[00:15] <kryten> MMC: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/focal/beta/ - the Beta is a few days old by now, but it does have a torrent.  Otherwise, there are surely mirrors near to you that have it.
[00:17] <Guest86477> hello all, I would love to know how to install Ubuntu as i am new to it and have been struggling for way to many hours and have downloaded over 6Gb's of install file - yet to no luck running ubuntu
[00:19] <guiverc> Guest86477, have you looked at the manual; ie. https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/Installing_lubuntu.html  (chapter 1.1 retrieving the image), 1.2 booting image, 1.3 installation..
[00:21] <Guest86477> no not yet let me take a look. AND thank you so much for this tip. i will be back shortly. :)
[00:22] <guiverc> fyi: that manual is for latest stable release, ie. 19.10  (if you're using an old x86 [32bit only] box you'll need 18.04)
[00:25] <Guest86477> Thank you so much Guiverc - I am downloading it as we speak.
[00:33] <MMC> Cheers kryten - I tracked down the torrent link for the Beta. There were lots of Ubuntu mirrors, but Lubuntu mirrors were a little sparse in my search.
[00:34] <Guest86477> i have downloaded Rufus but it does not launch. Any suggestions?
[00:34] <guiverc> Guest86477, I cannot help with rufus, I've never used it
[00:35] <guiverc> to help write ISO to thumbdrive, generic help can be https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/create-a-bootable-usb-stick-on-ubuntu/14011
[00:35] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/create-a-bootable-usb-stick-on-windows/14020
[00:35] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/create-a-bootable-usb-stick-on-macos/14016
[00:37] <Guest86477> thank you so much for your assistance. let me get back to some designing while the download is running. take care
[00:38] <guiverc> You're most welcome
[00:45] <kryten> MMC: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors - is the complete mirror list fwiw.  But yeah, many more of these just do Ubuntu proper, and then there are ones that just do specific flavors.
[01:00] <guiverc> thanks kryten :)   Guest86477 PM'd me so I provided thank link there when I realized I'd provided archive link..
[01:02] <kryten> Congrats on confusing me completely now! >_>
[01:02] <kryten> But you are welcome!
[01:03] <guiverc> sorry for sharing my normal-confused state :)
[05:53] <JMallone> hi folks
 hi folk
[09:37] <dongyi_> Hi.
[10:14] <ossama> asl?
[16:34] <Jordan> Hello I just did a fresh install of lubuntu on my Dell inspiron 1545. Currently it boots up
[16:35] <Jordan> And into the blank default background image with no curser, icons or any way to finish setup or login
[16:36] <Jordan> Cannot figure it out
[17:22] <Ev0luti0n_> guys!
[17:23] <wxl> and girls
 Yinz
[17:45] <Ev0luti0n_> wxl: long time lubuntu user?
[17:46] <Ev0luti0n_> just go to install yet two days ago, after 3 years on an ancient Netbook. Astonished at the performance, simplicity and beauty.
[17:46] <wxl> yeah that's what we do :)
[17:49] <Ev0luti0n_> Surprised at how everything works out of the box. Even KDEConnect with my Android phone. damn
[17:49] <wxl> glad you're enjoying it so much :)
[17:57] <Ev0luti0n_> wxl: considering it's a netbook from 2009... and had a quantum leap on performance. I can actually watch youtube lag free.. firefox opens within seconds, instead of half a minute.. to name just one thing. lol
[17:58] <Ev0luti0n_> https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-AS1410-8804-11-6-Inch-Laptop/product-reviews/B002LEVGMO
[17:58] <Ev0luti0n_> anyway.. enough rambling! time to idle
[17:58] <wxl> heheh idle away
[18:55] <linuxnoobhelp> hi
[19:12] <rjCousineau> Hello, I'm trying to download lubuntu but I get 404
[19:12] <wxl> rjCousineau: from where?
[19:13] <rjCousineau> https://lubuntu.net/downloads/
[19:13] <wxl> look at the topic
[19:13] <wxl> you'll see .net isn't mentioned anywhere
[19:13] <wxl> it's not our website
[19:13] <rjCousineau> lol what
[19:13] <wxl> look at the license at the bottom of the site
[19:14] <wxl> hah they haven't even put up links to 19.10 and that's been out since last september
[19:14] <wxl> it's really terrible but they refuse to take it down and insist on confusing people
[19:19] <rjCousineau> Thanks for the clarification.  Damn pirates..
[21:13] <redes2020> 7
[21:14] <Pascal_B> hi everybody ! I installed LXQt but I don't know how to switch from LXDE to LXQt : can you help me for it please ?
