[00:05] Hello all. I just need some direction. My desktop, Plasma was working fine before I went to bed, did not updates. Woke up this morning and Linux boots to the DM but Plasma does not start, the screen freezes on the KDE/Plasma splash. I can log into Blackbox and Fluxbox just fine, but I can't exit and go back the DM or switch from Flux to BB because [00:05] the screen freezes. [00:10] AssociateX: have you tried creating a new account on the machine and logging in with the new account into Plasma... if the new account works it would indicate something in your home directory has a problem [00:23] This is my routing table: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sKV4dqZdWX/ I am trying to load balance traffic across the two gateways .253 and .216, presently traffic goes only via the first route [00:25] mnathani: i'm not sure `route` understands any of the options you'd use for balancing traffic - could you pastebin `ip route` output? [00:26] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8xsJJPCw7t/ [00:26] ok, that looks like you just have two default routes, there won't be any balancing between them [00:26] is it complex to setup balancing? [00:26] if you want a multipath route, you could eg `ip route add default nexthop via 192.168.2.253 dev ens18 nexthop via 192.168.2.216 dev ens18` [00:28] pragmaticenigma great idea! I will do that right now. [00:28] looks good https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8GPqDfqVs5/ [00:29] do `ip route get ...` against a few IPs, and with any luck you should see it splitting traffic between the routers :) [00:35] Any knows some softaware for exploration the world ? [00:36] software* [00:37] Hello Ubuntu Community! [00:37] I can find support for the fingerprint reader vfs495.. [00:42] minall: there may be a list of supported devices on https://fprint.freedesktop.org/ [00:42] Thanks sarnold!, let me check If my device works [00:43] minall, I'd start here https://github.com/PetreBoboc/vfs495/blob/master/vfs495_ubuntu_18.04.md for that particular device [00:43] oh nice, vlouvet's url looks more promising :) [00:44] pragmaticenigma I really appreciate your help. I'm going to restart and see what happens. [00:44] I can do one hell of a google search haha [00:50] Thanks vlouvet, I'll restard hoping that it will work [00:51] tds: how do I get that ip route add default next hop to take effect on boot? [00:51] what are you using to bring up your interfaces on boot? [00:51] network/interfaces [00:52] I just wouldn't specify a gateway, and add up and down hooks that call ip route add/delete default... [00:59] quit [01:00] I get some errors : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qCXzKDbXCH/ [01:00] I am guessing my syntax is incorrect [01:01] hello [01:03] help [01:04] anyone here? === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [01:05] jstarcher: over a thousand clients, dunno who's looking, or who might able to help you with your problem.. [01:05] jstarcher: irc works best if you just ask questions [01:06] sarnold: for some reason I'm in #ubuntu-unregged even though I'm registerd [01:06] and I can't see other chats going on [01:06] or is there just no one talking now? [01:07] jstarcher: you'vew just got a knack for quitting at the wrong time :) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6YfsxPmwx/ [01:07] Is there a way to disable the 'restart now' prompt that appears after updates have been installed? [01:08] sarnold: haha I guess, thanks for the sanity check [01:09] anyway, the reason I'm here. I destroyed my ubuntu 19.04 system by installing a debian package like this: dpkg -i libcurl3-gnutls_7.64.0-4_amd64.deb [01:09] now I just get an error anytime I try to use apt: The following packages have unmet dependencies: [01:09] libcurl3-gnutls : Depends: libgnutls30 (>= 3.6.6) but 3.6.5-2ubuntu1.1 is to be installed [01:09] AssociateX: how'd it turn out? [01:09] I've tried fix-broken, apt-install -f and all of that. Nothing works [01:09] pragmaticenigma that did not work out at all. The new user did not work, not even with Flux after failing Plasma. Then my user name no longer worked for any DE either. I had to drop to a root shell and delete the new user. [01:10] AssociateX: That's rather strange [01:11] I tried removing the package too but get errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xhvKRw5GFw/ [01:13] pragmaticenigma yes. I'm guessing it is driver related to the Nvidia card but I have no proof yet. The frame buffer splash at boot time is especially slow for some reason is one clue, again with no proof other than that. [01:13] jstarcher: alright .. give me a second.. [01:13] AssociateX: that's unforunate [01:14] For sure. [01:14] jstarcher: try installing this package https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/17748861/+files/libcurl3-gnutls_7.64.0-2ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb [01:15] pragmaticenigma, I'm a hobbyist, and although I have been at this a long time, it's not something that I do daily. So I don't know which logs to check or if I should be asking elsewhere or what. [01:17] AssociateX: i'm not great when it comes to hardware and drivers... software stuff is where my strengths are [01:17] !19.04 | jstarcher [01:17] jstarcher: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) was the 30th release of Ubuntu, support ended January 2020. see !