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RomanoBonjour tout le monde03:59
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Romanomy english is poor so i'll trie to explain04:00
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bernardohola.... hello04:35
bernardoplease I need your help04:36
bernardoI have xubuntu 18.04.1 and the phyton 3 post-installation crash04:36
bernardocan't install nothing04:37
bernardogive me error in terminal04:37
tomreyncan you show this error?04:37
tomreyn!04:37
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bernardoI  recopilate information wait please04:40
bernardohttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RxyXysvhjP/04:51
bernardoI do'nt how paste, the url have the line command04:52
bernardoalso, I use sudo apt-cache policy hplip     this command give me: hplip:  Instalados: (ninguno)  Candidato:  3.17.10+repack0-5  Tabla de versión:     3.17.10+repack0-5 500        500 http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main i386 Packages04:53
bernardoCan help me please? thank04:54
tomreynsudo dpkg --purge hplip-data04:56
tomreynsudo dpkg --configure -a04:56
tomreynsudo apt update04:56
tomreynsudo apt -f install04:56
tomreynsudo apt install --reinstall hplip hplip-data04:58
tomreynthis is bug 176602004:58
ubottubug 1766020 in hplip (Ubuntu) "package python3 3.6.5-3 failed to install/upgrade: installed python3 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 4" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176602004:58
bernardook, I try, wati05:02
bernardowait05:02
tomreynyou can run   export LANG=C    to get english language command output05:05
tomreyn(it will last until you close this terminal window only)05:06
xu-help50whi05:08
xu-help50wim looking for help in figuring out which version of xubuntu to download 32 or 64 bit05:09
diogenes_xu-help50w, 64 bit is recommended.05:11
bernardomy version is 32bits05:12
bernardothanks for your help, it was solved05:13
bernardoThank you so much05:14
xu-help50wit's an old computer, maybe 15 years05:15
xu-help50wcurrently running windows vista 32 bit, but don't know if that because it couldn't run the 64 bit or because i pressed the wrong button installing it05:17
bernardono, it is a computer from 2 years ago, but the only version of xubuntu that I had on hand was 32 bits05:17
diogenes_xu-help50w, what CPU?05:18
xu-help50wbernardo, i think maybe we're asking the same question here05:18
bernardoamd05:18
xu-help50wintel core 2 duo t730005:19
diogenes_ Intel® 64 ‡ Yes05:20
diogenes_Instruction Set 64-bit05:20
bernardofriends, thanks for your help. Here in Chile it is 1AM, tomorrow I must open my store and I must go to sleep. thanks for your wisdom. good night or day to everyone05:21
diogenes_xu-help50w, your CPU can run 64 bit.05:21
xu-help50wgreat, thank you diogenes_05:22
diogenes_you're welcome.05:22
* ball installs Xubuntu ...again05:54
xu-help27wim running xubuntu from usb. I've just installed webcamoid, but it won't launch. Any advice please?06:00
ballWhat is a webcamoid?06:00
tomreyn!info webcamoid06:01
ubottuPackage webcamoid does not exist in bionic06:01
xu-help27wit's a webcam suite for viewing my camera https://webcamoid.github.io/06:02
tomreynhmm it actually does exist in bionic/universe06:02
ballDoes it need certain specific webcams?06:04
xu-help27won a different computer i'm running ubuntu and it used the inbuilt camera, there's an option to switch if more are available06:05
ballHmm... ok06:06
krytentomreyn: Funnily enough, it worked in PM now.. >_>06:06
tomreynrun it from a terminal, this may provide output hinting on why it wont run06:07
kryten!info webcamoid06:07
ubottuwebcamoid (source: webcamoid): full featured webcam capture application. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.1.0+dfsg-7 (bionic), package size 565 kB, installed size 1154 kB06:07
diogenes_xu-help27w, why not using guvcview?06:07
tomreynkryten: maybe it's the 500 error packages.u.c. keeps throwing on the first non-cached request06:08
tomreynfor a year or so now06:08
xu-help27wliterally just enter the command webcamoid06:08
xu-help27w?06:08
tomreynxu-help27w: probably, yes. i don't know what's the proper command to run it, but it's likely just that06:09
xu-help27wdiogenes_ just because I googled webcam apps and this one was the most reccomended06:09
xu-help27wsegmentation fault (core dumped)06:10
tomreynmaybe this makes it less recommendable06:10
xu-help27wis it because I'm running of usb instead of a fully installed version of xbuntu?06:11
tomreynwhich xubuntu version is this, is it fully updated?06:11