[21:14] <wxl> you can't easily
[21:15] <Pascal_B> @wxl : nice, so how can I do ?
[21:17] <Pascal_B> is there a guide for it ?
[21:17] <wxl> Pascal_B: there should be an lxde metapackage. that's about the best you can do. but it is not customized or maintained by the lubuntu team so again it won't be easy
[21:17] <wxl> Pascal_B: frankly lxde is incredibly stale and unmaintained. it wouldn't suggest it on anyone
[21:19] <Pascal_B> yes it's for that I want to switch from LXDE to LXQt...
[21:19] <Pascal_B> I thought it was simpler
[21:19] <wxl> because you want to see how bad it is?
[21:20] <Pascal_B> I currently work on LXDE, it's not amazing but relatively stable
[21:21] <wxl> i didn't say stable. i said stale.
[21:21] <kryten> Pascal_B: What Lubuntu version fwiw?
[21:21] <Pascal_B> yes I understood. I work on 18.04 LTS
[21:21] <kryten> Figured.
[21:21] <wxl> uh
[21:22] <wxl> 18.04 *IS* lxde
[21:22] <Pascal_B> what ?
[21:24] <wxl> 18.04 comes with LXDE installed
[21:24] <Pascal_B> by default I should have LXQt installed but when I installed the distro, I didn't have choice
[21:24] <wxl> not LXQt
[21:24] <wxl> the version of LXQt in 18.04 is not really ready for prime time
[21:25] <Pascal_B> you have complete lxqt packages available in the distro
[21:25] <Pascal_B> I installed them but I don't know how switch from LXDE to LXQt...
[21:26] <wxl> they weren't really in a really stable usable state, which is why we didn't offer them as the default in 18.04
[21:26] <wxl> if you want to try LXQt, install 19.10
[21:27] <wxl> if you're really intent on switching between the two in 18.04, the session manager should offer an LXQt session as it does an LXDE, Openbox, and Lubuntu (default) session
[21:29] <Pascal_B> yes I thought it but when I arrive on logon window it doesn't work I can select LXQt but after entered I have nothing
[21:31] <wxl> i would call LXQt in 18.04 unsupported by the Lubuntu team in case that wasn't obvious
[21:33] <Pascal_B> so you think I can't use it on 18.04 and I have to update my distro to 19.10 ?
[21:36] <wxl> LXQt is, at best, experimental in 18.04. i would not call it usable. that is why we did not release 18.04 with LXQt.
[21:36] <wxl> it was our goal, but ultimately we were unable to realize it
[21:40] <Pascal_B> ok so I have to consider I can't use LXQt on this version ? so how can I update y distro from 18.04 to 19.10 please ?
[21:44] <wxl> correct. `do-release-upgrade` should do the trick
[21:47] <kryten> Pascal_B: 1.) You could try out the 20.04 Beta on a USB stick right now.  2.) If you decide that you want it, I'd do a fresh install when it's released next week - since the move to another desktop environment is gonna leave a lot of cruft behind otherwise.
[21:47] <wxl> oh right
[21:47] <wxl> i forgot about that
[21:47] <wxl> the lxqt version of lubuntu isn't the lxde version with a different desktop environment. it's a completely revamped system with all different applications
[21:48] <wxl> so the transition between the two versions is not going to go without a hitch
[21:50] <wxl> probably due to the bug there
[21:50] <Pascal_B> ok when you talk about "fresh install" do you mean complete reinstall from scratch (with HDD formatting) ?
[21:53] <kryten> Yes, basically.
[21:54] <kryten> (The formatting part depends on your current scheme.)
[21:54] <kryten> You could even install it alongside your current system then.
[21:55] <Pascal_B> yes but I mean I can't reuse a part of 18.04 version ?
[21:55] <wxl> you could, but it's goig to be a big ugly mess
[21:56] <Pascal_B> yes of course, thanks for the precision
[21:56] <Pascal_B> and when do you think the 20.04 will be stable ?
[21:56] <wxl> i mean it pretty much already is but it's set to be released on the 23rd
[22:02] <Pascal_B> ok so you advise me to wait for the 23rd ?
[22:04] <wxl> no you could install it now
[22:04] <wxl> or if you're really worried about it, install 19.10 and upgrade to 20.04 on the 23rd
[22:08] <Pascal_B> ok I will try this second solution. can I consider that 'do-release-ugrade' is enough and I don't need to exec previous command like 'apt update', 'apt remove'
[22:08] <Pascal_B> and others...
[22:08] <Pascal_B>  ?
[22:10] <wxl> it should do that as part of the process
[22:11] <Pascal_B> ok thank you for all your advices