 hope you filed the upgrade testcase :D (re @MrkiMike: UbuntuMATE 20.04, so far, beautiful :D)
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> anyone on -desktop try this please bug #1872802
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> other graphic cards might be interesting to test this
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> RikMills: just for info, had one of our volunteers have this on kubuntu https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DFs6FwPDYG/
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> someone helped him to dpkg force things to fix
[06:56] <RikMills> lotuspsychje: thanks. I will fix that later today
[07:48] <andres_> Hi all! My name is andres, noob on linux and this is my first time I test an ubuntu version. I hve found 3 things I dont know what is the problem.
[07:49] <andres_> I'm testing Kubuntu 20.04
[07:51] <andres_> first: When I install a theme on global themes menu, if I want to unninstall the theme I dont see the remove icon when I put the mouse on theme to be uninstall. I have to open the press the "get new global themes" button and search the theme and click to uninstall button
[07:53] <andres_> second: If I remove a theme, this theme does not disappear from themes window.
[07:57] <andres_> third: I'm not able to close window with double click on menu icon from window. I dont know if it is a problem or not because this problem run with a lot installed themes not by default.
[11:55] <RikMills> lotuspsychje: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ksmtp/19.12.3-0ubuntu2
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> tnx RikMills
 welcome geremias
 /✌️
 /
[15:09] <ubuntu-tester94w> im testing ubuntu studio 20.04 since 3 days, wifi keeps disconnecting im not sure if this is a known bug
[15:10] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-tester94w: So, you're the first person to mention this out of possibly hundreds of people. Sounds like a hardware problem on your end.
 ubuntu-tester94w: does this happen with previous versions of ubuntu?
[15:11] <ubuntu-tester94w> thats why i said im not sure + i can call myself a newbie in linux but i want to help as much as i can
 geremias which flavor are you testing today?
[15:11] <ubuntu-tester94w> it doesnt happen on 18.04
[15:12] <ubuntu-tester94w> im using ubuntu studio
[15:12] <oerheks> what wireless chipset exactly?
[15:12] <ubuntu-tester94w> it happened also on 19.10
[15:12] <oerheks> some are known troublemakers
 if it didnt happen in 18.04 then it sounds like a regression and you should file a bug for it
[15:12] <Eickmeyer> @philipz: Not necessarily. Some chipsets are known troublemakers with newer kernels.
[15:13] <ubuntu-tester94w> broadcom 802.11 linux sta wireless driver source from bcmwl-kernel-source (proprietary)
[15:13] <Eickmeyer> Ok, that might be why. Broadcom wireless is known to be problematic.
[15:14] <Eickmeyer> Especially with the lowlatency flavor of the kernel.
[15:14] <ubuntu-tester94w> ok thank you for that. if i disable that is there a way to use another one?
[15:15] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-tester94w: Try installing the linux-generic kernel and see if that helps. The lowlatency kernel is only useful if you're doing lowlatency audio work.
[15:15] <Eickmeyer> And, if you're doing lowlatency audio work, it's best to disable wifi anyhow.
[15:15] <ubuntu-tester94w> indeed thats why i got the ubuntu studio. planning to use it for audio production.
[15:16] <ubuntu-tester94w> yes you are right
[15:16] <ubuntu-tester94w> i will cope with that. waiting to get a thinkpad and try it there also
[15:17] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-tester94w: Then yeah. Disabling wifi is best when doing audio work as it tends to interfere and cause xruns.
[15:17] <Eickmeyer> You can, however, have both kernels installed simultaneously and boot to whichever you want.
 Has anyone tried smplayer recently on focal? The upstream new versions (we don't have) say they fix compatibility with mpv 0.32, which we do have. Implying that our smplayer version might be broken with our mpv.
 or can anyone test :)
[15:50] <oerheks> smplayer 19.10.2~ds0-1build1  is current
 no, it's not
[15:51] <RikMills> latest is 20.4.2
[15:51] <RikMills> https://www.smplayer.info/en/changes
[15:51] <RikMills> 'Support for mpv 0.32'
[15:52] <RikMills> oerheks: oh, you mean our current? yes, that is true
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> tested, seems to working here RikMills
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> anything specific we should try?
