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callmepkgood morning all01:28
dufluHi callmepk 01:42
callmepkHi duflu 01:44
pieqMorning everyone!02:12
GunnarHjHi robert_ancell! Are you going to work on bug #1867548 very soon? Or is my idea mentioned in comment #7 an option?02:32
ubot5bug 1867548 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Focal) "Right Alt key is suddenly switched off after invoking Settings - Keyboard Shortcuts in Focal" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186754802:32
robert_ancellGunnarHj, it's on my list of things to look at but I don't have any experience in that panel. Is this something that was introduced in a commit in gnome-control-center? Can you link to that in the issue if so - then we can ask the person who made the change to fix it.02:37
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Yes, it was introduced through a g-c-c commit a few months ago. It's all explained in the patch I proposed, including a link to the commit I would like to see reversed:02:43
GunnarHjhttps://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-control-center/-/blob/479356ab7c521841c3131c571bfc3384aff2a705/debian/patches/0027-temporarily-revert-alt-char-key.patch02:43
robert_ancellGunnarHj, I saw that, but the upstream issue doesn't have a link to the commit(s) https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/91802:43
gitbotGNOME issue 918 in gnome-control-center "Right Alt key is suddenly switched off after invoking Settings - Keyboard Shortcuts in 3.35" [6. Component: Keyboard, Opened]02:43
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Now it has. :)02:50
robert_ancellGunnarHj, thanks02:50
hellsworthkenvandine: re the build snap clutter issue, i submitted a pr. please see if it fixes your issue. if you already did that before opening the issue then we can go ahead and merge :)03:22
hellsworththanks for finding that!03:22
sa-ghoststhere is a Gnome 3.36 bug (it's also related to another bug) that affect people with 1366x786 screens.04:33
sa-ghostshere are the links:04:33
sa-ghostshttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/223704:33
sa-ghostshttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/223404:33
sa-ghostsyou could see in the first link it affect gnome in a small way (by changing the dash size)04:34
sa-ghostsbut in ubuntu 20.04 it causes a more sever affect and that is when you tap out of the appfolder all the icons become very small and if you redo it again it may cause a session crash.04:34
sa-ghostsI don't know if you already know this but just to be sure I posted it here.04:35
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers05:50
jibelsalut oSoMoN 05:56
oSoMoNsalut jibel 05:57
didrocksgood morning06:15
jibelsalut didrocks 06:16
didrockssalut jibel 06:16
oSoMoNsalut didrocks 06:16
didrocksbon week-end oSoMoN ?06:22
seb128gooood morning desktopers06:26
didrockssalut seb128, bon week-end ?06:27
seb128lut didrocks, ouais et toi ? 06:27
didrocksça va06:29
jibelsalut seb128 06:30
seb128lut jibel, comment ça va ? vous avez passé un bon w.e?06:30
oSoMoNdidrocks, oui, très bon, merci06:31
oSoMoNsalut seb128 06:31
jibelça va, je ne vois plus trop les différences entre la semaine et le w-e, mais il est passé 06:31
seb128lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?06:31
didrocksjamesh: oh, you wrote your action in typescript! I was expecting you to use python. Cool to see what you have done with the very complete documentation available on this :)06:31
oSoMoNseb128, bien, merci06:31
didrocks(and with great tests, very cool)06:32
jameshdidrocks: mostly because that's what Github's most complete template project uses: https://github.com/actions/typescript-action06:32
jameshdidrocks: Python wasn't really an option: you can use it in Docker based actions, but I can't run snapd inside of Docker.06:33
jameshA nodejs action also starts faster06:33
didrocksjamesh: ah :) indeed, snapd in Docker, I should have thought about it as a limiting factor. I looked a week ago at the github action documentation itself again (more on a consumer side) and it didn’t evolve much from when I started to migrate zsys CI to it (meaning: very lacking in term of events and the objects that are sent back to you)06:34
* didrocks still hope that one day, we can use github packages (local containers) in github CI, which, weirdly, isn’t the case yet06:35
jameshHaving a template project with a test suite and linter already set up is great if you're just learning (or relearning) the language06:37
didrocksindeed06:38
dufluMorning oSoMoN, jibel, didrocks, seb128 07:01
dufluAfternoon everyone else07:02
didrockshey duflu 07:06
snowdinoSoMon: are you the maintainer of the firefox-trunk PPA? 07:18
snowdinI have a few bugs to report, can I DM you?07:18
