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pragmaticenigmafoo: it's possible that your Mac is seeing your CUPS service running. CUPS also broadcasts a beacon to enable printer sharing00:06
foopragmaticenigma: aha! Great idea, just disabled00:08
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laertus_how can i find out what version of glibc various versions of ubuntu have?01:06
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laertusfor instance, i'd like to know what version of glibc ubuntu 18.04 has01:07
laertus(but without having to do anything from within ubuntu.. as i need to know this before i start or even choose an ubuntu VM)01:07
oerhekslaunchpad?01:10
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/glibc/+packages01:10
laertustrying to open that link gives me a 40401:11
oerhekshit f5?01:12
oerhekshere it works01:12
MrTux889here it works too01:13
Bashing-omlaertus: https://launchpad.net/glibc/+packages opens here too :D01:13
RoseBusi wish my laptop had a larger hard drive... having dual boot sux bc windows takes so much01:17
RoseBusmaybe i should just get rid of windows all together on my laptop01:17
oerhekswe promise we do not tell anybody you wiped windows.01:18
lotuspsychjelol01:18
RoseBuslol01:18
MrTux889:-)01:18
RoseBusalso logitech doesn't support linux for this mouse i bought01:19
RoseBuswtf01:19
RoseBusyou would think a name like "logitech" would have linux drivers01:20
oerheksi have not seen any logitech that has no basic support.01:21
oerheksmaybe button 3-12 ..01:21
RoseBuswell the designed a "bluetooth" mouse01:22
RoseBusbut it wont pair01:22
RoseBusi have to use universal pair usb thing01:22
RoseBusso it "works"01:23
RoseBusbut not bluetooth...01:23
oerheksi use the bluez ppa on 18.04, for these connection issues01:23
RoseBusokay i will look into that01:25
RoseBusi spent an hour trying to get this damn thing to pair the other day with help on here and it kept failing01:26
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/~bluetooth/+archive/ubuntu/bluez01:26
oerheks5.5001:26
lotuspsychjeblueman to the rescue01:27
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AssociateXHello wonderful people. I installed Ubuntu 18.04 and I am now having no luck with getting photos off my phone onto my laptop. I'm using Dolphin and Gwenview, but neither display the device or show that either sees it. When I plug my phone in with USB my desktop notifies me but I'm unable to open the phone. Plasma with a brand spanking new install.01:39
AssociateXPreviously the connection worked.01:39
AssociateX...on the old install.01:39
AssociateXAlso, I meant Kubuntu 18.04.2, if that matters.01:40
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: update system first to 18.04.401:40
AssociateXlotuspsychje how do I check for that via CLI>01:41
AssociateX?*01:41
lotuspsychje!uptodate | AssociateX01:41
ubottuAssociateX: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.01:41
AssociateXlotuspsychje done. What is the method for proving that out?01:50
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: reboot and lsb_release -a && uname -a01:51
AssociateX18.04.401:52
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: did you enable dev mode on your phone?01:52
AssociateXThank you, btw.01:52
AssociateXlotuspsychje I did not change anything on the phone. I crashed my distro yesterday, my fault, but before that on 18.10 the phone connected no problem, or the desktop connected to the phone no problem, however that should be looked at.01:54
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: journalctl -f and plug in your phone to your system, and pastebin us the logs output please01:55
AssociateXlotuspsychje https://pastebin.com/X8Nk8dHJ02:00
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: did you swipe open your phone? did you try several usb ports?02:01
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: mtp-probe[10942]: bus: 1, device: 26 was not an MTP device is usually not a good error02:02
AssociateXlotuspsychje I did swipe open the phone. I also tried more than one USB port.02:03
AssociateXI am very certain that it is an MTP device.02:04
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: yeah i know you said it worked before, just saying the error isnt good02:04
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: im not familliar with plasma myself, but wasnt there an app that connects to phone on there?02:05
AssociateXYes02:05
AssociateXKDE connect02:05
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: ah yes, no dice there neither?02:05
AssociateXlotuspsychje that app is installed.02:06
AssociateXI will look at the KDE settings more and see if I missed something.02:07
AssociateXThere is a KDE wiki for their connect app02:10
AssociateXbbl02:10
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AssociateXlotuspsychje check out what lsusb gave me: Bus 001 Device 036: ID 1004:631e LG Electronics, Inc. G2/Optimus Android Phone [Camera/PTP mode]02:23
oerheksbus: 1, device: 26 was not an MTP device ..02:26
oerhekssounds like an issue with the phone, restart it perhaps?02:28
AssociateXoerheks I see that, although I thought that it was MTP, lsusb indicates PTP.02:28
AssociateXI got the phone through T-mobile and it says the phone is MTP https://www.t-mobile.com/support/devices/android/lg-g6/tech-specs-lg-g602:34
AssociateXI'm going to restart it.02:34
oerheksyes, and check the usb thingy steps again02:38
r15hi, Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-4.4.0-177-generic02:38
r15i am using 16.0402:38
r1516.04.6 LTS Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-4.4.0-177-generic02:39
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic xenial02:40
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.177.185 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB02:40
oerheksrun sudo apt-get update first?02:40
r15apt-get update is already done, i have current kernel as 4.4.0-17702:41
oerhekscurrent is 4.4.0.177.18502:41
r15for one of the dependency i need linux-image-extra-4.4.0-177-generic02:41
oerheks-extra-  ?02:42
oerheksthere is modules-extra..02:42
oerhekswhat package needs that?02:43
r15 https://ubuntu.bigbluebutton.org/bbb-install.sh is failing02:44
r15for one of the dependency i need linux-image-extra-4.4.0-177-generic02:44
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r15https://paste.debian.net/1139652/02:46
r15this is the /etc/apt/sources.list  > https://paste.debian.net/1139653/02:48
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r15resolved.. purged some pkgs.02:49
r15now it's working fine. Thanks.02:49
oerheksoh oke, have fuN!02:50
r15Thanks for the help oerheks02:50
r15Thanks #ubuntu02:50
AssociateXoerheks lsusb indicates PTP and journalctl -f bus: 1, device: 12 was not an MTP device02:55
oerheksso, that crash messed up.02:56
AssociateXoerheks I'm on a completely new install of kubuntu.02:58
AssociateXoerheks Now I'm getting suspicious, this says PTP as well: https://devicehunt.com/view/type/usb/vendor/1004/device/631E03:00
AscavasaionCould someone please tell me how I would check a USB flashdrive for errors?  Its on /dev/sdc    Would sudo fsck ntfs -l /dev/sdc work?03:01
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting03:03
oerheksseems down here, 50303:03
oerheksntfsfix /dev/sdc .. or probably sdc1 ..03:05
oerheksyou are trying to filecheck your phone?03:06
Jordan_UAscavasaion: What kind of errors are you looking to find? Are you trying to fix them also?03:17
Jordan_UAscavasaion: There is no proper fsck for ntfs filesystems on linux. If you really need to repair an ntfs filesystem, or even just check it thoroughly, you need to use Windows unfortunately.03:30
AscavasaionJordan_U: I am happy to lose any information on it.03:40
Jordan_UAscavasaion: What is your goal here? What happened to the drive / filesystem?03:41
AscavasaionWifetold me it has errors, I formated it and all seemed okay.  I did not do a thorough erasing format though.03:42
Jordan_UAscavasaion: Any idea what led her to say that it "has errors"? "Having errors" can mean a lot of different things.03:43
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realieshow can you enable the conntrack kernel module?04:16
pavlosrealies: sudo apt install conntrack04:22
realiespavlos, not seeing it in lsmod04:23
realiestrying to get telegraf's conntrack input working, but [inputs.conntrack] Error in plugin: Conntrack input failed to collect metrics. Is the conntrack kernel module loaded?04:23
realiesgrep '^CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=' /boot/config-"$(uname -r)" says CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=m04:24
pavlosrealies: I installed conntrack on a test machine, it is booting now ... I'll check lsmod04:25
oerheksconntrack -L # gives something?04:26
realiesconntrack v1.4.4 (conntrack-tools): Operation failed: sorry, you must be root or get CAP_NET_ADMIN capability to do this04:27
oerheksor run `conntrack -E' and generate traffic04:27
realiesconntrack v1.4.4 (conntrack-tools): Can't open handler04:27
realiesoh04:27
pavlosrealies: sudo modprobe ip_conntrack04:28
pavlosrealies: then lsmod | grep conn shows modules04:28
