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RikMillsvalorie: sorry to hate on kmail, but you don't have to build it :P20:05
valoriewell, I haven't used it for years20:06
valoriestopped sending mail .... while reporting that it had20:06
valorietried everything fossy20:06
valoriewent to gmail and there I remain20:06
valorieeventually I may set up kmail again and see if it can lure me back to "real" email20:07
RikMillsYeah, email clients are not great nowaways somehow20:08
valorieI get why companies want them20:08
valorieafter re-reading the phab, and now that you've got the new PIM in20:13
valorieperhaps we can do some testing and decide whether or not to add back to our ISO for 20.1020:13
valoriemaybe by then the gmail cr*p will be fixed20:14
RikMillsIt won't. that was in the kaccounts packages which are not part of this PIM update, and still are not great20:15
valoriewell, part of it is bad policy, and there is work to streamline the policies20:16
RikMillsand honestly, it is too late. final freeze is in 2 days, and that phab discussion was not based on us having OLD PIM, just any PIM20:17
valoriethey are overly verbose which gives Google the willies, I guess20:17
valorie20.10 I said20:17
valorienot the upcoming20:17
RikMillsI think best option is to nicely document how to install PIM20:17
valorieyou've already given your all to get qt and the other new stuff in20:18
valoriefor which you deserve laurels20:18
valorieand kudos20:18
valorie:-)20:18
valoriethank you for your great work20:18
RikMillsoh, sorry, I misread the version! thanks :)20:18
RikMillsthen yes, that discussion can be had20:19
valoriethat will give us plenty of testing time20:19
valoriewhenever we get to "life as usual'20:19
valoriewhich I can hardly remember20:19
RikMillsTrump will have it back to normal in just a few weeks ;)20:20
valorieriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight20:20
valorielike Boris did20:20
valoriewe're still testing less than 1% of people here20:21
valorieno possible way to get back to normal with that pitiful number20:21
RikMillsyep, much the same here. it is short term'ish coming back to bite us hard20:22
RikMills*ism20:23
valorieso many of these "we're #1! 'leaders'" are getting bit20:24
valorieor rather, their populations20:24
RikMillsyou would hope that would lead to change, but sadly I suspect the public in their countries suffer from the same short term memory loss, and may not fully punish them20:29
valoriewell, and so many power grabs taking place right now, under the radar of the public20:35
valoriehard for me to know what's going on the minds of most murricans, out here in my liberal bubble20:36
valorieone of my friends tried to talk me into watching the trump show every day "because it will make you feel better"20:36
valorie!20:36
valorieit would leave me fuming, instead20:37
valorie"you don't have to watch it on FOX, you can watch on CNN" like that would make a difference20:37

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