[00:00] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/fprintd-async 039362a Marco Trevisan * pushed 1123 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/8BFe
[00:00] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/fprintd-async 6e16cd8 Robert Ancell debian/ (25 files in 2 dirs) * https://deb.li/3NON0
[00:00] <KGB-0> * debian/patches/0003-info-overview-Use-the-Ubuntu-logo-prominently.patch:
[00:00] <KGB-0>   - Fix Ubuntu logo not showing in about panel (LP: #1864577)
[00:01] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/fprintd-async 34443ac Sebastien Bacher (31 files in 10 dirs) * https://deb.li/R27z
[00:01] <KGB-0> Merge branch 'upstream/latest' of salsa.debian.org:gnome-team/gnome-control-center into upstream/latest
[00:01] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/fprintd-async 7eb491e Sebastien Bacher (40 files in 12 dirs) * Merge remote-tracking branch 'salsa/debian/master' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/3zcVs
[00:01] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/fprintd-async aadd4c4 Sebastien Bacher debian/changelog * upload to focal * https://deb.li/33Fdv
[00:01] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/fprintd-async 0182db4 Robert Ancell (19 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream version 3.36.0 * https://deb.li/iOBgn
[00:02] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/fprintd-async 039362a Marco Trevisan . * branch deleted
[00:04] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Marco Trevisan * [open] merge request !15: debian/patches: user-panel: Don't wait for fprintd on initialization and don't limit enroll stages * https://deb.li/U2Dg
[00:31] <sa-ghosts> Wimpress, can we get an easy way to switch between 24h time and 12 am/pm time in ubuntu-mate?
[00:31] <sa-ghosts> for 20.10 ofc
[00:31] <sa-ghosts> or even 21.04
[00:43] <sa-ghosts> sorry, I didn't know about the #ubuntu-mate channel 
[01:06] <KGB-2> gnome-shell signed tags 28584b3 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.36.1-5ubuntu1 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.36.1-5ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3eXJF
[01:06] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master a0d1ea0 Marco Trevisan * pushed 46 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3kBK7
[01:06] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master ec852ab Dušan Kazik po/sk.po * Update Slovak translation * https://deb.li/rKI4
[01:06] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master f21a0ff Florian Müllner NEWS meson.build * Bump version to 3.34.4 * https://deb.li/3fGiD
[01:06] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 6b784e0 Simon McVittie (465 files in 41 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.34.3-1' into debian/unstable * https://deb.li/i7Oad
[01:07] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 1cdc9cb Simon McVittie debian/ changelog gbp.conf * d/gbp.conf: Switch to debian/unstable branch * https://deb.li/pXuV
[01:07] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 8d74b71 Simon McVittie (5 files in 3 dirs) * New upstream version 3.34.4 * https://deb.li/MLAj
[05:23] <jibel> morning all
[05:25] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[05:28] <jibel> hi duflu 
[06:18] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:20] <jibel> salut seb128 
[06:22] <seb128> lut jibel, comment ça va aujourd'hui ?
[06:23] <jibel> seb128, ça va bien et toi? beau temps pour aller à la plage :)
[06:24] <seb128> ça va, le manque d'exercice commence à devenir un peu pénible
[06:24] <didrocks> good morning
[06:24] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va chez toi ? ;-)
[06:25] <didrocks> seb128: ça va ? Et toi ?
[06:25] <seb128> ça va, juste un peu en manque de mouvement !
[06:26] <jibel> c'est vrai qu'on commence à faire un peu de gras
[06:26] <jibel> salut didrocks 
[06:27] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:28] <oSoMoN> salut jibel, didrocks 
[06:29] <jibel> bonjour oSoMoN 
[06:29] <didrocks> hello jibel, oSoMoN 
[06:34] <jibel> didrocks, I verified that snapshots are taken only once per u-u run and the check on the pid works fine. I don't know why you had 2 at the same time. 
[06:34] <didrocks> this is annoying, maybe uu crashed and relaunched? weird
[06:36] <jibel> didrocks, you'd see that in unattended-upgrades-dpkg.log
[06:39] <didrocks> ah, interesting, boot the vm
[06:40] <didrocks> I don’t have those logs
[06:41] <didrocks> just /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades-shutdown.log which is empty
[06:41] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme aujourd'hui ?
