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xnoxLaney:  https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/debian-cd/revert-modaliases/+merge/382296 so i'm keeping casper_flavour bit => i.e. the work to support dual casper flavours.11:55
xnoxLaney:  unless you don't want that, then i can revert that too11:55
xnoxi.e. set casper_flavour="" is still there11:55
xnoxand $casper_flavour everywhere in the menu entries11:55
Laneyxnox: you're thinking we might need it later?12:00
xnoxLaney:  there is some bullshit for multiple flavours on subiquity images already. But I guess all that uses "BACKPORT_KERNEL" logic12:00
xnoxand generates hwe grub12:00
xnoxactually yeah, we don't need it.12:01
xnoxlet me purge the casper_flavour too then.12:01
Laneyheh12:01
xnoxLaney:  ok, PR updated. I'm happy with it now.12:06
Laneycool12:06
Laneyxnox: on the drop integrity one12:06
Laneywhat is CDIMAGE_INSTALL_BASE and why does that keep the option?12:06
Laneycould chase this all back up through ubuntu-cdimage but presumably you already know12:07
xnoxLaney: that is d-i based alternate installer12:07
xnoxWhich has d-i check.12:07
xnoxOr maybe it is that weird "live" image without ubiquity, with spliced "d-i" (i.e. reboot to install)12:07
Laneynever heard of that12:08
Laneyok it's set from cron.daily i.e. d-i12:08
Laneysounds legit12:08
xnoxThe code is written, it is possible to build all in one d-i & live image. Cause d-i kernel is in /boot, and Casper is in /Casper. Etc.12:09
xnoxPlus the kernel arg is different for d-i integrity check I think. It's MENU=bin/cdrom/-checker that doesn't exist on ubiquity images12:11
Laneyi gettit12:13
Laneysucks that we keep tools/boot/ALL THE RELEASES12:13
Laneymakes grepping annoying12:13
Laneyalso that we have tools/boot/focal/things that are unused12:14
xnoxso svn12:27
Laneyxnox: why can't I see where maybe-ubiquity was set before your MP12:38
xnoxLaney:  for grub, it never was.12:39
xnoxLaney:  grub only did "Try ubuntu" & "Install ubuntu"12:40
Laneyno for isolinux12:40
xnoxLaney:  and maybe-ubiquity in bios, is baked into the default arg for silent12:40
LaneyI think "Try $HUMANPROJECT without installing" is wrong and it should be "Start $HUMAMNPROJECT" like Kubuntu has12:41
xnoxthat breaks translations12:42
xnoxand the UX is bad, and doesn't match the installed system.12:42
xnoxi hate the "Start" thing12:42
xnoxLaney:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vRHwnpf4dm/ is where maybe-ubiquity is set for bios boot12:43
Laneyhow does it break translations if kubuntu uses it?12:43
xnoxLaney:  cause they didn't translate it, and we are not changing bios boot.12:43
Laneyoh in a different project OF COURSE12:43
xnoxand that12:43
xnoxto me, making entries for installer look as close as possible for post boot, is nice.12:44
xnoxand after install the default boot entry is just "Ubuntu"12:44
Laneyso what is Try without installing?!?!?!12:44
xnoxit boot simply to the live session and one sees desktop12:45
xnoxaka the current efi behaviour on bionic12:46
xnoxLaney:  do you want hangout? i can broadcast the old & new behaviour of all options12:46
Laneyit's ok12:46
LaneyI've got to go eat some food, it will probably make sense once I've done that12:46
xnoxmaybe-ubiquity & only-ubiquity => they go to ubuntu-dm, and either show two buttons to "try" & "install", or it has just the installer mode.12:46
Laneyyeah I know how the options map to what you end up seeing12:47
xnox"nothing" => just boots and autologs in12:47
Laneyah you added a livelabelgrub12:47
LaneyI seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee12:47
Laneyok brb12:47
xnoxyes i did that =)12:48
Laneyman15:11
Laneymerging all these branches at the same time is scary15:11
Laneyxnox: I don't know about all the implications of the "legacy-server" stuff, maybe ask vorlon to take a look?15:33
Laney"ubuntu-server" is encoded all over the place15:33
xnoxLaney:  i know, indeed vorlon is on the hook to review that bit.15:36
xnoxLaney:  we will break people, and that's why we are changing the name.15:37
xnoxLaney:  and like i kind of want to prepublish & publish "legacy" beta once this lands.15:37
LaneyIt's more pieces of our infrastructure that expect the current name that I'm worried about atm15:44
Laneyhappy for vorlon to take that on15:44
Laneyxnox: it's in, want a build?16:51
Laneyor try tomorrow's daily16:51
xnoxLaney:  i can't tell what's in =( /me pushes buttons to import mirror16:57
Laneymuhahah16:57
xnoxLaney:  i think i want desktop image respins17:00
xnoxLaney:  can you trigger those?17:00
Laneyxnox: ok I'll give you an amd64 without livefs18:33
Laneyit is running18:33
xnoxtah19:27
xnoxvery sensible!19:28
xnoxLaney:  somehow i know that from the logs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20200415.2 should exist, but it does not21:28

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