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-January/005263.html [01:19] pragmaticenigma, would you like to do a couple of other simple checks for software? My assumptions should not rule out looking there. [01:20] sarnold: OMG THAT WORKED!!!! [01:20] jstarcher: sweet [01:20] thank you soooo much! This has had me hung up for days [01:20] jstarcher: next step, take Bashing-om's advice and upgrade to 19.10 :) [01:21] jstarcher: was it enough to just dpkg -i that file? or did you need to do something to convince it to downgrade? [01:21] I've not done that in ages.. [01:21] yeaaaa, good idea. I'll backup and get that going [01:21] Is there a howto for upgrading from 18.10 LTS to 19.10? [01:21] just dpkg -i worked [01:21] AssociateX: usually a new user setup can do the trick. the other thing i've done the past is temporarily move my home directory to something like /home/user_bak ... from the terminal and then restart the gui and log-in [01:22] jstarcher: cool cool [01:22] pragmaticenigma I sure can do that, mv /home/user* to /home/userBAK. [01:23] AssociateX: no need for the * ... just make sure there is no trailling slash [01:24] mnathani: oops, missed that - RTNETLINK answers: File exists usually means it's attempting to add an ip or route that already exists - if you have physical access to this box, you could try forcing the interface down, ie ifdown --force --verbose ens18; ip link set ens18 down; ip addr flush dev ens18, then ifup --verbose it to bring it back up and [01:24] see exactly where it goes wrong [01:26] pragmaticenigma are you going to be around a while? [01:27] an hour or so? [01:27] roughly sure [01:29] pragmaticenigma what is CLI to rename the dir /home/username? [01:30] will mv mess with permissions? or will that just rename the dir? [01:30] I forget. [01:31] AssociateX: just do "mv /home/associatex /home/associatex_bak" [01:31] thank you. [01:31] it's a good moment to try beta or wait final version? [01:32] pragmaticenigma okay, bbl. Hopefully less than 10 minutes [01:33] lestac: I recommend waiting for the final release. If you have further questions about Focal Fossa 20.04, please ask in #ubuntu+1 [01:33] well, thanks! :D === skookum9 is now known as skookum === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === skookum4 is now known as skookum [01:53] pragmaticenigma well, I'm a diagnostic tech and it really bothers me to not try something when there is some aspect that I can't predict. I didn't think mv 'ing the user dir would help, and it didn't. But what did happen is that I see that there is something else going on. I can't make a new user and login in, and I can't make a new dir for my user [01:53] and login, but with my original ~/ I can login to Flux real quick. The other logins froze with login into Flux or KDE. I didn't try BB though. Anyway, I still got information to think about. [01:54] I still can't login into Plasma under any situation. [01:54] ...that I've tried. === skookum7 is now known as skookum [02:00] AssociateX: I guess that means something deeper is working against you [02:01] AssociateX: After moving the home directory... were you able to login with one of the other DEs and have it create your user folder? [02:01] I would say that it would now be hard to point to a driver when it works with this user by not others. [02:02] pragmaticenigma no, a new user folder was not created. Good question because I forgot to report that to you. [02:03] pragmaticenigma I was not able to login with any DE and no new user dir was created. [02:04] interesting [02:04] it is very strange for it to do this on its own, with no updates having been applied [02:06] pragmaticenigma I'm sober and have been for a long time. But how would we check change logs for anything installed. I don't want to rule anything out even if I don't remember doing it. [02:07] tripelbb: I was able to tinker around a little bit more and was able to figure out how to get that application installed. From the command line use the "sudo apt install ./package.deb" approach. That seemed to kick off the installation for me and was able to obtain the dependencies the package needed as well [02:09] AssociateX: I blieve package