marcustomlinsonmorning oSoMoN jibel didrocks seb128 jamesh07:25
didrockshey marcustomlinson 07:25
dufluHi marcustomlinson 07:27
jameshhi marcustomlinson 07:29
jibelmorning marcustomlinson 07:37
seb128hey duflu, marcustomlinson, how are you? had a good w.e?07:39
marcustomlinsonseb128: yeah good thanks, w.e. was nice. how are you?07:40
seb128marcustomlinson, good as well, w.e was nice enough, would have been better if we were not locked down and isolated, was a bit weird to just be us on sunday07:41
dufluseb128, only scratched the surface on many jobs at home. Need more long weekends. I think there's another one in a couple of weeks :)07:43
seb128:-)07:43
Laneymoin08:01
oSoMoNhey duflu, marcustomlinson, Laney 08:05
dufluMorning Laney08:08
Laneyyo ho oSoMoN duflu 08:18
seb128hey Laney, how are you? had a good w.e?08:21
Laneyhey seb128 08:23
Laneyyes it was actually very welcome to have 4 days off08:23
seb128great08:23
Laneymight have to do that again after the release :-)08:23
tintouGood morning there, I've seen that `ubuntu-system-service` is still a recommended dependency of gnome-control-center but the patch to use it is no more included in focal, is there any specific reason to keep it there? Also, is there anything else that is setting the system-wide proxy configuration?08:25
LaneyI guess not08:34
seb128we have a todo to port/fix that patch08:34
seb128but meanwhile probably not indeed08:35
KGB-0gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 9ef6522 Iain Lane debian/ control control.in * control: Stop recommending ubuntu-system-service * https://deb.li/ijvh408:41
Laneythere we go08:41
RikMillsmorning08:46
RikMillsany more definite ubiquity uploads planned?08:47
Laneyyes08:48
seb128jamesh, kenvandine, robert_ancell, do you know what's the status of the https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 SRU? It's in proposed since december and now blocking other fixes the OEM team needs, can we get it moved to updates so the next SRU can be accepted?08:50
RikMillsLaney: ok. I will ask what I should have. likely to be before final freeze? I have some cosmetic bugs to fix for KDE, but little time to work on them08:51
LaneyRikMills: Definitely, we would try to avoid uploading the installer after final freeze unless it's actually broken08:52
jameshseb128: I think it was waiting on jdstrand to sign of on it again08:53
RikMillsLaney: ok. thanks. I know where I stand then. worst case could be getting them in for point release if any other fixes are required for that08:54
seb128jdstrand, ^08:54
Laneydefinitely, SRU is just fine08:55
mantas-baltixhi08:58
mantas-baltixI've updated and fixed lots of snap store translations five days ago, but I don't see new translations in latest snap-store 20200413.ac9047f from latest/beta channel :(08:58
mantas-baltixCould someone fix this ? Which launchpad translation is used for official snap-store build, used in Ubuntu 20.04 daily?08:59
seb128mantas-baltix, hey, we need an export of translations and import, I will make sure that happens before focal is out09:02
dufluseb128, releasing 7.5 will also close these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bugs?field.tag=update-reverted09:06
mantas-baltixseb128, it would be nice to see translated snap-store before Ubuntu 20.04 :) I still don't sure which launchpad translation is used for official snap-store build, used in Ubuntu 20.04 daily :(09:06
seb128duflu, right09:06
seb128mantas-baltix, https://translations.launchpad.net/snap-store09:07
mantas-baltixBut not all strings are included at https://translations.launchpad.net/snap-store/trunk/+pots/snap-store/lt/+translate :(09:09
mantas-baltixseb128, it seems all Snap-store interface strings ar at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/gnome-software/+pots/gnome-software/lt/+translate09:09
seb128mantas-baltix, can you give an example?09:10
seb128one string that is missing09:11
mantas-baltixseb128, lots of strings, see bug #1872364 and bug #187077709:11
ubot5bug 1872364 in snap-store "Launchpad translations are not exported back to the snap package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187236409:11
ubot5bug 1870777 in snap-store "Make new Snap-related strings translatable on Launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187077709:11
seb128mantas-baltix, I'm asking for one example to be able to check with one, others will probably be the same issue09:12
seb128oh well, I will check the bugs later09:12
RikMillscan I update the ubiquity .po files directly in a merge, or do they need some regeneration by something?09:13
RikMillsI just want to remove 'KDE PIM suite' from being mentioned on the software selection page09:14
