 I find that the thing is with a pdf of the manual is that the outline to the left is not working at all
 I can make a pdf version but the chapter nubmers are also kind of broken
 Oh. I didn't know we had ^ this capability in our channel.
[07:42] <snoop_> ciao a tutti e buona pasqua
[07:42] <snoop_> Happy easter
[14:35] <Halcyforn> hello
[14:35] <triplenull> Hello o/
[14:36] <Halcyforn> how this system work on older laptops i have old hp pavilion 9500 with athlon x2 and geoforce 7150m
[14:36] <Halcyforn> and how much space need
[14:36] <Halcyforn> 2 gb ram i have
[14:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! @Halcyforn Lubuntu runs pretty welll in the specs you have.
[14:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> for space even 15gb is also enough.
[14:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, @guiverc I have a problem with ubuntu 19.10, The wifi disconects after sometime if the system is locked. It doesn't connect back even after logging back in untill I restart the system.. Is this a known bug?
[14:44] <Halcyforn> i remeber this bug but on mint i must change wifi program
 @The_LoudSpeaker Ubuntu or Lubuntu?
[14:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> ubuntu
[14:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> A friend is facing it.
[14:46] <Halcyforn> did he try change program to wifi probably manager have a problem with card
 You could try in #ubuntu
[14:46] <Halcyforn> or reinstall it
 I haven't had the issue in Lubuntu
[14:47] <Halcyforn> i have this issue but on linux mint 10.1 :D
[14:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> I tried in #ubuntu
[14:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> just filed a bug report too
[14:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> lets see
[14:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1872308
[14:54] <Halcyforn> i have question about lubunntu how in this system look change language, i need 2 languages in system polish and russian/ukrainian
[15:20] <danny58> hi, sorry to bother you. I know it's April when a new Lubuntu is released. what's the exact date?
[15:22] <kc2bez> danny58: On or near April 23. Delays can happen sometimes. For more information https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[15:23] <danny58> thank you! :)
[15:23] <kc2bez> You are welcome :)
[15:25] <triplenull> The iso tracker is showing the live session test script as not completed for yesterday's focal daily image. Is it still useful if I were to run through this?
[15:26] <kc2bez> triplenull: Testing is always welcome. There are things changing all the time.
[15:27] <triplenull> kc2bez: thanks! I'll give it a shot.
[15:27] <kc2bez> Thank you for testing triplenull
[15:46] <soyreal> Hi, is anyone having problems at installing 20.04?
[18:21] <LavaPuppy> hey guys
[18:21] <LavaPuppy> is me TechPup but with ghanged nickname
[18:21] <LavaPuppy> hello
[20:07] <paulnoise> Hi there, is anyone using UbuntuDDE yet?
[20:10] <Halcyforn> i have problem its second system based onn lxde what cant turn on my wi-fi card.
[20:11] <Halcyforn> this is broadcom lspci show me
 @paulnoise [<paulnoise> Hi there, is anyone using UbuntuDDE yet?], This is not the right place to ask. This is a Lubuntu support channel. Most people here would be using Lubuntu.
[20:39] <santimir[m]> is there a way to default the window decoration to undecorate ? (19.10)
[20:49] <santimir[m]> editing the configure file under my user didn't workout
[20:50] <kc2bez> Which file did you edit santimir[m] ?
[20:50] <kc2bez> This config would need to go in your openbox configuration.
[20:51] <kc2bez> by default that is lxqt.rc
[20:51] <santimir[m]> i've copied that file (under /etc) on ~/.config/openbox
[20:53] <santimir[m]> btw, in my lubuntu install the tiling of windows didn't work. seems there is a clash with the shortcut for opening the menu (super) and the tiling (super + arrows). is this the case?
[20:53] <kc2bez> Yes, you can't really have the super do both.
[20:54] <santimir[m]> i've changed the menu to super + M and now it's ok
[20:54] <kc2bez> For the window decoration you need to add something like this to your openbox config file https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CwhVYpnqPq/
[20:56] <tbs> hello, im testing lubuntu daily build:) it works well after installation but installation was bad... i could not install if i wasnt experienced about it, i needed gparted to set esp flag, not installation app or kde partition manager could set esp flag. i also didnt see language selection page at start of live usb, i like it actually. other than these all is well^^ lubuntu is fast and feels good:) but that esp flag bug/error is so importand really!
[20:56] <santimir[m]> oh i see the problem. the line was commented on this file. sorry
[20:56] <santimir[m]> and thanks
[20:56] <kc2bez> Happy to help.
[20:57] <tbs> i also tried if turkish discover has same bug, it works well  now
[20:58] <tbs> is there anything u guys suggest me to try?