krytentomreyn: Since it doesn't call packages.u.c for this though, but rather use a dedicated APT cache for each version it supports, I'm more thinking the latter was out of date or erroneous or something.06:12
krytenAnyway...06:12
tomreynoh ok06:12
xu-help27wim not ignoring you, trying to figure out version06:13
krytentomreyn: Seems I have more luck than you on using the site though. >_>06:14
ballI should probably leave this installation running overnight.06:15
krytenOvernight delivery! XD06:15
xu-help27wim going to say version 18.04.4 lts06:15
tomreynkryten: hmm i can't seem to trigger any 500's also right now. and the site is unusually fast, too.06:16
tomreynxu-help27w: so is this a proper installation you wrote to a usb stick or is it an installer image written to a usb stick?06:17
xu-help27wi downloaded the .iso and then wrote it to the usb06:18
tomreyni see. you'll better install properly then.06:19
xu-help27wwhy isn't that properly?06:19
xu-help27wi used disk image writer06:20
tomreynit's stuck on the kernel version it was on when it released. software updates only "install" to a RAM disk. if you run out of RAM the file system becomes unreliable.06:20
xu-help27wwhat does that mean?06:21
tomreynthat you should install properly06:21
xu-help27wmy bootable usb has been made incorrectly or I need to dive in and just install to the hard drive?06:22
tomreynyou should use the installer usb stick you created to install to the hard disk or some other (may be removable) storage which you'll then boot off06:22
ballAh if only it would fit on an Iomega Zip disk! ;-)06:23
xu-help27weven this computer isn't old enough for a zip drive06:24
xu-help27wim booting from usb now. Should I restart to install, or can I use the option from within xubuntu?06:24
ballxu-help27w: Does the computer have a hard disk or SSD that you don't mind wiping?06:25
ball(no document files on it)06:25
ball(no photos or important software?)06:25
xu-help27wI was hoping to test that linux was working for me before committing to wipe06:26
xu-help27wcan i upload images here?06:26
tomreyn!screenshot06:27
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xu-help27wno, I want to show you a connector on the laptop so you can tell me what it does so I can find out if i'm correct06:28
ballI think my installation's nearly done!06:28
tomreynso take a photo and uploasd it and post the link to where you uploaded it06:29
* ball predicts it's the laptop's belly button.06:29
tomreynrunning    journalctl -b | grep DMI:    should report which laptop model and firmware you have there06:30
ballThis computer sort of needs a case.06:30
tomreynlooks like you just made a case for a case.06:31
tomreynnow get the ball rolling, ball.06:31
xu-help27whttps://imgur.com/a/IlCLytT06:37
balltomreyn: Can't afford it.06:37
xu-help27wsorry for the delay, computers and i are not friends currently06:37
xu-help27wwhat's the one on the left?06:38
ballLine in?06:38
ballMight be line out, let me check.06:38
xu-help27wwhat kind of line?06:38
tomreynaudio06:38
tomreynall of these three are about audio06:38
ball1V peak-peak analogue audio.06:38
ballthe headphone jack apparently also supports digital out, perhaps optical.06:39
ball(check the manual)06:39
xu-help27wugh, I was hoping i could use it to connect my webcam, which has RCA cables06:39
ballxu-help27w: None of these are video.06:39
xu-help27wah crap!06:40
ballI'm told blue is line in.06:40
ballGreen is supposedly line out but I've seen it used more for headphone and speaker jacks (same concept but different Voltage levels)06:41
ballFor a camera with composite video output, you'd need a video capture card/device with composite video in.06:42
ballWhat sort of camera is it?06:42
ballThe video capture device is likely to cost more than a replacement camera unless you have very special camera needs.06:43
ball(e.g. microscope, night vision, CCTV etc.)06:43
ballDoes your camera have a microphone built in?06:43
xu-help27wsimilar to this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HRO36?tag=httpwwwfuadph-2006:45
xu-help27wyes, it has a microphone06:45
xu-help27wcolour and ir06:45
xu-help27wyou can get cheap video capture things, but not tomorrow. I had hoped to bypass by using another laptop06:46
xu-help27wbut wrong connectors ;(06:46
* ball waits for the page to load...06:47
ball...and waits...06:49
ali1234analog usb video capture is very cheap06:50
ballali1234: I have one beside me but that's PCI iirc.06:50
ballNot sure how well it performs.06:51
xu-help27wfrom an actual store, or just when buying online? I've been quoted $50cad06:51