seb128rikMills, you don't need to bother updating the .po, when the template will be updated launchpad will stop exporting the translations and next translation update will be without those, meanwhile it doesn't create issue to have strings in .po which aren't used in the UI09:17
mantas-baltixseb128, for example search for "snap" at https://translations.launchpad.net/snap-store and you find only one string, but at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/gnome-software/+pots/gnome-software/lt/+translate?search=snap&show=all&direction=backwards&start=30 I find 36 string, for example "You don’t need an account to install09:18
mantas-baltixpublic snaps"09:18
RikMillsseb128: I am not taling about removing a used string. it needs keeping but altering09:18
RikMills*talking09:19
seb128rikMills, ah, don't do that now :p09:19
RikMillsseb128: I can't really leaving it telling users that some software will be installed, when it will not09:20
RikMillswell, I can, but that is bad bad09:20
seb128what's the string you want to change and from what to what?09:20
seb128is that in the slides?09:21
RikMillsno, in the main ubi software selection page09:21
RikMillsdebian/ubiquity.templates: Web browser, utilities, office software, KDE PIM suite plus additional internet applications and media players.09:21
RikMillsneed to remove 'KDE PIM suite '09:22
RikMillsin all the .po, it is either not translated, or very obvious what has to go as 'kde pim' is still there 09:24
seb128RikMills, so yes, you can patch the .po in source, launchpad will import the new string/translations09:24
seb128looks like it should be fine09:24
seb128it's always a tricky business to change translations like that though, some locales have forms changing according to the number of objects listed09:24
seb128so you mean introduce a translation error by doing such changes09:25
seb128it seems rather low risk there though09:25
seb128so hopefully no translator comes back angry at you :)09:25
RikMillsseb128: thanks. that is most critical thing I have. yes, slight error here are better IMO than giving users false info09:25
WimpressMorning desktoppers09:27
RikMillso/09:27
dufluMorning Wimpress 09:31
* duflu finishes reviewing 181 bugs and falls off chair09:31
dufluThough it was a 4 day weekend so per day that's fewer than last week09:32
seb128duflu, good job, enjoy your evening!09:51
* duflu closes email so he can't see any more09:52
dufluOh we have Xorg 1.20.809:56
seb128yes, that migrated out of proposed a bit earlier09:58
* duflu closes another performance bug09:59
dufluseb128, that's the Xwayland runs at 58 FPS issue. Nice to see it fixed10:05
dufluI though we'd have to wait till 20.1010:06
tjaalton;)10:06
duflu💖10:06
tjaaltonhaha10:06
dufluI also thought.10:06
seb128duflu, :-)10:07
xnoxseb128:  Laney: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/debian-cd/drop-integrity-check-menu-entry/+merge/381966 and https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/debian-cd/no-try-only-do-in-grub/+merge/381967 ?11:37
LaneyLater probably, trying to finish wrestling with ubiquity atm11:39
xnoxLaney:  yes ubiquity wresting is the best, and probably more urgent =)11:40
Laneycurrently yak shaving tbh11:41
Laneyneed to get hold of this 'swtpm' thing to test with an emulated tpm11:41
jdstrandseb128, jamesh: oh! that was waiting on me? ok, sure, I'll test that12:40
seb128jdstrand, hey, thank you!12:41
* Laney writes a weekly summary12:54
Laney'scuse the delay12:54
seb128kenvandine, hey, how are you? had a nice w.e?13:20
tjaaltonoSoMoN: hi, have you seen bugs about firefox webgl being broken?13:20
oSoMoNtjaalton, yes, I'm looking into that right now (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1872586)13:21
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1872586 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox won't display WEBGL web page in 20.04 ok in 19.10" [Undecided,New]13:21
tjaaltonoSoMoN: it's a bug in libdrm :)13:21
kenvandinehey seb128, i did13:21
kenvandineseb128: and you?13:21
tjaaltonand I have a fix13:21
oSoMoNtjaalton, that's very good news :)13:21
tjaaltonwas a regression there, it can't find the driver13:22
tjaaltonI'll move the bug13:22
oSoMoNthanks13:22
seb128kenvandine, I had, thanks!13:24
seb128kenvandine, can you tell me the difference between the snap-store and snap-store-3-36 branches?13:24
kenvandinesnap-store was the 3.34.x 13:25
kenvandinesnap-store-3-36 is the update to 3.3613:25
kenvandinewhich is what's in focal now13:25
kenvandinesoon to be pushed to snap-store13:25
seb128seems backward13:25
kenvandinesnap-store is where we are keeping the latest supported version13:26
kenvandinesnap-store-VERSION is working branches13:26
kenvandineusually short lived13:26
seb128so snap-store is stable, not trunk13:26
seb128?13:26
kenvandineyes13:26
seb128backward compared to GNOME13:26
kenvandineah13:26
seb128it got me confused13:26
