[00:49] <jwash> hi everyone, i added a couple of users and a new shared folder
[00:50] <jwash> i added a common group and added both users to it
[00:51] <jwash> but when i ssh in as one of the users i can not create folders or upload files
[00:56] <tomreyn> jwash: conceptually, this sounds like you did the right thing. if you'd like to share the details on a pastebin, maybe we can help.
[00:57] <jwash> tomreyn, 1 sec
[00:57] <tomreyn> jwash: in this scenario, the directory you want them to access would need to provide read+ write access to the group the two users are a member of.
[00:58] <jwash> yea
[01:01] <TJ-> jwash: the user will also need *traverse* ("x") permissions for all directories leading to the shared, use "namei -l /path/to/shared" to check
[01:02] <jwash> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TfrYbVNWvY/
[01:03] <jwash> neither lance or clark can write to storage
[01:06] <tomreyn> hmm, it's late here, i may be missing something, but it looks like it should work if the precondition TJ mentioned is met.
[01:07] <TJ-> jwash: Try "groups" as each user, not "groups $USER" ... the former will report CURRENT groups, the latter ASSIGNED-but-not-active-until-next-login
[01:08] <jwash> sorry, i don't understand
[01:09] <TJ-> jwash: as the user clark do "groups" see if it reports 'storage'
[01:09] <jwash> clark : clark adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare storage
[01:09] <TJ-> jwash: that was "groups" not "groups clark" ?
[01:10] <jwash> works at the command line, not in thunar
[01:10] <TJ-> jwash: if you added the user to the group during this GUI login session, oyu'd need to log out and in again
[01:10] <jwash> thanks
[01:10] <TJ-> jwash: group membership is fixed at login
[01:11] <jwash> already logged out and in
[01:11] <TJ-> in a terminal you can use the "newgrp xxxx" command to set it directly but that won't help a GUI session
[01:11] <jwash> thanks for your time
[01:11] <TJ-> jwash: can these users list files on the /home/storage/ directory?
[01:12] <TJ-> jwash: and is it a regular directory or a mountpoint for another file-system?
[01:29] <Guest41338> command to restart firefox?
[01:29] <Guest41338> its frozen and i cant google
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Guest41338: pkill firefox
[01:30] <Guest41338> nice thx
[01:41] <Kon> Is there a way to archive the .deb for a specific package at time of install?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> Kon: A .deb file will remain in the directory /var/cache/apt/archives, one can copy off a desired .deb.
[01:46] <Bashing-om> Kon: ^ ( downlaoded with apt, that is)
[02:02] <Kon> Thanks Bashing-om
[02:03] <Bashing-om> Kon: :D Welcome.
[03:03] <Nukecat> hi
[03:06] <Nukecat> How's the gang B)
[03:07] <Nukecat> bye bye
[03:31] <mnathani> I restarted an  ubuntu Virtual machine, but now it wants to install Ubuntu
[03:31] <mnathani> 18.04
[03:33] <matsaman> mnathani: did you leave the install image "in" the "drive"?
[03:44] <leftyfb> mnathani: ^ the answer is yes to matsaman's question. Remove the iso from the list of boot items in your VM settings.
[03:53] <mnathani> that was it
[03:53] <mnathani> scared me for a sec though
[03:53] <mnathani> thought I might have to reinstall / reconfigure the vm
[04:17] <mnathani> Whats the best way to learn Iptables? I know it can be used to perform some insane networking tasks
[04:18] <matsaman> mnathani: /topic #netfilter
[06:19] <JimBuntu> So, I have multiple computers that have various versions of Ubuntu on them. They all fail in a similar way... closing the lid causes issues with them running faster than expected based on audio queues. What would your suggestion be to narrow this down with only that information?
[06:20] <matsaman> JimBuntu: as in the audio playback speed increases?
[06:20] <JimBuntu> presume no internet access for kernel messages, presume they wide or otherwise do not log messages once I/someone closes the lid/screen.
[06:20] <JimBuntu> matsaman: as in the cooling fans speed up
[06:22] <matsaman> JimBuntu: you've definitely set your powere management options to do nothing (other than blanking or locking screen) when lid is closed?
[06:22] <matsaman> power*
[06:23] <JimBuntu> matsaman: These are with default settings. I should have said audio cues and not queues. Sorry for that.
[06:25] <JimBuntu> matsaman: the speed up is rather sudden and appears to be directly relates to closing the lid beyond temp changes. Do you have any suggestions I should change and report? If so, I will , but it may take a while ( so you know )
[06:26] <JimBuntu> By 'quite a while' I mean 8 to 16 hours, not a realy long time
[06:28] <matsaman> JimBuntu: all that really comes to mind is power management malfunction
[06:28] <matsaman> you close the lid
[06:28] <matsaman> the power management configurations are evaluated
[06:28] <matsaman> they try to do something but don't really
[06:28] <matsaman> and instead everything gets confused and overpowers
[06:29] <matsaman> like maybe you close the lid and something is trying to go into suspend/hibernate, but instead it doesn't entirely
[06:31] <JimBuntu> Thank matsaman , I will try to narrow that down. +1 be well
[06:33] <ducasse> JimBuntu: check logind config to see what that does on lid close
[09:21] <Enissay> I want to copy a folder with thousands of small files. how to copy a zipped copy of it ? so far I only have simple copy:   cp -R /myFolder /newLocation
[09:21] <Enissay> zipped=compressed
[09:32] <Goop> Are there any video players that are capable of only displaying a video device, and nothing else? No menus, no buttons?
[09:48] <Rozha> hello
[09:48] <Rozha> some one here for help ?
[09:51] <ansimita> just ask
[09:59] <Rozha> ansimita i install ubuntu
[09:59] <Rozha> i can use only sudo ? how can i su for root ? becouse when i install it wasnt ask for root pass
[10:01] <ansimita> Rozha: what is your native language? I don't understand what you're asking.
[10:02] <Rozha> am russian sorry for my english :)
[10:02] <RougeR> hey
[10:02] <Rozha> ansimita i install ubuntu
[10:03] <RougeR> so i need to do a ubuntu install on a new desktop. I want to carry over all my programs and user files from my laptop ubuntu install
[10:03] <RougeR> what would be the best way to do this?
[10:03] <RougeR> just copy /home and /etc ?