[15:53] <RikMills> lotuspsychje: sadly it does not say what was changed to support the new mpv
[15:56] <RikMills> if it is not massively or obviously broken, might be patches to cherry pick if bugs get reported
[15:57] <RikMills> previous updates for mpv compatibility were because some controls did not work with the new mpv. i.e. mpv had changed the commands/codes needed to be sent to it
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> RikMills: i cant see things broken on smplayer or mpv yet here
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> both playing movie like a charm
[15:58] <RikMills> good. hopefully it mean any issue the upstream author fixed is minor :)
[16:08] <ubuntu-tester97w> anyone having issues with snap store on ubuntu studio? it looks like a gui bug
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> elaborate ubuntu-tester97w whats happening exactly?
[16:11] <ubuntu-tester97w> ubuntu studio 20.04 beta, when i open snap store it appears transparent and windows dimension weird
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-tester97w: im getting weird things aswell, but i presume its still being worked on
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> im on -desktop, and when opening snap store, ubuntu software launches, update of snap store is showing but im getting error updating it
[16:16] <ubuntu-tester97w> it seems to work btw but its completely transparent, i can see the icons, and i see my desktop through
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> maybe popey or Eickmeyer know more of this?
[16:16] <popey> hello
[16:16] <popey> wassup?
[16:17] <ubuntu-tester97w> hi there. so snao store looks completely transparent, i can see the icons, and i see my desktop through
[16:17] <ubuntu-tester97w> snap*
[16:17] <popey> can you put a screenshot in imgur or something?
[16:17] <ubuntu-tester97w> yes right now
[16:18] <popey> thanks
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> im just getting update problems https://imgur.com/a/F0AdmuA
[16:19] <ubuntu-tester97w> https://postimg.cc/qzZqMDsM
[16:19] <popey> ooh funky
[16:20] <popey> env | grep SESS
[16:20] <popey> you running wayland or x11?
[16:20] <ubuntu-tester97w> just ubuntu studio straight, didnt check if its wayland or x11
[16:21] <popey> if you open a terminal and run "env | grep SESS" it will tell you
[16:21] <popey> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
[16:21] <popey> or just echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[16:22] <popey> also try from a terminal "sudo snap refresh snap-store --edge" and then restart your session, see if that "fixes" it (I am not convinced it will)
[16:22] <ubuntu-tester97w> x11
[16:22] <popey> ok, good
[16:23] <ubuntu-tester97w> im doing the refresh
[16:23] <ubuntu-tester97w> lets see
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> update issue fixed, with update-manager auto snap updates here
[16:28] <ubuntu-tester27w> ok so i tried sudo snap refresh snap-store --edge and restarted and now snap store is missing popey
[16:28] <popey> it's probably called "Ubuntu software" in the menu?
[16:28] <popey> (which is what it should be on ubuntu )
[16:29] <popey> (i am asking you to try this because edge contains latest build of the application, and if fixed there, means we don't need a bug filed)
[16:29] <ubuntu-tester27w> no its the same :/
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> clicking the snap-store open now ubuntu software on -desktop
[16:30] <popey> ok, I would file a bug with a screenshot then please. https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/
[16:30] <ubuntu-tester27w> ok thnks
[16:39] <popey> ubuntu-tester27w are you based in the USA?
[16:39] <ubuntu-tester27w> no
[16:40] <ubuntu-tester27w> Albania
[16:40] <popey> Good, can I ask you to tell me which mirror is listed in /etc/apt/sources.list) ?
[16:40] <popey> and did you change mirror, or did it auto-choose the one listed there
[16:40] <ubuntu-tester27w> yes i changed to main
[16:40] <popey> ah okay
[16:40] <popey> never mind then
[16:41]  * popey wonders what calamares does, if it uses a local mirror or not.
 i think @ItzSwirlz reported this same transparency a while back
 ?
 i know ubuntu for weirdly adding the weird cd-rom apt repo thing (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <popey> wonders what calamares does, if it uses a local mirror or not.)
 was it you who found transparency issue with snap store
 no
 i'm doing release notes right now xD
 my mistake, but i do remember someone mentioning it here.
 its fine
 damn. Cinnamon v4.0.10 to v4.4.8-3
 A lot has changed lol
 here it was (re @Udange: )
 hm
 Okay so
 ugh forgot what i was going to say, horray
 oh eys
 oh yes (edited)
 As mentioned, Ubuntu Cinnamon's theme is pretty problematic. We can all agree it's not the best
 I think instead we will fork Mint themes-well not exactly fork
 Instead, use their compiler thing to build a #DD682A theme
 Udange did you file a bug report for the transparent software center bug you reported?
 ubuntu-tester27w: do paste the link here once you file the bug
[17:00] <ubuntu-tester26w> ubuntutestingbot i will do that
[17:00] <ubuntu-tester26w> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1873033
 thanks ubuntu-tester27w. please give as much info on your system to help with tracking down the issue.
 possibly copy and paste the output of 'inxi -b'
[17:04] <ubuntu-tester26w> ok sure
[17:05] <ubuntu-tester26w> shpuld i write system info in the bug description section?
 found a duplidoge and its saying that its a theming issue - https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1867417
 calamres-settings-ubuntu has a python script to set the sources based on GeoIP. If it can't determine the Geolodogion it uses main. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <popey> wonders what calamares does, if it uses a local mirror or not.)