realiespavlos thank you so much, is that persistent or I need to modify the boot parms?04:29
snappyi'm using ubuntu 18.04; when i load the terminal app i get a bash prompt but it doesn't read my ~/.bash_profile - is there any reason for this?04:30
realiesmaybe this echo ip_conntrack >> /etc/modules04:32
pavlosrealies: there is also nf_conntrack module ... there should be a daemon, conntrackd but have not found it yet ...04:34
realieswhat would the daemon do?04:36
AssociateXSo, my phone is MTP capable. At this point I think that I'm having trouble with udev or some other permissions.04:36
realiespavlos, the conntrackd package installs the daemon04:40
realiesand seemingly loads the modules too04:40
pavlosrealies: found it sudo apt install conntrackd then a service is created04:41
realies:)04:41
AssociateXHow can I find out which /dev/ is my phone?04:59
AssociateXit's plugged in via usb04:59
exit70AssociateX: check the output of `dmesg`?05:01
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AssociateXexit70 usb 1-3: Product: LG-H872, so which one would that be in /dev?05:05
exit70hmm maybe the second top answer in https://superuser.com/questions/361885/how-do-i-figure-out-which-dev-is-a-usb-flash-drive05:08
rnat2AssociateX: tried jmptfs -l ?05:12
AssociateXexit70 I think udev is the problem, that's why I want to find the device in /dev  chmod it to 77705:23
AssociateXrnat2 installing now.05:23
AssociateXrnat2 https://pastebin.com/B6HfzSWK05:25
rnat2mkdir -p ~/mnt ; fusermount -u ~/mnt05:26
rnat2AssociateX:05:26
rnat2followed by jmtpfs ~/mnt05:27
eHAPPYive got ~1000 files i need to increase the name on by 1; eg 0212.jpeg needs to become 0213.jpeg could i do this in bash or is there an easier way05:27
AssociateXrnat2 fusermount: entry for /home/me/mnt not found in /etc/mtab05:30
AssociateX~/mnt does exist now, btw05:30
rnat2AssociateX: cat /etc/fuse.conf05:31
rnat2output05:31
AssociateXrnat2 there are a few lines, but every line is commented out05:32
rnat2uncomment #user_allow_other05:33
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AssociateXhttps://pastebin.com/xsfsrSAF05:33
rnat2AssociateX: uncomment #user_allow_other05:34
rnat2 then fusermount -u ~/mnt05:34
AssociateXnew install, installing vim right now.05:34
AssociateXrnat2 I uncommented that line, :wq vim, verified with cat, ran fusermount -u ~/mnt gives fusermount: entry for /home/me/mnt not found in /etc/mtab05:38
rnat2AssociateX: try sudo fusermount -u ~/mnt05:39
AssociateXDo I need to restart fuse? or what ever05:39
AssociateXokay05:39
AssociateXfusermount: failed to unmount /home/me/mnt: Invalid argument05:40
rnat2umount -f ~/mnt05:41
rnat2and try it all over from start05:41
AssociateXrnat2 umount: /home/me/mnt: not mounted.05:41
AssociateXThat was with sudo05:41
AssociateXalso, No mtp devices found.05:43
AssociateXHold up, I did a swipe and replugged in the phone. Let get a pastebin for you rnat205:45
AssociateXhttps://pastebin.com/4zN76ExB05:45
rnat2is ls -l ~/mnt empty?05:46
AssociateXyes05:47
rnat2did u get a prompt "allow your device blah blah..." on your cellphone when u ran jmptfs ~/mnt05:48
rnat2did u tap Allow?05:49
AssociateXI will have to check agian05:49
rnat2so basically, when you run that command on your ubuntu machine, you will get a prompt seeking permission on your cellphone05:50
rnat2Does your cell phone have "USB debugging ON"? in Developer options?05:51
AssociateXI never got that, but I know what you're talking about. I've seen that plugging into other computers with another phone. I don't remember doing that before with this phone, but for sure I never had to do it on a regular basis and the phone used to connect just fine up until yesterday when I recked my install, which is why I have a fresh install05:53
AssociateXtoday and have so many problems. Excuse that run on sentence.05:53
Citizen-Se7enWhat's the Ubuntu channel for unreleased (beta) versions of Ubuntu, like 20.04?05:53
AssociateXI'm looking for USB debugging now.05:55
ansimitaCitizen-Se7en: there is #ubuntu-devel for development discussion but not support of 20.0405:55
Citizen-Se7enAlso, what the end date for LTS support for 18.04?05:55
Citizen-Se7enansimita: thanks05:56
ansimitaCitizen-Se7en: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases05:56
Citizen-Se7enansimita: thanks again.05:57
rnat2AssociateX: I rely on jmptfs to get connected to a phone every time, it works reliably.. had a disappointing experience with Huawei phone once ...here, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/466841/how-to-mount-usb-device-using-jmtpfs-on-linux-debian-9 I looked up a sequence of steps that i would have recommended for you anyway...05:57
rnat2I will be afk for a while05:58
AssociateXrnat2 I looked and did not find System or Developer options. I will read that link. Thank you very much.05:59
JoeLlamadownloaded latest ubuntu...  where do I find the CRC and how do I verify I have a clean copy?06:00
ansimitaJoeLlama: See the hash checksums at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/19.10/release/06:02
JoeLlamathanks ansimita06:02
JoeLlamashould I have downloaded the latest version even though the support period is a short time?06:04
undercovertux@JoeLlama a complete manual is here06:04
undercovertuxhttps://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview06:04
JoeLlamathanks undercovertux06:04
undercovertuxnp and you should set on the LTS. It's in general more stable and has no bleeding edges06:05
JoeLlamaok06:05
stiltrumpelskinhello06:07
stiltrumpelskindoes anybody here have samba installed06:08
stiltrumpelskinwhen i go to the "Other Locations" of the file browser it shows my computer twice06:11
ansimitaCitizen-Se7en: Oh, check out #ubuntu+106:11
Citizen-Se7enansimita: thanks for the update06:12
stiltrumpelskinand it has "(File Sharing)" after the name06:12
undercovertux<stiltrumpelskin> can you provide a screenshot?06:12
stiltrumpelskinsure06:13
stiltrumpelskinhow do i send the picture06:13
undercovertuxjust upload on any site and post the link here pls06:13
undercovertuxbut it's probably your drive shown as emulated samba filesystem (NTFS)06:13
stiltrumpelskinhttps://ibb.co/5MwL0Dm06:15
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stiltrumpelskinits not a mounted share06:16
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stiltrumpelskinits the computer listed twice06:16
stiltrumpelskini find that when i stop the nmbd service only one shows up06:16
stiltrumpelskinwhen i stop smbd and keep nmbd it still shows06:17
stiltrumpelskinbut there is an error when trying to access it06:17
undercovertuxI see, that's strange06:18
undercovertuxcan you post your /etc/fstab06:18
undercovertuxit's where all the mounting process is automatized06:19
stiltrumpelskin# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass># / was on /dev/sda7 during installationUUID=481ce8c0-788e-4141-9890-984201fb9aca /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1# /boot/efi was on /dev/sda1 during installationUUID=10F6-887D  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1/swapfile06:19
stiltrumpelskinnone            swap    sw              0       006:19
stiltrumpelskinsorry06:19
stiltrumpelskinthat might be hard to read06:19
stiltrumpelskinbut im not mounting any shares06:19
undercovertuxI see, looks like a clean table to me.06:20
stiltrumpelskinwhat im talking about is browsing the equivalent of network neighborhood in windows06:20
stiltrumpelskinthe older versions of samba dont seem to have this problem06:20
undercovertuxgotcha and you got two shares of each instead of one. must be something in the samba config then probably06:20
stiltrumpelskinyea but i dont know whats going on06:21
stiltrumpelskinthere seems to be something happening between nmbd and smbd daemons06:21
undercovertuxprobably better purge it and make a new clean setup... ;-)06:21
stiltrumpelskini tried that already06:22
stiltrumpelskini purged samba and samba-common06:22
stiltrumpelskinand installed again06:22
stiltrumpelskinsame thing06:23
AssociateXI learn something new everyday. I did a lsusb -v and it shows an incredible amount of info. It also shows that my phone is capable of both MTP and PTP.06:23
stiltrumpelskini also installed on debian 10 computer06:23
stiltrumpelskinsame thing happened06:23
stiltrumpelskinthat's eniac in the picture06:23
stiltrumpelskinthe one i'm on now is littlearistotle06:23
undercovertuxmaybe a new "feature", lol06:24
stiltrumpelskinhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1166653/nas-appearing-twice-in-other-locations06:25
stiltrumpelskinhe has the same problem06:25
undercovertuxI'm also on Google meanwhile... found a german guy with similar problem. he had shown to much shares connected with the wrong homefolder for the samba user06:26
undercovertuxbut you had the similar with the same package on two different machines / operating systems afai understood.06:27
stiltrumpelskindo you know how the file browsing program generates the list of computers in "other locations"06:27
stiltrumpelskinbecause it works even when samba is not installed06:27
stiltrumpelskinyes, thats right06:28
stiltrumpelskini tried it on ubuntu and debian06:28
stiltrumpelskinand the debian was a fresh install06:29
undercovertuxno06:31