[06:42] <seb128> didrocks, jibel, I think u-u does split the upgrade in smaller sets instead of applying the stack of updates in one go, but I don't know if it does exit and start again when doing that
[06:43] <didrocks> seb128: it doesn’t from what we were told, and there is no hook. This is why we had the 20 minutes grace period that we narrowed down to checking the pid file, still taking into account if u-u doesn’t remove it, to check if it still exists
[06:44] <jibel> seb128, right, and we want to avoid taking a snapshot for each slice of updates. The process is the same apparently but didrocks had a case where he had 2 snapshots at the same time
[06:44] <seb128> k
[06:44] <didrocks> (spoiler alert: u-u doesn’t remove all temporary files and when asking the answer was "you are not supposed to look at them"
[06:44] <didrocks> when I got 2 snapshots at the same second, there was only one transaction (from dpkg log)
[06:44] <didrocks> this is why this is puzzling
[06:45] <didrocks> I think let’s keep a look
[06:48] <jibel> didrocks, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fCmj3hn63S/ is the log for this morning. There are many updates but only 1 snapshot
[06:48] <duflu> Morning seb128, didrocks, oSoMoN 
[06:48] <seb128> duflu, hey, how are you today?
[06:48] <jibel> this morning and previous days
[06:48] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[06:49] <duflu> seb128, busy but feeling good. I just separated that Xorg crash into a new bug for focal. And populated Trello with everything on the horizon (now more stressed)
[06:49] <didrocks> jibel: ack, so worked as expected
[06:49] <duflu> How are you seb128 ?
[06:49] <jibel> yup
[06:49] <seb128> duflu, I'm good thanks, I will have a look to trello in a bit, we didn't keep up with updating it as much as we should have recently
[06:50] <duflu> Yeah I noticed that when I was the only person touching cards some days
[06:50] <duflu> And other days I was one of the people not updating cards
[06:50] <seb128> duflu, I assigned some of the gnome-shell issues previous week and this week while we were reviewing the rls-ff-incoming bugs, Marco took his share but he needs some help ... do assignement on launchpad reach you correctly or do you prefer also cards to be created for those?
[06:50] <duflu> seb128, I put those in Trello today :)
[06:50] <duflu> Yes I do get the Launchpad emails too
[06:51] <seb128> k
[06:52] <seb128> duflu, bug #1869571 might be a good one to start with
[06:52] <seb128> it got oem tagged now
[06:52] <duflu> seb128, yes but I will avoid putting it in progress till more cards already started are off the list
[06:55] <seb128> duflu, I would say this one is more important than plymouth not showing on nvidia (which is only cosmetics for some seconds at boot) if you could trade those (unless you started enough work on the plymouth/nvidia one that you prefer to finish rather go back to it later)
[06:55] <duflu> Yeah they are started
[06:55] <duflu> I would waste time if I stopped and had to relearn where I was
[06:55] <seb128> k, fair enough, I let you work in order then :)
[07:14] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, la forme, et toi?
[07:14] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:15] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:23] <didrocks999> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:23] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson 
[07:24] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks999 .999999999999 and oSoMoN
[07:25] <didrocks999> :p
[07:27] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va, j'ai bien dormi, par contre je manque d'exercice et j'aime pas ça :-/
[07:27] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson
[07:36] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:44] <marcustomlinson> hi seb128 and duflu
[08:01] <Laney> morning
[08:02] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:03] <Laney> moin didrocks 
[08:03] <Laney> you good?
[08:04] <Laney> immediate agenda: look at xnox's stuff, figure out the BREAK_ARCHES thing in proposed-migration to unblock various things, do queue reviews
[08:04] <didrocks> I’m good, thanks! you?
[08:04] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:05] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you today?
[08:05] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson seb128 
[08:05] <Laney> yeah good, back in shorts today!
[08:05] <Laney> I think I'll be happier at work once this release is done
[08:05] <Laney> might need another 4 day weekend after that, that was good
[08:06] <Laney> how's it going there?
[08:06] <seb128> bah, one day I will unmap ctrl-R for reconnecting to the server 
[08:07] <Laney> didn't see anything, quits/joins are off :p
[08:07] <Laney> that sounds like a weird thing to have on an easy shortcut
[08:17] <Laney> seb128: Wimpress: whoever else cares: btw I got vorlon to make a 20.04.1 milestone
[08:17] <Laney> might want to go through the rls bugs at some point and target those
[08:18] <seb128> Laney, ah, nice one
[08:18] <seb128> yes
[10:58] <jibel> Laney, thanks for noticing the s, fixed
[10:59] <Laney> jibel: was hoping it wasn't a typo in code somewhere :O
[11:01] <jibel> it was unfortunately
[11:02] <Laney> suspected it might have been, as that stuff was c+ped
[11:02] <Laney> oh well, bug found bug squashed
[11:10] <didrocks> fortunately, people who have installed it beforehand and who won’t switch to a server-style type won’t notice, but meh :p
[11:10] <didrocks> thanks Laney 
[11:18] <marcustomlinson> Laney: hey man, sorry to bug you with this again. the fun hasn't ended: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1872958
[11:18] <marcustomlinson> Could you have a look at the MPs for u-m and u-r-u when you have a chance? It's relatively straightforward
[11:44] <Laney> marcustomlinson: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:46] <Laney> I feel like we could be more general here
[11:47] <marcustomlinson> ok
[11:49] <Laney> let me think
[11:49]  * Laney swooshes wise beard
[11:55] <Laney> marcustomlinson: something like https://gist.github.com/iainlane/10465ca8f5ddb1c90950ed836f9cf778 - would that work or am I missing something? (quite possible)
[11:56] <marcustomlinson> Laney: ah
[11:56] <marcustomlinson> though art smart
[11:57] <marcustomlinson> let me try that
[11:57]  * marcustomlinson can't spell thou
[11:59] <Laney> yeah I sort of feel like we'll end up chasing down a rabbit hole if we start trying to list relationships that already exist in the archive and we should be able to use apt to figure it out
[11:59] <Laney> hopefully that's right
[12:40] <marcustomlinson> Laney: yeah your code looks good. just wanted to make absolutely sure. manual testing and autopkgtests are good. pushed
[12:41]  * marcustomlinson is still amazed at how fast Laney wrote that code...
