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callmepkGood Morning03:08
dufluHi callmepk 03:19
callmepkHi duflu03:21
KGB-2gnome-control-center ubuntu/master d1a1f5c Robert Ancell debian/ changelog patches/series patches/0027-window-Stop-using-HdyLeaflet.patch patches/0028-applications-Fix-only-connected-snap-interfaces-show.patch * https://deb.li/3kM6M03:46
KGB-2* debian/patches/0027-window-Stop-using-HdyLeaflet.patch:03:46
KGB-2  - Disable adaptive layouts, theres some bugs and they're not required on03:46
KGB-2    desktop (LP: #1871195)03:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 1871195 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "The adaptive layouts aren't working properly" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187119503:46
KGB-2* debian/patches/0028-applications-Fix-only-connected-snap-interfaces-show.patch:03:46
KGB-2  - Fix disconnected snap interfaces not showing (LP: #1870600)03:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 1870600 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "permissions pane only shows currently-connected snap interfaces" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187060003:46
KGB-2gnome-control-center Robert Ancell 155549 * commented merge request !14 * https://deb.li/dcZc03:57
KGB-2gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 5d361e4 Robert Ancell debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * https://deb.li/3PVIl04:18
KGB-2* debian/patches/0029-applications-Use-new-snapd-glib-API-for-labelling-Sn.patch:04:18
KGB-2* debian/control:04:18
KGB-2  - Use shared names for snap interfaces, fixing some interfaces that don't04:18
KGB-2    have labels.04:18
KGB-2gnome-control-center Gunnar Hjalmarsson 155563 * commented merge request !14 * https://deb.li/3ZBHh05:49
jibelhi $world06:04
dufluHello jibel 06:11
jibelgood morning duflu 06:12
didrocksgood morning06:24
dufluhi didrocks 06:26
duflubiab06:26
didrockshey duflu 06:26
seb128goood morning desktopers06:28
callmepkHi seb128 06:29
didrockssalut seb128 06:29
KGB-2gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Gunnar Hjalmarsson * [update] merge request !14: Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3ryUn06:34
Trevinhohi seb128 maybe you can help to get https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/shell-extensions/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/-/merge_requests/6  in debian? :)06:37
seb128hey callmepk, lut didrocks, Trevinho06:37
seb128Trevinho, up early or really late? and sure let me have a look06:38
Trevinhomh late xD 06:38
* seb128 hugs Trevinho, brave man, getting the work done06:40
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:41
KGB-2gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Gunnar Hjalmarsson * [update] merge request !14: Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3ryUn06:41
seb128lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?06:42
oSoMoNsalut seb128, peu dormi mais ça va, et toi?06:43
seb128je manque un peu de sommeil aussi, mais ça va sinon06:44
dufluMorning seb128, Trevinho and oSoMoN 06:49
seb128hey duflu, how are you?06:49
dufluseb128, doing relatively well considering a short sleep. You?06:49
oSoMoNhey duflu 06:50
dufluOh, same06:50
oSoMoNwe're all in the same boat it seems :)06:50
marcustomlinsongood morning callmepk duflu jibel didrocks seb128 Trevinho oSoMoN07:01
marcustomlinson:)07:01
jibelsalut marcustomlinson 07:02
oSoMoNhey marcustomlinson 07:03
didrockshey marcustomlinson 07:06
seb128hey marcustomlinson, how are you?07:06
marcustomlinsonseb128: tiiiiiired. you? ;)07:07
seb128a bit tired, just lockdown and streched work hours, not comparable to your tired :p07:07
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Still there?07:09
robert_ancellGunnarHj, in a meeting but here.07:10
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Ok. I messed it up when trying to squash, but at least I think I rebased the MR so it's merge'able.07:11
robert_ancellGunnarHj, cool, thanks!07:11
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Will you merge/upload later?07:12
robert_ancellGunnarHj, I asked seb128 to have a look at it, he's planning on doing a g-c-c upload07:12
robert_ancellGunnarHj, did you update the changelog?07:12
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Yes.07:13
seb128robert_ancell, GunnarHj, it's on my list for this morning07:13
GunnarHjseb128: Great! Sorry, but squashing isn't my thing...07:13
seb128GunnarHj, neither mine to be honest :)07:13
Laneymoin08:04
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:06
Laneyhey seb128 08:10
Laneynot bad08:10
didrockshey Laney 08:11
Laneysunny again!08:12
Laneyyou?08:12
Laneyhey didrocks 08:12
seb128alright, a bit tired but it's almost freeze and then one day to w.e :)08:13
dufluHi marcustomlinson and Laney08:17
marcustomlinsonhey Laney08:17