[21:01] <kc2bez> @tbs did you get an error on your failed install and did you report a bug?
[21:02] <tbs> @kc2bez no i didnt yet, im still trying lubuntu
[21:03] <tbs> btw installation s  not failed cuz i found a way to continue but not with what lubuntu has
[21:03] <tbs> i used gparted to make it
[21:04] <tbs> even kde partition manager couldnt put esp flag...
[21:04] <tbs> so im not sure if i say installation failed or not
[21:05] <portlantfit> test
[21:05] <kc2bez> Sounds like a failure to me, bug reports with steps to reproduce and hardware used will be helpful @tbs
[21:07] <tbs> i ll do it^^
[21:07] <kc2bez> Thank you.
[21:13] <tbs> i also want to share a little video to show what i found, im not sure if it s a bug or maybe lubuntu doesnt have it
[21:13] <tbs> how can i send that video here?
[21:14] <tbs> i used a file sharing web site but it has ad, should i share it with that web site?
 https://imgur.com/ ?
[21:17] <tbs> https://imgur.com/QgLTG1J
[21:17] <tbs> video doesnt open at my browser, does it work for u?
[21:17] <kc2bez> I got it.
[21:18] <kc2bez> You can't move a maximized window. I would call that expected behaviour.
[21:18] <tbs> okay
[21:20] <hugo_> hello
[21:20] <kc2bez> o/
[21:27] <tbs> there s something i was wondering about ram usage at lubuntu
[21:28] <tbs> there s 2 apps at lubuntu to show how much ram system using
[21:28] <tbs> at htop 750mb used in total 11600>>> rate is 0,6465
[21:28] <tbs> at qps  837mb used in total 11865>>> rate is 0,7054
[21:29] <tbs> even their rate is not same, so one of them  should be wrong, which one?
[21:31] <kc2bez> They are different tools and do it a little differently I suppose. Also, the application is using some memory itself so depending on which tool used it will impact the memory usage.
[21:32] <kc2bez> you could also use `free -mh` on the command line for yet a different analysis. XD
[21:33] <tbs> i calculated these while both of them are running, so there shouldnt be a differance cuz of their ram usage
[21:35] <tbs> well, not a thing i  see as dangerous but im sure there is something wrong with one of them at least or both:D
[21:35] <tbs> im going to sleep, cya
[21:55] <clueless> Hey, is this an appropriate place to get ask for some help?
[21:57] <kc2bez> This is the place for Lubuntu support.
[22:01] <clueless> Great. So I reinstalled Lubuntu recently in order to have my drive encrypted. It was working just fine until this morning - now I start the computer, unencrypted the drive just fine, then I get stuck on the login screen after submitting my password. The computer doesn't "freeze", per se - I can still move my mouse around. It just hangs there until
[22:01] <clueless> I kill the computer or Ctrl alt f3. This is different behavior from when I put in an incorrect pw: when I do that, the login screen at least gives me feedback in the form of telling me the pw is wrong.
[22:02] <clueless> When I Ctrl alt f3 it repeatedly prints Cannot open display "default display" until I Ctrl c
[22:03] <clueless> So I have checked ownership of .Xauthority and it seems fine - it is owned by me. I have also made sure there are no prohibitively large files anywhere
[22:03] <kc2bez> Which version of Lubuntu?
[22:03] <clueless> 19.10
[22:04] <clueless> Or is it 19.04? Let me check
[22:05] <kc2bez> I hope 19.10, 19.04 is EOL
[22:05] <kc2bez> `lsb_release -a` should let you know.
[22:06] <clueless> Yeah it's 10
[22:10] <kc2bez> Any changes recently clueless ?
[22:11] <kc2bez> Also which desktop session did you choose at the login screen?
[22:13] <clueless> Not any changes that I know of. I just installed this instance of Lubuntu yesterday - can't recall whether or not I had rebooted and logging in prior to this morning
[22:14] <clueless> Give me one sec to answer the other question
[22:14] <kc2bez> ok no problem
[22:16] <clueless> Ok it looks like I've been trying to log in with the Lubuntu session (what does the session even mean? ) The other options available are LXQt Desktop and Openbox
[22:16] <clueless> Should I try one of the others?
[22:16] <kc2bez> No, I just wanted to know which one you used.
[22:17] <kc2bez> What type of graphics card do you have?
[22:18] <clueless> Looks like Intel onboard
[22:19] <clueless> It's a dinky little Lenovo ideapad
[22:19] <kc2bez> Hmm, not sure why it is giving you an issue.
[22:19] <kc2bez> Where did you download the iso from and did you check the hash?