[10:03] <Rozha> have problem whith start apache
[10:03] <ledeni> Rozha, there is not root password use sudo
[10:03] <shiningace> @RougeR I would do an apt list of all the programs and copy over the home directory
[10:04] <shiningace> Don't copy /etc, you might deal with some device specific issues there
[10:04] <RougeR> okay cool
[10:04] <shiningace> Like /etc/fstab, /etc/default/grub
[10:04] <RougeR> sounds solid
[10:04] <Rozha> leden apt-get remove apache2
[10:04] <Rozha> but the folders doesnot removes
[10:04] <RougeR> yeah i want to avoid things like setting up pythong, ruby, c# etc again
[10:04] <ansimita> Rozha: maybe also try asking at #ubuntu-ru
[10:04] <RougeR> as well
[10:04] <shiningace> You can copy those specific configs that's fine
[10:05] <shiningace> But the whole /etc would be a little finicky
[10:05] <RougeR> yeah, they are very different machines
[10:05] <RougeR> like...as different as you can get lol almost
[10:06] <ledeni> Rozha,'sudo rm /folders'
[10:06] <Rozha> ledeni but why apt remove doesnot remove folders ?
[10:07] <RougeR> intel cpu/integrated graphics, ddr3 ram thinkpad. vs amd cpu, amd dedicated gpu, ddr4 ram desktop
[10:07] <RougeR> lol
[10:07] <ansimita> Rozha: u might want to look into apt purge instead
[10:09] <RougeR> shiningace, ah its annoying i couldnt hold off for the LTS 20.04
[10:11] <RougeR> err shit
[10:11] <RougeR> just thought i might have an issue
[10:11] <RougeR> i don't have any integrated graphics on my desktop
[10:11] <RougeR> its gpu or nothing
[10:12] <RougeR> "I have an RX480 as well. The drivers for it are built into the kernel."
[10:12] <RougeR> promising
[10:14] <gitShrekt> Hi guys
[10:14] <gitShrekt> wow 20.04 is amazingly well
[10:14] <gitShrekt> is the Snap store the Ubuntu store
[10:14] <gitShrekt> Are normies forced to use apt to install apt packages
[10:14] <RougeR> is 20.04 out?
[10:14] <gitShrekt> seems a bit weird
[10:14] <gitShrekt> No
[10:14] <gitShrekt> but it's basically close to final freeze
[10:15] <RougeR> yeah 24th?
[10:15] <RougeR> reckon i should go for it
[10:15] <gitShrekt> 23rd
[10:15] <RougeR> im about to do a new install
[10:15] <gitShrekt> April
[10:15] <gitShrekt> yeah
[10:15] <gitShrekt> same case I was like 1 hour ago
[10:15] <RougeR> yeah, i was debating it
[10:15] <RougeR> forgot i could beta
[10:15] <gitShrekt> It's way faster
[10:15] <RougeR> sound
[10:15] <gitShrekt> like I think it's the biggest update since 18.04
[10:15] <RougeR> yeah im on pretty new hardware for this build
[10:15] <lapion> I have a system that some non-raided hdd partitions mount with stripe=32K should this not be set to 0 ?
[10:15] <RougeR> first time running linux on a decent desktop in years
[10:15] <gitShrekt> well give it a try then, since it hit beta freeze
[10:15] <RougeR> whats your install on gitShrekt ?
[10:16] <gitShrekt> there's nothing much other than updates
[10:16] <gitShrekt> a ThinkPad
[10:16] <lapion> I have a system that has some non-raided hdd partitions mounted with the option stripe=32K should this not be set to 0 ?
[10:16] <RougeR> ah nice, im on 19.10 on my thinkpad now
[10:16] <gitShrekt> it took about 4 ubuntu releases
[10:16] <RougeR> i might take that up to 20.04 too
[10:16] <gitShrekt> my fingerprint reader now works perfectly
[10:16] <gitShrekt> after a lot of time
[10:16] <gitShrekt> but only on Ubuntu for some reason
[10:16] <gitShrekt> on Fedora it sucks
[10:16] <RougeR> im only on 19.10 instead of 18.04 due to issues with gpu hw accel
[10:16] <RougeR> what thinkpad gitShrekt ?
[10:17] <RougeR> mines an x250
[10:17] <gitShrekt> it's an older one
[10:17] <gitShrekt> The T440p
[10:17] <gitShrekt> oh, well like 1 year difference
[10:17] <RougeR> ahhh nice, i had n still have another one
[10:17] <lapion> gitShrekt, probably due to /lib/firmware missing in Fedora..
[10:17] <gitShrekt> I mean it works better than Windows atm
[10:17] <RougeR> lol i dont count X40 series as old
[10:17] <RougeR> thats basically new!
[10:17] <RougeR> haha
[10:17] <gitShrekt> lapion: you mean proprietary drivers ?
[10:17] <gitShrekt> don't think I checked that box during install
[10:18] <lapion> gitShrekt, well yes the firmware that the driver loads..
[10:18] <gitShrekt> But Fedora does that too, doesn't it /
[10:18] <gitShrekt> like firmware drivers despite being non-free
[10:18] <lapion> gitShrekt, ubuntu allows more firmwares..
[10:18] <gitShrekt> No proprietary drivers in use
[10:18] <gitShrekt> so that's not it
[10:19] <gitShrekt> But the Cannonical devs still hate Hot corners and wayland
[10:19] <gitShrekt> but what's wrong with hot corners
[10:19] <lapion> Hot corners are really annoying with multiple displays
[10:19] <gitShrekt> well just the one near activities
[10:19] <gitShrekt> is perfect
[10:19] <gitShrekt> the time it takes to click Activities is awfully long
[10:20] <gitShrekt> but is the Snap store the Ubuntu store
[10:20] <gitShrekt> weird
[10:21] <gitShrekt> is Ubuntu 100% snap now
[10:21] <gitShrekt> kinda like a Fedora Silverblue, but better
[10:21] <gitShrekt> Because there actually are a lot of snap packages as opposed to flatpaks
[10:32] <gitShrekt> Can you modify the Ubuntu dock
[10:32] <gitShrekt> without installing Dash To Dock
[10:33] <lapion> If snap cannot be extracted from ubuntu 2004 I and many others will finally move away from ubuntu for ever.. or try to create a rolling release for 18.04
[10:37] <gitShrekt> lapion: no
[10:37] <gitShrekt> they literally removed the Ubuntu Store
[10:37] <gitShrekt> it's now the Snap Store
[10:37] <gitShrekt> most default apps are snap
[10:37] <gitShrekt> and since 19.10 a lot of apps you install with APT are litearlly installing snaps
[10:37] <gitShrekt> like Chromium
[10:37] <gitShrekt> and a lot of default apps are snap too
[10:38] <gitShrekt> and unlike 19.10 I'm not sure apt installs the Debian-y alternative
[10:38] <gitShrekt> so Ubuntu is becoming the Snap Distro
[10:38] <gitShrekt> which ain't bad in my opinion
[10:38] <gitShrekt> albeit a controversial one
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | gitShrekt
[10:40] <gitShrekt> oh
[10:40] <gitShrekt> so this is a help irc ?
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> yes, we focus on ubuntu issues gitShrekt
[10:41] <gitShrekt> well
[10:41] <gitShrekt> isn't the lack of a Ubuntu Store an issue for most users
[10:41] <lapion> gitschrekt it lowers the performance of all systems..
