <mnathani> I get some errors : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qCXzKDbXCH/
[01:00] <mnathani> I am guessing my syntax is incorrect
[01:01] <jstarcher> hello
[01:03] <jstarcher> help
[01:04] <jstarcher> anyone here?
[01:05] <sarnold> jstarcher: over a thousand clients, dunno who's looking, or who might able to help you with your problem..
[01:05] <sarnold> jstarcher: irc works best if you just ask questions
[01:06] <jstarcher> sarnold: for some reason I'm in #ubuntu-unregged even though I'm registerd
[01:06] <jstarcher> and I can't see other chats going on
[01:06] <jstarcher> or is there just no one talking now?
[01:07] <sarnold> jstarcher: you'vew just got a knack for quitting at the wrong time :) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6YfsxPmwx/
[01:07] <Croran> Is there a way to disable the 'restart now' prompt that appears after updates have been installed?
[01:08] <jstarcher> sarnold: haha I guess, thanks for the sanity check
[01:09] <jstarcher> anyway, the reason I'm here. I destroyed my ubuntu 19.04 system by installing a debian package like this: dpkg -i libcurl3-gnutls_7.64.0-4_amd64.deb
[01:09] <jstarcher> now I just get an error anytime I try to use apt: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:09] <jstarcher>  libcurl3-gnutls : Depends: libgnutls30 (>= 3.6.6) but 3.6.5-2ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: how'd it turn out?
[01:09] <jstarcher> I've tried fix-broken, apt-install -f and all of that. Nothing works
[01:09] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma that did not work out at all. The new user did not work, not even with Flux after failing Plasma. Then my user name no longer worked for any DE either. I had to drop to a root shell and delete the new user.
[01:10] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: That's rather strange
[01:11] <jstarcher> I tried removing the package too but get errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xhvKRw5GFw/
[01:13] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma yes. I'm guessing it is driver related to the Nvidia card but I have no proof yet. The frame buffer splash at boot time is especially slow for some reason is one clue, again with no proof other than that.
[01:13] <sarnold> jstarcher: alright .. give me a second..
[01:13] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: that's unforunate
[01:14] <AssociateX> For sure.
[01:14] <sarnold> jstarcher: try installing this package https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/17748861/+files/libcurl3-gnutls_7.64.0-2ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb
[01:15] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma, I'm a hobbyist, and although I have been at this a long time, it's not something that I do daily. So I don't know which logs to check or if I should be asking elsewhere or what.
[01:17] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: i'm not great when it comes to hardware and drivers... software stuff is where my strengths are
[01:17] <Bashing-om> !19.04 | jstarcher
[01:19] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma, would you like to do a couple of other simple checks for software? My assumptions should not rule out looking there.
[01:20] <jstarcher> sarnold: OMG THAT WORKED!!!!
[01:20] <sarnold> jstarcher: sweet
[01:20] <jstarcher> thank you soooo much! This has had me hung up for days
[01:20] <sarnold> jstarcher: next step, take Bashing-om's advice and upgrade to 19.10 :)
[01:21] <sarnold> jstarcher: was it enough to just dpkg -i that file? or did you need to do something to convince it to downgrade?
[01:21] <sarnold> I've not done that in ages..
[01:21] <jstarcher> yeaaaa, good idea. I'll backup and get that going
[01:21] <AssociateX> Is there a howto for upgrading from 18.10 LTS to 19.10?
[01:21] <jstarcher> just dpkg -i worked
[01:21] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: usually a new user setup can do the trick. the other thing i've done the past is temporarily move my home directory to something like /home/user_bak ... from the terminal and then restart the gui and log-in
[01:22] <sarnold> jstarcher: cool cool
[01:22] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma I sure can do that, mv /home/user* to /home/userBAK.
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: no need for the * ... just make sure there is no trailling slash
[01:24] <tds> mnathani: oops, missed that - RTNETLINK answers: File exists usually means it's attempting to add an ip or route that already exists - if you have physical access to this box, you could try forcing the interface down, ie ifdown --force --verbose ens18; ip link set ens18 down; ip addr flush dev ens18, then ifup --verbose it to bring it back up and
[01:24] <tds> see exactly where it goes wrong
[01:26] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma are you going to be around a while?
[01:27] <AssociateX> an hour or so?
[01:27] <pragmaticenigma> roughly sure
[01:29] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma what is CLI to rename the dir /home/username?
[01:30] <AssociateX> will mv mess with permissions? or will that just rename the dir?
[01:30] <AssociateX> I forget.
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: just do "mv /home/associatex /home/associatex_bak"
[01:31] <AssociateX> thank you.
[01:31] <lestac> it's a good moment to try beta or wait final version?
[01:32] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma okay, bbl. Hopefully less than 10 minutes
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> lestac: I recommend waiting for the final release. If you have further questions about Focal Fossa 20.04, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <lestac> well, thanks! :D
[01:53] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma well, I'm a diagnostic tech and it really bothers me to not try something when there is some aspect that I can't predict. I didn't think mv 'ing the user dir would help, and it didn't. But what did happen is that I see that there is something else going on. I can't make a new user and login in, and I can't make a new dir for my user
[01:53] <AssociateX> and login, but with my original ~/ I can login to Flux real quick. The other logins froze with login into Flux or KDE. I didn't try BB though. Anyway, I still got information to think about.
[01:54] <AssociateX> I still can't login into Plasma under any situation.
[01:54] <AssociateX> ...that I've tried.
[02:00] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: I guess that means something deeper is working against you
[02:01] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: After moving the home directory... were you able to login with one of the other DEs and have it create your user folder?
[02:01] <AssociateX> I would say that it would now be hard to point to a driver when it works with this user by not others.
[02:02] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma no, a new user folder was not created. Good question because I forgot to report that to you.
[02:03] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma I was not able to login with any DE and no new user dir was created.
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> interesting
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> it is very strange for it to do this on its own, with no updates having been applied
[02:06] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma I'm sober and have been for a long time. But how would we check change logs for anything installed. I don't want to rule anything out even if I don't remember doing it.
[02:07] <pragmaticenigma> tripelbb: I was able to tinker around a little bit more and was able to figure out how to get that application installed. From the command line use the "sudo apt install ./package.deb" approach. That seemed to kick off the installation for me and was able to obtain the dependencies the package needed as well
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: I blieve package installations all get logged in /var/log/dpkg.log
[02:09] <AssociateX> Okay, looking up right now.
[02:14] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma I did installed some stuff. nmap to port sniff my friends server, then tidy for html code. I'm going to have to figure out if there is anything else here that would wonk things out: https://pastebin.com/tfPdPAec
[02:15] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: did you add any PPAs to get either of those tools installed?
[02:17] <AssociateX> Refresh my memory for PPA
[02:17] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma^^^
[02:17] <pragmaticenigma> !ppa
[02:18] <AssociateX> I down loaded tidy to my home dir and installed from there.
[02:18] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: was the a build? compiled from source?
[02:19] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma I think it was a binary, let me check right now.
[02:22] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma it was a binary.
[02:22] <pragmaticenigma> I'm really not sure what might have happened... it would be really odd for either of those to really have any effect on KDE/Plasma
[02:23] <AssociateX> Right, it's just a code formatting tool, cli
[02:23] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: at this point you might have to dig through the older files. I know that sometimes certain updates without a reboot will eventually cause strange behavior. Especially if any graphics drivers were installed
[02:24] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: and while odd, maybe a reboot is what the system needs at the moment. Hard to say
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> unfortunately, I've gotta sign off for the evening. I do wish you luck AssociateX
[02:26] <AssociateX> pragmaticenigma hey
[02:26] <AssociateX> I know what it is.
[02:27] <Bashing-om> AssociateX: A thought - loose ownership of /home when installing the tool ? What shows ' ls -al /home /home/AssociateX/ ' ?
[02:27] <AssociateX> I messed with snap yesterday without knowing what it was. I'm going to reinstall it.
[02:27] <AssociateX> Bashing-om I'm going to try something then report back
[02:28] <rud0lf> what's "factory setting" (fresh install) of iptables in ubuntu? just null?
[02:29] <rud0lf> nvm i found it, it's just "empty"
[02:30] <pavlos> rud0lf: sudo iptables -L
[02:53] <AssociateX> Hello people. I borked my Plasma yesterday by deleting a Snap dir somewhere. I'm on 18.10 LTS. Do you have any suggestions. I bring up that I'm on 18.10 because I have not been able to install packages with Muon, just apt-get and it's not my strong suit.
[02:53] <adminka-xu12> hello, i am newbie in irc #ubuntu, may i know telegram group for Ubuntu International like this...
[03:00] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: What is the output of "cat /etc/issue"?
[03:02] <AssociateX> Ubuntu 18.10 which is no longer supported.
[03:02] <AssociateX> Jordan_U^^^
[03:03] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Indeed, Ubuntu 18.10 is not an LTS release, and is EOL. We can help you upgrade to a supported version of Ubuntu, but it plasma is already broken then a re-install (preserving /home/) may make more sense than multiple upgrades.
[03:03] <Jordan_U> s/it plasma/if plasma/
[03:04] <AssociateX> Let's try to upgrade.
[03:04] <AssociateX> Jordan_U
[03:05] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: You can also upgrade entirely in a terminal using do-release-upgrade. I think that's probably advisable if your plasma isn't working. I assume you're using Kubuntu. Is that correct?
[03:06] <AssociateX> I think that I'm using Ubuntu with KDE installed, not a Kubuntu install.
[03:06] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Do you have a working LiveUSB ready in case things go wrong? Do you happen to use btrfs (in which case snapshots can be helpful, and IIRC will be created automatically for you during upgrade).
[03:06] <AssociateX> It's been a long time, how would we check? Jordan_U
[03:07] <ajayahmed> hi. can someone please tell me why i keep getting an inconsistent indentation on "nameservers:" https://i.imgur.com/d6o7QgG.png the _ next to it is just the cursor and because I can't get the network up, I can't SSH and pastebin the text so I took a screenshot. hope that's okay
[03:07] <AssociateX> Jordan_U I have two hd, one solid state, another disc with 1tb mostly free.
[03:08] <AssociateX> Jordan_U what do you think about doing a repair before upgrading?
[03:08] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: What is the output of "dpkg -l | grep buntu-desktop" ?
[03:08] <AssociateX> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu cosmic ,for reference
[03:09] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Two problems with that. 1: We explicitly don't support EOL releases, except to help upgrading to a supported release 2: Frankly, I don't have a lot of experience with KDE or snaps myself (though I have some).
[03:09] <AssociateX>  dpkg -l | grep -i ubuntu-desktop does not give anything.
[03:10] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Then you don't have any of the major desktop "metapackages" installed. A normal Ubuntu install has the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, Kubuntu kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, etc.
[03:10] <AssociateX> Jordan_U, I would only repair this old version to aid in upgrading. I had no idea I was so far out of date.
[03:11] <AssociateX> I prefer the latest stable.
[03:12] <AssociateX> Jordan_U yeah, that sounds right. I think I did a small Ubuntu install then put on KDE, Fluxbox, and Blackbox.
[03:12] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Why do you prefer upgrading (to Ubuntu 19.04, then 19.10, then in less than a month 20.04 LTS will be availalble) to installing fresh?
[03:15] <AssociateX> Jordan_U I dual boot on a Dell. I've made errors before where the laptop no longer works after a fresh install and takes reinstalling Window just to get the thing to work. The mistake is easy to make, I've done it twice and both times took me a long time to fix. I have to use someone else's Windows machine to even download the file from Dell, it's
[03:15] <AssociateX> and insane process if I make a mistake that way.
[03:17] <AssociateX> Jordan_U I would prefer to take the safest route even if it's longer.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: I think that you should prepare for the upgrade to fail, and be ready with installation media (I'd recommend *buntu 18.04 LTS, which you'll be able to directly upgrade to 20.04 LTS).
[03:18] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: And while you're preparing that, maybe download said file from Windows now and back it up somewhere.
[03:19] <AssociateX> Jordan_U that all sounds completely sane.
[03:19] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: What is the output of "dpkg -l | grep kde"?
[03:20] <AssociateX> Jordan_U there looks to be about 100 lines of info. Is there something that you want to grep for specifically?
[03:22] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | AssociateX
[03:24] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: I want to get an idea of how much of the KDE desktop you have installed at the moment, I don't have specific packages in mind right now and I think it would be easier for me to look through the output than do research to find specific packages to ask you about.
[03:26] <AssociateX> Jordan_U https://pastebin.com/rDVcyLQz
[03:32] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Do you have the "plasma-desktop" package installed? Do you have any snaps still installed?
[03:33] <AssociateX> I don't know.
[03:34] <AssociateX> ^^^@jord
[03:34] <AssociateX> Jordan_U
[03:34] <AssociateX> Jordan_U yes, I do.
[03:35] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: "apt policy plasma-desktop" it will either tell you the version you have installed (among other information) or "Installed: (none)". (You could also do "dpkg -l | grep plasma-desktop" ).
[03:36] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: You do have plasma-desktop installed or you do have snaps still installed?
[03:36] <AssociateX> Jordan_U now I don't know
[03:36] <AssociateX> :~$ apt policy plasma-desktopplasma-desktop:  Installed: (none)  Candidate: (none)  Version table:     4:5.13.5-1ubuntu4 -1        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:37] <AssociateX>  dpkg -l | grep plasma-desktoprc  plasma-desktop                                              4:5.13.5-1ubuntu4
[03:38] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Does it say "II" (for installed) at the beginning of the dpkg -l output?