undercovertuxI don't know where this list is generated06:31
stiltrumpelskini tried to figure that out06:31
stiltrumpelskinbut i need some direction lol06:31
undercovertuxwell, your personal folders are configured in nautilus in the file ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs06:33
undercovertuxbut that probably won't help you ;)06:33
stiltrumpelskinalso, if i view the computers from windows, it doesnt have this problem06:33
stiltrumpelskinin the network neighborhood, that is06:33
stiltrumpelskinno, i need to get into the guts of the nautilus program i think06:33
stiltrumpelskinbut it might be more effort than i care to exert for this annoyance lol06:34
undercovertuxso your samba network seems to be set up in the right way. so it's just a listing problem of nautilus, could be possible06:34
undercovertuxI hate that samba / 'windows environment' shit in my system. always leads to problems and ugly errors like this.06:34
stiltrumpelskinyes, when both nmbd and smbd are running i have the problem06:35
stiltrumpelskinwhen nmbd is turned off, only one computer shows06:35
stiltrumpelskinbut docs say nmbd is necessary for proper function of smbd daemon06:35
stiltrumpelskinalthough i didnt experience any error when i tried it06:35
stiltrumpelskinmaybe ill search google again in a few months06:37
stiltrumpelskinshould be fixed by then haha06:37
undercovertuxWhich windows versions you are using? 8 and older?06:38
stiltrumpelskinit was windows xp that i looked in06:39
undercovertuxok I needed to read a little. I found a german site but I'll try to explain06:40
stiltrumpelskinexcellent06:40
undercovertuxyour samba will resolve names over DNS. older windows versions relied on some functions of nmbd, windows versions after XP don't need it at all06:40
undercovertuxso this is what probably happens: your ubuntu and debian resolves names over DNS _and_ over nmbd and you'll get two instances of each06:41
stiltrumpelskininteresting06:41
undercovertuxaccording to that site you don't need nmbd for windows computers in the network which got windows 7+06:41
stiltrumpelskinbut i need it for the computers to be visible to xp?06:41
undercovertuxand for a simple print / fileserver over samba you don't need nmbd and winbindd06:42
undercovertuxyes, probably06:42
stiltrumpelskinthen the question is why it is working properly with older samba versions06:42
stiltrumpelskinanother thing i noticed is if i stop nmbd and smbd06:43
stiltrumpelskinthen start smbd and then nmbd06:43
stiltrumpelskinit appears ok for a while (only listed once)06:43
stiltrumpelskinthen after some time passes, it goes back to listing twice06:43
stiltrumpelskinbut i dont know what triggers it exactly06:43
undercovertuxthat's DNS, it takes some time to set up06:43
stiltrumpelskini dont think so, because the changes in the list are reflected almost instantly06:44
stiltrumpelskinfor example if i stop both daemons06:44
stiltrumpelskinthe listing goes away in both computers (debian and ubuntu) right away06:44
stiltrumpelskinthen if i start nmbd first06:45
stiltrumpelskinand then start smbd, the problem arises06:45
stiltrumpelskinif i start them in reverse, there is no problem06:45
undercovertuxok, strange06:45
undercovertuxbut that's all I can help, been a while when I set up smb06:46
stiltrumpelskinthanks for your efforts, i appreciate it06:46
undercovertuxnp mate06:46
AssociateXF-word yeah!!!!! My phone problem was a udev problem. I have everything working now.07:02
lotuspsychjeAssociateX: and you fixed how?07:05
AssociateXThere were things that lead me to believe it was permissions, but here is how I did the repair: https://www.debugpoint.com/2016/03/how-to-access-android-devices-internal-storage-and-sd-card-in-ubuntu-linux-mint-using-media-transfer-protocol-mtp/07:06
AssociateXlotuspsychje I wrote a udev rule.07:07
lotuspsychjehmm weird07:07
lotuspsychjephone connection works out of the box here07:07
AssociateXlotuspsychje lsusb -v gave info about the phone being capable of both MTP and PTP.07:08
AssociateXT-mobile said the phone was MTP07:08
AssociateXWell, now I can go to sleep for the night.07:09
AssociateXlotuspsychje I appreciate your help. It was all sane stuff. Also, the mtp-* tools would work part way on being plugged in fresh then fail. They did everything but succeed. I'm tired, but it looked like a strong case for permissions.07:11
AssociateXhave a good night.07:11
AssociateXWhat is a cli for who space is used, I thought it was du but what I saw before only gave like 8-9 lines07:22
AssociateXs/who/what07:22
lotuspsychjedh -f ?07:22
lotuspsychjedf -h i mean07:23
AssociateXlotuspsychje that's it. I'm just really friggin tried, couldn't remember it. thank you.07:24
rajdoes ubuntu not come with pip for python3?07:44
rajI was expecting to be able to do pip307:44
oerheks!info python3-pip07:44
ubottupython3-pip (source: python-pip): Python package installer. In component universe, is optional. Version 18.1-5 (eoan), package size 132 kB, installed size 690 kB07:44
rajwhy is python2's pip not optional then?07:47
oerheksthat is just called python-pip07:48
rajright, which works out of the box as just `pip`07:48
oerheksno, there is no pip installed standarde07:48
oerheksyeah, and pip in 20.04 leads to pip3, we had this conversation before?07:49
rajpossibly07:50
rajoh looks like you're right, I did manually install python-pip07:50
rajapril 23rd, awesome, looking forward to it07:51
lotuspsychje!party07:51
ubottuPlease remember that our support channels are for technical support and not general chat. To countdown to !focal release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party. Thank you! :)07:51
rajlol, ok see you guys there, fun police has arrived07:52
lotuspsychjeraj: nono that wasnt meant to scare you away, just join the party07:53
raj=)07:53
rajjust a scary invite lol07:55
lotuspsychjedont shoot the messenger, shoot the factoid :p07:55
rajwhat should we do with the messenger then?07:57
rajgotta send a message somehow07:58
raj!apt08:02
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)08:02
raj!apt-get08:02
rajshould we not use apt-get anymore? I still use it out of habit08:02
oerheksapt is superiour over apt-get08:03
rajk, thank you08:07
ducasseraj: apt is intended for interactive use, you should still use apt-get in scripts08:10
rajgotcha08:10
rajI thought apt was supposed to have a progress bar, I didn't get one when installing python3-pip08:10
ReventlovHey.08:12
ReventlovI want an ubuntu chroot on a debian buster, without being root. I tried fakechroot with debootstrap but the different libc makes debootstrap crash (debian buster inside debian buster has no problem)08:13
oerheksinteresting08:13
ReventlovThe host libc is ldd (Debian GLIBC 2.28-10) 2.28 (I assume it's the different libc version, but I just get a segfault anyway)08:14
Reventlov( https://0x0.st/iS_c.txt )08:15
Reventlovwell, anyway, if someone has an idea on how to get a working ubuntu tree in another linux system (without being root), let me know08:47
neurehi09:02
neureI am looking for software to arrange pictures to folders09:02
neureI tired gThumb and it is nice except I am not able to select multiple images09:03
neureso I need to drag and drop every picture one by one which is not going to work for me09:03
oerheksgthumb > hold shift while selecting pics09:08
oerheksno, ctrl + select09:09
lotuspsychjemorning MonkeyDust09:14
mase-techhi what is the difference between apt and apt-get09:14
lotuspsychje!discuss | mase-tech09:15
ubottumase-tech: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!09:15
oerheksnice detailed .. https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/09:16
oerheksall the benefits of aptitude are gone, afaik09:17
may1234what is the development process for ubuntu DVD ISOs? links?09:18
oerheksare you looking for 20.04 beta?09:19
oerheks!ubuntu+109:19
ubottuFocal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+109:19
rajor wait 12 days and get support in here09:20
may1234I mean the process generally, not for a specific version09:20
elementxlterraif i were to build a package from source, should i uninstall the previous version first?09:25
neureoerheks, holding control does nothing09:25
neureoerheks, still single selects09:25
neuresame with shift09:25
oerheksneure, ctrl here works09:25
neurewhich version of gThumb?09:26
neureI have Ubuntu 19.10 / gThumb 3.8.009:26
oerheksinteresting, 18.04 here with 3.9.109:27
neureI'll try to remove gthumb and build from git sourec09:29
neureokay so now I have 3.9.109:35
neureand I realize what is wrong09:35
neureUI is in two different modes when there is one image previewed or not09:35
neureIf there is image previewed, you still get to see other thumbs, but you won't be able to multiple select from that09:35
neureI need to press ESC to exit image preview and _then_ I can multiselect images09:36
neurea bit annoying but I guess I can live with that09:36
MonkeyDusthashtag firstworldproblem09:37
neurewell it is annoying because in order to select multiple images already when I click first image it goes to preview which i need to immediately exit09:39
neureOo there is setting double click to open09:42
neurethat fixes it09:42
neureweirdo default09:42
