[11:55] <xnox> Laney:  https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/debian-cd/revert-modaliases/+merge/382296 so i'm keeping casper_flavour bit => i.e. the work to support dual casper flavours.
[11:55] <xnox> Laney:  unless you don't want that, then i can revert that too
[11:55] <xnox> i.e. set casper_flavour="" is still there
[11:55] <xnox> and $casper_flavour everywhere in the menu entries
[12:00] <Laney> xnox: you're thinking we might need it later?
[12:00] <xnox> Laney:  there is some bullshit for multiple flavours on subiquity images already. But I guess all that uses "BACKPORT_KERNEL" logic
[12:00] <xnox> and generates hwe grub
[12:01] <xnox> actually yeah, we don't need it.
[12:01] <xnox> let me purge the casper_flavour too then.
[12:01] <Laney> heh
[12:06] <xnox> Laney:  ok, PR updated. I'm happy with it now.
[12:06] <Laney> cool
[12:06] <Laney> xnox: on the drop integrity one
[12:06] <Laney> what is CDIMAGE_INSTALL_BASE and why does that keep the option?
[12:07] <Laney> could chase this all back up through ubuntu-cdimage but presumably you already know
[12:07] <xnox> Laney: that is d-i based alternate installer
[12:07] <xnox> Which has d-i check.
[12:07] <xnox> Or maybe it is that weird "live" image without ubiquity, with spliced "d-i" (i.e. reboot to install)
[12:08] <Laney> never heard of that
[12:08] <Laney> ok it's set from cron.daily i.e. d-i
[12:08] <Laney> sounds legit
[12:09] <xnox> The code is written, it is possible to build all in one d-i & live image. Cause d-i kernel is in /boot, and Casper is in /Casper. Etc.
[12:11] <xnox> Plus the kernel arg is different for d-i integrity check I think. It's MENU=bin/cdrom/-checker that doesn't exist on ubiquity images
[12:13] <Laney> i gettit
[12:13] <Laney> sucks that we keep tools/boot/ALL THE RELEASES
[12:13] <Laney> makes grepping annoying
[12:14] <Laney> also that we have tools/boot/focal/things that are unused
[12:27] <xnox> so svn
[12:38] <Laney> xnox: why can't I see where maybe-ubiquity was set before your MP
[12:39] <xnox> Laney:  for grub, it never was.
[12:40] <xnox> Laney:  grub only did "Try ubuntu" & "Install ubuntu"
[12:40] <Laney> no for isolinux
[12:40] <xnox> Laney:  and maybe-ubiquity in bios, is baked into the default arg for silent
[12:41] <Laney> I think "Try $HUMANPROJECT without installing" is wrong and it should be "Start $HUMAMNPROJECT" like Kubuntu has
[12:42] <xnox> that breaks translations
[12:42] <xnox> and the UX is bad, and doesn't match the installed system.
[12:42] <xnox> i hate the "Start" thing
[12:43] <xnox> Laney:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vRHwnpf4dm/ is where maybe-ubiquity is set for bios boot
[12:43] <Laney> how does it break translations if kubuntu uses it?
[12:43] <xnox> Laney:  cause they didn't translate it, and we are not changing bios boot.
[12:43] <Laney> oh in a different project OF COURSE
[12:43] <xnox> and that
[12:44] <xnox> to me, making entries for installer look as close as possible for post boot, is nice.
[12:44] <xnox> and after install the default boot entry is just "Ubuntu"
[12:44] <Laney> so what is Try without installing?!?!?!
[12:45] <xnox> it boot simply to the live session and one sees desktop
[12:46] <xnox> aka the current efi behaviour on bionic
[12:46] <xnox> Laney:  do you want hangout? i can broadcast the old & new behaviour of all options
[12:46] <Laney> it's ok
[12:46] <Laney> I've got to go eat some food, it will probably make sense once I've done that
[12:46] <xnox> maybe-ubiquity & only-ubiquity => they go to ubuntu-dm, and either show two buttons to "try" & "install", or it has just the installer mode.
[12:47] <Laney> yeah I know how the options map to what you end up seeing
[12:47] <xnox> "nothing" => just boots and autologs in
[12:47] <Laney> ah you added a livelabelgrub
[12:47] <Laney> I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:47] <Laney> ok brb
[12:48] <xnox> yes i did that =)
[15:11] <Laney> man
[15:11] <Laney> merging all these branches at the same time is scary
[15:33] <Laney> xnox: I don't know about all the implications of the "legacy-server" stuff, maybe ask vorlon to take a look?
[15:33] <Laney> "ubuntu-server" is encoded all over the place
[15:36] <xnox> Laney:  i know, indeed vorlon is on the hook to review that bit.
[15:37] <xnox> Laney:  we will break people, and that's why we are changing the name.
[15:37] <xnox> Laney:  and like i kind of want to prepublish & publish "legacy" beta once this lands.
[15:44] <Laney> It's more pieces of our infrastructure that expect the current name that I'm worried about atm
[15:44] <Laney> happy for vorlon to take that on
[16:51] <Laney> xnox: it's in, want a build?
[16:51] <Laney> or try tomorrow's daily
[16:57] <xnox> Laney:  i can't tell what's in =( /me pushes buttons to import mirror
[16:57] <Laney> muhahah
[17:00] <xnox> Laney:  i think i want desktop image respins
[17:00] <xnox> Laney:  can you trigger those?
[18:33] <Laney> xnox: ok I'll give you an amd64 without livefs
[18:33] <Laney> it is running
[19:27] <xnox> tah
[19:28] <xnox> very sensible!
[21:28] <xnox> Laney:  somehow i know that from the logs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20200415.2 should exist, but it does not