[03:38] <AssociateX> Jordan_U how would I set my respositories to the old ones and repair the packages?
[03:39] <AssociateX> here is the dpkg output: rc  plasma-desktop                                              4:5.13.5-1ubuntu4                                   amd64        Tools and widgets for the desktop
[03:40] <AssociateX> Jordan_U I do not see a "II" on that line or elsewhere.
[03:40] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: That means that it was installed in the past, and the configuration files for it are still around, but it has since been removed.
[03:40] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: That may well explain why plasma "isn't working", though that's still not really our goal at the moment...
[03:42] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: Please prepare a *buntu 18.04 LTS or *buntu 19.10 LiveUSB, grab your file from Windows and back it up, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades .
[03:43] <AssociateX> Jordan_U that will take a while for me.
[03:43] <AssociateX> Jordan_U Thank you for your help.
[03:43] <Jordan_U> AssociateX: You're welcome. Good luck. Feel free to ping me another day if you're still working on this upgrade.
[03:44] <AssociateX> Will do.
[04:44] <AssociateX> I'm on 18.10, is there a reason why Muon does not authenticate for package removal and refuses to remove packages?
[04:51] <vysty> I'm looking to install Japanese input on Ubuntu 18.04. Is anyone able to help me navigate this? I've managed to install it but I'm not able to figure out how to change the actual input when I select Japanese. When I type, it still comes out in English.
[04:56] <vlouvet>   j
[04:56] <vysty> J like... Japanese?
[05:11] <vysty> Anyone kicking around?
[05:13] <Jordan_U> vysty: Are you fluent in Japanese, and do you have another machine that you can communicate in Japanese comfortably with? If so, #ubuntu-jp might be the best place to get help for this.
[05:13] <vysty> Definitely not fluent.
[05:14] <vysty> My wife is Japanese and wants me to get Japanese input on my computer.
[05:14] <vysty> And she speaks no Ubuntuese. :P
[05:15] <Jordan_U> vysty: I have no personal experience with this so the best I can do is google and help with more general Ubuntu aspects of the problem. I assume you've seen https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032721/how-to-enable-japanese-input-in-ubuntu-mate-18-04 . If so, was it helpful?
[05:16] <Jordan_U> vysty: Ahh, that was for MATE. What desktop environment are you using?
[05:16] <vysty> Jordan_U: Yes. The issue that I seem to be having when I compare to everything that I Google, is that there are multiple Japense inputs available once you install Japanese. The input you want is (mozc). I don't have (mozc) available.
[05:17] <vysty> So now I'm wondering if/how to install mozc to have it available.
[05:17] <Jordan_U> vysty: So step 7 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput can't be followed because mozc is not among the available options?
[05:18] <vysty> Jordan_U: correct
[05:20] <Jordan_U> vysty: What options for japanese are listed?
[05:21] <vysty> Ohhhh.... we got Japanese w/nothing, Japanese (Dvorak), (Kana 86), (Kana), (Macintosh), (OADG 109A), and (PC-98)
[05:23] <vysty> Jordan_U: Kana will actually write some Japanese characters, but not in any way that's remotely useful.
[05:23] <Jordan_U> vysty: And you logged out and back in again, following step #5 ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput again )?
[05:23] <vysty> No I did not. Let me try that now.
[05:24] <vysty> Jordan_U: that allowed me to search for the Japanese options faster, but still not mozc.
[05:24] <vysty> no*
[05:25] <vysty> Jordan_U: Allllllrighty. I found a mozc source package. You have the ability to help me install this thing? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/mozc
[05:27] <Jordan_U> vysty: Try just "sudo apt install ibus-mozc" before you do that.
[05:28] <vysty> Jordan_U: Already the newest version. :/
[05:28] <Jordan_U> vysty: Are you using a Wayland session?
[05:29] <vysty> Jordan_U: I'm unfamiliar with Wayland sessions so... probably not?
[05:30] <vysty> Jordan_U: Do you advise not installing this mozc .tar.xz I found on the launchpad?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> vysty: Definitely do not install anything from source right now.
[05:32] <vysty> Jordan_U: Gotcha. I'll wait.
[05:34] <Jordan_U> vysty: What is the output of "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE" ?
[05:35] <vysty> x11
[05:36] <Jordan_U> vysty: Then you are not using Wayland.
[05:37] <vysty> Jordan_U: That good or bad?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> vysty: It means that Wayland isn't causing your problem, and thus switching to Xorg won't help.
[05:38] <vysty> Jordan_U: Welp, that's step 1.
[05:40] <Jordan_U> vysty: Since you mentioned that you hadn't logged out and back in again, try following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput exactly, even if it means repeating steps you've already performed. Maybe there's something else you missed. I will note that https://moritzmolch.com/2404 has multiple commenters describing what seems to be the same problem you're having, and the only one of them that
[05:40] <Jordan_U> posted that they found a solution said the "solution" was re-installing :(
[05:41] <vysty> Jordan_U: Reinstalling Ubuntu?
[05:41] <Jordan_U> vysty: Yes.
[05:41] <vysty> Jordan_U: Blarghopotomos.
[05:43] <vysty> Jordan_U: I'll tackle this another day. I appreciate your time to help me out.
[05:44] <Jordan_U> vysty: Worth testing this from an Ubuntu 18.04 LiveUSB, see if you can reproduce the problem.
[05:44] <vysty> Jordan_U: Might be easier to figure out how to get my wife's computer connected to the printer so we can just bypass the situation on my computer entirely.
[05:55] <raddy> Can ntldr in windows 10 load ubuntu ?
[05:55] <raddy> Or only ubuntu should be in the mbr ?
[05:56] <dax> i think people have done it before, but you're much better off just putting Ubuntu's GRUB into the MBR and letting it chainload to ntldr if you want to run Windows.
[05:57] <Jordan_U> raddy: The simplest configuration, which Ubuntu's installer creates, is grub in the mbr (+ post mbr gap), which chainloads Windows' bootloader. I wouldn't recommend trying something different. Is there are reason that you want Windows' boot sector in the MBR?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> s/are reason/a reason/
[05:58] <raddy> Ohhhhh
[06:02] <ee99ee> I'm getting poor performance on openssl after doing a release upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04... at boot, I see "[   29.055227] AVX or AES-NI instructions are not detected." in the log
[06:02] <ee99ee> however, my CPU does have AES-NI
[06:03] <ee99ee> I also see the kernel module aesni_intel is loaded (but used by 0)
[06:04] <ee99ee> my CPU (N3150) supports AES-NI according to the spec sheet on intel.com
[06:07] <Jordan_U> ee99ee: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" .
[06:17] <ee99ee> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.com/KxijtkDV
[06:17] <ee99ee> I also added some more info at the bottom of that pastebin
[06:17] <ee99ee> this is the CPU: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/87258/intel-celeron-processor-n3150-2m-cache-up-to-2-08-ghz.html
[06:18] <ee99ee> note "Security & Reliability - Intel® AES New Instructions: Yes"
[06:19] <Jordan_U> ee99ee: Perhaps that error message just means that you're missing AVX.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> ee99ee: (A confusing use of the word "or")
[06:32] <Braydez2017> anyone here help with disk partitions in ubuntu
[06:32] <Jordan_U> ee99ee: Indeed, from reading the code in arch/x86/crypto/camellia_aesni_avx_glue.c where that error message comes from, that error message will be displayed if any of X86_FEATURE_AVX , X86_FEATURE_AES, or X86_FEATURE_OSXSAVE is missing on the boot CPU. Poorly worded error message in my opinion. Not sure if that info gets you any closer to a solution :(
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: For this channel, and most IRC channels, the best thing to do is just ask your question. If anyone can help, they will.
[06:34] <Braydez2017> thanks will do
[06:35] <pyzozord> hey i'm trying to figure out syntax for Makefile. The command man make doesn't give any info only suggests to check out info make which outputs the same exact text
[06:37] <Braydez2017> so i have a server running ubuntu 18, i have 40 tb of space unallocted and unpartitioned via 4 seperate 12 tb drives, i wish to allocate theese drives to the place where the home directory is currently so i can use them for storage, tried using gparted to move but cannot allocate. Can it be done or should i reinstall and try to do it via partitions from the beginning, bear in mind i only have remote o/s install from a
[06:37] <Braydez2017> a control panel
[06:40] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: Are you wanting a RAID / LVM setup to use the space from all of these drives at once?
[06:45] <Braydez2017> yes i just need that storage space to be accessible by xtreamui which uses the home directory
[06:45] <ee99ee> Jordan_U: I see
[06:45] <Braydez2017> and that directory only so cannot redirect the folder path target to anywhere else but its own folder
[06:46] <Braydez2017> Filesystem       1K-blocks       Used   Available Use% Mounted on
[06:46] <Braydez2017> udev              16302416          0    16302416   0% /dev
[06:46] <Braydez2017> tmpfs              3266632       1252     3265380   1% /run
[06:46] <Braydez2017> tmpfs             16333140      33012    16300128   1% /dev/shm
[06:47] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Braydez2017
[06:47] <Braydez2017> tmpfs                 5120          0        5120   0% /run/lock
[06:47] <Braydez2017> tmpfs             16333140          0    16333140   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[06:47] <Braydez2017> tmpfs              2097152        156     2096996   1% /home/xtreamcodes/iptv_xtream_codes/tmp
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: I've quieted you for a bit to prevent the channel from being filled with your long output. I will unquiet you in a minute or two. Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com in the future.
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: You can now talk in the channel again and we will be able to see what you post.
[06:50] <Braydez2017> okay i will past to pastebin
[06:51] <Braydez2017> have posted first one is wrong server second one shows df
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: You need to post the link here. We can't view your pastebin post without the link.
[06:52] <Braydez2017> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GCWJpv4Rv/
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: You'll need to decide on a technology to use to combine the drives, the main options being LVM, mdraid, btrfs, and zfs. Also, you should strongly consider adding some redundancy. If you have all drives combined with no redundancy, then with most technologies you're going to lose all of your data if just one of the drives ever fails.
[06:54] <Braydez2017> okay so for 4x 12 tb disks what would you suggest?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: What are you going to be using this for?
[07:01] <Braydez2017> vod content
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: And how devistated would you be if you lost all of your videos?
[07:06] <Braydez2017> would be fine as i have back up server holding them
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: Do you feel like drive speed will be a common bottleneck? (I asked to see if data should be striped across the drives or not).
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: And to be clear, this is Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, not Ubuntu 18.10. Correct?
[07:18] <Braydez2017> yes 18.04 and it has to be accessed at a speed that can cope with multiple people viewing possibly at the same time thats it everything else speed isnt an issue
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: If it were me, I would probably use btrfs with metadata raid1 and data raid0. I would choose it because it's easy to setup initially, and allows for flexible changing afterward. Downsides are 1: btrfs itself is less mature and stable than LVM or mdraid 2: btrfs will likely have worse performance than ext4 over mdraid or LVM. 3: With any form of raid0 you're going to basically lose all of
[07:21] <Jordan_U> your data if any one drive dies. One nice thing about btrfs is that you'll still be able to recover the metadata, but that's often not very helpful anyway.
[07:23] <Braydez2017> okay thanks alot
[07:23] <Braydez2017> i will try that now and see how i get on
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: Others would probably recommend mdraid or lvm instead, and would recommend raid1 even though you are OK with losing all of your data. I think it would be good for you to do some research about the differences between raid1 and raid0, and what "striping" is. I'm going to sleep now, and I'm worried that you might not have enough background knowledge to accomplish this safely. But, if you have
[07:25] <Jordan_U> good backups maybe that doesn't matter.
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Braydez2017: Once you've created some sort of volume to hold your /home/ you'll need to copy the contents of your /home/ to it, then edit your /etc/fstab to mount the new volume at the mountpoint /home/. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[07:28] <Braydez2017> okay great thanks
[07:39] <user217_> hello . Can I get some help please with: no free space left on device error?
[07:42] <Armageddon> user217_, I think that means that you no longer have free space on the device
[07:42] <user217_> Armageddon: look like this
[07:42] <Armageddon> it's actually most likely that you're out of space, it says so in the error
[07:43] <Armageddon> I'm not really sure what kind of help you require, do you want to figure out what's eating up space ? or ?
[07:44] <Armageddon> the solution is usually easy, either delete or move somewhere else
[07:46] <user217_> Armageddon: I'm not shure what I can to delete and what eat my space
[08:00] <Armageddon> user217_, df -h <--- and ---> du -sh ~
[08:00] <Armageddon> those two commands should set you up to a good start ;)
[08:06] <user217_> Armageddon: now I see that / is full
[08:07] <user217_> but still dont understand how to clean it
[08:11] <EriC^^> user217_: start with "sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove purge"
[08:11] <EriC^^> user217_: start with "sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove --purge"
[08:12] <user217_> EriC^^: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:12] <user217_> EriC^^: dpkg: error: failed to write status database record about 'ksaneplugin' to '/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[08:13] <user217_> If I try to do  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:13] <Jordan_U> user217_: Stop trying to do anything with dpkg / apt until you have freed up space.
[08:13] <EriC^^> user217_: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb"
[08:14] <user217_> EriC^^: does sudo apt-get clean dont do this?