kenvandinesorry13:26
seb128no worry13:26
seb128when to you plan to update snap-store?13:27
kenvandineprobably this week13:27
seb128I'm asking because we ship buggy translations because we asked people to translated 'snap-store'13:27
seb128not -3.3613:27
kenvandineah13:27
seb128annoying :-/13:27
kenvandinemaybe we can flip it for the future13:27
seb128I'm wondering how to fix the situations without waiting for you to land 3.36 to the non versioned branch13:28
kenvandinewhen robert rebases on ubuntu-master he's been creating these branches13:28
marcustomlinsonoh dang, monday update13:28
kenvandineseb128: actually13:28
kenvandinei can push it to snap-store now :)13:28
kenvandinejust not release to the stable channel until i'm sure13:29
seb128kenvandine, that would help, thanks13:29
kenvandineit's close enough13:29
kenvandinesure13:29
seb128kenvandine, then we need to do a new translation export and include it in the snap recipe13:29
hellsworthgood morning desktopers13:30
seb128hey Heather13:30
seb128exactly in time for the meeting!13:30
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 13:30
hellsworthyep that was on purpose13:30
hellsworthjust rolled out of bed :)13:30
seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-04-1413:30
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didrockshey13:31
jibelhola13:31
seb128Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), callmepk13:31
marcustomlinson\o13:31
hellswortho/13:31
oSoMoN🐰/13:31
callmepko/13:31
kenvandine\o13:31
seb128I hope everyone had a good Easter w.e!13:31
seb128let's get started13:31
GunnarHjO/ (I have an AOB thing.)13:32
seb128#topic rls-bb-bug13:32
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seb128GunnarHj, hey, stick around for a bit then :)13:32
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:32
seb128desktop free13:32
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:32
seb128no unassigned one13:32
seb128#topic rls-ee-bug13:33
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:33
seb128desktop free13:33
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:33
seb128no unassigned there either, nice13:33
seb128#topic rls-ff-bug13:33
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:33
seb128let's do that :p13:34
seb128bug #174534513:34
ubot5bug 1745345 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg assert failure: Xorg: /usr/include/xorg/privates.h:122: dixGetPrivateAddr: Assertion `key->initialized' failed." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174534513:34
hellsworthare we identifying what we can get done before the freeze?13:34
hellsworthor still picking the ones we want to be in by ff release?13:35
seb128the later one13:35
seb128if things don't make it to release they will be SRUed13:35
seb128same as we still review bb and ee lists13:35
hellsworthyep ok thanks13:36
seb128that xorg one seems not new, comment #48 point to fixes that landed13:36
seb128I don't think it has enough data to be nominate for rls-ff atm, I vote -113:36
hellsworthyep so -113:36
jibelyeah -1 and re-verifying it ATM13:36
seb128thanks jibel13:36
seb128bug #186255313:37
ubot5bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186255313:37
seb128I tagged this one, from the description it happens when trying to enable livepatch13:37
seb128we want to feature livepatch so it sucks when that experience is buggy13:37
seb128also it has some duplicates 13:37
seb128I do vote +1 in case it's not obvious :p13:37
hellsworth+113:38
oSoMoN+113:38
didrocksyeah, a good test case. +113:38
seb128kenvandine, do you think Robert can take on this one?13:39
kenvandineseb128: sure13:39
seb128thx13:39
seb128(I'm skipping the assigned one that we fail to untag/target previous week)13:39
seb128bug #186957113:40
ubot5bug 1869571 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Vertical dual monitor setup with main monitor on bottom causes overview to only use one eigth of screen" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186957113:40
oSoMoNkenvandine, if the problem happens to be in the livepatch integration in software-properties, I can look into that13:40
kenvandineoSoMoN: ok13:40
seb128oSoMoN, kenvandine, I think it's a bug in the online account panel in g-c-c, we had a similar one in the past than andyrock fixed13:40
seb128I emailed Robert asking for input and pointing to the old patch/commit, let's see13:41
seb128so13:41
hellsworth+1 on the dual monitor one13:41
seb128I don't know how common are vertical stacking of monitors13:41
seb128but it has already 8 users subscribed and some duplicates13:41
hellsworth+1 but low priority?13:42
seb128it's pretty annoying visually and not obvious what the issue is13:42
seb128I vote +113:42
seb128medium probably13:42
didrockssounds about right13:42
seb128thx13:43