clarkkUsing aptitude, is it advisable to allow it to take these steps to resolve dependencies?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/u2eac4ob8nflpvv/Selection_285.png?dl=010:26
alterjsivecan anyone help me get dual screen working with the the AMD Ryzen™ 9 4900HS integrated vesa graphics gpu10:32
clarkkfollowing on from my question above, apt-get check doesn't show any problems.  So, which is correct, aptitude, or apt-get?10:39
alterjsivecan anyone help me get dual screen working with the the AMD Ryzen™ 9 4900HS integrated vesa graphics gpu ?10:58
alterjsiveoh sorry for the repeat10:58
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alterjsiveis there a "rugged" distro with linux kernel 5.5? The AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile Series "Renoir" Graphics are no longer experimental With Linux 5.5. PS my laptop also has a nvidia RTX 2060 max-q on board. 11:11
viktor_i put all the files from a directory in a file and delete the ones i want to keep. how do i use rm to delete the files left in the list?11:21
damo22for f in $(cat filecontainingdeletelist) ; do echo $f ; done11:23
damo22if that spits out the list of files you want to delete, run the same command but switch echo with rm11:23
EriC^^viktor_: while IFS='' read -r $file; do rm "$file"; done < mylist11:24
damo22be careful with stuff like rm11:25
EriC^^the for loop has some faults intrinsicly if you use it, i must add11:25
damo22yeh, it assumes there are no spaces in your filenames11:26
viktor_there's also whitespaces in the filenames...11:27
damo22ok dont use mine then11:27
EriC^^damo22: yup, also there's other stuff, if you're interested they're here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26479562/what-does-ifs-do-in-this-bash-loop-cat-file-while-ifs-read-r-line-do/2648021011:28
viktor_EriC^^: i have to substitute $file or "mylist"?11:32
barnexIf I get "rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred" can I safely assume it's just the permissions, not files?11:39
EriC^^viktor_: mylist11:42
viktor_EriC^^: i get "rm: cannot remove '': No such file or directory"11:55
EriC^^viktor_: sounds like the list has an empty line or something12:00
nomad_frHi, I've trouble with my laptop when It come to sleep, I sometimes at wake up loose the pad and can't move the mouse ny more, but if I 'switch user' or logout it came again12:01
viktor_EriC^^: maybe i'll try to write a small pyhton program to sift through large directories. thanks anyway12:01
nomad_frI think a service stop or hang but I don;t know which one and don't know how to find it12:02
BluesKajHiyas all12:03
MarkB2Logged in this morning, ran sudo apt update and apt advises there are two packages waiting: libgcc1 and libgcc1:i386 .12:05
MarkB2Running sudo apt upgrade then produced the message "packages have been held back".12:05
MarkB2A little more digging produced a conflict that because the installed versions are co-dependent, neither can be updated because it would remove a package dependent on the other package.12:06
MarkB2Well, this is a 64-bit system and so maybe I'll get away with it: using apt-get remove, I removed libgcc1:i386  then reran sudo apt-get update  followed by  sudo apt-get upgrade.12:08
MarkB2That fix the problem for libgcc1 64-bit12:09
MarkB2...fixed..12:09
MarkB2Will  sudo apt-get install libgcc1:i386  (a) reinstall libgcc1:i386 and (b) install the same co-dependency?12:10
MarkB2On the "advice" of someone using an /msg along the lines of: "Well, BUDDY, why don't YOU try it and let us know what happened."   so I did.  apt-get indicated it would uninstall the 64-bit library and install the i386 version and did I want to continue.12:17
MarkB2No, guess I didn't.12:18
alterjsiveis there anyone here who has successfully upgraded to kernel +5.5?12:23
vlmis it possible to remove the core snaps in 18.04?  Getting ´cannot remove "core": snap "core" is not removable: snap is used by the model´,also tried to remove revisions which also doesnt work,i got no other snaps running12:27
vlmgot it working had to purge the snapd package instead of remove...12:29
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SirMcLouisHey! I have a question about ubuntu 20, is this the correct place?13:22
SirMcLouis20.0413:22
lotuspsychjeSirMcLouis: join #ubuntu+1 please13:22
SirMcLouislotuspsychje thanks!13:23
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje13:33
lotuspsychjehey MonkeyDust ; )13:33
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MarkB2I've been searching for a font previewer for Ubuntu 18.04.  Every link I've tried has turned out dead.  Suggestions on a font previewer would be appreciated.  Thank you.14:26
ducasse!info font-manager | MarkB214:27
ubottuMarkB2: font-manager (source: font-manager): font management application for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-1.1 (eoan), package size 283 kB, installed size 1176 kB14:27
lotuspsychje!info fontmatrix | MarkB2 also14:27
ubottuMarkB2 also: Package fontmatrix does not exist in eoan14:27
lotuspsychjeoh, 20.04 only sorry ^14:28
MarkB2I tried that installing font-manager... and it just locked up.  30 minutes waiting for it to do something and zilch.14:28
MarkB2And, no, I'm not running on an 8088 processor.  :-)14:29
sixwheeledbeast!info gnome-font-viewer14:29
ubottugnome-font-viewer (source: gnome-font-viewer): font viewer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.34.0-1 (eoan), package size 50 kB, installed size 304 kB14:29
MarkB2AHA!'14:30
pavlushkaapt-cacher-ng is returning : Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/cnf/Commands-amd64  403  Forbidden file type or location, what type of file pattern is likely to be missing?14:30
kokoye2007!info localechooser14:31
ubottuPackage localechooser does not exist in eoan14:31
MarkB2sixwheeledbeast: Thank you.  That went in.  Happily too.  Nice.14:31
lotuspsychjepavlushka: #ubuntu+1 please14:31
kokoye2007hello everyone14:31
sixwheeledbeastMarkB2: np it used to be a default packages many moons ago IIRC14:31
barnexis help.ubuntu.com in surge protection for everybody? I haven't done any requests14:31
kokoye2007Ubuntu focal have region base localechooser has error14:32
barnexI mean, I did one and I'm already surge locked out14:32
sixwheeledbeastbarnex: the wiki was 15 minutes ago14:32
MarkB2sixwheeledbeast: Now what I need is a somewhat flowery font.  For a condolences card.14:32
sixwheeledbeastfont's are a whole other issue...14:36
MarkB2I'm quickly finding that out.  Geeze.  Looks like there are a few hundred thousand of them.14:37
ioriaMarkB2, https://www.1001fonts.com/flower-fonts.html    some of this are good14:45
ioria*these14:45
MarkB2Ahhh... nice.  Missed that one.  Looking through them now.  Thank you.14:46
ioriaMarkB2, download one, unzip with nautilus, double click on the .ttf (it will open with font-viewer), click on install; open writer , selects fonts, done14:46
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sixwheeledbeastthen there is the whole licensing issues, bit like the music industry14:54
MarkB2Yes.  It's hard for me to use a font where the license says, "Free... but donations appreciated."  For a one-shot use.. I'm tempted to write out my thoughts and scan 'em in.14:58
MarkB2<ding>14:58
MarkB2And I think I'll do just that.  :-)14:59
ioriaMarkB2,  'Lime Glory Caps (e.g.) may be downloaded and used free of charge for both personal and commercial use, as long as the usage is not racist or illegal'   ; no mention of donations15:19
lalitmeeWhy I am facing a problem in Monaco Font only. When I zoom in or zoom out, Monaco font doesn't look like it is rendering properly in Ubuntu 18.04.15:32
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lalitmeeThis is not rendered properly https://i.imgur.com/Wxu0Tng.png15:34
lalitmeeWhereas this is correct https://i.imgur.com/f6Rqk5k.png15:35
i7ch@lotuspsychje, FYI, i mnanges to get the scanner workin ONLY by installing hplip in GUI mode15:36
i7chapparently you also need a hplip plugin, which can only by installed via GUI15:36
i7ch*managed15:37
clarkk Using aptitude, is it advisable to allow it to take these steps to resolve dependencies?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/u2eac4ob8nflpvv/Selection_285.png?dl=0   apt-get check doesn't show any problems.  So, which is correct, aptitude, or apt-get?15:38
tomreyn!aptitude15:40
ubottuLike apt and apt-get, aptitude is a terminal frontend for Ubuntu's package management system. Unlike the others, it is not recommended in Ubuntu because its behavior differs significantly from other Ubuntu package management tools and can cause issues.15:40
oerhekstry with apt only? apt is superiour over apt-get.15:41
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tomreyndoes "sudo apt update" or simulating the default resolution via "sudo apt full-upgrade -syV" hint on any issues?15:43
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TheWildhello16:13
TheWildcould someone tell me what happened here and how to fix it? https://kopy.io/Z9FUY16:13
TheWild(at the beginning: attempt to compile BPG encoder)16:13
tomreynyou're mixing packages from different sources which is probably the root cause of these issues. "sudo apt update; apt policy" will tell you more about how your apt sources is configured.16:18