[10:41] <gitShrekt> the lack to install APT packages
[10:41] <gitShrekt> lapion: snaps, I don't think so
[10:41] <gitShrekt> well they used to
[10:41] <gitShrekt> launch slower
[10:41] <gitShrekt> but I can't make out a difference now tbh
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> discuss this in the discuss channel please
[10:41] <lapion> need many duplicate libraries for each app that is compiled with a different library version then local
[10:42] <lapion> but anyhow..
[10:42] <lapion> I have a system that has some non-raided hdd partitions mounted with the option stripe=32K should this not be set to 0 ?
[10:42] <gitShrekt> well, it's a security thing I guess. do snaps pool libraries
[10:42] <lapion> I purge snap on every system I installed till now
[10:42] <lapion> 18.04 also has snaps at install now
[10:42] <oerheks> non-raided hdd partitions mounted with the option stripe=32K ... why that option??
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> lapion: save the discussions for #ubuntu-discuss
[10:46] <lapion> oerheks, thats the way i found it..
[10:46] <lapion> Can it be that is used for cache-raid with ssd ?
[10:47] <lapion> lotuspsychje, I will stop the discussion in here..
[10:50] <oerheks> stripe and non raid make no sense..if it works, leave it?
[10:57] <lapion> oerheks, apparantly its the default for ubuntu 18.04.4
[10:57] <oerheks> i hope not..
[11:00] <lapion> oerheks, it's set on 2 systems that where upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04(.4)
[11:00] <lapion> but not on a freshly installed 14.08.(3/4)
[11:02] <oerheks> someone did that, it is not custom to add raid options to just a bunch of disks
[11:05] <lapion> oerheks, it's on every system I upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04
[11:06] <lapion> But not on systems that installed with 18.04.4 iso
[11:07] <lapion> oerheks, can that be a reason for a system to slow to start stuttering when writing much data ?
[11:11] <lapion> oerheks, what's even worse is that there is no stripe option in fstab, and the option is only set for ext4fs filesystems mounted at boot.
[11:11] <lapion> oerheks, each filesystems has a differen value in the 32K range..
[11:22] <lapion>  
[11:23] <openface> -=l a p i o n=-
[11:23] <openface> :)
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:38] <RougeR> hey
[12:05] <RougeR> is there any point creating /boot or /tmp or /swap on ubuntu 20.04? 120gb ssd, 500gb ssd
[12:06] <RougeR> ive got a 30gb /root and a 80gb /home, then im going to sym link media dirs to the hdd
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> RougeR: i always use auto partitioning on ssd
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | RougeR see also
[12:07] <RougeR> thanks lotuspsychje
[12:07] <RougeR> will look
[12:08] <RougeR> i might copy over /home from my laptop lotuspsychje and felt it might make system more robust as well
[12:08] <RougeR> so perhaps just a root and home partition on ssd
[12:11] <ice9> is it safe to install php7 from PPA on Ubuntu 14.04 or i might end up with problems?
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> !crosspost | ice9
[12:12] <ice9> sorry
[12:13] <ducasse> !eol | ice9 14.04 is eol
[12:48] <Paddy_NI> Is there a less obnoxious way of creating an ext4 partition on another drive that my user can write to?  I mean less obnoxious as every time a format or create a new ext4 partition I don't want to have to edit fstab.
[12:55] <guiverc> Paddy_NI, I prefer fstab myself, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[12:56] <GizmoRomick> I am trying to troubleshoot an occasional lockup issue on my desktop.  It happens approx every 2 days.  I looked up the last minute of the syslog before the crash, but don't see anything in common.  Am I going about my troubleshooting the best way?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> GizmoRomick: wuch ubuntu version please?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> *wich
[12:57] <GizmoRomick> well....PopOS 19.10
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> we only support ubuntu and its flavours here GizmoRomick sorry
[12:58] <GizmoRomick> ok, no problem
[12:58] <sixwheeledbeast> Paddy_NI: I have always used the standard method, I do believe gnome-disks supports this as a GUI
[13:03] <Paddy_NI> sixwheeledbeast, Oh! this is exciting..
[13:06] <Paddy_NI> sixwheeledbeast, What do I do to make that partition/disk writable in Gnome Disks? I am a little bit lost to be honest
[13:06] <sixwheeledbeast> Paddy_NI: Never used it but i believe it has that functionality if you use the cog wheel on the partition you need to add to fstab?
[13:09] <Paddy_NI> sixwheeledbeast, I just reformatted it using Gnome Disks as it did not prompt for sudo password and sure enough it has created an ext4 partition writable by my user
[13:09] <Paddy_NI> Awesome
[13:09] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[13:10] <Paddy_NI> BluesKaj, As you said regarding running gparted as user ^
[13:10] <sixwheeledbeast> np
[13:10] <Paddy_NI> Thank you sixwheeledbeast
[13:28] <captainfantastic> Hello guys. Does current 20.04 daily build have Gnome 3.36?
[13:30] <geirha> Ask #ubuntu+1 about upcoming releases
[13:49] <sumagna> hello
[13:50] <sumagna> i am making a python script which sends me notifications about gmail if a new mail comes
[13:51] <sumagna> i am sending native notifications using notify-send
[13:51] <sumagna> i want those notifications to be clickable(when i click it, it should open my mail in a browser)
[13:52] <sumagna> how can i do that?
[13:52] <ixxie> Hello folks; anybody know where I can find an ubuntu 18.04 server image for virtualbox?
[13:54] <geirha> sumagna: add an <a href="..."> in the message, perhaps
[13:56] <tomreyn> ixxie: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[13:57] <sumagna> okay
[13:57] <sumagna> i am going to try that now
[13:57] <sumagna> couldnt make it work
[13:57] <sumagna> could you give me the skeleton of the notify-send command geirha
[13:57] <sumagna> ?
[14:01] <sumagna> geirha: how to do that what you mentioned?
[14:03] <ixxie> thanks tomreyn
[14:11] <lovetruth> hello
[14:12] <lovetruth> for a new ubuntu server that will be installing right away, which will be hosting sites using cpanel (I´ll migrate one website actually today)... would you recommend installing and using directly ubuntu 20.04 (beta) already or just stick (yet) with 18.04 ?...
[14:12] <lovetruth> I can see the official release date for 20.04 is 23rd of April
[14:13] <Woet> since when does cPanel support anything non-RHEL based?
[14:14] <sixwheeledbeast> lovetruth: just install 18.04
[14:15] <Woet> and why would anyone recommend installing a beta version on a production server?
[14:15] <sixwheeledbeast> its been a common question for the past month or so
[14:15] <sixwheeledbeast> always seems to be the way when a new LTS is due for some reason
[14:19] <theborger> ok i need a bit of help.  i have 2 built in nics and also a pcie 2 port nic installed.  I have the 2 internal nics in a bond and same with the pcie nic card.  The problem is the internal nic keeps dropping out. i will just loose connection to the server.  about 30ish seconds later the network comes back up.   I have looked through dmesg and i am not seeing anything to point to the issue. I really need help
[14:19] <theborger> with this please
[14:23] <tomreyn> theborger: ubuntu version, kernel version, architecture, hardware, network configuration details, how are you testing?