[13:39] <seb128> kenvandine, hey, any idea why I can't push to https://code.launchpad.net/snap-store ?
[13:40] <seb128> the project maintainer is ~ubuntu-desktop
[13:40] <seb128> so anyone from the team should be able to push no?
[13:40] <seb128> shrug
[13:40] <kenvandine> seb128: code isn't hosted on LP
[13:40] <seb128> I forgot again that it's maintain in gitlab
[13:40] <seb128> maintained
[13:40] <kenvandine> i thought i added a link to that
[13:40] <seb128> I just read the note I made you add last time :p
[13:40] <seb128> yeah, I just read it :p
[13:40] <seb128> ignore me
[13:40] <kenvandine> lol
[13:41] <kenvandine> there is a mirror on LP
[13:41] <kenvandine> for builds
[13:41] <seb128> kenvandine, is it fine it I commit a translation template in po/?
[13:41] <kenvandine> yes!
[13:41] <seb128> thx
[13:52] <Laney> marcustomlinson: 10x engineer innit
[13:53] <marcustomlinson> Software Engineer X
[13:53] <Laney> might ask Brian to review this branch now though
[13:54] <Laney> "why yes, that code I wrote looks great, ship it"
[14:21] <seb128> kenvandine, do you know how often it usually takes for the git mirror on launchpad to catch up new commits?
[14:39] <kenvandine> seb128: i think 5 hours
[14:40] <seb128> kenvandine, bah, patience! thanks
[14:40] <kenvandine> i can trigger it manually :)
[14:40] <seb128> please
[14:40] <seb128> how do you do that? maybe I can do myself?
[14:40] <didrocks> yeah, it’s between 5 to 6 hours
[14:41] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/snap-store/+git/snap-store
[14:41] <kenvandine> i clicked it
[14:41] <kenvandine> but it was actually going to run in 12 minutes :)
[14:51] <seb128> thx
[14:59] <seb128> didrocks, Wimpress, what was the plan for the pop-icon/gtk-theme packages, should we regularly update with what is in their ppa?
[14:59] <seb128> like now before focal release?
[15:13] <oSoMoN> chrisccoulson, ricotz: FYI https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox.focal/revision/1373
[15:14] <oSoMoN> I'll apply this change to the thunderbird packaging branches, too
[15:30] <Laney> Wimpress: Confirm that having "Ubuntu" booting to maybe-ubiquity and not "Try" / "Install" on grub (EFI) boot is the desired behaviour of the ISO please
[15:30] <Laney> xnox has a MP doing that and I'm ready to merge it
[15:30] <Laney> maybe confirm by voting approve on https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/debian-cd/no-try-only-do-in-grub/+merge/381967
[15:47] <kenvandine> seb128: bug 1870777
[15:47] <kenvandine> seb128: that made me realize we have strings provided by snapd-glib
[15:47] <kenvandine> so we need the same sort of translation export for snapd-glib
[15:48] <kenvandine> seb128: but maybe that's what you were working on?
[15:48] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm working on fixing the snap-store translations state
[15:48] <seb128> the template on https://translations.launchpad.net/snap-store was outdated
[15:49] <seb128> snapd-glib you build from source?
[15:49] <kenvandine> yes
[15:49] <seb128> I need to check the status of the upstream project translations
[15:49] <kenvandine> but we should be able to do the same sort of thing for those translations
[15:49] <seb128> well, no need
[15:50] <seb128> if upstream has the translations they should be installed by the part build?
[15:50] <kenvandine> oh
[15:50] <kenvandine> true
[15:50] <seb128> I will check that though
[15:50] <kenvandine> maybe they aren't translated yet
[15:50] <kenvandine> thanks!
[15:50] <seb128> speaking of
[15:50] <seb128> did you talk to Robert about fixing the build?