[08:15] <EriC^^> user217_: yeah but you said apt isnt working
[08:15] <EriC^^> user217_: is there free space now? try df -h
[08:15] <user217_> EriC^^: sudo apt-get clean worked fine, but dont give the solution
[08:16] <user217_> the problem was with sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[08:16] <EriC^^> user217_: pastebin 'df -h'
[08:17] <Jordan_U> user217_: Be careful and check what "sudo apt-get autoremove" wants to remove before you run it again. I would personally not add the --purge as configuration files are often quite useful, and generally quite small.
[08:17] <user217_> EriC^^: df -h
[08:18] <user217_> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6rpwjdpbP/
[08:18] <user217_> sorry :)
[08:19] <EriC^^> user217_: what does 'ls -l /boot' give?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: A user that has (for whatever reason) removed a metapackage like ubuntu-desktop could end up having "apt autoremove" remove most of their system, including all of their ability to log in graphically. Adding --purge makes it that much harder to get back to where they were, because now they've lost their configuration files too. Please keep things like this in mind when giving adivce, especially to
[08:19] <Jordan_U> newer users.
[08:19] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: bruh xD
[08:20] <user217_> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6z4DZzH6CZ/
[08:21] <EriC^^> user217_: i think i will refrain from helping since a bully op is here currently, if you want /join ##linux i will continue helping there
[08:22] <EriC^^> sorry about that
[08:25] <Jordan_U> user217_: Please pastebin the output of "du -h ~/*" That will tell us the names of all of the file / directories in your home directory and how much space each is taking. Be sure to check that there's nothing there that you would mind being public before you pastebin it.
[08:26] <user217_> Jordan_U: the home directory is not full, the problem is on /
[08:27] <Jordan_U> user217_: Ahh, I didn't notice that you have a separate /home/ partition.
[08:27] <user217_> EriC^^: I join linux channel
[08:28] <Jordan_U> user217_: "du -h /var/log/" often when space mysteriously fills up it's from something doing an absurd amount of logging.
[08:28] <user217_> Jordan_U: var/log is 68mb size
[08:31] <Jordan_U> user217_: du -sh /*
[08:33] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: pastebin du -h ~/* seems a bit privacy breaking
[08:33] <EriC^^> (for your future reference)
[08:33] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: Indeed, I meant to ask for -sh. Thank you.
[08:33] <EriC^^> still kinda is
[08:34] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: Agreed, that's why I suggested that they look over the output before pastebinning it.
[08:35] <EriC^^> ah right
[08:38] <Dr8g0n> Hey all - anybody knows how to enable multi-touch gestures on the touchscreen (not on touchpad - - - this works)?
[08:38] <Dr8g0n> I am already on 20.04...
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> come join at #ubuntu+1 for 20.04 support please Dr8g0n
[08:56] <Jordan_U> user217_: From your mount output it looks like you have a lot of snaps installed. Sometimes snaps can use a lot more space than you'd expect.
[09:03] <user217_> Jordan_U: so what is solution?
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> user217_: you could clean out your system, uninstall unwanted packages/snaps
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> free space with bleachbit for example
[09:05] <user217_> lotuspsychje: ok. I remove one app but still have the same problem
[09:06] <oerheks> !autoremove
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !kernelcleanup
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> tnx oerheks
[09:07] <Jordan_U> user217_: Find *something* that you can either delete from your root filesystem or move somewhere else, to free up just enough space to be able to safely run snap and "snap remove foo" where foo is a snap that you feel like you don't need. graphical snaps are likely to be larger than non-graphical ones, because of the dependencies needed to go along with them.
[09:08] <user217_> Jordan_U: It dont help. I do this
[09:09] <NetTerminalGene> can i use ubuntu 20.04 theme on debian buster?
[09:09] <Jordan_U> user217_: "du -sh /var/snap/*" will tell you how much space each snap is using, understanding that some snaps (like gnome-3-28-1804) are mostly there as dependencies for other snaps.
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> NetTerminalGene: we can only support ubuntu and their !flavours here
[09:10] <user217_> Jordan_U: look like that this is unhelpfull
[09:10] <Jordan_U> user217_: Not a lot of space used by snaps?
[09:11] <user217_> Jordan_U: I delete now two snap-applications but still have the same problem
[09:11] <grawity> NetTerminalGene: it should definitely be possible (I believe the theme is called 'yaru'), but I guess you need to try a debian channel for help installing it instead
[09:11] <user217_> also I delete from root folder one more directory
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> grawity: please dont support users for other Os then ubuntu
[09:12] <Jordan_U> user217_: And no change at all for "df -h"? Still getting filesystem full errors?
[09:16] <user216_> Jordan_U: after: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6rpwjdpbP/ before: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GyzPnvqKMx/
[09:16] <Jordan_U> user216_: Sorry, looks like snap data is actually stored in /var/lib/snapd/snaps/* . To see that usage "du -sh /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*".
[09:16] <NetTerminalGene> grawity, thanks
[09:18] <Jordan_U> user216_: Interestingly your used space went down 3 GB, even though your free space did not go up.
[09:18] <user216_> Jordan_U: as I said before I delete two snap app but it dont fix anything
[09:18] <gebbione> hi folks, another happy day on ubuntu with nautilus quitting on me ... `nautilus -q -> Failed to register: Timeout was reached`
[09:18] <user216_> the output of command is : 7.3G    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> user216_: bleachbit your system
[09:19] <user216_> lotuspsychje: what you mean?
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | user216_
[09:20] <Jordan_U> user216_: That's about the 5% that is reserved for the root user, so I expect a little more and you'll stop getting out of space errors. (Right now you'll probably get out of space errors from creating small files as non root, but not from creating small files as root).
[09:21] <user216_> lotuspsychje: I cant install any new software becouse : E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[09:21] <Jordan_U> user216_: What filesystem (ext4, btrfs, etc) are you using for your root?
[09:22] <oerheks>  /snap/intellij-idea-community/220 + 216 ///  obs-studio/1042 + 1054 take a lot of space
[09:23] <oerheks> and a home of 48G is pretty ... small
[09:24] <user216_> oerheks: as I see home is a lot of free space. Also I delete now obs, but it dont help
[09:25] <user216_> obs-sturdio
[09:25] <oerheks> sure it does.
[09:26] <user216_> Jordan_U: how I can check about what filesystem I use?
[09:27] <faceface> hihi
[09:28] <faceface> I'm upgrading a server that has been very out of date, and I'm seeing this error: E: Repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu bionic InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'Oracle Java (JDK) 8 / 9 Installer PPA' to 'Oracle Java (JDK) 8 Installer PPA (DISCONTINUED)'
[09:28] <faceface> I can accept that change of course, but is there an underlying issue?
[09:28] <Jordan_U> user216_: "mount | grep sdb1" , but if you don't know then it's probably ext4 as that's the default.
[09:28] <faceface> hi Jordan_U
[09:29] <oerheks> faceface, that java ppa is depreciated, discontinued
[09:29] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[09:30] <oerheks> in that text you find other oracle blobs.
[09:30] <faceface> oerheks: right, I found that page, but then wasn't sure what to do next...
[09:30] <oerheks> use openjdk, if you can
[09:31] <faceface> ah, I think I followed a link under 'Old description'
[09:31] <faceface> Not sure.. this server uses SGE, which is where the java dep comes from I suspect...
[09:32] <faceface> to switch to openjdk, I should try to remove all packages from that ppa and see if there are dependencies?
[09:33] <oerheks> if you upgraded, no package should have been installed?
[09:33] <faceface> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:name/here
[09:33] <user216_> Jordan_U: /dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[09:33] <faceface> oerheks: I said N, to continue iwht current situation
[09:33] <faceface> oerheks: will the --remove ppa:... remove all pakages from the ppa by default?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> faceface: No, for that you need to use ppa-purge .
[09:34] <faceface> Jordan_U: thanks
[09:34] <Jordan_U> faceface: You're welcome.
[09:34] <oerheks> yes and no, it will reverse to not-ppa versions, if existing
[09:37] <Jordan_U> user216_: "du -sh /var/lib/flatpak/*" if you have flatpack apps installed as well.
[09:39] <faceface> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:  http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java ubuntu
[09:39] <Jordan_U> user216_: Like I said, I think that you're close to having enough free space that you'll stop getting errors about the filesystem full for processes that aren't root. (And I suspect you haven't been getting many error messages from things that are running as root, for as long as df -h has shown 3 GB free).
[09:39] <faceface> I guess the ppa is now empty
[09:41] <user216_> Jordan_U: you right. I delete few flatpaks and it fix my system
[09:44] <faceface> looks like nothing was actually installed from that ppa
[09:44] <herol3oy> hi. how can i look for a string (text) in a dir containing files(txt, jpg..) and folders?
[09:44] <faceface> herol3oy: grep -r
[09:45] <Jordan_U> herol3oy: grep -R 'some pattern here' directory/here/
[09:45] <faceface> you will grep the jpgs, but who cares?
[09:45] <Hamilton> I'm on a dual-boot setup. Some of my media are on NTFS partition. I can access them with Thunar. But VLC doesn't let me choose any other partition that root. How can I make VLC see my other partitions?
[09:45] <herol3oy> 👍
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Hamilton: In linux, all partitions are mounted within the root filesystem. Are you sure that you can't navigate to your other partitions by looking in /media/ or maybe ("Filesystem"/media/)?
[09:48] <Hamilton> Jordan_U, I thought there was other partitions that /...Yeah I can see my NTFS partitions inside /media/username/disk
[09:49] <grawity> there are, but if they're mounted, then they *always* show up somewhere under /
[09:49] <grawity> that's why / is called "root"
[09:49] <Hamilton> grawity, Jordan_U Thanks
[09:50] <Hamilton> Is it advised to auto-mount those partitions on boot via some scripts?
[09:50] <_BIGSHOT_> hello i am inserting correct password but ubuntu is not accepting password
[09:50] <grawity> for internal partitions, sure, there is /etc/fstab (can edit it through gnome-disks if you want)
[09:50] <_BIGSHOT_> it is asking again and again for password
[09:51] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Is this when you're logging in graphically? Do you get a message about the password being wrong, or does it seem to start logging in then boot you back to the login screen (which would indicate your session crashing)?
[09:52] <_BIGSHOT_> no when i am in livecd
[09:52] <_BIGSHOT_> there's no crashing or anything
[09:52] <_BIGSHOT_> wifi ssids are detected OK, but it keeps on asking for authentication
[09:53] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: So the password that's not being accepted is your wifi password, not your login password. Correct?
[09:53] <_BIGSHOT_> yes
[09:55] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn" .
[09:56] <Heaton-IR> hello
[09:56] <Heaton-IR> ?
[09:56] <Jordan_U> Heaton-IR: Hi. Welcome to #ubuntu :)
[09:56] <Heaton-IR> anyone is here>
[09:57] <Heaton-IR> Hello
[09:57] <Hamilton> Heaton-IR, channel count: 1180 members
[09:57] <Heaton-IR> Whats up
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Heaton-IR: In most IRC channels the Etiquette is just to ask your question. If anyone is around and can help, they'll reply. (and in this channel there are *always* people around). Also note that this channel is only for support discussion, for general chat try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:58] <Heaton-IR> Sorry I'm new to irc sorry
[09:59] <Hamilton> Heaton-IR, salam btw... welcome to IRC
[09:59] <Heaton-IR> salam
[10:00] <pavlushka> It is a long due issue, I can't access ubuntu manpages, https://i.imgur.com/cWGoqI7.png everytime
[10:03] <Jordan_U> pavlushka: That's interesting. What happens when you try to open https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/eoan/en/man1/apport-retrace.1.html in an incognito / private tab?
[10:04] <Silmarilion> Hi, I need to setup a new Ubuntu stack over the weekend. So I am tempted to install the 20.04 beta instead of 18.04 in order to not mess with the upgrade again in two weeks. My question is does beta receive all the fixes which ultimately end up on the release version?
[10:04] <Jordan_U> Silmarilion: Yes. #ubuntu+1 for more about 20.04.
[10:05] <Silmarilion> thank you.
[10:05] <Jordan_U> You're welcome.
[10:05] <pavlushka> Jordan_U: ok, it is loading ok, so what could be the issue?
[10:05] <Dr8g0n> there's a channel #ubuntu-touch which seems more appropriate for my question but it is invite-only. anyone here can add me?
[10:06] <Jordan_U> pavlushka: Seems there are some cookies that are causing the page not to load properly. Try clearing cookies for that page.
[10:07] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DfwyZDpR67/ lspci -vnn
[10:07] <Dr8g0n> Silmarilion - yes. You will be upgraded to final 20.04 release automatically.
[10:08] <Dr8g0n> Silmarilion I installed it yesterday. Works like a charm except for fingerprint reader (which I can live without) and multi-touch on touchscreen (touchpad MT works fine).
[10:08] <pavlushka> Jordan_U: only happens to manpages.ubuntu.com but not with other ubuntu.com pages like wiki or so
[10:09] <pavlushka> Jordan_U: and tried clearing cookies to no avail
[10:12] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, you there bud
[10:12] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Yes, please be patient :)
[10:13] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Looks like you're not the only one to have this problem with this card: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1848953
[10:16] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Try "sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi && sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[10:17] <_BIGSHOT_> both are same iwlwifi, why to reinsert same drivdr
[10:17] <_BIGSHOT_> dirver
[10:18] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Because sometimes "restarting" the driver fixes things, and one comment on that bug says doing so got things to work for them.