[14:26] <theborger> Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS,  Dell T610, Internal nics are Broadcom, PCIE is Intel.   My SSH session will drop out and my Samba shares disappear
[14:26] <theborger> kernel   4.15.0-96-generic
[14:28] <tomreyn> does iDRAC6 provide a system / hardware event log?
[14:28] <tomreyn> if so, make sure you check it.
[14:29] <theborger> https://termbin.com/u255
[14:29] <theborger> bonding setup ^^^
[14:31] <tomreyn> when you say your SSH connection drops and samba shares disappear - what else is between the system you're seeing this on and the server?
[14:31] <tomreyn> and have you ruled out that those are cuasing the issue, and how?
[14:33] <theborger> i have an HP switch inline between the server and other hardware.  Not really ruled it out, ill have to move it to another switch.  The network cables have been switched out 3 times. Also i installed another pcie network card and updated the config and that one dropped out also
[14:34] <theborger> i need to get a cable out for the idrac card. i have it out of my rack testing trying to figure out what is causing this
[14:34] <sumagna> geirha: are you there?
[14:35] <theborger> its just odd i installed a new pcie card and the problem moved over to that card also
[14:35] <sumagna> can you please tell me how to make clickable notifications?
[14:40] <Halcyforn> hello  i have hp pavilion 9500 with athlon x2 1,8 ghz and geoforce 7150m 2 gb ram. will ubuntu mate work on this or better chose another version of system, must be easy in use.
[14:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hey! I have a problem with ubuntu 19.10, The wifi disconects after sometime if the system is locked. It doesn't connect back even after logging back in untill I restart the system.. Is this a known bug?
[14:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> Halcyforn: Lubuntu would be a bettter option for your system,
[14:42] <Halcyforn> one more thing about ubuntu systems is there easy option to change languages ?
[14:43] <tomreyn> theborger: mii-monitor-interval should be higher, try 100.
[14:43] <Halcyforn> normaly i dont need this but laptop is for russian speaking people.
[14:43] <theborger> tomreyn: what shold it be?
[14:43] <tomreyn> theborger: 1 = every milliscond
[14:43] <tomreyn> theborger: "try 100"
[14:43] <theborger> tomreyn: ok chaning it now
[14:44] <theborger> do i need to restart the network after the update?
[14:45] <tomreyn> theborger: you need to netplan apply, i would think
[14:46] <theborger> tomreyn: done
[14:46] <theborger> blah what is the command to check netplan before apply?
[14:46] <theborger> i always forget that command
[14:48] <s_> so i noticed a lot of guides recommend using a ppa for ansible. is there something like ansible that ubuntu favors more?
[14:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> here's the bug report for my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1872308
[14:54] <tomreyn> s_: ansible in ubuntu, i guess.
[14:54] <tomreyn> theborger: netplan apply does a syntax check before trying to apply your changes.
[14:55] <tomreyn> theborger: on a side note, there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:55] <sumagna>  how to fix that wifi disabling?
[14:56] <s_> tomreyn: sometimes when everybody recommends a ppa it means that the dev cycles of a package are too fast and break compatibility a lot, so curious if this is the case. Of course that doesn't make a ton of sense, since Redhat sponsors ansible and they are certainly not quick with their releases...
[14:57] <s_> netplan is cool, although depending on your needs i find i a little half-baked still
[14:58] <theborger> tomreyn: yes netplan apply is the cmd i was thinking of.  tomreyn I have asked this question in #ubuntu-server before did not receive much assistance. So figured i would try in here
[15:00] <tomreyn> theborger: #ubuntu-server may get you more qualified replies during UK business days (but then i don't know when you asked).
[15:01] <tomreyn> theborger: reading bug 1745597 i'm no longer sure that increasing the mii check interval is strictly needed. but it should be a good test case.
[15:02] <theborger> tomreyn: thanks for the help.  Ill keep a look on it see what happens i just dont know what else to do
[15:02] <tomreyn> theborger: (temporarily) replacing the switch would be on top of my to do list.
[15:03] <tomreyn> theborger: inspect the NIC stats, too, if you haven't
[15:03] <theborger> tomreyn: i have another switch i been meaning to put in place of the HP. so i guess ill just get off my butt and do it :D
[15:04] <tomreyn> ip -s l
[15:05] <theborger> tomreyn: you want the output of that cmd?
[15:05] <theborger> or just for me to check on when it goes down?
[15:06] <tomreyn> theborger: do the interfaces go down actually according to journalctl / syslog? what you said so far sounded like they don't
[15:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> @lotuspsychje: scroll up ^^
[15:08] <theborger> tomreyn: no they do not go down in syslog
[15:09] <tomreyn> theborger: so you may already have relevant statistics now. feel free to share, or not, up to you. ;)
[15:09] <tomreyn> ideally you'll know how to interpret them.
[15:10] <Aleric> Hi. I installed a local nameserver.  How can I get my box to start using 127.0.0.1 as nameserver?
[15:16] <Aleric> Hmm, my /etc/resolv.conf --> /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
[15:16] <Aleric> It seems that what I need is that it points to /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf
[15:16] <Aleric> How to change it from the stub-* one to the resolve.conf one?
[15:20] <tomreyn> please read the resolv.conf(5) man page and the /ETC/RESOLV.CONF section in systemd-resolved.service(8)
[15:20] <Aleric> I already did that
[15:21] <Aleric> This guy has basically the same problem: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/548830/whats-the-difference-between-run-systemd-resolve-stub-resolv-conf-and-run-sys
[15:21] <Aleric> No answer though :(
[15:22] <Aleric> That is, he just manually changed the symlink. Is that the idea?
[15:29] <tomreyn> Aleric: if you have the resolver listening on 127.0.0.1:53 (only) then you'll need to ensure that /etc/resolv.conf (or the symlink it points to) will point to this ip address.
[15:30] <tomreyn> by default it points to 127.0.0.53
[15:30] <Aleric> The question is, should one change this symlink manually? Or is there another/better way to manage this mode of operation of systemd-resolved?
[15:35] <tomreyn> i think /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf is a default configuration, a template so to say, and /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf is one which has dynamic changes, such as a result of network link specific configurations.
[15:36] <tomreyn> your easiest option is probably to remove the symlink and use a static file
[15:38] <ferz> Hi
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> welcome ferz
[15:46] <ferz> I've a trouble with 19.10 and gnome dia: it doesn't open menu using mouse buttons.
[15:47] <ferz> How can I fix it?  I've tried using "apt remove dia ; apt install dia"
[15:48] <ferz> but the new installation doesn't open menu as the previous version.