[22:21] <clueless> Don't recall where I got it. It was at least a few weeks ago. Definitely didn't check the hash
[22:21] <clueless> Either of the Lubuntu websites
[22:21] <clueless> I'd be surprised if I got it from anywhere other than one of them
[22:22] <kc2bez> We only have one official site lubuntu.me and https://lubuntu.me/downloads would be the right place.
[22:22] <clueless> Yeah I just learned that lol
[22:23] <kc2bez> Also it is pretty important to check the hash as even 1 bit off could cause strange things.
[22:23] <kc2bez> Corrupted iso files are actually common.
[22:25] <kc2bez> Here is our manual page that has how to check the hash https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.1/retrieving_the_image.html
[22:25] <clueless> Thanks. I think I'm gonna keep trying for a bit before I reinstall entirely
[22:26] <kc2bez> ok sounds good.
[22:26] <clueless> While just watching it, I noticed the screen went black and then sent me back to the login screen with pw input cleared. It took minutes for that to happen though
[22:26] <clueless> Is there a way for me to check the hash if I've already put the iso on my thumb drive?
[22:27] <clueless> Or do I need the actual ISO file to check
[22:29] <kc2bez> When you boot the USB you could run the "Check Disk for Defects" tool.
[22:50] <clueless> hey all - i fixed my problem. if the solution is what it appears to be, this is one for the history books (at least my history book)
[22:50] <clueless> i was about to give up and reinstall lubuntu, but before I did that i wanted to jot down all my dotfiles
[22:51] <clueless> so i ctrl+alt+f3'd and started looking at them
[22:51] <clueless> the contents of my .bash_profile were:
[22:51] <clueless> . ~/.profile
[22:51] <clueless> . ~/.bash_profile
[22:51] <clueless> i meant to have that second line be . ~/.bashrc
[22:52] <clueless> so what i think is happening was when I logged in, .bash_profile was recursively calling itself
[22:52] <kc2bez> Oh that does sound bad.
[22:53] <kc2bez> Glad you figured it out.
[22:53] <clueless> when i ctrl+alt+f3'd, i was getting a message regarding the display that kept repeating until i ctrl+c'd. i think that ctrl+c was terminating the loop
[22:53] <clueless> anyway, thanks for the help. i will definitely check my hashes from now on even though that (probably) wasn't the issue
[22:54] <kc2bez> Good to know. It is a great thing to check before you get to deep.
[23:18] <n-iCe> Hello guys
[23:19] <kc2bez> o/
[23:19] <n-iCe> how are you?
[23:19] <kc2bez> Doing well. Do you have a support question?
[23:19] <n-iCe> I installed Ubuntu full, but I don't feel it that fluid.
[23:19] <n-iCe> Thinking in lubuntu
[23:20] <n-iCe> how is lxqt working thesedays
[23:20] <kc2bez> Works well for me.
[23:20] <n-iCe> is it more lightweight than xfce?
[23:21] <kc2bez> I think tests have shown that, yes.
[23:23] <n-iCe> ok, let's download
[23:27] <n-iCe> moving to usb
[23:30] <n-iCe> done, rebooting, brb
[23:36] <n-iCe> Damn
[23:36] <n-iCe> lubuntu looks great now!
[23:36] <n-iCe> never tried lxqt like this before
[23:37] <n-iCe> it's beatiful
[23:37] <kc2bez> Thank you n-iCe
[23:38] <n-iCe> are you a developer? :o
[23:38] <kc2bez> I am one of them, yes.
[23:38] <n-iCe> Well, congratulations.
[23:39] <n-iCe> Just one thing, is there a way to enable touchpad click?
[23:39] <n-iCe> can't find it.
[23:40] <kc2bez> Yeah, that has a weird name. You can find it in the mouse and touchpad settings. It is called single click to activate.
[23:40] <n-iCe> awesome
[23:40] <n-iCe> do i need to reboot?
[23:40] <n-iCe> was not activated
[23:41] <kc2bez> hmm it should be instant.
[23:41] <n-iCe> is not that for instead clicking twice an icon to launch just launch it with one click?
[23:41] <n-iCe> looks like, touchpad click was not activated with it.
[23:44] <kc2bez> There are two separate spots, one is labeled mouse on the left and the other is mouse and touchpad.
[23:44] <kc2bez> They both have single click to activate but the mouse and touchpad one is the one you want.
 (Photo, 588x423) https://i.imgur.com/oaLOJOE.jpg
[23:46] <kc2bez> i just put a screenshot there ^
[23:46] <n-iCe> ooh
[23:46] <n-iCe> awesome! thanks, solved!!
[23:46] <n-iCe> 90% installation, almost there.
[23:47] <kc2bez> Cool.
[23:53] <n-iCe> still 92% uhm
[23:54] <n-iCe> done, installed brb
[23:59] <n-iCe> Done, installed.