[10:21] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Also, it seems like newer linux kernels have this bug fixed, so when 20.04 is released I expect your card will work without any work-arounds needed.
[10:21] <_BIGSHOT_> k
[10:32] <duncan-nz> packagekid has a lock preventing me running apt-get update. but the message says I shouldn't remove the lock. this is after a fresh reboot. what to do?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Are you able to connect now?
[10:32] <duncan-nz> the lock seems to affect /var/lib/apt/lists
[10:33] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: see the last write on the lock file, see whether there are dpkg or apt processes running
[10:33] <Jordan_U> duncan-nz: Please post the full exact error message. Use https://pastebin.ubuntu.com if it's more than one line.
[10:34] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: it's normal that the system automatically looks for updates after reboot.
[10:35] <duncan-nz> Jordan_U, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/bCZpc4Bvw6/
[10:36] <duncan-nz> tomreyn, hi there. you've helped me before. thanks for that. it's complaining about multiple configurations so I'm just going to take a look at my apt/sources.list
[10:36] <duncan-nz> tomreyn, i rebooted precisely because of this error when i tried to install something.
[10:37] <duncan-nz> but I'l remember to be patient next time. (it's still complaining)
[10:38] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: start by cleaning up your apt sources, removing duplicates (see warnings in lines 7-17)
[10:38] <duncan-nz> oh, I have 'Canonical Partners' twice in Software & Updates. Can I safely remove one of them?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> Silmarilion: is your purpose for production use?
[10:40] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: most likely yes. it's hard to tell what these options you see on the GUI refer to exactly.
[10:40] <duncan-nz> tomreyn, ok, i'll take a look in the file and see if I can make sense of it. years since i looked at a sources list manually.
[10:41] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: os the duplicate is line 40 of /etc/apt/sources.list vs line 4 of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/disco-partner.list
[10:41] <tomreyn> *so
[10:41] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, No i'll try updating kernel
[10:43] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: the easiest approahc is probably to close the apt source GUI, then remove all "partner" sources from both files using a text editor, then enable canonical-partner again from the apt source GUI.
[10:46] <duncan-nz> tomreyn, yeah. but I tried to close the GUI and it wanted to refresh cache, so I said yeah, and now it won't finish the refresh. it's just stuck on 100%
[10:47] <tomreyn> i think you can cancel this, though, can't you?
[10:47] <duncan-nz> there's no cancel button
[10:47] <tomreyn> oh. in that case, maybe wait another minute or two, or reboot again, or xkill the window (thogh that's not the best approach)
[10:48] <duncan-nz> closed it a different way
[10:48] <duncan-nz> yeah, now my system is angry. I'll reboot.
[10:52] <faceface> hihi
[10:52] <_BIGSHOT_> hehe
[10:52] <_BIGSHOT_> hello face
[10:52] <faceface> I grabbed a 'cloud-image' from here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ and I'm running it with qemu
[10:52] <_BIGSHOT_> so
[10:52] <faceface> what is the right way to login?
[10:52] <faceface> I set up 'port forwarding' but I get: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[10:53] <faceface> Do I need to somhow cram my PK onto the box using virt-customize?
[10:53] <faceface> hi _BIGSHOT_
[10:53] <faceface> I mean, I'm assuming an sshd is running on that box on port 22...
[10:54] <faceface> I should run it locally ...
[10:54] <duncan-nz> tomreyn, i removed one of the two entrie sin the gui and it seems to be working again now. thanks. how on earth does something like that suddenly happen?!
[10:56] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: the duplicates won'T have caused the file lock, this is just coincidental.
[10:56] <faceface> --copy-in a .ssh/authorized_keys ?
[10:58] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: the duplicate 'partner' apt repository configuration could happen when you manually edited sources.list and moved those lines to some file and you also clicked to enable the ubuntu-partner apt repositories on the GUI and that set it up on a different file, so you'd have two lines referring this same repository then.
[10:59] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: i believe the lock on apt  will just have been a result of the system automatically looking for and installing updates in the background. this can take about 5, maybe even 10 minutes after reboot.
[11:00] <tomreyn> faceface: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images states that the user is "ubuntu" and the auto generated password is printed to screen and serial console on the first boot.
[11:11] <duncan-nz> tomreyn, i haven't manually edited a sources.list for at least a year. so it's odd to say the least.
[11:12] <sumagna> hello
[11:12] <sumagna> i had a problem when i started up my ubuntu desktop
[11:13] <faceface> tomreyn: thanks, right, I'm headerless
[11:13] <sumagna> i started up a terminal to use systemd-analyze because it started up very late
[11:14] <faceface> when I run 'groups' on this box I get an error, cannot find name for group ID 22681
[11:14] <tomreyn> duncan-nz: well that's the the causes i could think of spontaneously, there can well be other scenarios.
[11:14] <sumagna> when i started up my terminal, the directory i was in(home) was not shown as ~ but rather /home/sumagnadas
[11:14] <faceface> However, I don't see how that group is linked to my user
[11:14] <sumagna> when i tried to run weechat
[11:14] <sumagna> it showed me that HOME was not set
[11:15] <sumagna> i had to set HOME manually to start weechat but can anyone tell me whats happening?
[11:15] <tomreyn> sumagna: your system logs can tell, and maybe the "whoami" command as well.
[11:16] <sumagna> it shows my username
[11:17] <tomreyn> sumagna: good then it's not because you'Re running as root. i assume your /home file system failed to mount for some reason then.
[11:17] <sumagna> should i paste my log for further investigation
[11:17] <faceface> when I try to SSH onto the box as user ubuntu I still get a ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[11:19] <sumagna> what to do now?
[11:19] <tomreyn> sumagna: you should review them yourself and try to identify possible causes of this problem. but if you can't posting them fully is an option.
[11:19] <tomreyn> !paste | sumagna
[11:19] <sumagna> !pastebinit
[11:24] <sumagna> tomreyn: i just opened another terminal window and saw that HOME was set as the current directory was shown as ~
[11:25] <sumagna> but still i have to review the system logs
[11:25] <sumagna> btw can you tell me how can i see the system log
[11:27] <tomreyn> sumagna: journalctl -b
[11:27] <sumagna> thanks
[11:31] <sumagna> couldnt understand much of it
[11:31] <sumagna> https://termbin.com/cdml
[11:31] <sumagna> this is the output
[11:34] <jiren> Hi, is it ok if I asked a peppermint related question?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:34] <sumagna> hello
[11:43] <tomreyn> sumagna: did the file systems you have liste din /etc/fstab mount fine (does the "mount" command list them)?
[11:44] <tomreyn> *listed in
[11:44] <sumagna> wait lemme see
[11:45] <sumagna> i dont see one of them
[11:45] <sumagna> swapfile
[11:47] <sumagna> the swapfile i have doesnt mount
[11:48] <tomreyn> sumagna: have you tried rebooting once since the problem you described initially first occurred?
[11:48] <sumagna> umm no
[11:48] <sumagna> i was thinking about rebooting
[11:48] <tomreyn> if not, i suggest you just give it a try, sice it can help repairing issues which diagnosing can take a while otherwise.
[11:49] <sumagna> btw where should i mount the /swapfile?
[11:50] <tomreyn> Apr 10 16:31:37 hp-laptop systemd-fstab-generator[327]: Failed to create unit file /run/systemd/generator/swapfile.swap, as it already exists. Duplicate entry in /etc/fstab?
[11:50] <tomreyn> Apr 10 16:31:53 hp-laptop kernel: Adding 4296868k swap on /swapfile.  Priority:-2 extents:14 across:78106788k FS
[11:50] <sumagna> what should i do?
[11:50] <tomreyn> so you do seem to have a swap file.
[11:50] <sumagna> yea
[11:50] <tomreyn> ...which gets mounted, too
[11:50] <sumagna> i made it to support hibernation
[11:51] <sumagna> ??
[11:51] <sumagna> the swapfile never mounts
[11:52] <sumagna> everytime i see this message in the system log(whenever i try to see it)
[11:52] <tomreyn> so     cat /proc/swaps    reports none are in use?
[11:53] <sumagna> it shows /swapfile is in use
[11:53] <EvilKittyBoi> guys if the primary screen of a laptop is broken, is there any way to install ubuntu, whatever...
[11:53] <EvilKittyBoi> the issue is that you can only boot to live mode
[11:54] <EvilKittyBoi> and when you are in live mode, the second screen is only showing an empty desktop without options
[11:54] <EvilKittyBoi> somehow what needs to be done is to disable the main screen for the secondary screen
[11:54] <tomreyn> sumagna: so based on what you said i am guessing that you may have configured s econdary swap file and that fails to mount.
[11:54] <EvilKittyBoi> but can't even open a console
[11:54] <sumagna> secondary swapfile?
[11:54] <JimBuntu> EvilKittyBoi: does the keyboard have a key to turn on/off the display? Sometimes laptops have this and if pressed it should cause your external display to become the primary.
[11:55] <guiverc> EvilKittyBoi, I've done it using a lenovo fn+display key to toggle an external monitor to mirror the broken laptop display...
[11:56] <pragmaticenigma> EvilKittyBoi: Another option would be to connect an external keyboard, mouse, and display. Then close the lid once the machine is turned on. Many laptops automatically redirect their output to the external display when the lid is closed
[11:56]  * guiverc means the same key JimBuntu referred to; it toggles between modes..
[11:57] <JimBuntu> EvilKittyBoi: also, depending on the edition of Ubuntu Alt-F7 can be used along with the cursor/arrow keys to grab and move a window via keyboard
[11:58] <sumagna> tomreyn: what do you mean by secondary swapfile?
[12:02] <sissylog> hi I am trying to turn off intel security mitigations off
[12:02] <sissylog> I added mitigations=off to /etc/deafult/grub
[12:03] <sissylog> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash mitigations=off"
[12:03] <sissylog> and then ran update-grub
[12:03] <sissylog> and rebooted
[12:03] <sissylog> dmesg|grep mitigations gives me
[12:03] <sissylog> [    0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.3.0-7642-generic root=/dev/mapper/data-root ro quiet splash mitigations=off vt.handoff=7
[12:04] <sissylog> [    0.042177] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.3.0-7642-generic root=/dev/mapper/data-root ro quiet splash mitigations=off vt.handoff=7
[12:04] <sissylog> so did it work?
[12:04] <DK21> https://paste.ee/p/fUc7z  can anybody explain why the service is not running but actually running in prcess list?
[12:04] <DK21> this is ubuntu 14
[12:04] <sissylog> I can't really run benchmarks to determine myself
[12:05] <ioria> sissylog, ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/
[12:06] <sissylog> @iora itlb_multihit  mds       spec_store_bypass  spectre_v2
[12:06] <sissylog> l1tf           meltdown  spectre_v1         tsx_async_abort
[12:07] <sissylog> does this mean it worked?
[12:07] <ioria> sissylog, consider you're not using an ubuntu kernel ...
[12:08] <ioria> sissylog,  run this : grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/*
[12:10] <sissylog> @ioria that worked everything is disabled and vulnerable in red :)
[12:10] <sissylog> as intended
[12:10] <sissylog> thank you so much for your help
[12:10] <ioria> sissylog,  ok
[12:18] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:19] <raddy> I could not install ubuntu natively due to partition limitations
[12:19] <raddy> So, I installed ubuntu on windows 10 using wubi unreleased latest version
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> raddy: wubi is no longer a supported method
[12:20] <raddy> But still ubuntu is not booting after selecting wubi
[12:21] <EriC^> !wubi | raddy
[12:22] <EriC^> raddy: where did you get wubi from?
[12:23] <raddy> EriC^:  https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi/releases
[12:24] <EriC^> raddy: ah ty
[12:25] <EriC^> raddy: what are the partition limitations you encountered?
[12:26] <raddy> EriC^: I have 4 extended partitions already
[12:26] <raddy> EriC^: I don't want to delete any existing partitions
[12:27] <EriC^> raddy: i think you mean 4 primary partitions?
[12:27] <raddy> EriC^: Yeah
[12:28] <EriC^> raddy: can you share a pastebin of the partition table?
[12:28] <raddy> EriC^: Ok.
[12:30] <EriC^> raddy: it is possible to shrink a primary partition's filesystem, and convert the partition to an extended one keeping all the data, but you'd need to backup first in case anything goes wrong
[12:33] <raddy> EriC^: BDEDrive: C: D: all are primary
[12:33] <raddy> EriC^: I am not sure what for D: is primary
[12:36] <raddy> Is Ubuntu Live cannot preserve package changes ?
[12:36] <raddy> Addition/Deletion etc ?
[12:37] <spackle259> is there a way i can prevent my ubuntu 19.10 from turning off the screen once it locks?
[12:37] <spackle259> Been looking in the documentation but nothing solid to what im looking for
[12:37] <EriC^> raddy: no, but you could make a persistent live usb that does, although it has its caveats
[12:38] <EvilKittyBoi> JimBuntu: guiverc pragmaticenigma okay tried all that doesn't work the monitor is still second screen
[12:38] <raddy> EriC^: What caveats ?
[12:38] <EvilKittyBoi> I tried ctrl + alt + f1 and to use xrandr but xrandr won't work in the terminal
[12:39] <EriC^> raddy: well for one it would be slower on a usb, might not last as long, and you wouldnt have a fully 100% install, cant update kernel etc
[12:39] <raddy> EriC^: Okkk.