[15:49] <ferz> I've not such menu problem with other applications that I use.
[16:10] <tds> Aleric / tomreyn: see the "Four modes of handling /etc/resolv.conf"... section of the systemd-resolve man page for details on those files
[16:10] <tds> but you'd probably want to configure resolved to forward directly to 127.0.0.1, or remove resolved entirely
[16:11] <tds> if you do skip resolved, keep in mind you may need to modify /etc/nsswitch.conf, as some systems will have applications talk directly to resolved via dbus rather than using dns to 127.0.0.53
[16:13] <Aleric> That man page does not say how to change between those modes.
[16:13] <Aleric> tds: ^^
[16:14] <tds> just point the symlink at the right file
[16:14] <tds> or modify it yourself as you like (without a symlink) and resolved will read it
[16:21] <Iroshan> What's the more quality version of Ubuntu? The regular release or the LTS? I know that the LTS has longer support than the regular release but if I was using the LTS I would be upgrade every two years anyways to the latest LTS. I just want to find out what's the more professional or the version with better quality. The most polished version and the one that's best supported for software development.
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Iroshan
[16:23] <Iroshan> ok
[17:02] <H3dn1ng> lotuspsychje: I got a 9900K and SSD, it shouldn't be this slow to start snaps. I hope it's improved in 20.04. :)
[17:05] <Halcyforn> sorry for stupid question maybe someone know what layout use russians
[17:05] <Halcyforn> i must add to system and i dont know what chose
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> !ru | Halcyforn maybe the channel knows
[17:10] <Groar> !paste
[17:11] <theborger> https://i.imgur.com/bGY7UBl.jpg
[17:13] <brahmana> Hi all.. I have a Acer Aspite E5-575 laptop. I had installed Ubuntu on that. Only Ubuntu, no dual boot. Yesterday at some point it suddenly turned off and hasn't been able to boot since then.
[17:14] <brahmana> BIOS shows that HDD is detected. While booting it gives me an option to boot into AcerLinux (a recovery OS) or enter the grub command line.
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> theborger: not here please
[17:15] <brahmana> Seeing that the HDD is detected I thought the MBR is corrupted and tried to boot from the grub command line. But no avail. I am getting a "Double Free error"
[17:15] <pavlos> brahmana: disk failure? can you fsck the disk?
[17:15] <theborger> tds: sorry wrong room my fault
[17:16] <theborger> lotuspsychje: ^
[17:16] <brahmana> pavlos: from grub command line?
[17:16] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[17:17] <pavlos> brahmana: there is a mismatch in efi ... follow Jordan_U's advice
[17:18] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Tried that too. The system doesn't go to the live USB directly. It goes through the regular options of AcerLinux or Grub. Then in grub when I get the "Double Free error" it says "Press any key to exit". On pressing I get the grub screen for the USB
[17:18] <brahmana> On choosing any of the 4 options here, it is a blank screen.
[17:18] <brahmana> I can share photos of the screen to better illustrate what I am talking about.
[17:19] <Jordan_U> brahmana: I'm wondering if you have faulty RAM.
[17:19] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Does your boot firmware have a memory test?
[17:20] <brahmana> Jordan_U: From BIOS settings screen? I can check
[17:21] <brasilino> Hi! this might be a FAQ I can't find the answer but, how can I file a bug for a project in launchpad? I can't see any way to do it! https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr
[17:23] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Also, doesn't a faulty RAM usually give a beeping sound?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> brasilino: for ppa's you need to contact the maintainer directly, we can only support the official packages from the ubuntu repos
[17:24] <brasilino> lotuspsychje: I did that already, thanks. I was wondering if there's a 'Report a Bug' link somewhere to his ppa that I couldn't find
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> brasilino: on ubuntu, we advice to use 'ubuntu-bug packagename'
[17:25] <Jordan_U> brahmana: RAM can start failing by simply not storing / retrieving bits correctly. When that happens you get unpredictable results.
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> brasilino: but for ppa's, you might need to manual way from launchpad
[17:33] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Ok.. Could not find any memory test option. Memory of 8GB is detected. Some photos of the screen here : https://imgur.com/a/TncKRAx
[17:35] <ioria> brahmana, consider that Acer has a special UEFI configuration; you need to set a supervisor password  to be able to change it; in addition sometimes  you also need to add manually the grubx64.efi  entry
[17:35] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Instead of that, try "configfile (hd1,2)/boot/grub/grub.cfg".
[17:37] <brahmana> ioria: That is true. I wasn't able to access some sections of the BIOS and it asked me to enter supervisor password. I did not know what that was.
[17:37] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Instead of the `linuxefi` command?
[17:37] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Yes.
[17:38] <brahmana> Trying
[17:38] <Jordan_U> brahmana: And just for future reference, grub's naming for devices is different than linux's. The root= on the linuxefi line is passed to and interpreted by the linux kernel, so it needs to be something like root=UUID=YOUR_ROOT_FILEYSTEM_UUID_HERE or root=/dev/sdXY , not root=(hd1,2).
[17:42] <brahmana> Jordan_U: oh.. ! I will remember that.
[17:42] <brahmana> Jordan_U: That command is now giving me 4 options : Ubuntu, Advanced options for Ubuntu, memtest86+, memtest86+, serial console 115200
[17:44] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Before that it showed "initrd not found. Press any key to continue". On pressing a key it showed me these 4 options.
[17:44] <Thibv> Hello !
[17:45] <Jordan_U> brahmana: You're booted via UEFI, so the memtest options aren't going to work (I'm surprised they're showing up). Try "Ubuntu".
[17:46] <Thibv> I've changed the cells of my laptop battery, but now the autonomy is wrong. Do you know a way to 'reset' battery manager ? I've already tried to flully charge/discharge my battery with my computer ON. And there's no option in my bios
[17:50] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Doesn't work. Gives me "can't find command 'linux'"  "can't find command 'initrd'"
[17:50] <brahmana> Screenshots are here : https://imgur.com/a/7148cd3
[17:51] <Jordan_U> brahmana: I think that what's happening is that you installed Ubuntu via CSM (BIOS emulation), and are now booting via UEFI.
[17:52] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Ok, I am not proficient enough with that. What would I have done to install Ubuntu via CSM? (To see if I can recollect something)
[17:53] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Did you buy this computer new or from someone else?
[17:53] <brahmana> New computer.
[17:53] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Did you make any changes to boot firmware ("BIOS") settings before installing Ubuntu?
[17:55] <brahmana> Jordan_U: No, do not recollect having done anything like that. It was installed using a Live USB. Almost 2 years back. Has been updated couple of times since then
[17:57] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Very odd. It's possible that when you first booted the Ubuntu LiveUSB your boot firmware noticed that it could be booted via UEFI or BIOS and offered you both options, and you chose BIOS / CSM. That's the most reasonable explanation that I can think of, but still doesn't totally make sense.