ali1234china special on ebay will cost you about 10 dollars06:51
xu-help27wbut can't have it tomorrow06:51
ali1234analog capture is always rubbish though06:51
ballali1234: Sometimes it's intentionally rubbish though.06:52
ballStill, you'd plug the yellow cable into your video capture interface and the white one into the left channel channel of the blue connector.06:54
ball...and I think the red there is just to power the camera.06:54
ali1234no06:54
ballYou'd need some video capture software.06:54
ballslickymaster: no what?06:54
ali1234yellow is composite video, red and white are stereo audio06:55
ballali1234: The red shown isn't an RCA jack.06:55
ball...and I doubt it has a stereo mic.06:55
ballrca plug*06:55
ali1234well then, don't try to plug it into a standard capture card06:55
ballali1234: No, that's probably a DC barrel connector06:56
ball(to power the camera)06:56
xu-help27wred is power06:56
* ball nods06:56
* ball tries to remember the EIA/CCIR mono standards...06:56
ali1234https://www.amazon.ca/Capture-Device-Adapter-Converter-Support/dp/B00S7ZELXC/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=usb+video+capture&qid=1586761067&sr=8-1406:58
ballxu-help27w: What country are you in?06:58
xu-help27wcanada06:58
ali1234the same one is $5 on aliexpress06:58
ali1234(USD)06:58
ballali1234: How much is a 400-line USB video capture thinggy these days?07:04
ali1234what do you mean by 400 line?07:04
ballali1234: Captures both fields and presents the computer with one 400-line image per frame (30 per second)07:08
ballYears ago, cheaper models captures one field and threw the other away, resulting in 200-line scans.07:09
ballHopefully those are no longer a thing.07:10
ali1234seems pointles, it would just be doing nothing for one field... probably a USB bandwidth limitation07:10
ball...that and it saved having to buffer both fields.07:11
ali1234i dont know of any that can do true framegrabbing except the domesday duplicator, that costs about $500 and you have to build it yourself07:12
* ball is on the Domesday Discs :-)07:13
xu-help27wwell i'm feeling defeated. thanks for all your help, i'm going to go and cry myself to sleep now07:16
ballCCIR System M.07:16
ballxu-help27w: We're not done with you yet.07:16
ball;-)07:16
ballali1234: Have you seen any USB 3 video capture devices or are they all USB 2?07:19
ali1234yeah, domesday duplicator07:19
ali1234but really that is just a high speed daq07:19
ballTo install a .deb file on Xubuntu, would I just double-click it and follow the software centre's prompts?07:21
* ball tries it.07:21
tomreynideally you'd rather look for an apt repository that's compatible to your xubuntu release and provides this package, and use this repository, so you'll have an upgrade path.07:45
* ball nods07:51
ballIn this case I don't think that was an option but that's ok, it worked.07:51
ballHandy to know for future reference though.07:51
tomreynyou can also    apt install /path/to/packagefile.deb07:52
ballThanks tomreyn07:54
xu-help83wHi everzbodz11:04
victor55Hello is someone here for help please?14:57
TDO|DentonUm depends on the problem :)14:57
diogenes_!ask | victor5514:57
ubottuvictor55: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:57
TDO|Denton!patience14:58
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/14:58
TDO|DentonOh yeah, I need such a msg for my channel on QuakeNet. ;-)14:58
victor55I got a slow boot up time. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nvQdQQyV5c/ What should i do ?14:59
diogenes_victor55, to disable postresql sevices.15:08
victor55How to disable them please?15:09
diogenes_victor55, sudo systemctl disable postgresql@9.3-main && sudo systemctl disable postgresql@9.5-main && sudo systemctl disable postgresql@10-main && sudo systemctl mask postgresql@9.3-main && sudo systemctl mask postgresql@9.5-main && sudo systemctl mask postgresql@10-main15:11
diogenes_all in once command.15:11
victor55Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@9.3-main.service → /dev/null.Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@9.5-main.service → /dev/null.Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@10-main.service → /dev/null.15:12
victor55Is it ok for you ?15:13
diogenes_looks good reboot.15:13
TDO|DentonUm. Why was the service active in the first place?16:07
tomreyn<tomreyn> postgresql is a database server. it's not installed by default, so *someone* must have installed it (maybe you?).16:41
tomreyn<victor55> Yes maybe a long time ago16:41
tomreyn^ from #lubuntu, where they x posted to16:41