ioriaTheWild, i suppose it's another libpulse-dev issue16:19
ioriaTheWild, for libsdl-image1.2-dev, at least16:21
TheWildioria: nope, didn't work. Now I'm curious what I broke by removing libpulse-dev.16:22
TheWildI suppose it's deb.sury.org, but I added it only for PHP16:22
tomreynthat's not how apt repositories work, though. you add a repository, you get all the packages it provides as potential installation candidates.16:24
ioriaTheWild,  i'd start purging those deb.sury.org~xenial+116:25
TheWildioria: you mean, remove PHP or remove the repository from sources?16:25
TheWildtomreyn: https://kopy.io/skA6W16:26
database2ubuntu stuck in a loop "https://drive.google.com/open?id=13C8RpVgINeObhgiRllV_wfk2YQ7QPbJK"16:26
database2before watching the video please mute it16:27
ioriaTheWild, dpkg -l | grep libjbig016:27
TheWildii  libjbig0:amd64                                2.1-3.1+deb.sury.org~xenial+1                       amd64        JBIGkit libraries16:28
TheWildand surprisingly apt won't let me even remove it16:28
tomreynTheWild: "deb.sury.org~xenial+1" suggests this system still has packages installed which used to come from an apt repository you (according to the output you just posted) no longer have active. and that repository was for ubuntu xenial (16.04) apparently, not for ubuntu bionic (18.04) which the majority of this system seems to be.16:29
ioriaTheWild, use ppa-purge16:29
tomreynthe sury ppa is not enabled though16:29
TheWildmeh, "sudo apt install ppa-purge"16:29
TheWildtools already there can't handle it?16:29
tomreynso either re-enable the sury repository before using ppa-purge or use apt-forktracer16:30
TheWildhow reenable? I don't think it was disabled.16:30
database2anyone please help out16:31
tomreyndatabase2: start by describing your problem, textually16:31
tomreynTheWild: https://kopy.io/skA6W suggests the sury PPA is not enabled.16:31
TheWildand it will revert PHP to older version probably :/16:31
database2tomreyn: here is the video "https://drive.google.com/open?id=13C8RpVgINeObhgiRllV_wfk2YQ7QPbJK"16:32
pavlosdatabase2: 40416:32
database2ohh16:32
Mechanismusconstantly getting surge protection from help.ubuntu.com16:34
TheWildtomreyn: this is ondrej/php16:35
TheWildtomreyn: I'm not really happy about downgrading PHP. Should I re-add ondrej/php after it is removed?16:35
database2tomreyn: ubuntu get trap into loop just before login screen and the big problem is even "ctrL+alt+f3" won't open16:35
database2tomreyn: no login screen no tty16:37
database2please help me16:37
ioriadatabase2, can you boot in recovery mode ?16:38
database2i can boot in recovery mode16:39
ioriadatabase2, enable networking and drop to root shell16:39
database2okay give me a minute16:40
tomreynMechanismus: please report a problem as discusse don the topic of #canonical-sysadmin ("RT") providing the URL you tried to access and the error message you received.16:42
tomreynTheWild: ah right, sorry i missed the PPA16:42
tomreynTheWild: i doubt the packages in the 'bionic' PPA are named *-xenial-* though so what you have is likely a leftover from before you upgraded. as apt-foktracer would tell you if you used it.16:43
database228Ioria: after that16:43
TheWildah s**t, I see16:45
ioriadatabase228, check the disk space : df -h16:45
TheWildthe file is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ondrej-ubuntu-php-xenial.list16:45
TheWildbut inside is:16:45
TheWild# deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php/ubuntu bionic main16:45
iorialooks likedisabled16:45
TheWildhttps://kopy.io/dGNp416:52
database228ioria: executed df -h16:52
ioriadatabase228, what about root  ?  '/'16:53
database228ioria: 85% used16:54
database228Out of 119gib16:55
TheWildcan't install libsdl-image1.2-dev either16:55
database228ioria: what you think ? What is the problem16:56
ioriadatabase228, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | cat -n16:56
ioriadatabase228, report just the number16:56
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database228Their are 9 different images16:57
ioriadatabase228,  apt autoremove --purge16:57
database2284.15.0-29.3216:58
database228-65.7416:58
database22866.7516:58
ioriadatabase228,  i got it16:58
database228okay16:58
ioriadatabase228,  apt autoremove --purge16:59
database228ioria: Did it what next17:00
database2280 up 0 newly 0 to remove17:00
ioriadatabase228, again , dpkg -l | grep linux-image | cat -n17:01
database228Ioria: no change still the same output17:02
ioriadatabase228, you nned to remove manully some images ; what's your current kernel ? uname -r17:02
database228ioria: 4.15.0-96-generic17:03
ioriadatabase228, apt purge linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic17:04
tomreynTheWild: so, i'm not sure the characteristics of the problem you're facing have become obvious, yet, so i'll try to explain: https://kopy.io/Z9FUY refers to a package libjbig0 at version 2.1-3.1+deb.sury.org~xenial+1 which is (or was, at the time) installed on this (apparently) Ubuntu 18.04 "bionic" (not "xenial") system. https://kopy.io/skA6W states that you have (or had, at the time) the "http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php/ubuntu bionic/main17:04
tomreynamd64 Packages" APT repository configured, a third party APT repository for "bionic", so ubuntu 18.04. this suggests that the libjbig0 package at version 2.1-3.1+deb.sury.org~xenial+1 is actually a leftover from when you were using the *xenial* PPA, and that this package should not be installe don a "bionic" system in the first place. using ppa-purge against the "bionic" PPA will most lilely not remove this leftover package, though.17:04
database228ioria: did it what next17:06
TheWildokay, so... let's remove libjbig0?17:06
database228And also ran dpkg - l ... command and now only 8 entries17:06
ioriadatabase228, can you paste the output ?   dpkg -l | grep linux-image  | nc termbin.com 999917:07
ioriaTheWild, i think that pkg is important for other programs,  i suggest to not remove it17:09
TheWildioria: no worries, it doesn't work as well: https://kopy.io/b8HBi17:09
database228ioria: https://kopy.io/zwx017:10
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ioriadatabase228, i see nothing17:11
ioriadatabase228,   dpkg -l | grep linux-image  | nc termbin.com 999917:12
tomreynTheWild: i mentioned apt-forktracer as a way forward twice so far, now three times. this should be sufficient for now, i think. if you prefer to use software already installed, ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported can help with this as well.17:12
database228ioria: sorry https://termbin.com/zwx017:12
ioriadatabase228,  sudo apt purge linux-image-4.15.0-76-generic17:13
tomreynTheWild: if you'd like to read up more on this: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages17:13
database228ioria: above link is correct you can see see17:13
ioriadatabase228,  sudo apt purge linux-image-4.15.0-76-generic17:13
database228Done17:13
database228ioria: it's downloading17:14
ioriadatabase228,  downloading what ?17:14
database228ioria : Linux image .7617:16
TheWildtomreyn: I want to simply fix something that shouldn't get broken in the first place (thanks apt for wasting my time). And I'd like to do it without involving myself into reading long manuals and using obscure software.17:17
ioriadatabase228, we are removing 76, not installing it17:17
ioriadatabase228, is it done ?17:17
database228ioria: I ran command again but I think it is not removed17:18
pavlosit might be easier to 1) sudo apt install byobu and then 2) sudo purge-old-kernels --keep 317:18
ioriadatabase228,   dpkg -l | grep linux-image  | nc termbin.com 999917:18
database228Sorry17:18
TheWildnice. apt-forktracer works without arguments.17:18
TheWildthis is the output: https://kopy.io/XPQg417:19
database228https://termbin.com/1dk4y17:19
ioriadatabase228,   ok,    sudo apt purge linux-image-4.15.0-{65,66,70,72}-generic17:20
database228ioria: https://termbin.com/wao8317:22
database228ioria: what next17:23
ioriadatabase228,  apt autoremove --purge17:23
database228ioria: done17:24
ioriadatabase228,  df -h | nc termbin.com 999917:25
database228https://termbin.com/ik1b17:26
database228ioria: done17:26
ioriadatabase228,  apt update && apt full-upgrade17:27
database228ioria: done17:28
ioriadatabase228,  reboot17:29
lotuspsychjei7ch: ah, thats what i expected from that bug, was it hplip-gui you installed?17:29
database228ioria: done17:29
ioriadatabase228,  what 's  your graphic card and driver ?17:30
database228Nvidia17:30
database228Nvidia 37517:30
ioriadatabase228,  still stuck ?17:30
database228Booting...17:31
database228ioria: I guess yes17:32
ioriadatabase228,  so, boot with 'nomodeset'17:32
database228ioria: try is open but. No graphic17:33
ioriadatabase228,  what ?17:34
database228Nothing let me boot with nomodeset17:34
ioriadatabase228,  you know how to set it ?17:35
database228ioria: yes thanks17:36
ioriaok17:37
TheWildtomreyn: can you help me? I don't know how to read this babble: https://kopy.io/XPQg417:38
database228ioria: with nomodeset no login screen17:38
ioriadatabase228, but the system boots ? can you open a console ?17:39
database228Yes17:40
