[11:55] Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/debian-cd/revert-modaliases/+merge/382296 so i'm keeping casper_flavour bit => i.e. the work to support dual casper flavours. [11:55] Laney: unless you don't want that, then i can revert that too [11:55] i.e. set casper_flavour="" is still there [11:55] and $casper_flavour everywhere in the menu entries [12:00] xnox: you're thinking we might need it later? [12:00] Laney: there is some bullshit for multiple flavours on subiquity images already. But I guess all that uses "BACKPORT_KERNEL" logic [12:00] and generates hwe grub [12:01] actually yeah, we don't need it. [12:01] let me purge the casper_flavour too then. [12:01] heh [12:06] Laney: ok, PR updated. I'm happy with it now. [12:06] cool [12:06] xnox: on the drop integrity one [12:06] what is CDIMAGE_INSTALL_BASE and why does that keep the option? [12:07] could chase this all back up through ubuntu-cdimage but presumably you already know [12:07] Laney: that is d-i based alternate installer [12:07] Which has d-i check. [12:07] Or maybe it is that weird "live" image without ubiquity, with spliced "d-i" (i.e. reboot to install) [12:08] never heard of that [12:08] ok it's set from cron.daily i.e. d-i [12:08] sounds legit [12:09] The code is written, it is possible to build all in one d-i & live image. Cause d-i kernel is in /boot, and Casper is in /Casper. Etc. [12:11] Plus the kernel arg is different for d-i integrity check I think. It's MENU=bin/cdrom/-checker that doesn't exist on ubiquity images [12:13] i gettit [12:13] sucks that we keep tools/boot/ALL THE RELEASES [12:13] makes grepping annoying [12:14] also that we have tools/boot/focal/things that are unused [12:27] so svn [12:38] xnox: why can't I see where maybe-ubiquity was set before your MP [12:39] Laney: for grub, it never was. [12:40] Laney: grub only did "Try ubuntu" & "Install ubuntu" [12:40] no for isolinux [12:40] Laney: and maybe-ubiquity in bios, is baked into the default arg for silent [12:41] I think "Try $HUMANPROJECT without installing" is wrong and it should be "Start $HUMAMNPROJECT" like Kubuntu has [12:42] that breaks translations [12:42] and the UX is bad, and doesn't match the installed system. [12:42] i hate the "Start" thing [12:43] Laney: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vRHwnpf4dm/ is where maybe-ubiquity is set for bios boot [12:43] how does it break translations if kubuntu uses it? [12:43] Laney: cause they didn't translate it, and we are not changing bios boot. [12:43] oh in a different project OF COURSE [12:43] and that [12:44] to me, making entries for installer look as close as possible for post boot, is nice. [12:44] and after install the default boot entry is just "Ubuntu" [12:44] so what is Try without installing?!?!?! [12:45] it boot simply to the live session and one sees desktop [12:46] aka the current efi behaviour on bionic [12:46] Laney: do you want hangout? i can broadcast the old & new behaviour of all options [12:46] it's ok [12:46] I've got to go eat some food, it will probably make sense once I've done that [12:46] maybe-ubiquity & only-ubiquity => they go to ubuntu-dm, and either show two buttons to "try" & "install", or it has just the installer mode. [12:47] yeah I know how the options map to what you end up seeing [12:47] "nothing" => just boots and autologs in [12:47] ah you added a livelabelgrub [12:47] I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [12:47] ok brb [12:48] yes i did that =) [15:11] man [15:11] merging all these branches at the same time is scary [15:33] xnox: I don't know about all the implications of the "legacy-server" stuff, maybe ask vorlon to take a look? [15:33] "ubuntu-server" is encoded all over the place [15:36] Laney: i know, indeed vorlon is on the hook to review that bit. [15:37] Laney: we will break people, and that's why we are changing the name. [15:37] Laney: and like i kind of want to prepublish & publish "legacy" beta once this lands. [15:44] It's more pieces of our infrastructure that expect the current name that I'm worried about atm [15:44] happy for vorlon to take that on [16:51] xnox: it's in, want a build? [16:51] or try tomorrow's daily [16:57] Laney: i can't tell what's in =( /me pushes buttons to import mirror [16:57] muhahah [17:00] Laney: i think i want desktop image respins [17:00] Laney: can you trigger those? [18:33] xnox: ok I'll give you an amd64 without livefs [18:33] it is running [19:27] tah [19:28] very sensible! [21:28] Laney: somehow i know that from the logs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20200415.2 should exist, but it does not