[12:42] <EvilKittyBoi> well my friend hit the keyboard with his fist and that fixed it.... wtf
[12:42] <raddy> EriC^: If I format D: and create it again, can I create it as a normal simple volume? instead of Primary ?
[12:43] <EriC^> EvilKittyBoi: there's a button on the laptop usually for monitors looks like a |[]|
[12:43] <raddy> Can I use the pen drive only for booting ?
[12:44] <raddy> The actual volume would be simple volume based partition.
[12:45] <EvilKittyBoi> EriC^: no it's a piece of shit laptop that is basically just the motherboard and two usb ports...
[12:45] <EvilKittyBoi> not even the builtin keyboard is in it
[12:46] <EvilKittyBoi> the guy somehow blindly smashed the keyboard and somehow managed it... I have no idea how he pulled it off... I am still confused
[12:46] <EvilKittyBoi> he was just angry
[12:47] <raddy> EriC^: I have figured out, D: was an encrypted partition.
[12:55] <sumagna> i was thinking about upgrading to beta release of ubuntu 20.04
[12:55] <sumagna> i have a dualboot laptop with ubuntu alongside windows 10
[12:55] <sumagna> should i upgrade to it?
[12:56] <sumagna> or wait for the stable release?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> sumagna: come join to #ubuntu+1 please
[12:56] <sumagna> ok
[12:57] <BluesKaj> sumagna, at this point just wait til the 23rd for the official release, but if you're feeling adventurous then go for it. It is quite stable atm.
[12:58] <sumagna> oh ok
[13:00] <BluesKaj> sumagna, however if you're using yor present OS for work then don't take any chances, wait for the official release
[13:00] <sumagna> i am a teenager who likes linux
[13:00] <sumagna> thats al
[13:00] <sumagna> all
[13:01] <sumagna> but my father use windows for his work
[13:02] <BluesKaj> sumagna, you'd be better off dicussing this move with your father in that case.
[13:02] <sumagna> he let me install ubuntu alongside his one
[13:03] <sumagna> he lets me do anything on this computer only if it doesnt mess up his work OS
[13:03] <BluesKaj> well, my recommendation is to discuss it with your father
[13:03] <sumagna> ok
[13:04] <sumagna> i think i will wait for the stable release
[13:04] <sumagna> it is in less than two weeks anyways
[13:04] <BluesKaj> good choice :-)
[13:22] <MrSteve> I stuck the .iso on usb, boot it, and got 18.04 'Try ubuntu.'  It says the same as the 18.04 on the hard drive.  There is this msftres partition #2 ... and windows on part #3 won't boot.  I got a new 1909 install on #5. Windows gives me choice to boot from the old, or new, but the grub went gone.
[13:23] <MrSteve> I want to use the Old C;\  instead of the new D:\ partition
[13:23] <MrSteve> but the msftres part is corrupted
[13:24] <MrSteve> now have two windows that one boots.. and no grub loader
[13:25] <MrSteve> I can go choose ubuntu in the UEFI loader.. and gets ubuntu plus the old windows
[13:26] <MrSteve> the new 1909 small partition is not in the old grub menu
[13:29] <EriC^> MrSteve: what are you trying to do?
[13:38] <_BIGSHOT_> anyone running ubuntu server can tell what's the best thing to do with it?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> hehe
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> _BIGSHOT_: That's an excellent question to ask in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. I'm sure there are people there with lots of ideas for you
[13:40] <_BIGSHOT_> very good reply
[13:41] <_BIGSHOT_> thxs pragmaticniga
[13:41] <MrSteve> EriC^ - get grub to see the new 1909 that was installed, and recover 400+gb of the old 1809 that corrupted
[13:41] <pragmaticenigma> You're welcome _BIGSHOT_ :)
[13:42] <_BIGSHOT_> no prob nig
[13:45] <MrSteve> EriC^ - i take photo screen shot from Win 10 .. where to for post it??
[13:51] <HyP3r> Heyho. Just a question about package management. I'm using my ubuntu desktop since 14.04 and have installed a lot programs which I don't use anymore. Is there a way to e.g. remove all python packages which have no dependencies to the kubuntu-desktop?
[13:53] <pragmaticenigma> HyP3r: Ubuntu 14.04 ended support a long time ago. Please update yourself to a supported version for assistance, 16.04 and 18.04 are both currently supported LTS versions. 19.10 is the current regular release supported version
[13:54] <MrSteve> https://imgur.com/a/OVVMmf1
[13:54] <SeeM2> HyP3r: try 'apt-get autoremove', but it will not work with tha packages You installed manually.
[13:56] <MrSteve> I guess you want a ubuntu snapshot to see what gparted says..too?
[13:57] <MrSteve> synaptic
[13:58] <MrSteve> synaptic was used back then.. sybchronated apt.
[14:06] <MrSteve> EriC^ let me know if you can help.
[14:06] <HyP3r> parak0vsky: I actually working with ubuntu 18.04. I wanted to say that I'm using ubuntu already a long time
[14:07] <HyP3r> pragmaticenigma:
[14:07] <HyP3r> And yeah. I just wanted to clean up my system a bit, by uninstalling some packges
[14:07] <pragmaticenigma> HyP3r: in the future, skip the story lead in... as you can see, it causes confusion
[14:10] <pragmaticenigma> HyP3r: there isn't a way to say "uninstall all python packages with not having dependencies of X" ... You can try uninstalling a package, and apt will tell you before you uninstall the package if there are other items that will be uninstalled with it...
[14:11] <HyP3r> Yeah. Some python3-xxx packages have dependencies to ubuntu packages, but a lot of them not because I have installed by hand. Now it would be cool if is uninstalling all packages which doesn't have a specific depency.
[14:11] <HyP3r> And you say thats impossible?
[14:12] <pragmaticenigma> HyP3r: I'm saying the tools available don't provide that functionality
[14:16] <vlm> trying to do ´find dir/ -mindepth 1 -exec rm -rf {} \;´,it does delete all files but it exits with 1 and gives "No such file or directory" for each file or dir deleted,how can i change it to exit 0? and not having all the error messages?
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> vlm: use the -delete option instead of -exec ?
[14:17] <INSANU> has anyone tried a windows virtual machine to execute visual studio and possible a wpf application on it?
[14:18] <vlm> pragmaticenigma id like to keep rm as its supposedly more portable,the -delete switch does works
[14:18] <INSANU> I want to know if is it possible to have an environment good enough to develop
[14:18] <pragmaticenigma> INSANU: that's an interesting question, I think you will have better responses by asking in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[14:18] <INSANU> pragmaticenigma: sorry dude =0
[14:18] <INSANU> doing it right now
[14:20] <pragmaticenigma> vlm: if a platform support "find" it should be supporting "-delete" flags ... that feature has been there for a very long time
[14:21] <mfilipe[m]> hi! i'm trying to understand why the snap packages don't work the sound integration in fedora. where could i ask the snap questions to troubleshooting this?
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> mfilipe[m]: A good place to start would be a channel for Fedora... not Ubuntu
[14:26] <MrSteve> refind? boot-script?
[14:27] <MrSteve> brb. get ubuntu
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> MrSteve: EriC^ Appears to have parted for the moment. Also, please make sure you prefix message to the person that was helping you with their handles. There are presently 1,208 people/entities in the channel. It's important to direct your conversation towards the person that was helping you
[14:29] <ubuking> Hey
[14:29] <ubuking> People
[14:30] <mfilipe[m]> pragmaticenigma: i already tried there but somehow they just don't care
[14:31] <ubuking>  I have a question
[14:31] <mfilipe[m]> they suggest to try the snapd team or the softtware vendor
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> mfilipe[m]: That doesn't mean that it's okay to ask about something in another channel. The volunteers here are familiar with Ubuntu and its setup. That's why the room topic clearly states: #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 16.04, 18.04, 19.10
[14:31] <mfilipe[m]> i wanna try with the the snapd team first before move to the software vendor or report a bug to fedora
[14:32] <ubuking> Help
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | ubuking
[14:32] <ubuking> My question is about Ubuntu
[14:32] <mfilipe[m]> pragmaticenigma: because of that I asked where I could ask my question, duh!
[14:32] <Guest_46> When I power on my device, the internet connection (via WiFi) exists. After few minutes the internet access disappears (the WiFi remains connected, question mark appears on the WiFi icon). To fix this I have to switch off the WiFi and then reconnect. This happens every few minutes and then I have to repeat the fix.  (Focal Fossa 20.04 beta)
[14:33] <ubuking> My question is about Ubuntu
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> ubuking: Ask your question then. Stop asking to ask, no one is going to be able to help you unless you actually ask the question you have on your mind.
[14:33] <ubuking> Ok
[14:34] <pragmaticenigma> !ubuntu+1 | Guest_46
[14:34] <ubuking> I wanted to ask when Ubuntu 2004 is ready
[14:35] <BluesKaj> ubuking, ubuntu 20.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[14:35] <ubuking> It would be nice if some of the developers can tell me when it's ready
[14:35] <ubuking> Ok
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> ubuking: There is no such thing. Ubuntu 20.04 will be released when testing is complete and the development team have deteremined that is ready to be distributed. This typically happens in late April, but there is no firm date of release. For further questions about 20.04, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:11] <IntelCore> https://imgur.com/a/nl8X9Hh     --- RED partition. need help pls.
[15:12] <pragmaticenigma> !details | IntelCore
[15:14] <IntelCore> msftreserved partition is corrupt or something.
[15:15] <IntelCore> caused C:\ not to boot. Got win10 installed on D:\ to use it.
[15:15] <IntelCore> Lost grub menu to boot.
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> IntelCore: What did you do to land you in this position?
[15:17] <IntelCore> c:\ stopped booting windows. but installed 1909
[15:19] <IntelCore> uefi choose either.. to use ubuntu
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> IntelCore: This is sounding more like a question that you might have better luck with a Windows support group. I'm not sure if anyone here is going to be very familiar with that stuff. I would suggest that you make a backup of your machines (ideally restore your back that you made before you upgraded windows)
[15:20] <IntelCore> no no.. I need to point Grub at the new partition
[15:20] <IntelCore> recover grub menu
[15:21] <R0b0t1`> Hi, I'm on cosmic, is there any way to do an auto upgrade?
[15:22] <IntelCore> i don't know
[15:22] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | R0b0t1`
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> R0b0t1`: it would be faster to back up your files and install 19.10.
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> IntelCore: What do you mean you don't know? You did make a backup before upgrading your OSes ... right?
[15:23] <IntelCore> lol. no. windows had no recovery.
[15:24] <IntelCore> clean 1909 on new partition works great
[15:25] <R0b0t1`> I'm trying to do https://askubuntu.com/questions/1208109/how-to-upgrade-from-18-10-to-19-10-using-the-command-line but this does not work anymore
[15:25] <R0b0t1`> is there a way to upgrade from cosmic to 19.04 or 19.10
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> !eolupgrade | R0b0t1` , in case you missed it earlier
[15:26] <R0b0t1`> ah sorry
[15:27] <R0b0t1`> yeah okay that's not super helpful
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> Those links R0b0t1` have official documentation on how to do it. askubuntu tends to miss important steps
[15:27] <IntelCore> ye
[15:27] <IntelCore> if I may.. need to update fully.. then it will want to upgrade
[15:28] <pragmaticenigma> R0b0t1`: I know you didn't read those links... because the last one is the most important one
[15:28] <R0b0t1`> yes, I apologize, my temper is kind of short today
[15:28] <R0b0t1`> I've had do-release-upgrade work exactly once and am kind of on edge
[15:29] <R0b0t1`> it's why I put off the upgrade
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> R0b0t1`: that's why the documentation for do-release-upgrade also suggests that you make a backup of your system before attempting to upgrade... in case something goes wrong you can restore your system
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> IntelCore: Start from the top... as you're sending bits and pieces of information to us, without explaining the process that lead to the situation and what exactly it is you're trying to do. Please start from the very beginning from when this machine last worked, and the steps you did to get you to the situation you are in now.
[15:41] <IntelCore> C:\ crashed windows corrupted. Installed 1909, on D:\.. no grub menu .   Have to go to UEFI to pick windows or ubuntu, or the windows displays the new 1909, and the corrupt old 1809.
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> I have no idea what any of that means... so I guess I can't be of any help. I wish you luck there IntelCore
[15:42] <IntelCore> drive is ok, except for msftres partition 2, ..
[15:42] <IntelCore> it's red marked in gparted
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> IntelCore: From where I sit... your system is broke... and i don't see a path to recovery other than to recover your data off of that machine and start over
[15:42] <EriC^> IntelCore: are you in ubuntu right now?
[15:43] <IntelCore> yes old 18.04
[15:43] <EriC^> the problem is that the problem isnt laid out correctly
[15:43] <EriC^> IntelCore: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link here
[15:44] <IntelCore> https://termbin.com/fr98
[15:44] <EriC^> IntelCore: just to recap, in a nutshell you installed ubuntu 19.09 in a partition but dont get grub or anything, unless you choose uefi in the bios, then you get a ms  windows bootloader that shows windows and ubuntu?
[15:44] <IntelCore> i looked at that
[15:44] <IntelCore> correct
[15:45] <EriC^> IntelCore: ok, so you're trying to do what at this point?
[15:45] <EriC^> is windows working?