seb128(I need to clean out the list, quite some items from previous week that got acted on but not removed from the list)13:44
seb128bug #187210313:44
ubot5bug 1872103 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) " After update to 6.4.2.2: Split database only accessible while running in Safe Mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187210313:44
seb128that's a report about 18.04 + ppa13:44
seb128does it happen in focal proper?13:44
hellsworthok so this one i haven't tried to reproduce. need to setup a database on a separate system so didn't spend the time yet13:45
Trevinhoyeah, I untagged some of them13:45
seb128I don't really understand the impact but it doesn't look rls material at this point to me?13:45
oSoMoNyeah, that would be the first thing to find out13:45
seb128k, let's untag for now, please tag it back if it turns out to be an issue on focal and you believe it's important enough to be rls tracked13:45
oSoMoNif it does impact focal and is a regression I would say it's rls material13:46
hellsworthok13:46
seb128bug #186866613:46
ubot5bug 1868666 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashes when resuming from lock screen [st_widget_remove_accessible_state: assertion 'ST_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed]" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186866613:47
seb128it's incomplete an another leftover it looks like13:47
didrocksI got some hang yesterday, not a crash though, same thing in the journal13:47
seb128tagging notifxing13:47
didrocksunsure if this is the same trigger though13:47
seb128didrocks, might be worth reporting with the journal snippet?13:48
seb128bug #186776313:48
ubot5bug 1867763 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT: assertion failure in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186776313:48
didrocksseb128: could do, unfortunately killing it didn’t create a core dump that could be retraced to attach :/13:48
didrocks(then the experience is horrible: you log back from gdm in the session and the Shell drops you again in lockscreen immediately)13:49
hellsworth+1 on the sigabrt one13:49
hellsworthdidrocks: i saw that yesterday in a vm too. i have only seen it in a vm though13:49
seb128it's easy to trigger here13:49
didrockshellsworth: real metal here :)13:49
didrockssounds like the sigarbrt has some dups, so yeah +113:49
seb128in fact already assigned to Daniel but on one component only13:49
hellsworthinteresting..13:49
seb128I will tide it up also13:49
seb128thx13:50
hellsworthdidrocks: oh sorry, i saw the issue you mentioned about being dropped back to the login screen. i've only seen that on a vm.13:50
seb128bug #187062713:51
ubot5bug 1870627 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Cannot change symbols in charts in LibreOffice Calc 6.4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187062713:51
hellsworthyeah that happens but only on kubuntu13:51
seb128missing recommends/depends?13:52
hellsworthi can check that13:52
seb128also the submitter mentions he reported it upstream, would be nice to get the reference13:52
hellsworthi looked upstream for a bug and couldn't find one. i'll ask him for a link13:52
seb128I would vote -1, would be nice to fix in a SRU/in the next upload, but if it's not happening in Ubuntu and only a graphical preference I don't think it's rls13:52
hellsworthsgtm13:53
seb128bug #187073613:54
ubot5bug 1870736 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Screen scaling 125% gives 200% (nvidia)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187073613:54
seb128Trevinho, any idea what's going on there?13:55
Trevinhoseb128 I think is just the driver not handling xrandr properly 13:55
seb128Trevinho, ok, so not on our side?13:55
seb128any way to confirm that easily?13:56
TrevinhoI don't think so, I mean all the other drivers are working fine13:56
TrevinhoI'm quite sure something broke at nvidia level there13:56
seb128do you have any xrand command line that could be used to test if that's actually an xrand problem?13:56
seb128if so could you comment that on the bug?13:56
Trevinhoyeah, I will write in the bug13:56
seb128thanks13:57
seb128bug #187135113:57
ubot5bug 1871351 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Review the vino/screen sharing situation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187135113:57
seb128I will take this one, but I patched g-s-d to restore vino's service handling so that's probably good enough for release at this point13:57
seb128bug #187164413:58
ubot5bug 1871644 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Top corners of Firefox windows have weird black protrusions from the rounded edges" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187164413:58
oSoMoNthat's a known upstream bug13:58
oSoMoNand affects only wayland13:58