TDO|Dentonoh I see. thx16:48
xubuntu-new-userHi17:17
diogenes_!hi17:18
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!17:18
TDO|Denton?17:18
diogenes_!?17:19
TDO|Denton:)17:19
xubuntu-new-userwhat is system requirments for xubuntu ?17:55
diogenes_!xubuntu18:00
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with !Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at https://xubuntu.org/ - To install the Xubuntu environment from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !xubuntu-channels18:00
diogenes_!requirements18:03
ubottuThe hardware requirements for Xubuntu can be found at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/18:03
diogenes_or here: https://xubuntu.org/requirements/18:03
xubuntu-new-userwill it run faster than kubuntu with kde ?18:04
xubuntu-new-userin same laptop18:04
diogenes_absolutely18:06
xubuntu-new-userwhat about softwares ?18:31
xubuntu-new-useris the software publication is the same as kubuntu, ubuntu ?18:31
krytenxubuntu-new-user: All Ubuntu flavors share the same software repositories, so yes.18:33
xubuntu-new-userhow can I check if there is full translation of the dekstop to my local language ?18:35
krytenDepends a bit on which one that is exactly, but every one could technically be tested on a Live medium (installation image).18:41
SuzHello everyone, I'm trying to find out which services to disable (which wouldn't cause any problems) after "systemd-analyze blame" to find out why my laptop is so slow to boot. Can I share it with you to guide me please?21:09
Suzhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QSjR4wP5Mv/21:11
brainwashSuz: try "systemd-analyze critical-chain"21:17
Suzhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hrpdQFnSch/21:18
brainwash                      └─dev-zram3.swap @56.743s21:20
brainwash                        └─systemd-journald.socket @6.170s21:20
brainwashbug 178174621:21
ubottubug 1781746 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Slow startup with zram-config installed (/dev/zram0) or encrypted swap" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178174621:21
Suzwhat should i do please?21:25
SuzXubuntu 18.04.321:25
SuzI'm a beginner... And I don't want to do something wrong.21:26
brainwashnot sure21:29
brainwashI did not read the bug report21:29
brainwashyour system is probably up-to-date21:32
Suzoff course21:32
Suzof*21:32
brainwashwhat does "apt policy initramfs-tools" return?21:32
brainwashit will show you the installed package version21:33
Suzbionic...21:40
Suz0.130ubuntu3.921:40
SuzI'm back21:44
Suz?21:44
Suzi was disconnected21:45
brainwashthe version is the correct one21:45
brainwashand the linked bug report is marked as fixed21:46
Suz? I don't understand21:46
SuzI don't know understand how to fix it even it is marked as fixed.21:46
brainwashthe obvious thing to do is to uninstall zram-config and see if that helps21:47
Suzok thanks21:47
Suzcan you give the link of the bug again please21:48
brainwashbug 178174621:48
ubottubug 1781746 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Slow startup with zram-config installed (/dev/zram0) or encrypted swap" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178174621:48
brainwash!info zram-config21:49
ubottuzram-config (source: zram-config): Upstart job to enable zram support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5 (bionic), package size 4 kB, installed size 54 kB21:49
Suzif i delete zram-config it will bug?21:49
brainwashno idea21:50
brainwashand no idea why you have it installed in the first place21:50
brainwashI don't think it's part of a default installation21:50
brainwashto make sure you could ask in #ubuntu21:51
tomreynzram-config is in universe, certainly not installed by default22:08
krytenHeh, comparing the two initial pastes from here and #lubuntu where they crossposted to, its obvious they doctored the output to say "xubuntu" and "lubuntu" respectively - the latter of which zram-config is indeed installed on by default.  Just the timing of both the pastes and the postings is actually the other way around. >_>22:32
TheCoolest[m]Hey, I'm having issues with WiFi.23:23
TheCoolest[m]While it shows connected, the internet cuts out randomly until I disconnect and reconnect. This is not an issue on any other device of mine.23:23
TheCoolest[m]Also I use Privoxy and I don't know if that could have something to do with it23:24
TheCoolest[m]I think I've narrowed it down to ath10k firmware but I'm confused at any ways I find for trying to fix it23:41

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