ioriadatabase228,   lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 999917:40
tomreynTheWild: is this what you found inside a fortune cookie?17:41
TheWildthis is output of apt-forktracer17:41
tomreynoh, that's good to know!17:41
database228ioria: https://termbin.com/70uv17:42
tomreynTheWild: i.e.: to get help here, please always provide both the command (with options) you ran, the environment (e.g. ubuntu version + architecture etc, we know this already here) as well as the output of the command.17:43
ioriadatabase228,   cat /proc/cmdline17:43
IntelCoreEriC^ around?17:43
TheWildlsb_release -a: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS17:44
TheWilduname -a: Linux latitude-e6540 4.15.0-96-generic #97-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 1 03:25:46 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:44
TheWildapt-forktracer -v: https://kopy.io/XPQg417:44
IntelCoreHe help me, pls .. I will wait.17:45
database228ioria: https://termbin.com/jtqu17:45
ioriaTheWild, you still have deb.sury.org~xenial+1 packages installed17:46
tomreynTheWild: so apt-forktracer lists package versions which are installed but can't be matched against an apt repository you have configured (i call those "foreign package versions", or "foreign packages"). those packages should usually be removed or replaced by package versions (or other packages) which you have an apt repository configured for. in some cases all you want to do is configure an (usually 3rd party) apt repository which provides these17:46
tomreynpackages and an upgrade path for them.17:46
ioriadatabase228,   you're booting with nomodeset and nvidia is loaded17:47
database228ioria: output of cat /porc/cmdline17:47
database228https://termbin.com/70uv17:47
tomreynTheWild: regarding "I want to simply fix something that shouldn't get broken in the first place (thanks apt for wasting my time)" - this problem was not introduced by apt, but by someone managing this system.17:48
TheWild:/17:48
database228ioria: what nect17:48
ioriadatabase228,   sudo systemctl restart gdm317:48
TheWildI supposed something got upgraded that can't be downgraded now17:49
TheWilds/supposed/suppose/17:49
database228ioria: done17:49
ioriadatabase228,  and ?17:49
database228ioria: screen something come and go with the speed of light almost 5 or 6 times17:51
TheWildtomreyn: different question: what will be easier: fixing this mess or reinstalling Ubuntu?17:51
ioriadatabase228,  sudo nano /etc/gdm3/custom.conf     and remove the '#' in front of WaylandEnable=false17:52
tomreynTheWild: i don't know you well enough to answer this. for me, fixing it should be a quick process and i'd prefer it (but then i'd try not to run into this situation in the first place by purging PPAs before release upgrading).17:53
database228ioria: done17:54
ioriadatabase228,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 999917:55
tomreynTheWild: here's how i would go about this: go over the list of packages reported by apt-forktracer. see whether there are packages listed which sound like they provide functionality i do not want to loose. for those packages, see if i have this functionality already covered by other packages which are also installed, or packages provided by the current ubuntu release. in some cases you may want to re-enable the 'Bionic' version of a third party17:56
tomreynrepository you used to have enabled in the past (but try to limit this as much as possible). and anything you don't seem to actually require, should just be deleted.17:56
howudodathaving some issues with nmcli on ubuntu 18.04 headless.  nmcli dev shows wlan0 as unavailable.  iw dev shows wlan 0 as managed  (iw scan also lists APs)17:57
database228iori: https://termbin.com/p6ju17:58
ioriadatabase228,  you have multiple nvidia drivers installed17:58
database228ioria: https://termbin.com/p6ju17:58
howudodatboard has multiple ethernets that we would like managed through /ec/network/interfaces and wifi we would like managed with nmcli17:59
ioriadatabase228,  you have multiple nvidia drivers installed17:59
tomreynTheWild: here's how to read one of these lines of output of apt-forktracer: package_name (version_of_package_currently_installed) [Configured_APT_Origin: version_of_package_available_from_this_apt_origin] [...]17:59
EriC^^IntelCore: what's up?17:59
database228ioria: I don't know how so what next17:59
IntelCoreyo.. I got boor-repair.   cas your trick just boot ubuntu only18:00
ioriadatabase228,  sudo apt purge  nvidia-38418:00
EriC^^IntelCore: how come i thought it picked up bootmgfw.efi.backup when you did update-grub18:00
IntelCorenow still only ubuntu..  but, grub menu is up18:00
IntelCoreand I looked with. boot info script... and went, wow.18:01
database228ioria: done18:01
ioriadatabase228,  sudo apt purge   linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-76-generic18:01
database228ioria: done18:02
ioriadatabase228,  try to restart gdm:  sudo systemctl restart gdm318:03
database228ioria blinked 5 times18:03
ioriadatabase228,  sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic and reboot18:04
TheWildlibjbig0 for example is up to date (taken from deb.sury.org). I can't reinstall it because "Reinstallation of libjbig0 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." and I can't remove it because too many things depend on it.18:06
IntelCoreEriC^  - chk yuor chat winder pls.18:06
IntelCoreno rush18:06
database228ioria: no graphic18:08
ioriadatabase228,  open a console and paste dmesg output18:09
database228ioria: https://termbin.com/p08p18:10
database228ioria: what you find?18:13
ioriadatabase228,  can you boot without nomodeset now ?18:13
ioriabrb18:13
database228Ioria: okay18:14
tomreynTheWild: what's the output of:  (sudo apt update &>1; echo; apt policy &>1; echo; apt policy libjbig0 &>1) > /tmp/ubuntusupport; cat /tmp/ubuntusupport | nc termbin.com 999918:16
tomreynTheWild: ignore this18:17
database228ioria: the same old problem can't even open console18:17
TheWildI think I'm going to wipe it anyway :/18:18
tomreynTheWild: what's the output of:    (sudo apt update 2>&1; echo; apt policy 2>&1; echo; apt policy libjbig0 2>&1) > /tmp/ubuntusupport; cat /tmp/ubuntusupport | nc termbin.com 999918:18
TheWildit's broken18:18
TheWildhttps://termbin.com/3xku18:19
tomreynTheWild: do you need a PHP version which is different than the one ubuntu 18.04 LTS provides?18:20
TheWildPHP 7.4 dammit!18:21
tomreynTheWild: run this to install the version of package libjbig0 which is provided by Ubuntu 18.04: sudo apt install libjbig0=2.1-3.1build118:22
TheWildwill it simply install that version or install that version and pin it? I don't want it to be pinned.18:22
ioriadatabase228,  ok, boot again with nomodeset18:23
database228Okay18:24
tomreynTheWild: it will replace the leftover package version (which was built for ubuntu 16.04, and now has no upgrade path, and gets no security updates, and has the potential to break your apt dependencies), which you have installed now, by the one which is available in ubuntu 18.04, and continue to track ubuntu 18.04 for updates on this package.18:25
tomreynit will not configure apt pinning18:25
TheWildgood!18:27
TheWildwhere did you pick that version from... oh, I see18:27
database228ioria: booted18:27
database228Ioria: booted without nomodeset18:28
ioriadatabase228,  and ?18:28
database228Same old problem screen keep blinking18:29
database228Mouse Pointer pointer come and goes18:29
ioriadatabase228,  but you're not using nomodeset atm, right ?18:29
database228Yeah18:29
ioriadatabase228,  paste  lspci -nnk18:30
database228Can't open console to open console I need to reboot the system and boot with nomodeset18:31
database228Ioria: should I do18:32
ioriadatabase228, i want to know if you can boot  correctly 'without' nomodest18:33
database228ioria: no I can't boot correctly without nomodeset18:36
ioriadatabase228, where it stops ?18:36
database228It doesn't show I can only see black screen18:37
ioriadatabase228, remove quiet splash18:37
database228Okay18:38
TheWildsudo apt install libsdl-image1.2-dev18:38
TheWildsuccess!18:38
TheWildthank you tomreyn and pardon my lack of patience18:39
TheWildnow I know where to search and what to fix18:39
tomreynioria: i didn't follow the full discussion with database228, but https://termbin.com/p08p states "NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  390.132" and states "Linux version 4.15.0-96-generic [..] Ubuntu 7.5.0-3ubuntu1~18.04 [..] #97-Ubuntu" - which suggests nvidia driver 390 version 132 is being used on an ubuntu 18.04 LTS system. By default, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS provides version 116 (0ubuntu0.18.04.3) of this driver according to  https://packages.ubuntu.c18:39
tomreynom/search?keywords=nvidia-driver-39018:39
tomreynthat's https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-driver-39018:40
tomreynTheWild: you're welcome. is your apt-forktracer output empty, yet, though? since it should be.18:40
TheWildnot yet. I'm still fixing this.18:41
database228ioria: booting without nomodeset and quite splash18:41
TheWildbut at least I got libsdl-image1.2-dev18:41
TheWildand maybe I'll manage to install wine. I couldn't install it because of the same problem long time ago and I gave up.18:41