seb128doesn't seem rls material to me13:58
oSoMoNyep, -1 from me too13:59
hellsworth-113:59
seb128that's it for incoming I think14:00
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:00
seb128bug #179140514:01
ubot5bug 1791405 in bluez (Ubuntu Focal) "bluetooth always in discoverable mode (security issue)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179140514:01
seb128unsure why Daniel edited this one and why it targets focal, I will just drop the target14:01
didrocksyeah, bluez task should be removed, no?14:02
seb128maybe, I think there is still a potential problem/fix to be done in the bluez side14:03
seb128which gnome-bluetooth workarounded/fixes in the GNOME case14:03
seb128I'm not wanting to enter a bug status fight with Daniel over it :p14:03
Laneyassign him then ;-)14:03
didrocks:)14:03
seb128haha14:03
seb128anyway, untargetted for now with a comment14:04
seb128the second one is assigned to me, just not on the g-c-c component, will fix14:04
seb128bug #186790814:04
ubot5bug 1867908 in wpa (Ubuntu Focal) "Fix RTM NEW/DELLINK IFLA_IFNAME copy for maximum ifname length" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186790814:04
seb128leftover I think, I said I would upload and forget, will do that14:04
seb128and that's it for bugs14:05
seb128sorry that some noise was left on the list, we will do better next week, I will tide things up after the meeting14:05
seb128#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:05
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seb128https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:05
seb128kenvandine, snapd-glib 1.57 fails to build on armhf, that's also blocking gnome-software, I expected to see Robert follow up on that after upload but that's stuck for some time now, do you know what's the status?14:06
seb128remmina is blocked by riscv but wgrant said earlier than he expect the libsecret stack to be good by eod so probably fine14:07
seb128pango is waiting for tests to be completed14:07
seb128and hplip is another riscv one14:07
kenvandineseb128: i don't know14:07
Laneywe shouldn't have things blocked like that by riscv6414:08
seb128kenvandine, can you check with him?14:08
kenvandineyup14:08
Laneywe attempted to set the setting in proposed-migration to fix that but it didn't work14:08
seb128:(14:08
Laneyif anyone has some time to read its code and work out why not that would be very helpful14:08
seb128do you have a pointer to the code/where to start?14:08
seb128in case someone is wanting to try to dive in14:08
Laneywell, is anyone?14:09
seb128I've a feeling everyone is busy and that's probably a no :-/14:09
Laneylook in https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/+git/britney2-ubuntu/tree/britney.py and work out why, if the arch is in break_arches, you would still get that excuse output14:09
Laneyright14:09
Laney"would anyone like to look at XXX" doesn't really work14:10
* Laney shouldn't have asked it in that way, sorry14:10
seb128I will try to have a look, who knows, fresh eyes or luck maybe :p14:10
seb128ok, that's it for that section14:11
seb128#topic AOB14:11
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seb128GunnarHj, you are up :)14:11
GunnarHjThanks..14:11
RikMillsseb128: ok, proposed my ubiquity merge14:11
GunnarHjBug #1867548 is still open. I talked with Robert this morning, and he asked (on the upstream issue) for input from Bastien, who wrote the code, and whose only reaction was that he doesn't use the feature (aka doesn't want to spend more work on it).14:11
GunnarHjMy suggestion on the matter is in comment #7 on the Ubuntu bug. The feature is new and of moderate importance, but the bug is bad, which I think justifies my proposal to drop the feature for now.14:11
GunnarHjPossibly Robert will fix it before final freeze, so this is to prepare the team for the case he doesn't.14:11
ubot5bug 1867548 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Focal) "Right Alt key is suddenly switched off after invoking Settings - Keyboard Shortcuts in Focal" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186754814:11
seb128GunnarHj, I emailed Robert about that one and the dynamic layout yesterday and he said he would have a look14:14
* RikMills notices meeting. shuts up14:14
GunnarHjseb128: He said that to me to, but also that he isn't familiar with that part of g-c-c.14:14
seb128GunnarHj, it has only one duplicate and 2 affected users so while it would be good to fix I'm also not convinced it's our top priority atm, can be a SRU14:15
GunnarHjseb128: It affect quite a few users - those who use "English (US)", "Russian", "Chinese"... Not sure that the numbers of affected users in the dev cycle is a good measure...14:16
seb128GunnarHj, so there is no 'Alternate Characters Key' defined by default?14:17
