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[03:59] sorry [04:00] hello every one [04:00] no problem [04:00] my english is poor so i'll trie to explain [04:00] ok [04:35] hola.... hello [04:36] please I need your help [04:36] I have xubuntu 18.04.1 and the phyton 3 post-installation crash [04:37] can't install nothing [04:37] give me error in terminal [04:37] can you show this error? [04:37] ! [04:37] !paste [04:37] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:40] I recopilate information wait please [04:51] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RxyXysvhjP/ [04:52] I do'nt how paste, the url have the line command [04:53] also, I use sudo apt-cache policy hplip this command give me: hplip: Instalados: (ninguno) Candidato: 3.17.10+repack0-5 Tabla de versión: 3.17.10+repack0-5 500 500 http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main i386 Packages [04:54] Can help me please? thank [04:56] sudo dpkg --purge hplip-data [04:56] sudo dpkg --configure -a [04:56] sudo apt update [04:56] sudo apt -f install [04:58] sudo apt install --reinstall hplip hplip-data [04:58] this is bug 1766020 [04:58] bug 1766020 in hplip (Ubuntu) "package python3 3.6.5-3 failed to install/upgrade: installed python3 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 4" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766020 [05:02] ok, I try, wati [05:02] wait [05:05] you can run export LANG=C to get english language command output [05:06] (it will last until you close this terminal window only) [05:08] hi [05:09] im looking for help in figuring out which version of xubuntu to download 32 or 64 bit [05:11] xu-help50w, 64 bit is recommended. [05:12] my version is 32bits [05:13] thanks for your help, it was solved [05:14] Thank you so much [05:15] it's an old computer, maybe 15 years [05:17] currently running windows vista 32 bit, but don't know if that because it couldn't run the 64 bit or because i pressed the wrong button installing it [05:17] no, it is a computer from 2 years ago, but the only version of xubuntu that I had on hand was 32 bits [05:18] xu-help50w, what CPU? [05:18] bernardo, i think maybe we're asking the same question here [05:18] amd [05:19] intel core 2 duo t7300 [05:20] Intel® 64 ‡ Yes [05:20] Instruction Set 64-bit [05:21] friends, thanks for your help. Here in Chile it is 1AM, tomorrow I must open my store and I must go to sleep. thanks for your wisdom. good night or day to everyone [05:21] xu-help50w, your CPU can run 64 bit. [05:22] great, thank you diogenes_ [05:22] you're welcome. [05:54] * ball installs Xubuntu ...again [06:00] im running xubuntu from usb. I've just installed webcamoid, but it won't launch. Any advice please? [06:00] What is a webcamoid? [06:01] !info webcamoid [06:01] Package webcamoid does not exist in bionic [06:02] it's a webcam suite for viewing my camera https://webcamoid.github.io/ [06:02] hmm it actually does exist in bionic/universe [06:04] Does it need certain specific webcams? [06:05] on a different computer i'm running ubuntu and it used the inbuilt camera, there's an option to switch if more are available [06:06] Hmm... ok [06:06] tomreyn: Funnily enough, it worked in PM now.. >_> [06:07] run it from a terminal, this may provide output hinting on why it wont run [06:07] !info webcamoid [06:07] webcamoid (source: webcamoid): full featured webcam capture application. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.1.0+dfsg-7 (bionic), package size 565 kB, installed size 1154 kB [06:07] xu-help27w, why not using guvcview? [06:08] kryten: maybe it's the 500 error packages.u.c. keeps throwing on the first non-cached request [06:08] for a year or so now [06:08] literally just enter the command webcamoid [06:08] ? [06:09] xu-help27w: probably, yes. i don't know what's the proper command to run it, but it's likely just that [06:09] diogenes_ just because I googled webcam apps and this one was the most reccomended [06:10] segmentation fault (core dumped) [06:10] maybe this makes it less recommendable [06:11] is it because I'm running of usb instead of a fully installed version of xbuntu? [06:11] which xubuntu version is this, is it fully updated? [06:12] tomreyn: Since it doesn't call packages.u.c for this though, but rather use a dedicated APT cache for each version it supports, I'm more thinking the latter was out of date or erroneous or something. [06:12] Anyway... [06:12] oh ok [06:13] im not ignoring you, trying to figure out version [06:14] tomreyn: Seems I have more luck than you on using the site though. >_> [06:15] I should probably leave this installation running overnight. [06:15] Overnight delivery! XD [06:15] im going to say version 18.04.4 lts [06:16] kryten: hmm i can't seem to trigger any 500's also right now. and the site is unusually fast, too. [06:17] xu-help27w: so is this a proper installation you wrote to a usb stick or is it an installer image written to a usb stick? [06:18] i downloaded the .iso and then wrote it to the usb [06:19] i see. you'll better install properly then. [06:19] why isn't that properly? [06:20] i used disk image writer [06:20] it's stuck on the kernel version it was on when it released. software updates only "install" to a RAM disk. if you run out of RAM the file system becomes unreliable. [06:21] what does that mean? [06:21] that you should install properly [06:22] my bootable usb has been made incorrectly or I need to dive in and just install to the hard drive? [06:22] you should use the installer usb stick you created to install to the hard disk or some other (may be removable) storage which you'll then boot off [06:23] Ah if only it would fit on an