installations all get logged in /var/log/dpkg.log [02:09] Okay, looking up right now. === skookum9 is now known as skookum [02:14] pragmaticenigma I did installed some stuff. nmap to port sniff my friends server, then tidy for html code. I'm going to have to figure out if there is anything else here that would wonk things out: https://pastebin.com/tfPdPAec [02:15] AssociateX: did you add any PPAs to get either of those tools installed? [02:17] Refresh my memory for PPA [02:17] pragmaticenigma^^^ [02:17] !ppa [02:17] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [02:18] I down loaded tidy to my home dir and installed from there. [02:18] AssociateX: was the a build? compiled from source? [02:19] pragmaticenigma I think it was a binary, let me check right now. [02:22] pragmaticenigma it was a binary. [02:22] I'm really not sure what might have happened... it would be really odd for either of those to really have any effect on KDE/Plasma [02:23] Right, it's just a code formatting tool, cli [02:23] AssociateX: at this point you might have to dig through the older files. I know that sometimes certain updates without a reboot will eventually cause strange behavior. Especially if any graphics drivers were installed [02:24] AssociateX: and while odd, maybe a reboot is what the system needs at the moment. Hard to say [02:25] unfortunately, I've gotta sign off for the evening. I do wish you luck AssociateX [02:26] pragmaticenigma hey [02:26] I know what it is. [02:27] AssociateX: A thought - loose ownership of /home when installing the tool ? What shows ' ls -al /home /home/AssociateX/ ' ? [02:27] I messed with snap yesterday without knowing what it was. I'm going to reinstall it. [02:27] Bashing-om I'm going to try something then report back [02:28] what's "factory setting" (fresh install) of iptables in ubuntu? just null? [02:29] nvm i found it, it's just "empty" [02:30] rud0lf: sudo iptables -L === skookum3 is now known as skookum [02:53] Hello people. I borked my Plasma yesterday by deleting a Snap dir somewhere. I'm on 18.10 LTS. Do you have any suggestions. I bring up that I'm on 18.10 because I have not been able to install packages with Muon, just apt-get and it's not my strong suit. [02:53] hello, i am newbie in irc #ubuntu, may i know telegram group for Ubuntu International like this... [03:00] AssociateX: What is the output of "cat /etc/issue"? [03:02] Ubuntu 18.10 which is no longer supported. [03:02] Jordan_U^^^ [03:03] AssociateX: Indeed, Ubuntu 18.10 is not an LTS release, and is EOL. We can help you upgrade to a supported version of Ubuntu, but it plasma is already broken then a re-install (preserving /home/) may make more sense than multiple upgrades. [03:03] s/it plasma/if plasma/ [03:04] Let's try to upgrade. [03:04] Jordan_U [03:05] AssociateX: You can also upgrade entirely in a terminal using do-release-upgrade. I think that's probably advisable if your plasma isn't working. I assume you're using Kubuntu. Is that correct? [03:06] I think that I'm using Ubuntu with KDE installed, not a Kubuntu install. [03:06] AssociateX: Do you have a working LiveUSB ready in case things go wrong? Do you happen to use btrfs (in which case snapshots can be helpful, and IIRC will be created automatically for you during upgrade). [03:06] It's been a long time, how would we check? Jordan_U [03:07] hi. can someone please tell me why i keep getting an inconsistent indentation on "nameservers:" https://i.imgur.com/d6o7QgG.png the _ next to it is just the cursor and because I can't get the network up, I can't SSH and pastebin the text so I took a screenshot. hope that's okay [03:07] Jordan_U I have two hd, one solid state, another disc with 1tb mostly free. [03:08] Jordan_U what do you think about doing a repair before upgrading? [03:08] AssociateX: What is the output of "dpkg -l | grep buntu-desktop" ? [03:08] http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu cosmic ,for reference [03:09] AssociateX: Two problems with that. 1: We explicitly don't support EOL releases, except to help upgrading to a supported release 2: Frankly, I don't have a lot of experience with KDE or snaps myself (though I have some). [03:09] dpkg -l | grep -i ubuntu-desktop does not give anything. [03:10] AssociateX: Then you don't have any of the major desktop "metapackages" installed. A normal Ubuntu install has the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, Kubuntu kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, etc. [03:10] Jordan_U, I would only repair this old version to aid in upgrading. I had no idea I was so far out of date. [03:11] I prefer the latest stable. === skookum3 is now known as skookum [03:12] Jordan_U yeah, that sounds right. I think I did a small Ubuntu install then put on KDE, Fluxbox, and