[02:20] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: since Kelvin's not around can you review https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11439?
[02:26] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: thanks!
[03:13] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: nice to get that fix done :-) you forward port to develop?
[03:59] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: yup, doing it now
[04:00] <wallyworld> \o/
[04:21] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11440
[04:22] <wallyworld> looking
[04:22] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: ty, hardest review i've done in ages
[04:24] <babbageclunk> :)
[10:20] <manadart> stickupkid: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11441
[10:56] <stickupkid> manadart, this has grown legs, mind CR whilst I fix da tests https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11425
[10:56] <manadart> stickupkid: Sure.
[13:40] <achilleasa> hml: did you try the caas upgrade after landing the relation changes? Do we have any other pending bits?
[13:41] <hml> achilleasa:  yes… that was a card you missed.  i did caas upgrades, migration and a few bits of clean up.
[13:41] <hml> achilleasa:  the only pending bits i now of are the two prs i have up.
[13:42] <achilleasa> hml: looking at the panic one atm. Think we can get a test in to ensure that the errors bubble up properly?
[13:43] <hml> achilleasa:  there is a test which bubble up some.  they won’t go all the way easily as other code checks should prevent them from occuring.
[13:43] <hml> the same reason it’s difficult to test
[13:44] <hml> achilleasa:  that’s for the Implicit relations… pondering if the Join when dying can be tested for bubble up
[14:26] <manadart> stickupkid: Daily in a couple? Just need to grab a drink.
[14:26] <stickupkid> manadart, yarp
[15:05] <achilleasa> rick_h: these are the two new errors that the operator can get when we turn on support for rel limits: https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/QsQ59vynwh/ any tweak suggestions for the wording?
[15:15] <rick_h> achilleasa:  that looks good. Ideally we'd be able to hint to the charm's metadata yaml because this is kind of new/out of the operators hands
[15:16] <achilleasa> rick_h: for the second error you mean? Something like 'the metadata for the new charm version imposes...'?
[15:17] <rick_h> achilleasa:  no I mean in general. Ignore me. It's wishful thinking
[23:01] <hpidcock> tlm: tlm[m]: can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1871894 you might know whats up
[23:01] <mup> Bug #1871894: Workload pod deployed by Juju 2.8 can't create secret <juju:Triaged by tlmiller> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871894>
[23:02] <tlm> k hpidcock
[23:02] <hpidcock> It might not have anything to do with the admission stuff
[23:03] <tlm> very strange
[23:07] <babbageclunk> I love the message "existing secret does not exist"
[23:42] <tlm> hpidcock: that is a bug with the admission controller
[23:42] <tlm> will try and cover it with a test