[15:45] <IntelCore> I'm gonna wipe the old C:\ partition
[15:45] <IntelCore> 1909 is working
[15:45] <IntelCore> the old is corrupt
[15:46] <EriC^> IntelCore: just for the record 1909 is very confusing, especially since windows has 1909 as a build
[15:46] <EriC^> but go on
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> I think that's what the 1909 is referring to
[15:46] <EriC^> ah, i thought so at first, then i thought ubuntu then..
[15:46] <IntelCore> latest windows is fine, old 1809 is corrupted
[15:46] <EriC^> xD
[15:46] <EriC^> ok
[15:47] <EriC^> so you're here because you want grub to show?
[15:47] <IntelCore> like upgrade and lost grub menu
[15:47] <IntelCore> before. grub loaded one I choosed
[15:48] <IntelCore> but now, windows 10 shows just two versions of windows to load
[15:48] <EriC^> IntelCore: so you want the windows bootloader fixed?
[15:49] <IntelCore> grub needs to point at the new?
[15:49] <EriC^> IntelCore: do you want grub to show up? yes/no?
[15:50] <EriC^> i think there's a language barrier going on here sadly
[15:50] <IntelCore> yes
[15:50] <IntelCore> 82.5 gig is new win10
[15:51] <IntelCore> 489 gig is old
[15:52] <EriC^> currently does the new windows boot up?
[15:52] <IntelCore> yes. to a screen to ask sda 3 or 5
[15:52] <EriC^> aha nice and the os loads and everything, right?
[15:52] <IntelCore> the old does not.
[15:53] <IntelCore> 5 boots
[15:53] <EriC^> ok but you dont care about that one right?
[15:53] <IntelCore> 3 crap
[15:53] <IntelCore> rite.
[15:53] <EriC^> you just want ubuntu + newer windows with a grub menu to choose them from, yeah?
[15:53] <IntelCore> yes, tyvm
[15:53] <EriC^> ok great
[15:53] <EriC^> IntelCore: type "sudo grub-install"
[15:53] <IntelCore> I wipe old. for more space
[15:54] <IntelCore> doing
[15:54] <IntelCore> no error
[15:54] <EriC^> IntelCore: type "sudo update-grub"
[15:55] <impermanence> what is the minimum ubuntu version that should be allowed to run in the enterprise?
[15:55] <IntelCore> Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda1@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[15:55] <IntelCore> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[15:56] <IntelCore> done
[15:56] <ducasse> IntelCore: 16.04
[15:56] <EriC^> ducasse: i think you meant to highlight impermanence
[15:56] <ducasse> impermanence: ^^^sorry
[15:56] <IntelCore> ok
[15:56] <EriC^> IntelCore: type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:56] <EriC^> IntelCore: is this a laptop or pc?
[15:56] <IntelCore> yes.
[15:57] <IntelCore> https://termbin.com/lv3e
[15:57] <EriC^> i mean which laptop or pc/desktop?
[15:58] <IntelCore> laptop
[15:58] <EriC^> which kind?
[15:58] <IntelCore> hp
[15:58] <IntelCore> 15 silver
[15:58] <IntelCore> dual booted c:\ to 18.04
[15:59] <EriC^> IntelCore: aha, ok, try to reboot, and make sure in the bios that UEFI is enabled and csm legacy is disabled, if you dont get grub, try to press F9 when the pc starts and choose ubuntu and come back here to continue fixing
[15:59] <pragmaticenigma> IntelCore: You mean dual booted with Ubuntu 18.04 and Windows 10 (release 1909)
[15:59] <IntelCore> was 1809 , now 1909 :)  I hope. cas I did not know commands.
[16:00] <IntelCore> I looked very hard to find them tho. weeks
[16:01] <IntelCore> okay I will.. erik
[16:16] <IntelCore> legacy disabled, no csm thingy, uefi enabled.  the f9 widow has.. windows boot mgr, and ubuntu ..
[16:17] <IntelCore> making me pick ubuntu to launch to grub
[16:18] <IntelCore> tho.. i did not try the grub boot of windows to see if it found the new partition. previously was just the corrupt one
[16:21] <compdoc> sometimes it works better with the csm thingy
[16:23] <IntelCore> gpt hd
[16:25] <AssociateX> Hello wonderful people. My 18.10 install is out of date, past EOL, and I'm looking to replace it. Which is a sane stable install for LTS? I think last night I saw 18.04 and 19.01 floated to me, but I am not certain which one.
[16:25] <IntelCore> dev/sda2/  is corrupt. the msftres partition.
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> !lts | AssociateX
[16:27] <AssociateX> lotuspsychje Thank you.
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> AssociateX: soon the new lts 20.04 also comes out
[16:29] <IntelCore> downgrade's no good
[16:30] <IntelCore> ver hard to do
[16:30] <AssociateX> I see that there is an LTS beta, which seems to be an oxymoron of sorts.
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> AssociateX: the beta can be already tested yes, see #ubuntu+1 for more info
[16:32] <IntelCore> Erik ?
[16:33] <IntelCore> EriC^   :)
[16:33] <Sohom_Datta> ^ Personally, I feel its better to wait untill it goes production... Gnome 3.36 doesn't play well
[16:35] <IntelCore> using 3.28.2 gnome
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> Sohom_Datta: I hope that if you are having issues with the beta release that you have filed bug reports or reported them in the #ubuntu+1 channel. It will greatly benefit everyone before to release goes out
[16:36] <EriC^> IntelCore: when the pc booted did you get grub without having to press F9?
[16:36] <IntelCore> no
[16:36] <Phruis> anyone upgrade to the beta?
[16:37] <IntelCore> straight to windows. choose
[16:37] <EriC^> IntelCore: ok, type 'sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup'
[16:38] <IntelCore> on screen at F9, was to choose also, the uefi has both windows and ubuntu
[16:38] <IntelCore> done
[16:38] <EriC^> IntelCore: yes, we must trick the bios into booting ubuntu by switching the efi files
[16:39] <EriC^> IntelCore: ok, type "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi"
[16:39] <pac1> can anyone explain why sort output is NOT sorting: https://gist.github.com/callahanp/a8bdd2cda1e00d994dec7b95442dd394
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Phruis
[16:40] <Phruis> lotuspsychje, ok cool
[16:40] <IntelCore> done.
[16:42] <EriC^> IntelCore: type "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot"
[16:42] <IntelCore> done.
[16:43] <EriC^> IntelCore: type "sudo sed -i 's/bootmgfw.efi/bootmgfw.efi.backup/' /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[16:43] <EriC^> IntelCore: type "sudo sed -i 's/bootmgfw.efi/bootmgfw.efi.backup/' /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft"
[16:44] <IntelCore> 's/  ?
[16:44] <IntelCore> Done.
[16:44] <EriC^> IntelCore: type "sudo update-grub"
[16:44] <maum> hello
[16:45] <maum> how can boot usb from grub?
[16:45] <IntelCore> sudo update-grub
[16:45] <EriC^> IntelCore: if you ever remove ubuntu, you'll need to copy bootmgfw.efi.backup over bootmgfw.efi in /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot before doing so, so windows can become the bootloader
[16:45] <IntelCore> did
[16:45] <EriC^> IntelCore: ok, try to reboot
[16:45] <aaardvark_> I am running 16.4 on a KVM - when I do do-release-upgrade it tells me that: There is no development version of an LTS available. - what am I missing here - surely 18.4 is available
[16:46] <IntelCore> oo.. And I could remove windows boot mgr in uefi firmware.
[16:46] <AssociateX> Why do releases have an EOL insteading being rolling releases? Not an important question, I'm just curious.
[16:46] <EriC^> aaardvark_: what does "grep -i prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" give?
[16:47] <maum> Is there a way to boot usb from grub? there is no option for usb in cmos
[16:47] <EriC^> maum: does grub see the usb if you run "ls" in a grub command prompt?
[16:47] <maum> grub cannot see usb .. I tried ls command
[16:48] <EriC^> maum: there was a software you could install on a cd that lets you boot usb's.. maybe somebody remembers the name, starts with a p
[16:49] <EriC^> maum: it's called "plop"
[16:49] <maum> plop? how can I use it in grub?
[16:49] <IntelCore> :)  reboots
[16:49] <Harpagornis> Hi
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> pac1: I'm guessing it's because those are not recognized as file paths?
[16:49] <EriC^> maum: you don't, you install it on a cd
[16:50] <EriC^> maum: what are you trying to achieve ultimately?
[16:50] <maum> I have no cd. ..
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> welcome Harpagornis
[16:50] <maum> I like to remove ubuntu and reinstall like fresh
[16:51] <memphisto> maum: so how did you install it in the first place
[16:52] <grawity> pac1: unicode collation tends to ignore punctuation, and is slightly weird overall
[16:52] <maum> the notebook has windows xp version so I could use plop and booted usb and installed ubuntu but the system have many problem.
[16:52] <grawity> pac1: try `LC_COLLATE=C sort` for asciibetical order
[16:53] <memphisto> maum: you used usb flash disk or usb cd/dvd to boot ubuntu ?
[16:53] <maum> flash disk
[16:54] <memphisto> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[16:54] <aaardvark_> EriC^: the grep gives me: Prompt=lts - and of course some comment lines
[16:54] <memphisto> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#1-overview
[16:54] <memphisto> try making bootable usb following one of those links, depending your os
[16:55] <EriC^> aaardvark_: odd, is the system all up to date? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> pac1: try sort -k 2,2 a.txt ... then look up the man page for the "-k" argument
[16:55] <maum> although I have bootable usb, now I cannot boot usb. ... the windows has gone
[16:56] <aaardvark_> EriC^: yep - I had already done that
[16:56] <memphisto> maum; so you have ubuntu there, use the link https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#1-overview to create bootable usb
[16:56] <maum> plop menu is gone
[16:56] <memphisto> or you have ubootable system ?
[16:56] <dbugger> hi hi
[16:57] <theborger> i;m haivng issues getting xorg to die. trying to install nvidia drivers
[16:57] <maum> I have bootable ubuntu usb I like to boot it from grub
[16:57] <EriC^> maum: you could use grub to boot an iso that's on a partition you'll leave if you wanted, but if it fails for some reason then i guess you're stuck
[16:57] <theborger> i've tried sudo service gdm stop, and sudo systemctl stop gdm3
[16:57] <theborger> i;m already at init 3
[16:58] <EriC^> maum: why does your usb not show up though it should in a new computer, did you try disabling fastboot?
[16:58] <EriC^> maum: also did you try a different usb port?
[16:58] <memphisto> maum: can you boot from usb, by choosing in BIOS your boot device ?
[16:59] <maum> there is no option for usb in bios
[16:59] <pragmaticenigma> theborger: there are no init levels with systemd based systems
[16:59] <memphisto> maum: legacy or efi ?
[16:59] <maum> legacy
[16:59] <knstn> Hello. On a default ubuntu installation (server or desktop), can one disable the ufw, and install firewalld, and use that fully?
[16:59] <pragmaticenigma> theborger: also you shouldn't need to kill X in order to install the drivers... you are using the built in propreitary driver installer... correct?
[17:00] <vimart> \o
[17:00] <theborger> i got it thanks guys
[17:00] <memphisto> maum: have you correclty created your boot flash
[17:00] <maum> vaio vgn-fj75l model
[17:00] <maum> memphisto: yes I have
[17:01] <memphisto> then see the youtube how to boot from usb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFrTtzL8goA
[17:02] <grawity> hmm if it's as old as it looks, no guarantee that it's actually capable of booting from USB at all...
[17:02] <memphisto> does anyone have java 1.6
[17:02] <memphisto> installatino
[17:02] <maum> it is not working and the notebook version is different
[17:03] <vimart> knstn: yes you can do that
[17:04] <memphisto> maum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0f31mIxawE see this one
[17:05] <knstn> vimart: Thanks
[17:10] <maum> memphisto: thanks but it is not working ,.. there are three port for vaio vgn-fj75l model. I tried those port but all is not working.. the movie you linked suggested external drive option ... I tried it but it still not working
[17:11] <memphisto> maum; sorry to hear that
[17:11] <memphisto> hope you find external CD/DVD and complete your task
[17:11] <maum> memphisto: thanks
[17:13] <i7ch> hey guys. i'm trying to install a HP MFP printer (fully supported by hplip) but it's giving me hell with the scanner part. i've installed latest hjplip 3.20.x and managed to get the printer working. but the scanner refuses to. i can see the scanner with #sudo scanimage -L or #sudo sane-find-scanner but when I try to scan with #hp-scan or #sudo scanimage  it gives me "scanimage: open of device hpaio:/usb/HP_LaserJet_MFP_M28-M31?serial=VNC4K7
[17:13] <i7ch> 6244 failed: Error during device I/O"
[17:13] <i7ch> printer is connected via usb on a ubuntu 18.04 (headless) and printer model is hp mfp m28a
[17:14] <gp5st__> Is anyone familiar with a linux-compatible single board computer that has a USB Device port (not a USB Host)(e.g. micro-usb, usb-b port)?
[17:15] <pavlos> memphisto: (a few days back) did you get your ssh -X running between pi and desktop?
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | gp5st__ maybe here?