Laneygude daye duflue ande marcustomlinsone08:22
jibelLaney, FYI i'll have another upload of ubiquity after I'm done with bug 185642209:11
ubot5bug 1856422 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "always call mokutil with --timeout -1 when enrolling dkms keys" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185642209:11
Laneyjibel: ok, you should sync up with xnox I think for the kernel stuff09:12
jibelLaney, also I suppoed you noticed but just to be sure I assigned bug 1873146 to you09:12
ubot5bug 1873146 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS without network connection on Dell XPS 13 7390 crashed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187314609:12
jibelsuppose*09:12
Laneyyes, thanks boss!09:13
xnoxLaney:  i think after livecd-rootfs migrates, and we respin we are actually done for the .0 release.09:15
xnoxLaney: there is no stray kernels left, and we only ever installs hwe one.09:16
Laneyoh09:16
xnoxLaney:  installing oem kernel for the qemu-oem doesn't work.09:16
LaneyI thought you were still going to fix the oem case anyway09:16
xnoxi can push it for review, but we don't need it do we? unless there is network and ubuntu-drivers detects oem meta packages over the network?09:17
Laneywell as soon as we get a new meta pkg which wants it (could happen at any time) we'll need it to work then09:17
Laneylike pushing new isos09:18
Laneynot to mention we were going to get QA people to test the oem-qemu-meta case to see if we had any issues to fix09:22
seb128is anyone wanting to have a look to merge gsettings-desktop-schemas ? we are still on 3.35.91 which is probably be ok functionally but still isn't great09:30
xnoxLaney:  hm, true09:30
KGB-1gnome-control-center Sebastien Bacher 155620 * commented merge request !14 * https://deb.li/38xLi10:14
KGB-1gnome-control-center Sebastien Bacher 155628 * commented merge request !15 * https://deb.li/iOJ2x10:25
Laneyjibel: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/382411 should fix that10:32
KGB-1gnome-control-center signed tags 2befd84 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.36.1-1ubuntu5 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.36.1-1ubuntu5 * https://deb.li/ikxr110:33
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master d958ca9 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 13 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/7Vij10:34
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 479356a Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/patches/ series 0027-temporarily-revert-alt-char-key.patch * Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3rxcR10:34
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 039362a Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ (5 files) * https://deb.li/aMhD10:34
KGB-1debian/patches: user-panel: Don't wait for fprintd on initialization and don't limit enroll stages10:34
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 51a0825 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ (8 files in 2 dirs) * Rebase to resolve conflict * https://deb.li/3MDyz10:34
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master e8d24d6 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/IZ2l10:34
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master e160c5a Robert Ancell debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * https://deb.li/3e8GI10:34
KGB-1* debian/patches/0029-applications-Use-new-snapd-glib-API-for-labelling-Sn.patch:10:34
KGB-1* debian/control:10:34
KGB-1  - Use shared names for snap interfaces, fixing some interfaces that don't10:34
KGB-1    have labels.10:34
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Sebastien Bacher * [merge] merge request !14: Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3ryUn10:35
KGB-1gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Sebastien Bacher * [merge] merge request !15: debian/patches: user-panel: Don't wait for fprintd on initialization and don't limit enroll stages * https://deb.li/U2Dg10:35
marcustomlinsonLaney: here are the follow-up update-manager fixes you asked for: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/update-manager/update-manager/+merge/38241010:41
Laneynice one10:44
Laneyi'll look later on10:44
oSoMoNseb128, I'll do gsettings-desktop-schemas if no one has taken it yet11:16
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seb128oSoMoN, thanks!11:38
WimpressGunnarHj: Do you know who I can talk to on the docs team about landing a couple of new pages for 20.04?11:49
Laneyfprintd delta :(11:53
GunnarHjWimpress: Probably me. But that sounds terribly late. The desktop guide is translated also...11:54
GunnarHjWimpress: Is it the desktop guide you meant?11:55
WimpressGunnarHj: We want to land a couple of pages in help.ubuntu.com11:56
WimpressSpecifically help.ubuntu.com/rst11:56