database228ioria still can't see anything other then black blinking screen18:41
IntelCoreit's driver18:42
tomreynTheWild: right, good start. also you're learning how to recover from this situation which you may want to take notes on since it can happen again (or most likely will, unless you're purge all PPAs before release upgrading in the future).18:42
TheWildyes, I'll definitely save this discussion18:42
ioriatomreyn, 132 isin proposed-restricted18:42
tomreynioria: oh ok, sorry.18:43
ioria!info nvidia-driver-390 bionic-proposed18:43
database228ioria: starting nvidia persistent daemon18:43
ubottunvidia-driver-390 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Version 390.132-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic-proposed), package size 372 kB, installed size 1081 kB18:43
TheWildI think the only ppa I keep is docker.18:44
ioriadatabase228, let's try to purge nvidia :  sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-39018:44
database228ioria: starting nvidia persistent daemon and the next line is stopped nvidia persistent daemon tools18:45
ioriadatabase228, let's try to purge nvidia :  sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-39018:45
database228ioria: Done18:47
ioriadatabase228, sudo apt autoremove --purge18:48
database228Okay18:48
database228ioria: done18:48
ioriadatabase228, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 999918:49
TheWildtomreyn: I don't get this line: libicu55 (55.1-7ubuntu0.4)18:53
TheWildthere's nothing in square brackets. Should I simply remove the package. (this one has actually to do something with Unicode)18:53
TheWildmy installation has libicu55 and libicu6018:54
database228ioria: output of "didi dpkg -i"https://termbin.com/rag118:54
ioriadatabase228, try again18:54
tomreynTheWild: i said that the apt-forktracer output should be empty. this wasn't exactly correct: to make it empty, you'd need to not have any packages from 3rd party repositories installed. what you should try to achieve is that its output lists no packages where there is no APT repository configured for the given package, so no upgrade path for this package. in this case, you would have no square brackets on the line of output.18:54
database228ioria: when I try with your command then I didn't get any URL18:55
tomreynTheWild: also, you should not have a package installed where the version in round brackets (the one installed) is not matched by one of the versions in square brackets (the versions available from apt repositories configured ony our system)18:55
tomreynTheWild: the line you just referred to matches the first case i just described.18:56
ioriadatabase228, run only    'dpkg -l | grep nvidia     '  if it's empty it's ok18:56
database228Yeah it's Empty18:56
database228ioria: next18:57
ioriadatabase228, cat /etc/apt/sources.list  | nc termbin.com 999918:57
database228ioria: https://termbin.com/ahd218:58
tomreynTheWild: this is a complete orphan pakage, it should be removed. that's unless you know you need and actually use this specific package (and not just one named similarily) for some reason. for example, you might have a printer driver downloaded from a wendor website, distributed as .deb package only, without apt repository, and thus without an upgrade path.18:59
ioriadatabase228, deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ disco main18:59
TheWildthough nothing seems to refer to that package and I don't remember ever installing it manually19:00
database228ioria: ??19:00
ioriadatabase228, ypu have a wrong source configured19:00
database228Should I remove that pkg19:01
ioriadatabase228,  apt list --installed | grep disco19:01
database228It's giving warning: apt does19:02
database228Does not have a stable cli interface19:03
ioriadatabase228,  yeah, after that ....19:03
tomreynTheWild: do-release-upgrade, the ubuntu release upgrader, would remove some packages from a list of packages no longer needed, around the the later part of the release upgrade. sometimes release upgrades fail somewhere in the middle (usually due to non-purged third party packages and unsolvable package dependencies they introduce), in which case it exts immediately, and those package removals do not take place.19:04
tomreyn*exits19:04
database228ioria: sorry, but what next19:05
ioriadatabase228,  dpkg -l | grep wine | nc termbin.com 999919:07
tomreynTheWild: In the case of a xenial -> bionic release upgrade, i think that do-release-upgrade would have replaced libicu55 (only available on xenial - https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libicu55 ) by libicu60 (only available on bionic https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libicu60 ) during this late upgrade stage.19:08
database228ioria: I removed the wine from sources.list19:09
ioriadatabase228,  dpkg -l | grep wine | nc termbin.com 999919:09
database228ioria: dpkg: error:  --install at least one pkg archive file argargment19:11
ioriadatabase228,  you mistyped something   :   dpkg -l | grep wine19:12
TJ-database228: lowercase L not uppercase I19:12
database228ioria: above command doesn't give any url19:12
ioriadatabase228,  as TJ-   lowercase L      :   dpkg -l | grep wine19:13
database2ioria: no output of above command19:17
ioriadatabase228,  ok,  sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop^      (note the ^)19:18
ioriadatabase2, ,  ok,  sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop^      (note the ^)19:18
database2ioria: done19:19
ioriadatabase2, ,  already don e? usually it takes a while19:19
TJ-ioria: that'll only reinstall the meta package won't it? not any binaries19:20
TJ-ioria: at least last time I (re)installed a task I'm pretty sure that's all it did19:21
ioriaTJ-, well,  with ^ it should reistall all19:21
database2ioria: I am sorry but it only downloaded 3664 bytes19:21
ioriadatabase2, btw, reboot19:21
database2ioria: boot with nomodeset or not19:22
ioriadatabase2, without19:22
database2Ioria: same old problem19:25
ioriadatabase2, where it stops now ?19:26
database2Let me see19:27
AssociateXHello people. I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 18.04, it's updated. I did the minimal install. I could not get files off of my phone, specifically photos. I created a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ "SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1004", ATTR{idProduct}=="633e", MODE="0666"" then restarted udev. This worked last night, but not this morning. So,19:28
AssociateXI did "sudo chmod 777 /dev/bus/usb/001/*" and now I have access to the files on my phone. I think that what I am doing is a little reckless, but proves the point that I have a permissions problem. There is probably a completely sane solution to accomplish the same thing, and I hope that someone here knows what that solution is.19:28
database2ioria: started user manager for uid12119:30
ioriadatabase2, did you edit/change some system config files ? like plymouth or ubuntu.css19:32
doebiwhy is the snap version of chromium so damn broken?19:32
database2ioria: never19:33
ioriadatabase2, then when this started to happen ?19:34
database2Yesterday morning I was watching YouTube and suddenly my computer hang and no icon were working19:35
ioriai see19:35
database2Only mouse was working19:36
blahboybazdoes anyone know why I can't install a theme from gnome look? I get a page says address wasn't understood19:36
blahboybazI have gnome tweak tool installed19:36
ioriadatabase2, can you open a console ?19:36
database2And after that I long pressed the power button19:36
ioriadatabase2, can you open a console ?19:37
blahboybazDoes this seem like the right soln?  https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1136805/19:37
database2Ioria:  need to boot again with nomodset19:38
ioriadatabase2, wow, ok19:38
database2ioria: done19:44
ioriadatabase2, sudo apt  install lightdm  and set it as default19:44
database2ioria done19:45
ioriadatabase2, reboot :þ19:46
database2ioria: With nomodeset?19:46
ioriadatabase2, nope19:46
database2ioria: same problem19:48
database2ioria: started light display manager19:49
ioriadatabase2, instead of nomodest bootwith 'i915.modeset=0'19:49
Mateon1Hello, I tried accessing the ubuntu wiki (help.ubuntu.com) from a google search result. I got a "Surge protection" error message despite this being the first time I've accessed the site in a while19:51
Mateon1I tried waiting two minutes to no effect, not sure what else to do so I hopped onto IRC19:51
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TheWildis anyone here using djvu encoder?19:53
tomreynMateon1: thanks for reporting, this is a server die issue, which has since been reported to Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu which also hosts this server.19:53
tomreyn*server side19:53
database2ioria: failed: to start detect the available GPUs and deal with any system changes19:53
tomreynMateon1: in the mean time, you can use Google cache of this page.19:53
database2ioria: failed to start light display manager19:54
Mateon1tomreyn: Oh, thank you, I always forget Google has a cache, I was wondering whether I have to dig up the wayback machine19:54
tomreynhttps://support.google.com/websearch/answer/168722219:54