[17:15] <aaardvark_> EriC^: for what it is worth, and since the instance can easily be rebuilt I changed to normal from lts and did the upgrade and it all seems to be working well
[17:15] <grawity> gp5st__: a bunch of RPi models (and similar) have a dual-role 'dwc2' controller
[17:16] <EriC^> aaardvark_: nice thanks for the feedback
[17:16] <guntbert> i7ch: I literally feel your pain - this is something that seems to work only in very special circumstances :-((
[17:16] <memphisto> i7ch try looking through this https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1821932
[17:16] <aaardvark_> EriC^: bizzare though - and it has upgraded me to 18.4 - which maybe is even more bizzre
[17:17] <aaardvark_> EriC^: ignore that - it has now upgraded to 19.10
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: you need to install latest hplip manually on 18.04 to make it work
[17:18] <i7ch> @lotuspsychje, i did. i have THE latest version
[17:18] <i7ch> "HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.20.3)"
[17:18] <Dev0n> hey, I keep getting "ERROR: Could not load logging rules" when trying to "ufw enable"
[17:18] <gp5st__> grawity, ah, didn't realize the RPi could do Device mode. Thanks! I'll look into it
[17:19] <Dev0n> -> /usr/share/ufw/check-requirements says all tests passed, I haven't messed with the config, this is a brand new install (Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS)
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: i had the same on 18.04 -desktop instaling latest hplip solved things for me togheter with the control centre
[17:20] <i7ch> is there a official channel for hplip?
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: hplip & hplip-gui
[17:20] <guntbert> memphisto: ah, I'm gonna bookmark that as well - how did you find it?
[17:20] <i7ch> @lotuspsychje, unfortunately i can't use hplip-guy since that ubuntu machine runs headless
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> i see
[17:21] <i7ch> i mean .. i could installed it, but i see no point to install extra x-server stuff just to not be using them
[17:22] <i7ch> @lotuspsychje, did you installed hplip from the script or from the tarball ?
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: auto install script yeah
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: you connect over network or usb?
[17:23] <i7ch> another thing worth mentioning, sane can't detect my scanner unless i run it as sudo ...
[17:23] <i7ch> @lotuspsychje, USB. this particular model does not have network connectivity
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: the thing is, 18.04 at one point asks to search scanner driver GUI
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> not sure howto trigger that cli
[17:24] <i7ch> uhum
[17:24] <i7ch> hmm. lemme try to uninstall hplip and install it again
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: this was my bug about it bug #1812392
[17:26] <i7ch> mine it's not the exact same model. dunno if it matters or not
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: think it will be the same issue
[17:28] <i7ch> should I get hplip 30.20.2 or 3.20.3  ?
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: think it just matters to bypass bionics version, 3.17
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: ive seen a lot of hp printer issues before on users, when hplip-gui wasnt installed, after installing things work better
[17:31] <i7ch> ok, then i will install it fully
[17:31] <i7ch> it's a shame that in 2020 we still have this issue with devices that should be just plug & play
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: i need more users that help affect my bug, to raise importance so things get solved
[17:37] <i7ch> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1817214  <-- this seems to be my problem
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: let me know if you solve it that way
[17:50] <i7ch> sure
[17:58] <Harpagornis> Hi, I have problem, give root password for maintenance (or press ctrl+d to continue), when execute  the command do-release-upgrade
[17:59] <MrSteve> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HzJvkQvf9f/  -
[18:00] <MrSteve> I got no grub or windows loading.
[18:01] <MrSteve> I got the boor-repair (script, pasted above)
[18:01] <MrSteve> this is after.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vd9yPRdTjn/
[18:02] <MrSteve> I think, I will try fall-back bios update that was given by HP..
[18:03] <MrSteve> finally , jusy loaded ubuntu with grub.  no windows loads now from the grub menu.
[18:03] <jjoeshua> does Net Speed works on Focal Fossa ? I cant install it.. :/
[18:03] <i7ch> @lotuspsychje, so .. running hp-setup I get "error: No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality." and sysctl shows me "io/hpmud/musb.c 2099: Invalid usb_open: Permissiom denied"
[18:04] <i7ch> *journalctl
[18:05] <i7ch> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mpZJh2Vt6J/
[18:05] <Harpagornis> Hi, I have problem, give root password for maintenance (or press ctrl+d to continue), when execute  the command do-release-upgrade, help me?  Thanks
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | Harpagornis
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> !details | Harpagornis
[18:06] <jjoeshua> does Net Speed works on Focal Fossa ? I cant install it.. :/
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: maybe you might need to talk to the #ubuntu-server guys, i only tested the gui part of hplip and hplip-gui and installing latest made everything work for me
[18:07] <i7ch> gotcha
[18:07] <i7ch> i ill try there
[18:07] <Harpagornis> pragmaticenigma, sorry
[18:08] <pragmaticenigma> !ubuntu+1 | jjoeshua
[18:09] <thiras> hello. it's 18.04. How can I delete all saved settings of gnome calculator?
[18:12] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: most applications save their user configurations in a folder within ~/.config or ~/.local
[18:13] <thiras> pragmaticenigma, i've checked both. it's not there
[18:14] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: try /var/snap/ and see if there is an entry there for calculator
[18:14] <thiras> yeah it's snap package but there is no /var/snap directory
[18:15] <thiras> is there a command to reset snap package?
[18:16] <AssociateX> I have the Ubuntu 18.04.2 iso, where what is on the server is 18.04.4, will that make a difference for installing?
[18:16] <sixwheeledbeast> nope
[18:16] <AssociateX> Thank you.
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> AssociateX: Desktop versus Server are just designations of the user interface that you will be presented with after installation. There are some deeper differences, but they're minimal
[18:17] <grawity> gp5st__: not all models – but at least the Zero does
[18:18] <grawity> gp5st__: for traditional type-B/micro-B ports it's usually labelled "OTG mode" in specs
[18:19] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: If it was installed as  a snap you should have a folder /var/snap/gnome-calculator
[18:19] <thiras> ah yes you right
[18:19] <thiras> it's there
[18:19] <gp5st__> grawity, thanks!
[18:21] <cluelessperson_> So I've recently made a loop through a bunch of OSes lately and I've decided I was wrong to even think about installing anything other than ubuntu.
[18:21] <cluelessperson_> Ubuntu is great.
[18:21] <cluelessperson_> I was just seeking more hardware support, but it's not worth the danger.
[18:21] <thiras> 544  704  common  current directories are there. but all of them is empty
[18:21] <cluelessperson_> I'm sticking with Ubuntu
[18:21] <thiras> i've also checked for dot files. they are totally empty
[18:22] <thiras> pragmaticenigma,
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: if it is a snap... it looks like things are saved in the ~/.snap/gnome-calculator folder
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: I recommend moving that folder, not deleting it until you are certain it was the right one
[18:23] <thiras> ok trying
[18:24] <thiras> pragmaticenigma, it didn't help. Still has some config on it
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: you did something like 'mv "~/snap/gnome-calculator" "~/gnome-calculator_bak"' ??
[18:27] <thiras> yeah
[18:27] <thiras> it created a new one when i opened it
[18:28] <thiras> settings must be somewhere else
[18:29] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: I've given all the places that an application would normally store its settings... anywhere else and i would assume that we're not talking about gnome-calculator
[18:30] <thiras> pragmaticenigma, it's gnome-calculator because when i moved the folder it created a new one at the opening. So we are correct about the software and snap package
[18:30] <thiras> it's totally weird
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: the only other folder I can find is /snap ... but there shouldn't be any user data stored there
[18:32] <thiras> ah the folder it's not empty
[18:32] <thiras> is it ok to move this one too?
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> no
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: what remaining customization was not removed when you moved the directory in your home folder?
[18:36] <knob> Hello everyone. o/
[18:37] <thiras> pragmaticenigma, financial mode + selected currencies
[18:38] <knob> Question: I have a xubuntu installation.  I just installed a new video card on my computer (previous video was via motherboard).  After installing this video card, when I power up the computer I get the password prompt for LUKS.   I place the password, and the computer continues rebooting.
[18:38] <thiras> my purpose of resetting the settings is because it doesn't save the changes
[18:38] <knob> Yet at some point between booting up and login into xfce, I get no video anymore.
[18:38] <thiras> so I thought resetting its settings might help
[18:38] <knob> What can I do to troubleshoot the video card?
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: I'm not familiar with that aspect of gnome-calculator .. haven't used it before
[18:39] <LordDoskias> hello i have a 2 monitor setup, both of them are using display port, when i connect a 3rd - HDMI monitor i get flicker on one of my DP monitors? ANy ideas how to debug this I'm using HWE kernels, radeon rx570, this is the output of xrandr --query : https://termbin.com/hve3
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> thiras: those might be saved somewhere deeper and I'm not sure how to reset a snap
[18:40] <thiras> yeah me neither
[18:42] <gp5st__> Can the "special" key codes like KEY_VOLUMEDOWN over a serial console? How would that work and how would I have to configure the termcap or tty on the remote device?
[18:46] <gp5st__> or heck, even the function keys
[18:46] <cluelessperson_> Is there any laptop that's basically certain to operate perfectly on ubuntu in terms of hardware support?
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> !hardware | cluelessperson_
[18:47] <gp5st__> or will they jut be sent as control sequences and I can just decode them on the other end?
[18:47] <cluelessperson_> pragmaticenigma, thanks
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> gp5st__: You might have better luck asking in a more programming specific channel or ##linux
[18:47] <LordDoskias> hello i have a 2 monitor setup, both of them are using display port, when i connect a 3rd - HDMI monitor i get flicker on one of my DP monitors? ANy ideas how to debug this I'm using HWE kernels, radeon rx570, this is the output of xrandr --query : https://termbin.com/hve3
[18:48] <MrSteve> hi.. EriC^  ?
[18:49] <MrSteve> oh gee
[18:49] <MrSteve> .. now all I get is ubuntu.
[18:49] <i7ch> hei, what windows x server would you guys recommend?
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> MrSteve: they left a few hours ago... it is night time in their part of the world
[18:50] <cluelessperson_> ProCycle, thanks again for the link, I'm likely to buy one of these. :P
[18:50] <MrSteve> yea. I'll try tomorrow
[18:51] <cluelessperson_> pragmaticenigma, sorry, that was for you, thanks for the link, I'll likely be buying one of those.
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> i7ch: There is only one X-server... if you mean display server ... the two that are supported here are X-Server (aka X11, and X.org) and Wayland
[18:51] <i7ch> no, no. i was asking for using under windows10 so i could do some ssh x forwarding
[18:51] <i7ch> sorry that is not a specific ubuntu questions
[18:52] <pragmaticenigma> i7ch: I personally have setup cygwin on my windows machines and installed it's X.org packages for X-forwarding
[18:52] <i7ch> thank you
[18:54] <DArqueBishop> i7ch: personally I have had a lot of luck with VcXsrv for X11 on Windows.
[18:55] <pragmaticenigma> i7ch: the instructions I've followed with success are here: https://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup.html
[18:55] <i7ch> super. thanks guys
[19:04] <akem> Hey, i want to mount a samba share just like Thunar or Nautilus do but from a script, any idea about this? (i know how to mount it in /mnt for ex, but for Thunar it uses something like "/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=192.168.1.11,share=Film_5" and it's located in the "Network" area in the File manager)
[19:05] <akem> So that i could dismount it from the file manager GUI later.
[19:06] <pragmaticenigma> akem: I think to get that, Thunar has to initiate the shared resource
[19:06] <akem> pragmaticenigma, You mean it's internal and i can't replicate it?
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> akem: meaning that I don't think you can script it out in a way that Thunar recognizes it... however... you might want to mount to /media/{username}/mount_name instead. There might be something watching that specific folder for mounts
[19:08] <akem> pragmaticenigma, Ok, thanks.
[19:11] <theborger> can ayone tell me how to install nvclock for Nvidia?  i tried sudo apt-get install -y nvclock-gtk and package is not found
[19:11] <akem> pragmaticenigma, Yep, it works in /media/{username}, ty.
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> theborger: While you're free to execute commands how you like. I would encourage you to break the habit of executing apt and apt-get with the -y argument. There have been a dozen recent help sessions here where people used that and really did damage to their installations. The "-y" is meant for use with scripts, not manual execution
[19:15] <theborger> pragmaticenigma: thanks i did not know that.
[19:15] <theborger> now does anyone know how to get nvclock installed? please? and thanks
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> theborger: are you trying to control the fan speeds... there is no package called nvclock
[19:20] <theborger> pragmaticenigma: trying to find out what its running at.  I installed it for Plex to use as a transcoder. just want to make sure its actually using it
[19:21] <pragmaticenigma> the nvidia settings control panel will display output about the current condition of the card
[19:22] <ioria> theborger, the last supported version for that pkg is 14.04
[19:23] <theborger> ioria: ah ok
[19:23] <theborger> pragmaticenigma: i dont have control panel installed
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> theborger: from what I am reading on line... that is the currently known way to monitor the card
[19:23] <ioria> theborger, he means nvidia-settings
[19:24] <ioria> theborger, if you use nvidia driver you should have it
[19:25] <theborger> ioria: i had to install the stand alone drivers to be able to use the other parts i needed to install.  All i see is Nvidia X Server Settings
[19:26] <theborger> and if i click on that it does not load
[19:26] <ioria> theborger, stand alone ... you mean the .run installer ?