Wimpresshelp.ubuntu.com/bitlocker11:56
WimpressWe have the content, which has just been post on Discourse11:56
Wimpressigordhossegor: Let me introduce you to GunnarHj 11:58
WimpressGunnarHj: May be able to offer assistance landing the RST and Bitlocker pages you've written in help.ubuntu.com11:59
GunnarHjWimpress: help.ubuntu.com consists of two parts: The official desktop and installation docs, and the community help wiki with pages on various topics contributed by the community. Do you possibly have the wiki (help.ubuntu.com/community) in mind?11:59
igordhossegorhi gunnarhj: nice to meet you12:00
igordhossegorthese would be official desktop and installation docs12:00
igordhossegorhelp.ubuntu.com/bitlocker and help.ubuntu.com/rst12:00
igordhossegori have the content (currently topics on ubuntu discourse), but i dont know how to add these pages to the official documentation12:01
igordhossegorGunnarHj ^12:01
GunnarHjigordhossegor: I can probably help there. But let's first decide on a proper location for those pages given the structure of help.ubuntu.com.12:05
igordhossegorunfortunately those two paths are hard-coded into the ubuntu installer12:06
igordhossegori am not sure we can change those12:06
igordhossegorwimpress: the installer paths are done, correct?12:06
seb128Laney, oh come on :/12:07
Laneywhat12:07
seb128<Laney> fprintd delta :(12:07
Laneyok12:07
GunnarHjigordhossegor: You mentioned installation - there is https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/index.html - could such a page (for 20.04) be a proper place to link from?12:08
seb128Laney, https://salsa.debian.org/debian/fprintd/-/merge_requests/1 is going to Debian, I'm just confortable getting https://salsa.debian.org/debian/fprintd/-/commit/120fbfa9 that late in focal which is staged in the Vcs, and we discussed that yesterday on #debian-gnome12:08
WimpressGunnarHj: Those URLs I provided and that igordhossegor are requesting a baked into the installer.12:08
seb128Laney, *not* confortable, sorry12:08
WimpressSo, if those URLs are not somewhere we can land the actual docs, they will require redirects.12:09
seb128Laney, sorry I just found the comment negative/assuming we are adding delta, which is sometime deserved but not in that case12:09
GunnarHjWimpress: Ok... In that case it's not difficult to upload them to those locations - no symlinks needed. But how will people find them?12:11
igordhossegorGunnarHj, they will primarly find them from the installer12:12
igordhossegorduring the installation wizard process12:12
igordhossegorwe can then in future do a different structure and then make sure they are linked/redirected12:12
seb128GunnarHj, https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/rst.png12:13
seb128(sorry Laney for the nickname reference)12:13
igordhossegorthe pages are currently:12:13
igordhossegorrst:12:13
igordhossegorhttps://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-installation-on-computers-with-intel-r-rst-enabled/1534712:13
igordhossegorbitlocker:12:14
igordhossegorhttps://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-installation-on-computers-running-windows-and-bitlocker-turned-on/1533812:14
GunnarHjI see. Sure, pass them to me, and I can commit them to the bzr branch we are using for the purpose. Then a cron job will publish them at noon UTC tomorrow.12:14
seb128GunnarHj, the screenshot is from the installer, which basically redirect you to the documentation12:14
seb128so users should come from here, not from the website/googling12:14
GunnarHjseb128: I think I have got that now. :)12:14
seb128:-)12:15
igordhossegorGunnarHj what format do you need the files?12:21
igordhossegorwhat's the on the discourse good enough - or you need Google Docs or zip file with text and images?12:21
GunnarHjigordhossegor: I'm thinking... Do you really want the pages converted to static html, or would redirects to the current discourse pages be better?12:23
igordhossegorthe redirects can be a short term solution12:24
WimpressGunnarHj: Appreciate your help on this! Thank you :-)12:24
igordhossegorbut it would be better to have them as static ones for consistency purposes12:24
GunnarHjWimpress: np12:24
igordhossegorwe can always link to discourse if people want to comment/ask questions12:24
igordhossegorjust let me know the best format to send you the material12:25
GunnarHjigordhossegor: Ok. I think the easiest way is that I simply save those pages to disk using Firefox and then upload them. A detail... They are HTML pages, but the URL:s don't have .html extensions. Will that be a problem?12:27
GunnarHjigordhossegor: Maybe I can make e.g. help.ubuntu.com/bitlocker a directory and name the page index.html ...12:32
igordhossegorGunnarHj that might not work ... but you can make them as static pages (bitlocker.html and rst.html)12:36
igordhossegorwe can then ask IS for additional redirects12:36