ioriadatabase2, boot with nomodeset19:56
database2ioria: okay19:56
database2ioria: underscore keep blinking at left most corner19:58
ioriadatabase2, ctrl+alt+f319:59
database2Not working19:59
database2ioria: not working20:00
ioriadatabase2,  it should , you're booting with nomodeset, right ?20:00
database2ioria right20:01
ioriadatabase2,  try again20:01
database2ioria: not working20:02
ioriadatabase2,  i'am afaid  i have to leave, but you keep asking in here or come back tomorrow20:03
database2ioria: okay20:03
database2ioria: thanks20:04
iKarus987Hi guys i am playing some games steam games, and i realized now no matter what resolution i pick, EVERYTHING becomes stretched. In windows u can choose if u wanna have black bars or stretch20:07
iKarus987how do i add black bars, for instance i wanna play a game at 800x60020:07
iKarus987without stretching20:07
iKarus987thanks20:07
IntelCoreplay game in a window20:10
IntelCorenot full screen20:10
IntelCorecheck game video settings20:11
iKarus987you mean play in windows mode?20:18
Mcl0vingood day folks, I hope all are staying safe with COVID-19. qq ... running Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS it seems that everytime I stop run my box i have to issue sudo netplan apply for my box to talk to my network. what am i missing/doing wrong here?20:19
Mcl0vin!pastebin20:20
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:20
Mcl0vinhere is the content of my yaml file for my netplan https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3tWgQ8Mx4H/20:21
tomreynMcl0vin: while it's fine here, there's #ubuntu-server for server specific questions (netplan is mostly used on servers). it could also help to describe "everytime I stop run my box i have to issue sudo netplan apply for my box to talk to my network" better, adding logs (such as from the latest shutdown / reboot: journalctl -eb -1 ), screen shots, error messages.20:28
tomreyn(personally, i will be afk for a while now, but will try to see whether you got help here later after providing more information)20:30
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IntelCoreknow about boot ing ubuntu & win10?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jjmb7Y4QCQ/20:38
IntelCorelooks like it's grub picked up firmware20:39
EriC^^IntelCore: i dont get it, last time i remember you said it picked up windows20:43
EriC^^oh nevermind IntelCore , you didnt mention that20:45
EriC^^IntelCore: are you there?20:46
nakedgoatanyone know what I am doing wrong, adding a kvm bridge (01-netcfg.yaml) to /etc/netplan, current ext. IP static, when I add the 2nd .yaml and do sudo netplan apply - it works until I reboot.  SO I'm doing something wrong..20:53
nakedgoatv18.0420:58
IntelCorehey21:06
IntelCoreyes21:07
IntelCoresorry21:07
IntelCoreubuntu boots via grub, nothing else21:09
IntelCoremight pewin/bcd the file?21:10
TheShaggSimple question: If I install the 20.04 beta, I assume I can easily install updates as they come to get my system up to the official release, once it comes?21:10
TheShaggI'm setting up a new computer and want the new LTS, but I don't want to wait til the end of the month21:11
WandererTheShagg, I personally do so every LTS. No way to know for sure, but I would be all will be fine.21:11
WandererI am 20.04 on 4 devices.21:12
dax!final21:12
ubottuIf you install a development version of Ubuntu Focal and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 20.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.21:12
Wanderersorry grammer21:12
TheShagggreat, thanks all!21:12
TheShaggI've been playing with fedora (I need some newer virtualization features for GPU passthrough), but I've been having terrible luck with problems with drive encryption. I'm hoping the new Ubuntu LTS will cover all my bases and just work + be stable.21:14
IntelCoreApril 16th is release.. that is.. point release21:14
nakedgoatif I remove the netplan settings I added, and reboot it's fine.. it's a vm..21:15
IntelCorejuly 202021:15
IntelCoreis a vm persistent.?21:16
nakedgoatyea21:17
nakedgoatI have 50-cloud-init.yaml, which is the working one - I am adding 01-netcfg.yaml - which looks like this https://pastebin.com/mtqYLbjE21:19
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IntelCoreI open my connection from the desktop, and at the bottom it says - edit, then set dhcp auto. and don't tick nothing else..then the ethernet set-up, and the rest.. So, not sure if that helps21:22
nakedgoatit' headless21:23
IntelCorewifi security is where the password goes21:24
pavlosnakedgoat: can you comment out the macaddress ?21:27
IntelCorenot in #ubuntu-server, I dunno21:27
EriC^^IntelCore: ok, type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"21:28
EriC^^IntelCore: "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"21:28
IntelCorehttps://termbin.com/w6aq21:30
EriC^^IntelCore: sec, looking21:35
EriC^^IntelCore: it looks like bootmgfw.efi.backup is missing now, but there's a bootmgr.efi not sure if that's the same?21:37
EriC^^let me see my own efi partition if i have that file21:37
IntelCorewhere will it be?21:38
IntelCoregrubx64 and two others I see.21:40
EriC^^IntelCore: i have the file, its size is differentt than the bootmgfw.efi21:41
EriC^^-rwx------ 1 root root 1159520 Oct 16  2016 bootmgfw.efi.backup21:41
EriC^^-rwx------ 1 root root 1237912 Feb 10  2018 bootmgr.efi21:41
IntelCorebootx64.efi.bak in /boot/efi/EFI/Boot21:41
EriC^^IntelCore: great, i didnt notice that, that's it21:42
IntelCorebkpbootx64.efi same place21:42
IntelCorewindows came up with a blank light blue screen, then restarted it.. then grub took over, but won't load windows21:43
EriC^^IntelCore: ok, type "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/Boot/bootx64.efi.bak /boot/efi/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup"21:44
EriC^^IntelCore: then type 'echo "" | sudo tee /etc/grub.d/25_custom'21:46
IntelCoreecho "" |sudo tee /etc/grub.d/25_custom   -  no screen std out21:48
EriC^^IntelCore: did you run the cp command as well?21:48
IntelCoreyes. no std out return.21:49
IntelCoredid copy - yes21:49
EriC^^IntelCore: ok, type now 'grep "bootmgfw.efi.backup" /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft'21:50
EriC^^does it show the line back in red?21:51
IntelCorered is the backup file?21:53
IntelCorebootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi.backup "$efi/$microsoft/$boot")21:53
IntelCoresda5 is D:\ win10 190921:55
untakenstupidnici have a legacy elementaryOS based on ubuntu 16.04 and don't want to lose all the programs i have on it, what is the best way to keep it?21:57
EriC^^IntelCore: yup that looks good21:59
EriC^^IntelCore: ok, type "sudo update-grub | nc termbin.com 9999"21:59
EriC^^IntelCore: ?22:06
IntelCorei got no termbin.com22:07
IntelCoreit did update grub22:07
IntelCorein yer chat window22:08
IntelCorehttps://elementaryos.stackexchange.com/questions/6851/migrate-back-to-ubuntu22:11
IntelCorefor u..22:11
IntelCorebrb.. hold on22:11
IntelCoreWheee !!!!!!!!22:15
IntelCoreon windows22:15
IntelCoreEriC^  man, I'll send ya Stuff!22:16
IntelCoreYou got need in crisis. Call meh22:16
IntelCoreI'll Help ya out22:16
IntelCorety for helping the ubuntu boot grub22:17
IntelCoreHow you learned all that..is astonishing22:17
AssociateXI'm on a fresh install of Kubuntu 18.04, it's all updated. How do I get the a scroll click to lower a window/program?22:27
lestachello! if anyone feel sick and want to try some alternatives, i found that channel what have bioresonances in youtube, hope can help some! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgMgef-nxELn8jaHV01w_Gw/videos22:28
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IntelCoreon a desktop. I click once up.. from the bar, and once on the bar(program) for it to go away. I noticed FireFox has no _box x.. at the top..22:30
AssociateXThank you.22:31
IntelCoreAssociateX, will it go away at the bar with another click22:31
IntelCorethere's a wizard.. for how that acts, too22:32
IntelCorecompiz can make 3d desk.. windows go wild22:32
IntelCoregnome settings22:35
Jordan_ULukas_19: Please don't post videos / links that are not related to a specific Ubuntu support question. Posts like yours are considered spam here.22:38
IntelCoreI wanna go show ubuntu to the library, but it's closed22:45
IntelCore:( better safe, tho.22:45
snowpandaHi, I have a question that I'm hoping someone can help with. I'm trying to use x2go to connect to a remote Ubuntu instance. I can connect as root, but not as a user I created.22:56
snowpandaI've given the user I created ssh permissions, etc, so I'm not sure what's going on22:57
xet7snowpanda: Ask here instead: /join #x2go23:00
snowpandathanks23:01
semitonesis there a new command that gives you what your ip address is? ifconfig isn't installed so I'm guessing things have changed23:42
daxip addr23:43
dax(ifconfig's been deprecated for years and years, `ip` replaces it and a bunch of other tools)23:43
semitonesthanks dax!23:44
semitonesps, i happened to login today and find out that freenode just purged a bunch of old accounts... it's been a while23:45
semitones(including mine)23:45
IntelCoreThanks again #Ubuntu.. bee back l8tr23:56

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