seb128and it got set the first time you open the settings?14:17
seb128I don't even understand what 'alternate characters key' is...14:18
seb128GunnarHj, I don't think we need to hold the team/meeting on that, let's keep discussing after wrapping14:18
seb128 14:18
GunnarHjseb128: Not as dconf setting. For those who use kb layouts with 3:rd level symbols it's defined via the layout. Yes, it's set behind the scenes once you open the Keyboard panel.14:18
seb128any other topic?14:18
kenvandineRC week, yay!14:19
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kenvandinethat is all from me :)14:19
seb128indeed :p14:20
seb128time to look at your assigneed rls bugs and do something about those!14:20
seb128Wimpress, we could use that weekly discourse post that usually goes out on monday :)14:21
kenvandineseb128: the snap-store branch is now the 3.36 base14:21
seb128kenvandine, thanks!14:21
kenvandineTuesday, it's the new Monday14:21
kenvandine:)14:21
kenvandineat least this week14:21
seb128hehe14:21
seb128indeed14:21
kenvandineit was really quiet yesterday14:21
seb128ok, let's wrap on that note :)14:21
seb128thanks team!14:21
seb128#endmeeting14:21
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meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-04-14-13.30.moin.txt14:21
didrocksthanks!14:21
marcustomlinsonthanks14:21
hellsworththanks!14:22
* Laney cries at launchpad timeouts14:22
marcustomlinsonindeed14:22
seb128GunnarHj, I don't really understand the issue, is that key unset for those locales or set to something else? can't we just add the 'unset' option to the list and make the default to not change the config?14:22
seb128Laney, I mentioned that on #launchpad before the meeting and they killed the gc job hopping it would be better14:22
Laneyyeah I saw14:22
Laneyhopefully will clear up14:22
seb128it was mostly fine during my editing in the meeting14:22
seb128but maybe I got lucky14:23
Laneygetting 503s now14:23
GunnarHjseb128: Yes, something like that. But to me it's not a "just" thing.14:24
seb128Laney, :-(14:24
GunnarHjseb128: For those layouts the key is unset, i.e. it works the same way as <Left Alt> by default.14:25
GunnarHjseb128: And those users, who usually use <Right Alt> instead of <Left Alt> finds that the key suddenly does not work as intended.14:27
seb128GunnarHj, do you know how to query what 'alternate character key' is? and what right click is doing?14:30
seb128just for testing/debugging14:30
seb128also how to unset it from a command line aftet g-c-c screwed it?14:30
GunnarHjseb128: What happens is that 'lv3:ralt_switch' is added to xkb-options without the user asking for it.14:35
GunnarHj$ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options14:35
GunnarHj['grp_led:scroll', 'lv3:ralt_switch']14:35
GunnarHjThe safest way to reverse it (without touching the other values in the list) is to use Tweaks.14:35
seb128GunnarHj, k, thanks, I will poke at it tomorrow if Robert doesn't pick it up before14:36
seb128GunnarHj, thanks14:36
GunnarHjseb128: yw14:36
seb128clobrano, looks like you are good to go for the yaru bugfix update, got the r-t and documentation acks now :)14:38
oSoMoNseb128, gvfs still needs merging, right?14:41
seb128oSoMoN, correct14:41
oSoMoNI didn't have time for it last week, but I'll get to it today14:41
seb128great, thanks!14:41
oSoMoNI will need sponsorship to upload14:42
kenvandineoSoMoN: i can sponsor if you need14:45
oSoMoNthanks, I'll ping you when I have a package ready14:45
kenvandinehellsworth: thanks for the libinput fix, building the sdk snap for candidate now14:50
seb128oSoMoN, it's time you apply for coredev :)14:56
oSoMoNseb128, one application at a time (mozilla packageset is pending review by the board next week)14:57
seb128:-)14:57
seb128oSoMoN, good to see that you managed to get Chris to comment on that one :-)14:58
clobranoseb128, awesome, thanks15:38
kenvandinehellsworth: i just ran into an issue building gnome-3-34-1804-sdk15:51
hellsworthoh?15:51
kenvandineclutter fails to build because pango pkgconfig file says it requires a newer glib15:52
kenvandinePackage 'pango' requires 'glib-2.0 >= 2.59.2' but version of glib-2.0 is 2.56.415:52
kenvandinethat is during the clutter part15:52
kenvandinehttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/474565298/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_amd64_gnome-3-34-1804-sdk_BUILDING.txt.gz15:52
hellsworthnow that's interesting. why haven't we hit that before?15:52
kenvandineoh15:53
kenvandineit's finding the wrong glib15:53
kenvandinethe build snap builds glib-2-6215:53
kenvandineso maybe libinput-dev brought in glib deb?15:53
kenvandinesigh... 15:54
hellsworthho hum15:54
hellsworthi guess need to build libinput-dev then15:54
kenvandineyeah15:54
hellsworthlet me look into that in a bit. need to get a LO build going first15:54