igordhossegorthat will be the easy part12:36
igordhossegorwhen you save the files using firefox, there's a lot of discourse related stuff in there12:38
igordhossegorbest if i just send you the text + images and then you can use them as you best see fit12:38
igordhossegorGunnarHj i've saved my google doc drafts as html files (zipped)12:39
igordhossegorso they have everything - text and images12:39
igordhossegorthat's probably the best source, so let me know how you want to grab them12:40
igordhossegoralternatively, i can give you access to the two google docs and you can download them yourself (as html)12:40
GunnarHjigordhossegor: Yeah, if you don't want the discourse stuff included, that's probably best. Is there a simple URL from where I can get them?12:40
GunnarHjigordhossegor: Btw, I can make redirects if needed, so we don't need to involve IS for that.12:41
igordhossegori will share the urls via dm12:41
GunnarHjOk.12:41
kenvandineclobrano: I think Yaru's CI is publishing automated builds for gtk-common-themes to the edge channel, which are broken13:11
GunnarHjigordhossegor: Ok, I pushed the files. I'm trying with my 'index.html in directories' idea; it should work on the web server. Let's check tomorrow afternoon.13:34
GunnarHjhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/help.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntu.com/revision/5613:34
GunnarHjSo we simply have a Bazaar branch, which means that if/when you want to make changes, you can always submit a merge request.13:34
igordhossegorGunnarHj sounds good13:45
fossfreedomHi all - quick question hopefully.  I'm on yesterdays Ubuntu Budgie Live ISO - I ran the software updater and it wants to remove gnome-software.  Can I ask why?13:57
GunnarHjfossfreedom: Probably because it wants to replace it with the snap version of the same application.13:58
fossfreedomumm .... oh dear.14:00
fossfreedomCan we some how say "dont replace with the snap" ?14:01
kenvandinefossfreedom: you can just install gnome-software again14:06
fossfreedomIf we wanted the snap we would have seeded it.  End users have reported that the snap is broken under UB - totally transparent14:08
Laneythe latest update-manager will probably fix that14:10
fossfreedomah - good.  thx.  I'll double check on todays ISO in a couple of hours14:10
Laneymight not though, if you only recommend it14:11
fossfreedom... checking our seeds ...14:11
Laneyupgrading to a depends will fix that14:11
fossfreedomdamn - its a recommendation14:13
marcustomlinsonLaney and/or Wimpress I wonder if you could weigh in on this? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/atk/-/issues/1815:29
marcustomlinsonI'm in over my head here15:29
KGB-1gnome-control-center Marco Trevisan 155703 * commented merge request !15 * https://deb.li/lqw215:29
marcustomlinsonhoping maybe it rang any bells with you guys. Could the infinite loop be ubiquity's fault? dunno15:31
Laneyubiquity *itself* is a gtknotebook15:32
marcustomlinsonah15:32
Laneyoh man, this looks rough15:35
Laneyxnox: kenvandine: I'm starting iso builds now15:40
kenvandineawesome, thanks15:40
Laneyamd64 only, don't want to have to wait for the arm64 to finish15:40
Laneyit goes15:41
seb128marcustomlinson, you should probably indicate on the upstream report that downgrade to 3.34.1 doesn't show the issue15:44
seb128can help them to understand it as well15:44
seb128marcustomlinson, also you didn't mention the version you are using/report the bug against15:44
marcustomlinsonseb128: good point15:45
hellsworthgood late morning folks16:08
didrockshey hellsworth 16:15
Trevinhoseb thanks for all those debian (and ubuntu for fprintd) sponors :)16:23
Laneysil2100: just checking if you were still planning to review marcustomlinso___n's update-manager branch or want me to?16:26
sil2100Laney: I did!16:28
sil2100And I merged it + released16:28
Laneyah16:28
Laneysorry I missed it16:28
sil2100Only had nitpicks there, so nothing really terrible16:28
Laneythanks for that16:28
Laneyoh yeah 21 minutes ago in the queue!16:29
* Laney looks16:29
sil2100So I just merged and sponsored16:29
Laneyah yay remmina went in after I did the britney fix16:44
Laneywould have been difficult for anyone not me or p_itti to fix that one probably16:44
Laneyso good job nobody else took it up16:44
chudakHello all17:08
chudakHave a problem and need your help17:08
chudakI installed 20.04 beta and then tried adding and switching desktops from gnome to unity 17:08
chudakAnd now see some odd behavior with settings etc.17:08
chudakWhen I check 17:08
chudakDESKTOP_SESSION=unity17:08
chudakBut 17:08
chudakls /usr/bin/*session17:08
chudak/usr/bin/dbus-run-session  /usr/bin/gnome-session  /usr/bin/gnome-session-custom-session17:08
chudakThat looks incorrect to me, but I am hesitant to make any changes and hope someone expert here can help with exact steps how to fix it 17:08