[17:57] <brahmana> Jordan_U: What would have made my system go through UEFI now all of a sudden? And what do  I get it booting?
[17:57] <brahmana> Jordan_U: oh ok...
[17:58] <Aryan> https://imgur.com/a/C8HPigz
[17:58] <Aryan> Everything repeats twice
[17:59] <saidi> Is Snapcrafters publisher in snap an official account but canonical?
[18:00] <Jordan_U> brahmana: It's possible that your cmos battery came loose a little bit and lost configuration, and your boot firmware reverted to its default settings. Still some parts of that that don't make sense, but it's the best I've got at the moment.
[18:00] <Jordan_U> brahmana: If you configure your boot firmware to boot via BIOS / CSM (Compatability Support Module) I think it will boot fine.
[18:01] <brahmana> Jordan_U: That would be "Legacy" boot mode option?
[18:01] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Yes.
[18:01] <brahmana> Ok trying that
[18:02] <LordDragon> hey all
[18:02] <LordDragon> id like to initiate a bash shell via a serial port
[18:03] <LordDragon> ive read about the "screen" command, but while it does seem to allow typing back and forth between PC and remote computer via serial port, there is no actual shell
[18:03] <LordDragon> maybe im missing the right parameters to spawn a shell?
[18:06] <brahmana> Jordan_U: That worked.. !! (Although there were a couple of tense moments with a purple and a black blank screen)
[18:06] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Thank you very much. Can't thank you enough.. !
[18:08] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Great! If you ever re-install Ubuntu I recommend you disable legacy boot before doing so. It's also possible to switch to UEFI booting without re-installing, but if you're not having any other issues it's probably not worth it.
[18:08] <badsektur> how do i tell if i am bionic?
[18:09] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal.
[18:10] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Will keep that in mind. Btw, how did you deduce the BIOS / UEFI conundrum?
[18:11] <Aryan> My boot time takes 1:30 min. Is it strange
[18:11] <Aryan> ?
[18:12] <pavlos> Aryan: systemd-analyze blame | head -10 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:13] <Jordan_U> brahmana: The fact that you had a "linuxefi" command in your grub shell told me that you were booted via UEFI. The fact that you had a memtest option in your installed grub.cfg was the first hint that your installed Ubuntu was configured to boot via BIOS. The fact that your installed grub.cfg tried to use the command "linux" rather than "linuxefi" confirmed that.
[18:13] <brahmana> Jordan_U: lsb_release -a gives this : https://imgur.com/a/wcDfVEe . It says Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS "No LSB modules are avilable"
[18:14] <Jordan_U> brahmana: Oh sorry, that command was actually meant for badsektur .
[18:14] <Jordan_U> badsektur: Run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal.
[18:15] <brahmana> Jordan_U: Oh nice. Actually before trying linuxefi I did try just linux (linuxefi was in fact from a stackoverflow answer). That too failed. I believe that failed because the root= was given in grub style and linux style
[18:15] <ioria> brahmana, run  'sudo parted -l '    and check if you ghave an efi partition
[18:16] <brahmana> Jordan_U: no worries..
[18:16] <brahmana> ioria: One moment please, I just rebooted to make sure it is all good..
[18:17] <brahmana> But I think I do have an EFI partition (from what I remember from the cfdisk screen).
[18:18] <brahmana> Jordan_U: So in the grub screen when I tried the linux command, if I had used the right value for root= it should have booted, right?
[18:19] <brahmana> Or would it still not have worked because the system started from UEFI to start with?
[18:21] <brahmana> ioria: Yes I do. A 1GB fat32 partition with boot,esp flags.
[18:22] <ioria> brahmana,  i think you installed in efi mode and something else has gone boom
[18:23] <brahmana> ioria: Oh.. ! Anyway to further probe this?
[18:23] <ioria> brahmana,  it's not about ubuntu, it'a about your bios
[18:24] <brahmana> ioria: Or would your earlier suggestion of flagging the EFI file as trusted allow me to boot via UEFI?
[18:24] <ioria> brahmana,  probably, but maybe not wise
[18:25] <brahmana> ioria: Ok.. will not mess with it unless I face any issues.
[18:25] <ioria> brahmana,  right
[18:27] <pablod> Hey there, I just joined to ask for help with a problem of access to a laptop with encrypted home partition.
[18:27] <pablod> is there someone willing to help me out?
[18:28] <brahmana> ioria: Cool. Thank you.
[18:28] <ioria> brahmana,  no prob
[18:28] <snowdin> pablod: what's the specific issue you're having?
[18:30] <pablod> the laptop of my wife is not booting anymore (some error about lvmetad). the problem seems to be, that the root partition with home on it is 100% full
[18:31] <pablod> i am on a live-usb-drive now, but am not able to get to the encrypted home files - to delete some and hopefully make it boot again
[18:32] <pablod> the encryption method seems to be ecryptfs
[18:32] <blackhole> I am running Ubuntu 18.04, I recently resized my root partition, after which I started getting fsck errors on boot, it would say gave up on waiting, I ran through my live usb and ran fsck on my root partition (/dev/sdf7), it fixed all errors, but after reboot I still get errors, if I try running fsck -fn in my Ubuntu install it shows error
[18:32] <blackhole> can someone help?
[18:33] <snowdin> pablod: I googled a bit and the solution seems to be what you're doing right now
[18:33] <blackhole> here is error I get while running fsck -fn (https://pastebin.com/CTKcSpQb)
[18:33] <snowdin> pablod: why aren't you able to decrypt the partition?
[18:35] <pablod> I am not very skilled and only understand a tiny bit of what I was doing. I tried to follow this german tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ecryptfs/Datenrettung/
[18:35] <blackhole> I used gparted to resize my root partition, had some extra swap space that I used to extend root partition ..
[18:37] <blackhole> Anyone?
[18:37] <snowdin> pablod: you're on a live usb now right?
[18:38] <pablod> yep
[18:38] <snowdin> have you tried accessing the partion from the file manager?
[18:38] <snowdin> from my experiences it usually prompts for a decryption password then I can access it
[18:41] <pablod> @snowdin. Well, I'll try again - but I think that didn't work in the first place.
[18:41] <snowdin> blackhole: imo touching the root partition doesn't bring much good
[18:42] <snowdin> blackhole: if you screw up then it's best to backup and reinstall if you can rather than fix the errors
[18:42] <snowdin> pablod: Good luck
[18:43] <blackhole> snowdin, hmm
[18:43] <blackhole> snowdin, Any good tutorial on how to backup & get things back as is it?