Blackbox. [03:12] AssociateX: Why do you prefer upgrading (to Ubuntu 19.04, then 19.10, then in less than a month 20.04 LTS will be availalble) to installing fresh? [03:15] Jordan_U I dual boot on a Dell. I've made errors before where the laptop no longer works after a fresh install and takes reinstalling Window just to get the thing to work. The mistake is easy to make, I've done it twice and both times took me a long time to fix. I have to use someone else's Windows machine to even download the file from Dell, it's [03:15] and insane process if I make a mistake that way. [03:17] Jordan_U I would prefer to take the safest route even if it's longer. [03:17] AssociateX: I think that you should prepare for the upgrade to fail, and be ready with installation media (I'd recommend *buntu 18.04 LTS, which you'll be able to directly upgrade to 20.04 LTS). [03:18] AssociateX: And while you're preparing that, maybe download said file from Windows now and back it up somewhere. === skookum7 is now known as skookum [03:19] Jordan_U that all sounds completely sane. [03:19] AssociateX: What is the output of "dpkg -l | grep kde"? [03:20] Jordan_U there looks to be about 100 lines of info. Is there something that you want to grep for specifically? [03:22] !pastebin | AssociateX [03:22] AssociateX: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. === skookum5 is now known as skookum [03:24] AssociateX: I want to get an idea of how much of the KDE desktop you have installed at the moment, I don't have specific packages in mind right now and I think it would be easier for me to look through the output than do research to find specific packages to ask you about. [03:26] Jordan_U https://pastebin.com/rDVcyLQz [03:32] AssociateX: Do you have the "plasma-desktop" package installed? Do you have any snaps still installed? [03:33] I don't know. [03:34] ^^^@jord [03:34] Jordan_U [03:34] Jordan_U yes, I do. [03:35] AssociateX: "apt policy plasma-desktop" it will either tell you the version you have installed (among other information) or "Installed: (none)". (You could also do "dpkg -l | grep plasma-desktop" ). [03:36] AssociateX: You do have plasma-desktop installed or you do have snaps still installed? [03:36] Jordan_U now I don't know [03:36] :~$ apt policy plasma-desktopplasma-desktop: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: 4:5.13.5-1ubuntu4 -1 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [03:37] dpkg -l | grep plasma-desktoprc plasma-desktop 4:5.13.5-1ubuntu4 === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [03:38] AssociateX: Does it say "II" (for installed) at the beginning of the dpkg -l output? [03:38] Jordan_U how would I set my respositories to the old ones and repair the packages? [03:39] here is the dpkg output: rc plasma-desktop 4:5.13.5-1ubuntu4 amd64 Tools and widgets for the desktop [03:40] Jordan_U I do not see a "II" on that line or elsewhere. [03:40] AssociateX: That means that it was installed in the past, and the configuration files for it are still around, but it has since been removed. [03:40] AssociateX: That may well explain why plasma "isn't working", though that's still not really our goal at the moment... [03:42] AssociateX: Please prepare a *buntu 18.04 LTS or *buntu 19.10 LiveUSB, grab your file from Windows and back it up, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades . [03:43] Jordan_U that will take a while for me. [03:43] Jordan_U Thank you for your help. [03:43] AssociateX: You're welcome. Good luck. Feel free to ping me another day if you're still working on this upgrade. [03:44] Will do. === skookum2 is now known as skookum === hextreme is now known as thinker === thinker is now known as bt40 [04:44] I'm on 18.10, is there a reason why Muon does not authenticate for package removal and refuses to remove packages? [04:51] I'm looking to install Japanese input on Ubuntu 18.04. Is anyone able to help me navigate this? I've managed to install it but I'm not able to figure out how to change the actual input when I select Japanese. When I type, it still comes out in English. [04:56] j [04:56] J like... Japanese? [05:11] Anyone kicking around? [05:13] vysty: Are you fluent in Japanese, and do you have another machine that you can communicate in Japanese comfortably with? If so, #ubuntu-jp might be the best place to get help for this. [05:13] Definitely not fluent. [05:14] My wife is Japanese and wants me to get Japanese input on my computer. [05:14] And she speaks no Ubuntuese. :P [05:15] vysty: I have no personal experience with this so the best I can do is google and help with more general Ubuntu aspects of the problem. I assume you've seen https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032721/how-to-enable-japanese-input-in-ubuntu-mate-18-04 . If so, was it