chudakthanks in advance 17:08
sarnoldchudak: what exactly is incorrect?17:13
seb128Laney, wooot, well done on fixing britney!17:24
seb128I failed to look at that one, but as you said that would probably have been waster time, I didn't have days to invest learning my way there17:24
seb128kenvandine, Wimpress, didn't you guys said that you would add gamemode to ubuntu-desktop as a recommends on friday? 18:12
kenvandinei think Wimpress said something about that19:04
KGB-0mutter ubuntu/master 6661980 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series monitor-config-manager-Fallback-to-closed-laptop-lid-conf.patch * d/p: Fallback to closed laptop lid configuration if no other available * https://deb.li/x4q219:34
KGB-0mutter ubuntu/master 2c4a6fe Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/x11-Add-support-for-fractional-scaling-using-Randr.patch * xrandr-scaling: Don't override non-fractionally scaled monitors scaling * https://deb.li/3lLwC19:34
KGB-0mutter Iain Lane 155778 * commented commit 6661980 * https://deb.li/uDD19:49
seb128kenvandine, I don't remember who was supposed to do the vcs change but you said in the hangout on thursday that you would upload ubuntu-desktop in friday while everyone else was off for the long w.e19:50
seb128kenvandine, Wimpress, anyway, it's getting late so if we want that in we should sort if you19:50
seb128out19:50
seb128Laney, how is the ubuntu-desktop set defined for upload rights? like what is needed for a new package to be defined as being in that set?19:52
kenvandineseb128: oh right, Wimpress was going to prepare it and leave it for me to sponsor19:52
kenvandinei actually uploaded ubuntu-meta this week too!19:52
seb128right, I saw the email title on -changes and assumed it was the change19:53
seb128but was suprised it's still not on the ISO19:53
seb128so I went to check and saw it was another change you uploaded, so I wondered if you left that out on purpose19:53
KGB-0mutter signed tags 60325d3 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.36.1-3ubuntu2 * mutter Debian release 3.36.1-3ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/Mwfi20:06
KGB-0mutter ubuntu/master 141ed15 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/i4I3h20:06
KGB-0mutter ubuntu/master ddbb0c4 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/7wmN20:06
Laneyseb128: there's a script that the DMB runs20:16
seb128Laney, should things like yaru-theme be there? should that be automatic?20:17
Laneyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+junk/packageset20:17
LaneyI dunno, ask them to re-run it (or run it yourself and see what it would do)20:17
seb128k20:17
Laneymake that https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+git/packageset20:17
Laneyprobably though20:18
Laneyit's like expand the desktop seed and remove things that are in core20:18
seb128Laney, thanks, I don't have much clue about how sets works since I never had to deal with those :p20:23
seb128trying the script20:23
seb128it's unclear to me if the set is a reflection of the seeds though20:23
seb128(update-germinate taking time)20:24
Laneyit's supposed to be20:24
seb128k20:24
KGB-0gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Marco Trevisan * [open] merge request !16: debian/patches: Disable dock in all monitors when choosing a specific one * https://deb.li/79V21:26
seb128robert_ancell, hey, thanks for the fixes! I got g-c-c uploaded today :)21:47
robert_ancellseb128, thanks for taking care of that :)21:48
seb128robert_ancell, only https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1862553 missing which might be important, I need to test if it impact any livepatch enablement or just some21:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,Confirmed]21:48
seb128if you can poke to that today we might be able to still get that in tomorrow21:48
robert_ancellok, will do21:48
seb128thx21:49
seb128robert_ancell, do you know where the alert sound is used in GNOME?21:51
robert_ancellseb128, no, I don't know if it's used much at all.21:51
seb128changing it in g-c-c doesn't make it change on a g-t command line when doing tab completion for me and I can't find another place21:51
seb128seems a weird setting to have in the UI if it isn't used :/21:52
seb128I was trying to test bug #1871320 but rather minor21:54
ubot5bug 1871320 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Switching alert sound will not take effect unless you switch to Default alert first" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187132021:54
seb128k, on that note calling it a day, it's late enough21:55
seb128see you tomorrow21:55
chudakon 20.04 gnome desktop - how to show top bar on all desktops with multi monitors ?  Thanks !23:12
chudakanyone ^ ?23:54
sarnoldyou may have success in #ubuntu+123:55

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