[18:44] <blackhole> snowdin, I don't want to have to reinstall all packages etc
[18:44] <pablod> okay, now I got it again. one problem is - that I tried to mount the /dev/sda3 to /mnt which doesn't work because of the unknown system type LVM2_member
[18:46] <snowdin> blackhole: I'd suggest using a live usb system, mount your home directory and do the backup
[18:46] <snowdin> blackhole: as far as I know, packages are gonna have to be re-installed
[18:47] <blackhole> snowdin, I doubt that will bring back ubuntu with all packages I have installed?
[18:47] <blackhole> hmm
[18:47] <blackhole> snowdin, anyway to supress running fsck on reboot, I don't think there is any true corruption, I would rather keep going as long as I can supress fsck run on boot, it just takes a long time otherwsie?
[18:49] <pablod> in all my trial and error attempts this morning I only managed to mount it in /mnt/encr
[18:51] <pablod> if i click on the /home/USER/ folder there are only two files access-your-private-data.desktop and readme.txt
[18:51] <pablod> also hidden folder .private and .ecryptfs
[18:53] <snowdin> pablod: this might help https://askubuntu.com/questions/71708/how-do-i-open-access-your-private-data-desktop#71719
[18:55] <snowdin> blackhole: I'm no expert at this. If you really can't re-install, then waiting for someone competent or keep searching for a solution is your best bet.
[18:59] <pablod> @snowdin thanks, I tried the ecryptfs-mount-private but I get the error "encrypted private directory is not setup properly"
[19:04] <Aleric> blackhole: If you don't want to try and salvage any data first, but just want to "keep going" and investigate the damage after a reboot - then you will have to repair the file system first.
[19:05] <Aleric> Aka, boot a live disk and then run fsck on your root, but not in ro mode - but to actually let it fix it.
[19:05] <Aleric> Then mount it and inspect if you can still boot with it (aka, if /boot looks ok etc).
[19:09] <thumbfinger> Anything I need to be aware of or research before updating my kernel from 5.3.0 to 5.6.3 (Both Canonical-provided, using Ukuu)
[19:09] <ducasse> thumbfinger: mainline kernels are intended for testing, not regular use
[19:09] <thumbfinger> I'm using a Stoney Ridge device, which is not fully compatible with 5.3.0, not sure how much better 5.6.3 is, though
[19:09] <IamJacks> Anyone here runnng ubuntu on a pi4? Last time it tried the wireless was a little flaky - wondering if it has improved
[19:10] <Aleric> Linux sean 5.6.3-lowlatlocxhci #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 12 12:05:11 CEST 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:10] <snowdin> pablod: I found this detailed guide after digging a bit. Hope it helps. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Long_way
[19:10] <Aleric> I am just running that kernel, on ubuntu 18.04 - nothing special was needed.
[19:11] <Aleric> thumbfinger: Oh.. actually, virtual box will stop working.
[19:11] <Aleric> But that is the only thing as far as I know.
[19:11] <pablod> that looks great. Thanks. I will dig into it
[19:12] <Aleric> That is, the compilation of the kernel modules of virtualbox fail because they don't support this kernel yet. But if you ignore the error then there is no problem.
[19:13] <tomreyn> pablod: look into migrating off ecryptfs, it's not well supported these days.
[19:13] <thumbfinger> This machine is less powerful than a RaspberryPi.  I think I can live without VirtualBox
[19:15] <pablod> tomreyn: I'll certainly do. Realized it during my research
[19:16] <thumbfinger> IamJacks I am running it on my Pi4, no issues.
[19:20] <Aleric> MmmOkay... I installed a new harddisk... now how do I find it, lol.
[19:21] <tomreyn>  /dev/disk/by-id
[19:22] <Aleric> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 apr 12 16:44 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD80EFAX-68KNBN0_VDHSH7AD -> ../../sdc
[19:32] <Aleric> Hmmpf, so you buy a 8 TB disk and then you get 7.28 TB :\
[19:33] <thumbfinger> 8TB -> 7.28TiB most likely
[19:33] <Aleric> TiB actually, whatever that...
[19:33] <Aleric> yeah, but but
[19:34] <Aleric> Is that 'i' worth 25 euro? :)
[19:34] <thumbfinger> You paid it
[19:35] <Aleric> k, so... 1.024^4 * 7.28 = 8
[19:35] <shoenig> correct
[19:36] <Aleric> Man, I always have such a hard time deciding how large my partitions need to be. And then others say: just make one big partition! :/
[19:37] <oerheks> ubuntu does that, standard.
[19:37] <oerheks> swapfile, not a partition.
[19:38]  * Aleric reads https://serverfault.com/a/629479/388023
[19:40] <Aleric> Point 2 there is the reason that I do it: often some rogue application starts filling the disk with gigabytes of log file... That never stops me from using the machine, or rebooting. Because that doesn't happen on all partitions at the same time, but only on the one containing that log.
[19:41] <thumbfinger> Yeah, "log files"
[19:41] <thumbfinger> Happens all the time, you computer all of the sudden goes to a crawl because you've got too many "log files"
[19:42] <gendarme> hi, I would like to reboot my pc into recovery mode since I have forgotten my password. I am on ubuntu 19.04 and I cannot access the grub menu. It boots right into ubuntu really quickly.
[19:42] <gendarme> is there something to be done from a live linux usb?
[19:42] <Aleric> That doesn't happen to me thus, thumbfinger. So - out the window that one-large-partition idea.
[19:42] <oerheks> gendarme, hold shift at boot, or esc ?
[19:42] <oerheks> !grub
[19:45] <ioria> gendarme, 1 ) 19.04 is dead 2) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[19:46] <gendarme> oerheks, thanks. esc or shift does not work, I may have to continue for support on #grub
[19:46] <gendarme> those just seem to alternate showing the systemd startup or ubuntu splash
[19:46] <gendarme> ok, I will try the live cd also
[19:47] <oerheks> gendarme, or force the menu, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=-1  ( and run sudo update-grub )
[20:12] <Halcyforn> ubuntu and lubuntu have the same drivers ?
[20:12] <luna_> yeah
[20:13] <Halcyforn> ok i have lubuntu now its second linux, and i cant turn on wi-fi card
[20:13] <Halcyforn> can i check if driver is installed or not
[20:13] <Halcyforn> this is broadcom wi fi card
[20:14] <Halcyforn> lspci show me i have broadcom
[20:14] <TJ-> Halcyforn: show us the output of "lspci -nnk -d ::0280"
[20:14] <Halcyforn> i think how
[20:15] <Halcyforn> can be photo ?
[20:15] <TJ-> Halcyforn: well, all we need really is the hex numbers in the square brackets [XXXX:YYYY] at the end of the line
[20:17] <Halcyforn> 14e4:4312
[20:17] <forgotmynick> i'm trying to run redis under a specific user by copying the systemd scripts etc and i notice that it briefly waits for a moment with systemd-tty-ask-password-agent and then fails. how do i prevent this from happening please?