 Are ubuntu flavors/remixes allowed to choose their own GRUB theme that isn't like Ubuntu's-something a little more different like Linux Mint or a more glossy selector?
[17:21] <Eickmeyer> @ItzSwirls Yes, I created a custom GRUB theme for Studio.
[17:21] <Eickmeyer> MATE started it.
[17:22] <Eickmeyer> Feel free to fork.
 more polls :p
 alright-heres the Ubuntu Cinnamon 20.04 Release Notes. Will deal with images later https://docs.google.com/document/d/1McPbDnXTP4W8EbqvRP3QKfEqW-fYH97oeqkPK4r0mwY/edit?usp=sharing
 (private link)
[18:18] <ubuntu-tester26w> when i try to resize any window in ubuntu studio 20.04 (beta), goinf to the right bottom corner its pretty difficult to get the proper arrow for the specific type. it would be great for this to be much easier if possible
[18:23] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-tester26w: Limitation of the GTK theme, I'm afraid.
[18:24] <Eickmeyer> Actually, it's a limitation of Xfce.
[18:25] <ubuntu-tester26w> Eickmeyer is there any workaround or maybe request feature to xfce developers
[18:25] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-tester26w: alt-space, resize
[18:26] <ubuntu-tester26w> yeah great :)
 or alt + right-click + drag
 https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[18:29] <ubuntu-tester26w> ubuntutestingbot thnks!
[22:13] <bduncan> hey, i've been  running the kubuntu beta upgraded from eoan for about a month now. today i tried to upgrade some packages for the new kde upstream release and it looks like some packages are missing... aptitude's resolver says the problem is: libkf5akonadicore5abi1 depends upon libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 (= 4:19.04.3-0ubuntu6) and libkf5eventviews5 depends upon libkf5akonadicore5abi1 (>= 4:19.04.3). should i file a
[22:13] <bduncan> bug about this? seems like it might be a simple oversight which will be fixed soon...
[22:23] <ubuntu-tester13w> extracting .tar.xz on ubuntu studio 20.04(beta) seems to not work well. after extract here, the folder does not show. after closing and opening the file manager than its there
[22:24] <ubuntu-tester13w> but it may happen that even reopening the file manager will not work. i would need to extract one more time and than it will show 2 folders
[22:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> bduncan: There's a lot of stuff getting upgraded still. I'd be patient before filing a bug.
[22:29] <ubuntu-tester13w> https://postimg.cc/S2LGTQ9S
[22:30] <ubuntu-tester13w> here it is how it looks after being extracted
[22:30] <ubuntu-tester13w> it shows like a text file beneath
[22:32] <Eickmeyer[m]> ubuntu-tester97w: I'm unable to reproduce. @philipz, have you had that issue on Xubuntu? ^ (Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio use the same DE, file extractor, and file manager).
[22:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> Sorry, ubuntu-tester97w^
[22:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> Dangit... ubuntu-tester-13w^
[22:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> ubuntu-tester-13w: Thunar can be slow sometimes, not sure if it's a known bug or not.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> The Xubuntu team handles anything Xfce-related like that.
[22:35] <ubuntu-tester13w> yeah i noticed that it takes a bit to extract indeed
[22:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> The file extractor is Engrampa, which is a MATE tool iirc.
[22:36] <ubuntu-tester13w> i will need to wait and see
[22:39] <bduncan> Eickmeyer[m]: no problem thanks
[23:05] <bduncan> my googling skills are weak. is there a way i can watch/follow/rss updates to the ubuntu repositories? frantically hitting "update" seems backwards
 Eickmeyer[m]: no problem on xubuntu for me
[23:10] <RikMills> bduncan: the lower versions of those packages should not be needed any more, but it looks like yesterday launchpad had a glitch when copying the newer .debs that don't need them :(
[23:11] <RikMills> I am talking to archive admins
[23:12] <RikMills> apparently this is something that could happen, but they have never seen before!
[23:12] <RikMills> I am so lucky! lol
[23:44] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Fancy odds. Too bad you couldn't have used those at a casino.