[19:26] <theborger> ioria: yes .run
[19:26] <theborger> i needed the 440 drivers
[19:27] <theborger> looking at top there is zero load on the cpu. so the gpu must be working i guess
[19:29] <theborger> ah found what i was looking for   nvidia-smi -q  gives me the info
[19:29] <theborger> thanks for the help guys
[19:33] <pavlos> theborger: look at nvidia-smi, to the right there is GPU-Util (2nd row)
[19:52] <fission6> how do i install postgresql-pg-repack-10 but avoid doing an apt-get update, i just want to directly get this package
[19:54] <Jordan_U> fission6: It sounds like you're going about things the wrong way, don't just add repositories without a lot of care.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> fission6: What is your end goal? (why do you need postgresql-pg-repack-10?)
[19:54] <fission6> i need to install `apt-get install postgresql-10-repack` but its not available inside of a docker container, so i am trying to be as precise as possible and add it to the image
[19:55] <hggdh> fission6: just tried to find such a package, but rmadison returned nothing. Are you sure (1) this is the package name, and (2) it is available in the repos?
[19:56] <fission6> apt-get update;apt-get install postgresql-10-repack
[19:56] <fission6> works
[19:56] <fission6> sorry the above was the wrong name!
[19:57] <hggdh>  postgresql-10-repack | 1.4.2-2 | bionic/universe | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
[19:57] <Jordan_U> fission6: So it sounds like the image you have has universe in its /etc/apt/sources.list, but doesn't have the package list for universe grabbed yet. Does that sound correct?
[19:59] <fission6> http://dpaste.com/2VTP0AN hggdh Jordan_U
[20:02] <Jordan_U> fission6: This is #ubuntu, not #debian.
[20:02] <fission6> lol i see that now
[20:02] <fission6> ok thanks
[21:01] <oerheks> coronakapsel vind ik dan wel weer leuk
[21:20] <deepweep> Hi, I have been using focal fossa and yaru dark theme. But I feel like the dark theme is 90% there and few items are still not dark. For example, the right click menu, calendar from system tray etc.
[21:22] <deepweep> Does anyone feels the same?
[21:26] <AssociateX> I downloaded  ubuntu 18.04.4 and it was too big for my 2gb thumb drive, so I have 18.04.2 but it's kubuntu but fits on the drive. I'm not really wanting Plasma any longer, but then not sure if I want to venture out for a thumb drive. Is there a smaller install iso than the 2gb>
[21:26] <AssociateX> ?*
[21:31] <ducasse> !20.04 | deepweep
[21:34] <howudodat> hey, I'm having a brain freee problem on 18.04.4.  it's not the server download and it's not the desktop download.  It's an embedded device.  Something keeps overwriting my dns setttings.  netplan is not configured (using /etc/network/interfaces), nmcli dev show doesn't show any DNS settings.   but dns-nameservers from interfaces is not being used
[21:45] <mint> Hello i have a minor question regarding Ubuntu18.04 and when i'll try to execute sudo apt-get -y update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade, i get some small minor issues
[21:46] <Rocky-Ops> https://pastebin.com/jW2L3X4v
[21:46] <Rocky-Ops> Here's all the information regarding both my system, the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and also the actual errors. Somehow the mirrors can't be resolved and i don't really know or understand why
[21:47] <Rocky-Ops> Because the machine itself has connectivity and DNS is working as expected
[21:47] <EriC^^> !details | mint
[21:49] <oerheks> Rocky-Ops, change in software updates to main?
[21:49] <Rocky-Ops> oerheks: Do you mean, that i should change mirrors to main in within software-update GUI?
[21:50] <oerheks> jups
[21:50] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: when executing sudo apt-get -y update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade i get some minor errors. The errors that occur are "failed to fetch  http://"
[21:50] <oerheks> and you might want to try sudo apt dist-upgrade
[21:50] <Rocky-Ops> oerheks: did execute that right away, no errors.
[21:52] <EriC^^> Rocky-Ops: what's the link after failed to fetch
[21:52] <deepweep> I have a question. I am running a 9 year old laptop and everytime I try to open an app, it takes some time for the app to start. For example if I open firefox, it would take like 15 seconds. Until the app is open, I won't see any icon on the dock. Can I install some extension so that as soon as I clicked on the app, it will show the app icon on dock?
[21:54] <deepweep> Because of this issue, I click on the firefox like 3 times and after some time 3 firefox window will open at the same time.
[21:54] <Rocky-Ops> oerheks: When you say "Change in software updates to main" - Where exactly in within this GUI should i change to main? This picture is an example reference only
[21:54] <Rocky-Ops> oerheks: https://ubuntucommunity.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/optimized/2X/0/066b9693cc71aa34a82c028a641c722f9d699fb8_2_690x350.png
[21:54] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: The following http links unfortunatly fails to fetch.
[21:55] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: Err:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease
[21:55] <Rocky-Ops>   Could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com'
[21:55] <Rocky-Ops> Err:2 http://repository.spotify.com stable InRelease
[21:55] <Rocky-Ops>   Could not resolve 'repository.spotify.com'
[21:55] <Rocky-Ops> Err:3 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
[21:55] <Rocky-Ops>   Could not resolve 'se.archive.ubuntu.com'
[21:56] <Rocky-Ops> Drone: Sorry that i spam i didn't mean to ..
[21:56] <EriC^^> Rocky-Ops: seems like a dns issue
[21:56] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: Here's the output of the failed links http https://hastebin.com/ufugitezix.coffeescript
[21:57] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: yes i don't really know why maybe it could be within my hosts file i will try
[21:57] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: DNS itself is working and i can resolve example 1.1.1.1 or google.com
[22:01] <foo> I have a ubuntu box on my network. How can I ping "thehostnamehere" and see it show up on the network? This would make it easier to connect to via smba
[22:01] <foo> smb *
[22:03] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: you'll right its somehow something to do with DNS
[22:04] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: unfortunatly i don't know if it has to do with my custom hosts file or if it has to do with my custom resolv.conf
[22:04] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: i'll have to research.
[22:04] <spackle259> foo: /exit
[22:04] <EriC^^> Rocky-Ops: the guys in ##networking might be able to help out
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> foo: What you are looking for is called "Network Discovery" I can't find any up-to-date articles for newer version of Ubuntu. I've never gotten the feature to work and instead have just used /etc/hosts to list the IP address and the name of the computer it connects with
[22:08] <Rocky-Ops> EriC^^: thank you' will ask them
[22:08] <RikiRolly2> hi all
[22:09] <RikiRolly2> I have a problem with grub, could someone help me on it?
[22:10] <EriC^^> Rocky-Ops: no problem
[22:10] <EriC^^> RikiRolly2: what's the problem?
[22:10] <foo> pragmaticenigma: thank you, I can do that. I was hoping there was a simpler way... than doing that I on various computers that I want to mount the smb mount
[22:12] <RikiRolly2> @EriC^^ After a "sudo apt upgrade" command it required to configure GRUB package and I got the error: The GRUB boot loader was previously installed to a disk that is no longer present
[22:14] <RikiRolly2> EriC^^: It present the list of the devices but /dev/sda device is missing
[22:14] <EriC^^> RikiRolly2: ok, what's the state of apt currently? dpkg -l | grep -Ev "^(ii|rc)"
[22:14] <EriC^^> aha
[22:15] <EriC^^> RikiRolly2: can you tell it to ignore and continue for now?
[22:15] <RikiRolly2> I could try but I was cared to do mistakes
[22:15] <RikiRolly2> scared
[22:16] <RikiRolly2> EriC^^: you mean don't select any device right?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> RikiRolly2: Please pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc" *before* continuing.
[22:17] <Jordan_U> RikiRolly2: (From another terminal ideally)
[22:23] <RikiRolly2> Jordan U: https://pastebin.com/dV4dhPRS
[22:24] <Jordan_U> RikiRolly2: Interesting. It looks like you have grub-pc and grub-efi installed. Does your computer boot via BIOS or UEFI?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> RikiRolly2: Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep grub" .
[22:33] <foo> If my usernae is m, shouldn't this line in visudo NOT prompt me for root password? m    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ... it still does
[22:35] <pavlos> foo: that should be the LAST line in the sudoers file
[22:36] <foo> pavlos: huh, thank you. Was that always the case? Not sure how I've not noticed this in the past 20 years.
[22:40] <pavlos> foo: permissions are processed in order (top/down) so the username has to be last. Also, always edit with sudo visudo
[22:41] <foo> pavlos: yes, I do edit with visudo. Awesome, good to know - thank you
[22:46] <RikiRolly2> Jordan U: it boots via UEFI but I decided to select the second disk (Linux) via BIOS and I originally installed GRUB on the second disk
[22:48] <RikiRolly2> Jordan U: https://pastebin.com/uxG9FvPi
[23:02] <foo> How can I see connected usb3 devices via CLI?
[23:03] <sarnold> lsusb
[23:04] <Jordan_U> foo: "lsusb" will list all USB devices. Do you need to know if they're connected via USB 3?
[23:05] <foo> sarnold / Jordan_U  - ah, thank you. Don't need to know if they're usb, just wondering what's connected so then I can mount it
[23:05] <foo> Actually, lshw may work too IIRC
[23:05]  * foo rusty
[23:05] <sarnold> lshw takes forever though
[23:06] <sarnold> lsusb is quick, dmesg is usually how I find device nodes for mass storage
[23:06] <foo> sarnold: took < 3 seconds and shows me usb drives plus storage on each drive
[23:06] <foo> dmesg works well if I unplug and plug in the drive, IIRC
[23:06] <Jordan_U> foo: ls /dev/disk/by-path/*usb*
[23:06] <sarnold> like I said, takes forever :)
[23:07] <foo> sarnold: :P
[23:07] <Jordan_U> foo: Note, if you're going to use that in a script, don't actually use ls. Just somehting like for device in /dev/disk/by-path/*usb*; do ...
[23:09] <foo> Jordan_U: ah, negative, no script, just curious :) thanks
[23:09] <foo> If I run mount and see this: /dev/sdb1 on /samba/foo type fuseblk (rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096) ... is there a way to store that in fstab?
[23:09] <foo> I don't think I can copy/paste that
[23:17] <Jordan_U> foo: It's slightly different information, for example fstab should have a UUID rather than a device name.
[23:17] <Jordan_U> !fstab | foo
[23:19] <sarnold> foo: man wouldn't *that* be nice? output that you could feed back in as input? *sigh*
[23:19] <foo> sarnold: ... yeah. heh.
[23:20] <foo> Jordan_U: thank you, although this page says nothing about a uuid
[23:21] <foo> Looks like this can work https://askubuntu.com/a/683314
[23:22] <Jordan_U> foo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab mentions UUIDs multiple times. I would be more forceful than that page, and say that you should never use static device names in /etc/fstab .
[23:22] <foo> uh, nope. That didn't work when I umounted the mount and tried to add it back
[23:23] <foo> I have this in fstab: UUID=mydrive-1TB /samba/foo auto nosuid,nodev,nofail 0 0  ... then I try to mount /samba/foo ... doesn't work
[23:23] <Jordan_U> foo: "mydrive-1TB" may be a label, but it is not a uuid. A UUID looks like ff2cc6d6-2a5d-479b-8dcf-bb67b4c5c11e .
[23:24] <foo> Meh, then https://askubuntu.com/a/683314 is inaccurate. Thanks Jordan_U
[23:24] <Jordan_U> foo: Using a label is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
[23:24]  * foo does blkid /dev/sdb1 
[23:24] <foo> Jordan_U: I'd accept that if it worked :) Anyway, I see the UUID in blkid /dev/sdb1
[23:25] <foo> Jordan_U: there we go, looks like it works with proper UUID. Thank you.
[23:26] <Jordan_U> foo: You're welcome.
[23:30] <foo> I'm seeing the hostname of a ubuntu system under OS X in Locations. However, when I click on it, it says "Connection Failed." It's possible samba is broadcasting this or something else. Unless OS X is picking up a laptop with a hostname via bonjour and showing it or such? Any tips on troubleshooting this?
[23:35] <sarnold> foo: a few random ideas, check ss -tlnp output to make sure samba is listening, and bound to the addresses you expect; run tcpdump on both machines and see if the smb packets are leaving the os x machine and arriving at the linux machine, replies going back etc
[23:35] <rocketeer99> So I'm running 19.10 on a Dell G3, and ever since kernel 5.3.0-40 I have had no working sound. I found bug 1864061 that looks highly related and was supposedly fixed as of kernel version 5.3.0-46, yet I still have no sound on -46. Any ideas?
[23:36] <foo> sarnold: thanks. Even if I turn off samba, I still see the hostname under "Locations" in OS X of the ubuntu system. Hard to know if it's something other than samba or if the hostname shows up because of remnants and it wasn't removed under locations
[23:37] <rocketeer99> (the sound just shows up as "dummy output")
[23:38] <sarnold> foo: I'm in way less familiar territory there; I don't know mdns kind of things well
[23:39] <foo> sarnold: appreciate the attempt
[23:41] <sarnold> foo: this *might* help, mdns-scan  -- https://github.com/alteholz/mdns-scan/blob/master/README
[23:41] <spackle259> if you have two interface on your system. is it possible to force certain applications to use one over the other? eth0 vs eth1
[23:41] <sarnold> but it sounds like a pretty rough debugging tool
[23:41] <foo> sarnold: thanks
[23:42] <sarnold> spackle259: applications that accept connections usually have a way to set a 'bind address'; applications that only make connections are much less likely to have a way to specify which address to use when making a connection
[23:45] <spackle259> sarnold: gotcha.