Iomega Zip disk! ;-) [06:24] even this computer isn't old enough for a zip drive [06:24] im booting from usb now. Should I restart to install, or can I use the option from within xubuntu? [06:25] xu-help27w: Does the computer have a hard disk or SSD that you don't mind wiping? [06:25] (no document files on it) [06:25] (no photos or important software?) [06:26] I was hoping to test that linux was working for me before committing to wipe [06:26] can i upload images here? [06:27] !screenshot [06:27] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here. [06:28] no, I want to show you a connector on the laptop so you can tell me what it does so I can find out if i'm correct [06:28] I think my installation's nearly done! [06:29] so take a photo and uploasd it and post the link to where you uploaded it [06:29] * ball predicts it's the laptop's belly button. [06:30] running journalctl -b | grep DMI: should report which laptop model and firmware you have there [06:30] This computer sort of needs a case. [06:31] looks like you just made a case for a case. [06:31] now get the ball rolling, ball. [06:37] https://imgur.com/a/IlCLytT [06:37] tomreyn: Can't afford it. [06:37] sorry for the delay, computers and i are not friends currently [06:38] what's the one on the left? [06:38] Line in? [06:38] Might be line out, let me check. [06:38] what kind of line? [06:38] audio [06:38] all of these three are about audio [06:38] 1V peak-peak analogue audio. [06:39] the headphone jack apparently also supports digital out, perhaps optical. [06:39] (check the manual) [06:39] ugh, I was hoping i could use it to connect my webcam, which has RCA cables [06:39] xu-help27w: None of these are video. [06:40] ah crap! [06:40] I'm told blue is line in. [06:41] Green is supposedly line out but I've seen it used more for headphone and speaker jacks (same concept but different Voltage levels) [06:42] For a camera with composite video output, you'd need a video capture card/device with composite video in. [06:42] What sort of camera is it? [06:43] The video capture device is likely to cost more than a replacement camera unless you have very special camera needs. [06:43] (e.g. microscope, night vision, CCTV etc.) [06:43] Does your camera have a microphone built in? [06:45] similar to this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017HRO36?tag=httpwwwfuadph-20 [06:45] yes, it has a microphone [06:45] colour and ir [06:46] you can get cheap video capture things, but not tomorrow. I had hoped to bypass by using another laptop [06:46] but wrong connectors ;( [06:47] * ball waits for the page to load... [06:49] ...and waits... [06:50] analog usb video capture is very cheap [06:50] ali1234: I have one beside me but that's PCI iirc. [06:51] Not sure how well it performs. [06:51] from an actual store, or just when buying online? I've been quoted $50cad [06:51] china special on ebay will cost you about 10 dollars [06:51] but can't have it tomorrow [06:51] analog capture is always rubbish though [06:52] ali1234: Sometimes it's intentionally rubbish though. [06:54] Still, you'd plug the yellow cable into your video capture interface and the white one into the left channel channel of the blue connector. [06:54] ...and I think the red there is just to power the camera. [06:54] no [06:54] You'd need some video capture software. [06:54] slickymaster: no what? [06:55] yellow is composite video, red and white are stereo audio [06:55] ali1234: The red shown isn't an RCA jack. [06:55] ...and I doubt it has a stereo mic. [06:55] rca plug* [06:55] well then, don't try to plug it into a standard capture card [06:56] ali1234: No, that's probably a DC barrel connector [06:56] (to power the camera) [06:56] red is power [06:56] * ball nods [06:56] * ball tries to remember the EIA/CCIR mono standards... [06:58] https://www.amazon.ca/Capture-Device-Adapter-Converter-Support/dp/B00S7ZELXC/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=usb+video+capture&qid=1586761067&sr=8-14 [06:58] xu-help27w: What country are you in? [06:58] canada [06:58] the same one is $5 on aliexpress [06:58] (USD) [07:04] ali1234: How much is a 400-line USB video capture thinggy these days? [07:04] what do you mean by 400 line? [07:08] ali1234: Captures both fields and presents the computer with one 400-line image per frame (30 per second) [07:09] Years ago, cheaper models captures one field and threw the other away, resulting in 200-line scans. [07:10] Hopefully those are no longer a thing. [07:10] seems pointles, it would just be doing nothing for one field... probably a USB bandwidth limitation [07:11] ...that and it saved having to buffer both fields. [07:12] i dont know of any that can do true framegrabbing except the domesday duplicator, that costs about $500 and you have to build it yourself [07:13] * ball is on the Domesday Discs :-) [07:16] well i'm feeling defeated. thanks for all your help, i'm going to go and cry myself to sleep now [07:16] CCIR System M. [07:16] xu-help27w: We're not done with you yet. [07:16] ;-) [07:19] ali1234: Have you seen any USB 3 video capture devices or are they all USB 2? [07:19] yeah, domesday duplicator [07:19] but really that is just a high speed daq [07:21] To install a .deb file on Xubuntu, would I just double-click it and follow the software centre's prompts? [07:21] * ball tries it. [07:45] ideally you'd rather look for an apt repository that's compatible to your xubuntu release and provides this package, and use this repository, so you'll have an upgrade path. [07:51] * ball nods [07:51] In this case I don't think that was an option but that's ok, it worked. [07:51] Handy to know for future reference though. [07:52] you can also apt install /path/to/packagefile.deb [07:54] Thanks tomreyn [11:04] Hi everzbodz [14:57] Hello is someone here for help please? [14:57] Um depends on the problem :) [14:57] !ask | victor55 [14:57] victor55: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:58] !patience [14:58] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [14:58] Oh yeah, I need such a msg for my channel on QuakeNet. ;-) [14:59] I got a slow boot up time. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nvQdQQyV5c/ What should i do ? [15:08] victor55, to disable postresql sevices. [15:09] How to disable them please? [15:11] victor55, sudo systemctl disable postgresql@9.3-main && sudo systemctl disable postgresql@9.5-main && sudo systemctl disable postgresql@10-main && sudo systemctl mask postgresql@9.3-main && sudo systemctl mask postgresql@9.5-main && sudo systemctl mask postgresql@10-main [15:11] all in once command. [15:12] Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@9.3-main.service → /dev/null.Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@9.5-main.service → /dev/null.Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/postgresql@10-main.service → /dev/null. [15:13] Is it ok for you ? [15:13] looks good reboot. [16:07] Um. Why was the service active in the first place? [16:41] postgresql is a database server. it's not installed by default, so *someone* must have installed it (maybe you?). [16:41] Yes maybe a long time ago [16:41] ^ from #lubuntu, where they x posted to [16:48] oh I see. thx [17:17] Hi [17:18] !hi [17:18] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [17:18] ? [17:19] !? [17:19] :) [17:55] what is system requirments for xubuntu ? [18:00] !xubuntu [18:00] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with !Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at https://xubuntu.org/ - To install the Xubuntu environment from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !xubuntu-channels [18:03] !requirements [18:03] The hardware requirements for Xubuntu can be found at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [18:03] or here: https://xubuntu.org/requirements/ [18:04] will it run faster than kubuntu with kde ? [18:04] in same laptop [18:06] absolutely [18:31] what about softwares ? [18:31] is the software publication is the same as kubuntu, ubuntu ? [18:33] xubuntu-new-user: All Ubuntu flavors share the same software repositories, so yes. [18:35] how can I check if there is full translation of the dekstop to my local language ? [18:41] Depends a bit on which one that is exactly, but every one could technically be tested on a Live medium (installation image). [21:09] Hello everyone, I'm trying to find out which services to disable (which wouldn't cause any problems) after "systemd-analyze blame" to find out why my laptop is so slow to boot. Can I share it with you to guide me please? [21:11] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QSjR4wP5Mv/ [21:17] Suz: try "systemd-analyze critical-chain" [21:18] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hrpdQFnSch/ [21:20] └─dev-zram3.swap @56.743s [21:20] └─systemd-journald.socket @6.170s [21:21] bug 1781746 [21:21] bug 1781746 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Slow startup with zram-config installed (/dev/zram0) or encrypted swap" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781746 [21:25] what should i do please? [21:25] Xubuntu 18.04.3 [21:26] I'm a beginner... And I don't want to do something wrong. [21:29] not sure [21:29] I did not read the bug report [21:32] your system is probably up-to-date [21:32] off course [21:32] of* [21:32] what does "apt policy initramfs-tools" return? [21:33] it will show you the installed package version [21:40] bionic... [21:40] 0.130ubuntu3.9 [21:44] I'm back [21:44] ? [21:45] i was disconnected [21:45] the version is the correct one [21:46] and the linked bug report is marked as fixed [21:46] ? I don't understand [21:46] I don't know understand how to fix it even it is marked as fixed. [21:47] the obvious thing to do is to uninstall zram-config and see if that helps [21:47] ok thanks [21:48] can you give the link of the bug again please [21:48] bug 1781746 [21:48] bug 1781746 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Slow startup with zram-config installed (/dev/zram0) or encrypted swap" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781746 [21:49] !info zram-config [21:49] zram-config (source: zram-config): Upstart job to enable zram support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5 (bionic), package size 4 kB, installed size 54 kB [21:49] if i delete zram-config it will bug? [21:50] no idea [21:50] and no idea why you have it installed in the first place [21:50] I don't think it's part of a default installation [21:51] to make sure you could ask in #ubuntu [22:08] zram-config is in universe, certainly not installed by default [22:32] Heh, comparing the two initial pastes from here and #lubuntu where they crossposted to, its obvious they doctored the output to say "xubuntu" and "lubuntu" respectively - the latter of which zram-config is indeed installed on by default. Just the timing of both the pastes and the postings is actually the other way around. >_> [23:23] Hey, I'm having issues with WiFi. [23:23] While it shows connected, the internet cuts out randomly until I disconnect and reconnect. This is not an issue on any other device of mine. [23:24] Also I use Privoxy and I don't know if that could have something to do with it [23:41] I think I've narrowed it down to ath10k firmware but I'm confused at any ways I find for trying to fix it