helpful? [05:16] vysty: Ahh, that was for MATE. What desktop environment are you using? [05:16] Jordan_U: Yes. The issue that I seem to be having when I compare to everything that I Google, is that there are multiple Japense inputs available once you install Japanese. The input you want is (mozc). I don't have (mozc) available. [05:17] So now I'm wondering if/how to install mozc to have it available. [05:17] vysty: So step 7 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput can't be followed because mozc is not among the available options? [05:18] Jordan_U: correct [05:20] vysty: What options for japanese are listed? [05:21] Ohhhh.... we got Japanese w/nothing, Japanese (Dvorak), (Kana 86), (Kana), (Macintosh), (OADG 109A), and (PC-98) [05:23] Jordan_U: Kana will actually write some Japanese characters, but not in any way that's remotely useful. [05:23] vysty: And you logged out and back in again, following step #5 ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput again )? [05:23] No I did not. Let me try that now. [05:24] Jordan_U: that allowed me to search for the Japanese options faster, but still not mozc. [05:24] no* [05:25] Jordan_U: Allllllrighty. I found a mozc source package. You have the ability to help me install this thing? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/mozc [05:27] vysty: Try just "sudo apt install ibus-mozc" before you do that. [05:28] Jordan_U: Already the newest version. :/ [05:28] vysty: Are you using a Wayland session? [05:29] Jordan_U: I'm unfamiliar with Wayland sessions so... probably not? [05:30] Jordan_U: Do you advise not installing this mozc .tar.xz I found on the launchpad? [05:30] vysty: Definitely do not install anything from source right now. === leion1 is now known as leion [05:32] Jordan_U: Gotcha. I'll wait. [05:34] vysty: What is the output of "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE" ? [05:35] x11 [05:36] vysty: Then you are not using Wayland. [05:37] Jordan_U: That good or bad? [05:37] vysty: It means that Wayland isn't causing your problem, and thus switching to Xorg won't help. [05:38] Jordan_U: Welp, that's step 1. [05:40] vysty: Since you mentioned that you hadn't logged out and back in again, try following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput exactly, even if it means repeating steps you've already performed. Maybe there's something else you missed. I will note that https://moritzmolch.com/2404 has multiple commenters describing what seems to be the same problem you're having, and the only one of them that [05:40] posted that they found a solution said the "solution" was re-installing :( [05:41] Jordan_U: Reinstalling Ubuntu? [05:41] vysty: Yes. [05:41] Jordan_U: Blarghopotomos. [05:43] Jordan_U: I'll tackle this another day. I appreciate your time to help me out. [05:44] vysty: Worth testing this from an Ubuntu 18.04 LiveUSB, see if you can reproduce the problem. [05:44] Jordan_U: Might be easier to figure out how to get my wife's computer connected to the printer so we can just bypass the situation on my computer entirely. [05:55] Can ntldr in windows 10 load ubuntu ? [05:55] Or only ubuntu should be in the mbr ? [05:56] i think people have done it before, but you're much better off just putting Ubuntu's GRUB into the MBR and letting it chainload to ntldr if you want to run Windows. [05:57] raddy: The simplest configuration, which Ubuntu's installer creates, is grub in the mbr (+ post mbr gap), which chainloads Windows' bootloader. I wouldn't recommend trying something different. Is there are reason that you want Windows' boot sector in the MBR? [05:57] s/are reason/a reason/ [05:58] Ohhhhh [06:02] I'm getting poor performance on openssl after doing a release upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04... at boot, I see "[ 29.055227] AVX or AES-NI instructions are not detected." in the log [06:02] however, my CPU does have AES-NI [06:03] I also see the kernel module aesni_intel is loaded (but used by 0) [06:04] my CPU (N3150) supports AES-NI according to the spec sheet on intel.com [06:07] ee99ee: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" . [06:17] Jordan_U: https://pastebin.com/KxijtkDV [06:17] I also added some more info at the bottom of that pastebin [06:17] this is the CPU: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/87258/intel-celeron-processor-n3150-2m-cache-up-to-2-08-ghz.html [06:18] note "Security & Reliability - Intel® AES New Instructions: Yes" [06:19] ee99ee: Perhaps that error message just means that you're missing AVX. [06:21] ee99ee: (A confusing use of the word "or") === iurrr1 is now known as iurrr [06:32] anyone here help with disk partitions in ubuntu [06:32] ee99ee: Indeed, from reading the code in arch/x86/crypto/camellia_aesni_avx_glue.c where that error