[15:50] <seb128> armhf build
[15:50] <kenvandine> ugh, sorry i forgot
[15:51] <kenvandine> i got distracted with the appstream issue :)
[15:51] <seb128> we really need that build to be fixed
[15:51] <kenvandine> which had me super stressed and up half the night :)
[15:51] <kenvandine> ok
[15:51] <kenvandine> i'll will email him now :)
[15:51] <seb128> it's annoying that he didn't track that by himself :/
[15:51] <seb128> thx
[15:52] <kenvandine> i've been pushing him really hard on snap-store related stuff
[15:52] <kenvandine> but yeah
[15:53] <seb128> also do you know if he's likely to have slots for the g-c-c bugs assigned to him tomorrow? freeze is coming
[15:55] <kenvandine> i'll talk to him about that too
[15:55] <seb128> thx, can you drop me an email or ask him to drop me one
[15:55] <kenvandine> so looking at update_excuses, snapd-glib seems to be only missing riscv64
[15:55] <seb128> I will try to pick the g-c-c changes tomorrow if he doesn't
[15:56] <seb128> oh, armhf built
[15:56] <seb128> I guess something else got fixed
[15:56] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd-glib/1.57-0ubuntu1/+build/19128842
[15:56] <seb128> it built on the 10th
[15:56] <seb128> when other archs built on the 6th
[16:48] <Wimpress> Laney: Yes, EFI booting should always boot to maybe-ubquity. 
[16:48] <Wimpress> Agreed with design and foundations last week.
[16:49] <Wimpress> Laney, I've added to the merge-proposal.
[16:49] <Laney> ta
[19:54] <diddledan> kenvandine, any chance we can get gtk2-common-themes snap released into i386?
[20:58] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, is https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/commit/?id=925d7d794e4d4ada393d070c5fa4560cd22d62a9 what you mean regarding the ubuntu-software package?
[20:58] <robert_ancell> i.e. that binary package is dead, and should now be empty?
[21:15] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: oh great
[21:16] <kenvandine> diddledan: not super excited about that.  As Ubuntu isn't supporting i386 anymore
[21:16] <kenvandine> diddledan: if we did, what happens when we really can't support it anymore?
[21:16] <kenvandine> i'd rather never turn it on than take it away from someone in 6 months or a year
[21:17] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: btw... the missing icons thing i think might be caused by Yaru app icons aren't in gtk-common-themes
[21:17] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: it's possible it isn't as bad as it looks... just need a rebuild of gtk-common-themes
[21:18] <kenvandine> which i'm doing now
[21:19] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, oh great = that is what we should do? I noticed that the snap-store deb only has the new branding on the beta channel. So I wasn't seeing the double icons here until I switched to that.
[21:20] <diddledan> well 18.04 supports i386 and we've got at least another 3 years of that release being active. then there's other distributions than ubuntu to consider
[21:20] <kenvandine> true
[21:21] <robert_ancell> seb128, do you know about the riscv64 build-failure for snapd-glib. Is that a required architecture?
[21:21] <diddledan> .. wait, riscv, robert_ancell?! :-o
[21:21] <diddledan> that's .. omg.
[21:22] <seb128> robert_ancell, don't worry about it, it shouldn't be a blocker and ubuntu-release is working on fixing the migration tools
[21:22] <sarnold> robert_ancell: probably best to treat it as supported, xnox said the other day when I added it to the security team faq that it ought to be lisetd as fully supported
[21:22] <robert_ancell> seb128, ok, cool.
[21:22] <robert_ancell> sarnold, in this case it seems the tests are timing out after 30s, which is not long enough. Is there a way to increase that?
[21:23] <robert_ancell> hmm, or is this meson doing this?
[21:23] <robert_ancell> aha, it is meson.
[21:25] <kenvandine> diddledan: i'll think about it
[21:26] <ogra> hrm ... snap-store segfaults for me on 16.04 Unity when clicking the updates button (it shows three updates in the tab)
[21:26] <ogra> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BfP52NJ399/
[21:27] <ogra> (trying the new beta here)
[21:43] <seb128> robert_ancell, did you see my snapd-glib email? would have been nice to add the dh-translations/--with translations change to the upload you just did, otherwise the lib is basically untranslated
[21:44] <robert_ancell> seb128, yeah, I thought I'd add those to a second release. The first fix is a no-brainer.
[21:45] <seb128> robert_ancell, k, the translation one is probably trivial as well but another upload is cheap enough
[21:45] <seb128> on that note calling it a day!
[21:45] <robert_ancell> seb128, night!
[21:45] <seb128> thx :-)
[22:32] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: confirmed, my fix in gtk-common-themes fixes snap-store :)
[22:32] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, nice!
[22:32] <kenvandine> looks much better now
[22:33] <kenvandine> gtk-common-themes had been stripping out icons in the apps dir to save space
[22:33] <kenvandine> most apps don't need app icons within the snap... but snap-store does :)