kenvandineok15:54
* kenvandine reopens bug15:54
clobranodidrocks, seb128: Yaru 20.04.5 PR ready https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/214815:54
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 2148 in yaru "update changelog for release 20.04.5" [Open]15:54
hellsworthyup thanks15:54
kenvandinehellsworth: actually, this still doesn't make sense15:56
kenvandineyou added libinput-dev to stage-packages15:56
kenvandineit was already in build-packages15:56
hellsworthright. it was in build-packages not stage packages15:56
hellsworthyou said you needed it to be staged15:56
kenvandineyes15:56
kenvandinewe need that staged15:56
kenvandineso this change shouldn't have caused this build failure15:56
hellsworthoh yeah. it shouldn't have affected the build at all15:57
hellsworthstrange15:57
hellsworthwhy would building clutter trigger a pango dependency error? pango was already built.16:01
kenvandineclutter build is reading the variables from pango's pkgconfig16:02
hellsworthlet's see if it fails in the same way with your current rebuild16:02
kenvandinebecause it build deps on pango16:02
kenvandinepango says it needs glib16:02
kenvandinehellsworth: this is my current rebuild16:02
kenvandineit built successfully not long ago16:02
hellsworthbut i see you have current builds going for .. oh wait those are arms16:03
kenvandineright16:03
kenvandineit makes me think maybe the latest snapcraft release?16:03
hellsworthbut the last passing build of gnome-3-34-1804-sdk was built with snapcraft 3.11, no?16:04
kenvandinewhen did that land in candidate?16:05
kenvandinewe build with snapcraft from candidate16:05
kenvandineit was last built on 3/2516:05
hellsworthyeah i'm pretty sure it was still in candidate then16:05
kenvandineyeah it was16:06
hellsworthlet me do a local build with --debug and try poking around16:06
kenvandineok16:06
hellsworthand the failed buidl was with snapcraft in stable, correct?16:07
didrocksclobrano: excellent! I’ll give it a try tomorrow and release :)16:09
seb128diddledan, clobrano, thanks!16:35
* diddledan usurps all your tabs16:35
seb128lol16:36
seb128didrocks left meanwhile16:36
seb128diddledan, sorry :)16:36
diddledan:-p16:36
oSoMoNkenvandine, https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gvfs/-/commits/ubuntu/master/ should be ready for upload16:39
kenvandineoSoMoN: uploaded17:02
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oSoMoNkenvandine, thanks!17:41
bittinHello, any desktop meeting today?17:43
luna-Any Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Women Meetings tonight?17:51
Laneydesktop meeting was a few hours ago17:51
luna-Laney: alright any log?17:51
Laneyyes on irclogs.ubuntu.com17:51
luna-Laney: thanks :)17:51
Laneyxnox: will look at your debian-cd merges first thing tomorrow18:15
xnoxLaney:  cool!20:30
xnoxLaney:  do you want a sample image built with them committed?20:30
kenvandinerobert_ancell: good morning21:00
robert_ancellkenvandine, hi21:01
robert_ancellHas anyone else had Firefox stop working with WebGL? (https://webglreport.com/)21:15
robert_ancellOn focal.21:15
Wimpressrobert_ancell: Yes. 21:22
WimpressI'm using the snap.21:22
robert_ancellWimpress, I'm using the deb21:22
WimpressEeek. Then something is very broken somewhere.21:23
WimpressAlso, o/21:23
Wimpress:-)21:23
WimpressHow are you?21:23
robert_ancellWimpress, good, yourself?21:23
WimpressYep, basic survival accomplished.21:24
robert_ancellSuccess.21:24
robert_ancellWimpress, oh, I have a question you might know. Was Raspberry Pi / Raspbian considered for a snapcraft.io landing page, e.g. https://snapcraft.io/install/go/debian21:25
robert_ancellIt would be essentially the same instructions as Debian, but with RPi branding. I think RPi users in general won't know it's Debian.21:26
WimpressYeah, we should address that.21:26
* Wimpress adds TODO21:26
robert_ancellok, I was about to file an issue for it, do you still want that or have you got it?21:27
WimpressYeah, please do file an issue again the site.21:27
WimpressThere might have been reasons in the past.21:28
WimpressBut we can over come that.21:28
robert_ancellFor context, I'm working on a project that I want to target RPi users (https://snapcraft.io/elf)21:28
Wimpress:-D21:28
tjaaltonrobert_ancell: webgl will get fixed once libdrm goes through proposed21:29
WimpressThanks tjaalton 21:30
robert_ancelltjaalton, ah cool. I figured it would be something like that. Thanks!21:30
tjaaltonI hit that myself and then noticed it was filed upstream..21:30
robert_ancellWimpress, https://github.com/canonical-web-and-design/snapcraft.io/issues/266721:32
gitbotcanonical-web-and-design issue 2667 in snapcraft.io "No landing page for Raspberry Pi" [Open]21:32

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