[20:18] <Halcyforn> wifi card bcm4311
[20:18] <Halcyforn> hmm there is scond numer
[20:19] <Halcyforn> 103c:1371 ok i give photo
[20:20] <TJ-> Halcyforn: ha, strange, the first is an SSB not sure why it reports the wireless network device class!
[20:20] <aaaardvark__> I know how to set the PS1 shell variable  to change my prompt at the shell and even from the .profile or .bashrc file - is there anyway I can change this variable from within a script that may be executed by the shell?
[20:23] <TJ-> Halcyforn: in a terminal try: "ubuntu-drivers devices" - that should tell you what drivers are available for non-mainline supported hardware
[20:25] <Halcyforn> https://imgur.com/a/J74Bjiu
[20:29] <Halcyforn> hmmm this is joke no network console tools ....
[20:30] <TJ-> !info firmware-b43-installer | Halcyforn  you may need this
[20:31] <nikolam> This stupid "Parole" player (called to play locally downloaded podcasts from gpodder) now has a buggy scroll for the time, e.g. button that is supposed to position itself at a current time in a 57-minute audio file, position itself till the end after less then minute to the end i Parole player.
[20:31] <Halcyforn> how to download this i must download on this laptop and move on usb stick to this old hp
[20:31] <nikolam> Theis is new behavior in Xubuntu 19.10
[20:33] <TJ-> !info apt-offline | Halcyforn
[20:35] <nikolam> and now I dounle-clicked on Parole player's playlist and restarted playback and now progress button seems in the right place now.. huh
[20:42] <Halcyforn> ok when installation en i try this
[21:19] <halcyforn> shit
[21:19] <halcyforn> wi fi stil ndont work
[21:22] <lupulo> halcyforn, which wifi card do you have?
[21:22] <lupulo> halcyforn, perhaps it requires a firmware
[21:22] <lupulo> not only the module of the kernel
[21:23] <halcyforn> ok i try this program to drivers tethering on usb wire work
[21:25] <halcyforn> broadcom bcm4311 802 a/b/g
[21:26] <halcyforn> ok restart
[21:33] <halcyforn> still dont work
[21:37] <Bashing-om> !info bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:40] <halcyforn> now i try one thing something with apt purge
[21:41] <halcyforn> ok next restart
[21:42] <TJ-> halcyforn: restarts aren't required, just module loads
[21:58] <darkenvy> test
[22:10] <weq> Hi, anyone have a decent cli tool to convert HEIV to PNG?
[22:37] <Rozha> hallo some one here
[22:38] <Nukecat> here
[22:38] <Rozha> Nukecat i need some help
[22:39] <Rozha> rozha@estonia:/$ irssi
[22:39] <Rozha> ** (irssi:2108): ERROR **: 22:34:11.447: Couldn't create /home/rozha/.irssi dirctory: Permission denied
[22:39] <Rozha> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[22:39] <Nukecat> ?
[22:39] <Rozha> and
[22:39] <Rozha> Apr 12 22:36:04 estonia systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
[22:39] <Rozha> Apr 12 22:36:04 estonia systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache HTTP Server.
[22:39] <Nukecat> idk
[22:39] <Nukecat> :/
[22:39] <Rozha> ?
[22:45] <tomekjozwik> Rozha: can you show apache2 log?
[22:47] <TJ-> Rozha: for the first, sounds like you've managed to change the owner of the $HOME directory, check with "ls -latr $HOME" - anything not owned by your $USER is a fault
[22:47] <TJ-> Rozha: for apache, review the /var/log/apache2/error.log or others (depending on how you've configured it)
[22:49] <Rozha> there now text
[22:49] <Rozha> i just run apt install apache2
[22:50] <TJ-> Rozha: apache2 is a complex server service; installing is not enough, you need to know how to configure it
[22:51] <Rozha> i began to install
[22:51] <Rozha> ommand 'lpr' from deb cups-bsd (2.2.12-2ubuntu1)
[22:51] <Rozha> command 'lpr' from deb lpr (1:2008.05.17.3)
[22:51] <Rozha> command 'lpr' from deb lprng (3.8.B-2.2)
[22:51] <Rozha> command 'pr' from deb coreutils (8.30-3ubuntu2)
[22:51] <Rozha> command 'gpr' from deb gpr (0.15deb-2build1)
[22:51] <Rozha> command 'cpr' from deb node-cpr (2.0.0-2)
[23:31] <samthewildone> if I suspend a program in the background via cmd with "cntrl+z", does the application keep running or is it completely halted ?
[23:35] <lupulo> samthewildone, you could know it with ps aux | grep program_name
[23:37] <ule> Hey guys, I've got an external USB disk here which is my previous main hard disk. It was encrypted with the default Ubuntu 14 (I believe) while ago. I know the password and I was able to decrypt it and mount in my new laptop via USB
[23:37] <lupulo> samthewildone, you could do "ps aux | grep program_name | awk '{ print $8 }' "
[23:37] <lupulo> samthewildone, that is its state
[23:38] <ule> My question is. How can I disable the FDE (Full Disk Encryption) and make this disk a regular USB disk without any encryption again? I don't mind erasing everything
[23:38] <lupulo> samthewildone, after you go to manual, man ps , search with /PROCESS STATE CODES
[23:39] <lupulo> samthewildone, if it is zombie, it is bad
[23:45] <oerheks> ule, erasing it is.
[23:45] <ule> how, I'd like to just destroy the entire encrypted partition
[23:46] <samthewildone> lupulo, thanks
[23:46] <oerheks> unmount it, and use disks to wipe partition(s) and fill it again
[23:46] <ule> oerheks: Are you sure? When I tried gparted I couldn't even see the encrypted disk propperly
[23:47] <ule> I had to go through the entire "cryptsetup" and luke things be able to see any life on this disk
[23:47] <apb1963> Hello!  16.04 - my screen has an artifact I don't know how to get rid of other than to reboot.  It's a vertical line that goes down the left side of my screen, just slightly past the system menu panel.  Maybe if I were to restart the right service?  I don't know what that is?  lightdm?  X? unity?  Something else?  I can show you with teamviewer or whatever if you like.  Or a screenshot... your choice.
[23:47] <oerheks> did you unmount it first?
[23:48] <lupulo> samthewildone, do you know / is search inside de man, don't you?
[23:48] <apb1963> samthewildone, ^Z puts the process to sleep.  "bg" puts it in the background - where it runs.
[23:48] <ule> oerheks: lemme try
[23:48] <ule> oerheks: If that works, it means I'm looking for a problem that doesn't exist at all
[23:48] <ule> :D
[23:53] <Sven_vB> apb1963, try wmctrl -pGl, do some of the coordinates there look like they might fit the line area? then you can ps the pid
[23:56] <Sven_vB> apb1963, even easier, "xdotool selectwindow getwindowpid" then click that area
[23:58] <apb1963> Sven_vB, Thanks for responding.  These look like they might possibly qualify I think?  https://pastebin.com/yYAGuu4L