message comes from, that error message will be displayed if any of X86_FEATURE_AVX , X86_FEATURE_AES, or X86_FEATURE_OSXSAVE is missing on the boot CPU. Poorly worded error message in my opinion. Not sure if that info gets you any closer to a solution :( [06:33] Braydez2017: For this channel, and most IRC channels, the best thing to do is just ask your question. If anyone can help, they will. [06:34] thanks will do [06:35] hey i'm trying to figure out syntax for Makefile. The command man make doesn't give any info only suggests to check out info make which outputs the same exact text [06:37] so i have a server running ubuntu 18, i have 40 tb of space unallocted and unpartitioned via 4 seperate 12 tb drives, i wish to allocate theese drives to the place where the home directory is currently so i can use them for storage, tried using gparted to move but cannot allocate. Can it be done or should i reinstall and try to do it via partitions from the beginning, bear in mind i only have remote o/s install from a [06:37] a control panel [06:40] Braydez2017: Are you wanting a RAID / LVM setup to use the space from all of these drives at once? [06:45] yes i just need that storage space to be accessible by xtreamui which uses the home directory [06:45] Jordan_U: I see [06:45] and that directory only so cannot redirect the folder path target to anywhere else but its own folder [06:46] Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on [06:46] udev 16302416 0 16302416 0% /dev [06:46] tmpfs 3266632 1252 3265380 1% /run [06:46] tmpfs 16333140 33012 16300128 1% /dev/shm [06:47] !pastebin | Braydez2017 [06:47] Braydez2017: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [06:47] tmpfs 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock [06:47] tmpfs 16333140 0 16333140 0% /sys/fs/cgroup [06:47] tmpfs 2097152 156 2096996 1% /home/xtreamcodes/iptv_xtream_codes/tmp [06:47] Braydez2017: I've quieted you for a bit to prevent the channel from being filled with your long output. I will unquiet you in a minute or two. Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com in the future. [06:49] Braydez2017: You can now talk in the channel again and we will be able to see what you post. [06:50] okay i will past to pastebin [06:51] have posted first one is wrong server second one shows df [06:51] Braydez2017: You need to post the link here. We can't view your pastebin post without the link. [06:52] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GCWJpv4Rv/ [06:53] Braydez2017: You'll need to decide on a technology to use to combine the drives, the main options being LVM, mdraid, btrfs, and zfs. Also, you should strongly consider adding some redundancy. If you have all drives combined with no redundancy, then with most technologies you're going to lose all of your data if just one of the drives ever fails. [06:54] okay so for 4x 12 tb disks what would you suggest? [07:01] Braydez2017: What are you going to be using this for? [07:01] vod content [07:04] Braydez2017: And how devistated would you be if you lost all of your videos? [07:06] would be fine as i have back up server holding them === cryocaustik9 is now known as cryocaustik [07:10] Braydez2017: Do you feel like drive speed will be a common bottleneck? (I asked to see if data should be striped across the drives or not). [07:11] Braydez2017: And to be clear, this is Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, not Ubuntu 18.10. Correct? [07:18] yes 18.04 and it has to be accessed at a speed that can cope with multiple people viewing possibly at the same time thats it everything else speed isnt an issue [07:21] Braydez2017: If it were me, I would probably use btrfs with metadata raid1 and data raid0. I would choose it because it's easy to setup initially, and allows for flexible changing afterward. Downsides are 1: btrfs itself is less mature and stable than LVM or mdraid 2: btrfs will likely have worse performance than ext4 over mdraid or LVM. 3: With any form of raid0 you're going to basically lose all of [07:21] your data if any one drive dies. One nice thing about btrfs is that you'll still be able to recover the metadata, but that's often not very helpful anyway. [07:23] okay thanks alot [07:23] i will try that now and see how i get on [07:25] Braydez2017: Others would probably recommend mdraid or lvm instead, and would recommend raid1 even though you are OK with losing all of your data. I think it would be good for you to do some research about the differences between raid1 and raid0, and what "striping" is. I'm going to sleep now, and I'm worried that you might not have enough background knowledge to accomplish this safely. But, if you have [07:25] good backups maybe that doesn't matter. [07:27] Braydez2017: Once you've created some sort of volume to hold your /home/ you'll need to copy the contents of your /home/ to it, then edit your /etc/fstab to mount the new volume at the mountpoint /home/. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab [07:28] okay great thanks [07:39] hello . Can I get some help please with: no free space left on device error? [07:42] user217_, I think that means that you no longer have free space on the device [07:42] Armageddon: look like this [07:42] it's actually most likely that you're out of space, it says so in the error [07:43] I'm not really sure what kind of help you require, do you want to figure out what's eating up space ? or ? [07:44] the solution is usually easy, either delete or move somewhere else [07:46] Armageddon: I'm not shure what I can to delete and what eat my space [08:00] user217_, df -h <--- and ---> du -sh ~ [08:00] those two commands should set you up to a good start ;) [08:06] Armageddon: now I see that / is full [08:07] but still dont understand how to clean it [08:11] user217_: start with "sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove purge" [08:11] user217_: start with "sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" [08:12] EriC^^: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [08:12] EriC^^: dpkg: error: failed to write status database record about 'ksaneplugin' to '/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device [08:13] If I try to do sudo dpkg --configure -a [08:13] user217_: Stop trying to do anything with dpkg / apt until you have freed up space. [08:13] user217_: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb" [08:14] EriC^^: does sudo apt-get clean dont do this? [08:15] user217_: yeah but you said apt isnt working [08:15] user217_: is there free space now? try df -h [08:15] EriC^^: sudo apt-get clean worked fine, but dont give the solution [08:16] the problem was with sudo apt-get autoremove --purge [08:16] user217_: pastebin 'df -h' [08:17] user217_: Be careful and check what "sudo apt-get autoremove" wants to remove before you run it again. I would personally not add the --purge as configuration files are often quite useful, and generally quite small. [08:17] EriC^^: df -h [08:18] EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6rpwjdpbP/ [08:18] sorry :) [08:19] user217_: what does 'ls -l /boot' give? [08:19] EriC^^: A user that has (for whatever reason) removed a metapackage like ubuntu-desktop could end up having "apt autoremove" remove most of their system, including all of their ability to log in graphically. Adding --purge makes it that much harder to get back to where they were, because now they've lost their configuration files too. Please keep things like this in mind when giving adivce, especially to [08:19] newer users. [08:19] Jordan_U: bruh xD [08:20] EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6z4DZzH6CZ/ [08:21] user217_: i think i will refrain from helping since a bully op is here currently, if you want /join ##linux i will continue helping there [08:22] sorry about that [08:25] user217_: Please pastebin the output of "du -h ~/*" That will tell us the names of all of the file / directories in your home directory and how much space each is taking. Be sure to check that there's nothing there that you would mind being public before you pastebin it. [08:26] Jordan_U: the home directory is not full, the problem is on / [08:27] user217_: Ahh, I didn't notice that you have a separate /home/ partition. [08:27] EriC^^: I join linux channel [08:28] user217_: "du -h /var/log/" often when space mysteriously fills up it's from something doing an absurd amount of logging. [08:28] Jordan_U: var/log is 68mb size [08:31] user217_: du -sh /* [08:33] Jordan_U: pastebin du -h ~/* seems a bit privacy breaking [08:33] (for your future reference) [08:33] EriC^^: Indeed, I meant to ask for -sh. Thank you. [08:33] still kinda is [08:34] EriC^^: Agreed, that's why I suggested that they look over the output before pastebinning it. [08:35] ah right [08:38] Hey all - anybody knows how to enable multi-touch gestures on the touchscreen (not on touchpad - - - this works)? [08:38] I am already on 20.04... [08:39] come join at #ubuntu+1 for 20.04 support please Dr8g0n [08:56] user217_: From your mount output it looks like you have a lot of snaps installed. Sometimes snaps can use a lot more space than you'd expect. [09:03] Jordan_U: so what is solution? [09:04] user217_: you could clean out your system, uninstall unwanted packages/snaps [09:04] free space with bleachbit for example [09:05] lotuspsychje: ok. I remove one app but still have the same problem [09:06] !autoremove [09:06] !kernelcleanup [09:06] For information about removing old kernels to free up space on /boot, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels [09:07] tnx oerheks [09:07] user217_: Find *something* that you can either delete from your root filesystem or move somewhere else, to free up just enough space to be able to safely run snap and "snap remove foo" where foo is a snap that you feel like you don't need. graphical snaps are likely to be larger than non-graphical ones, because of the dependencies needed to go along with them. [09:08] Jordan_U: It dont help. I do this [09:09] can i use ubuntu 20.04 theme on debian buster? [09:09] user217_: "du -sh /var/snap/*" will tell you how much space each snap is using, understanding that some snaps (like gnome-3-28-1804) are mostly there as dependencies for other snaps. [09:09] NetTerminalGene: we can only support ubuntu and their !flavours here [09:10] Jordan_U: look like that this is unhelpfull [09:10] user217_: Not a lot of space used by snaps? [09:11] Jordan_U: I delete now two snap-applications but still have the same problem [09:11] NetTerminalGene: it should definitely be possible (I believe the theme is called 'yaru'), but I guess you need to try a debian channel for help installing it instead [09:11] also I delete from root folder one more directory [09:12] grawity: please dont support users for other Os then ubuntu [09:12] user217_: And no change at all for "df -h"? Still getting filesystem full errors? [09:16] Jordan_U: after: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6rpwjdpbP/ before: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GyzPnvqKMx/ [09:16] user216_: Sorry, looks like snap data is actually stored in /var/lib/snapd/snaps/* . To see that usage "du -sh /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*". [09:16] grawity, thanks [09:18] user216_: Interestingly your used space went down 3 GB, even though your free space did not go up. [09:18] Jordan_U: as I said before I delete two snap app but it dont fix anything [09:18] hi folks, another happy day on ubuntu with nautilus quitting on me ... `nautilus -q -> Failed to register: Timeout was reached` [09:18] the output of command is : 7.3G /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ [09:18] user216_: bleachbit your system [09:19] lotuspsychje: what you mean? [09:19] !info bleachbit | user216_ [09:19] user216_: bleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-3 (eoan), package size 366 kB, installed size 2139 kB [09:20] user216_: That's about the 5% that is reserved for the root user, so I expect a little more and you'll stop getting out of space errors. (Right now you'll probably get out of space errors from creating small files as non root, but not from creating small files as root). [09:21] lotuspsychje: I cant install any new software becouse : E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. [09:21] user216_: What filesystem (ext4, btrfs, etc) are you using for your root? [09:22] /snap/intellij-idea-community/220 + 216 /// obs-studio/1042 + 1054 take a lot of space [09:23] and a home of 48G is pretty ... small [09:24] oerheks: as I see home is a lot of free space. Also I delete now obs, but it dont help [09:25] obs-sturdio [09:25] sure it does. [09:26] Jordan_U: how I can check about what filesystem I use? [09:27] hihi [09:28] I'm upgrading a server that has been very out of date, and I'm seeing this error: E: Repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu bionic InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'Oracle Java (JDK) 8 / 9 Installer PPA' to 'Oracle Java (JDK) 8 Installer PPA (DISCONTINUED)' [09:28] I can accept that change of course, but is there an underlying issue? [09:28] user216_: "mount | grep sdb1" , but if you don't know then it's probably ext4 as that's the default. [09:28] hi Jordan_U [09:29] faceface, that java ppa is depreciated, discontinued [09:29] https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java [09:30] in that text you find other oracle blobs. [09:30] oerheks: right, I found that page, but then wasn't sure what to do next... [09:30] use openjdk, if you can [09:31] ah, I think I followed a link under 'Old description' [09:31] Not sure.. this server uses SGE, which is where the java dep comes from I suspect... [09:32] to switch to openjdk, I should try to remove all packages from that ppa and see if there are dependencies? [09:33] if you upgraded, no package should have been installed? [09:33] sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:name/here [09:33] Jordan_U: /dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [09:33] oerheks: I said N, to continue iwht current situation [09:33] oerheks: will the --remove ppa:... remove all pakages from the ppa by default? [09:34] faceface: No, for that you need to use ppa-purge . [09:34] Jordan_U: thanks [09:34] faceface: You're welcome. [09:34] yes and no, it will reverse to not-ppa versions, if existing [09:37]