=== lifeless_ is now known as liffeless === liffeless is now known as lifeless === vitalio_ is now known as vitalio [03:08] Good Morning [03:19] Hi callmepk [03:21] Hi duflu [03:46] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master d1a1f5c Robert Ancell debian/ changelog patches/series patches/0027-window-Stop-using-HdyLeaflet.patch patches/0028-applications-Fix-only-connected-snap-interfaces-show.patch * https://deb.li/3kM6M [03:46] * debian/patches/0027-window-Stop-using-HdyLeaflet.patch: [03:46] - Disable adaptive layouts, theres some bugs and they're not required on [03:46] desktop (LP: #1871195) [03:46] Launchpad bug 1871195 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "The adaptive layouts aren't working properly" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871195 [03:46] * debian/patches/0028-applications-Fix-only-connected-snap-interfaces-show.patch: [03:46] - Fix disconnected snap interfaces not showing (LP: #1870600) [03:46] Launchpad bug 1870600 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "permissions pane only shows currently-connected snap interfaces" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870600 [03:57] gnome-control-center Robert Ancell 155549 * commented merge request !14 * https://deb.li/dcZc [04:18] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 5d361e4 Robert Ancell debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * https://deb.li/3PVIl [04:18] * debian/patches/0029-applications-Use-new-snapd-glib-API-for-labelling-Sn.patch: [04:18] * debian/control: [04:18] - Use shared names for snap interfaces, fixing some interfaces that don't [04:18] have labels. [05:49] gnome-control-center Gunnar Hjalmarsson 155563 * commented merge request !14 * https://deb.li/3ZBHh [06:04] hi $world [06:11] Hello jibel [06:12] good morning duflu [06:24] good morning [06:26] hi didrocks [06:26] biab [06:26] hey duflu [06:28] goood morning desktopers [06:29] Hi seb128 [06:29] salut seb128 [06:34] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Gunnar Hjalmarsson * [update] merge request !14: Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3ryUn [06:37] hi seb128 maybe you can help to get https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/shell-extensions/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/-/merge_requests/6 in debian? :) [06:37] hey callmepk, lut didrocks, Trevinho [06:38] Trevinho, up early or really late? and sure let me have a look [06:38] mh late xD [06:40] * seb128 hugs Trevinho, brave man, getting the work done [06:41] good morning desktoppers [06:41] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Gunnar Hjalmarsson * [update] merge request !14: Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3ryUn [06:42] lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? [06:43] salut seb128, peu dormi mais ça va, et toi? [06:44] je manque un peu de sommeil aussi, mais ça va sinon [06:49] Morning seb128, Trevinho and oSoMoN [06:49] hey duflu, how are you? [06:49] seb128, doing relatively well considering a short sleep. You? [06:50] hey duflu [06:50] Oh, same [06:50] we're all in the same boat it seems :) [07:01] good morning callmepk duflu jibel didrocks seb128 Trevinho oSoMoN [07:01] :) [07:02] salut marcustomlinson [07:03] hey marcustomlinson [07:06] hey marcustomlinson [07:06] hey marcustomlinson, how are you? [07:07] seb128: tiiiiiired. you? ;) [07:07] a bit tired, just lockdown and streched work hours, not comparable to your tired :p [07:09] robert_ancell: Still there? [07:10] GunnarHj, in a meeting but here. [07:11] robert_ancell: Ok. I messed it up when trying to squash, but at least I think I rebased the MR so it's merge'able. [07:11] GunnarHj, cool, thanks! [07:12] robert_ancell: Will you merge/upload later? [07:12] GunnarHj, I asked seb128 to have a look at it, he's planning on doing a g-c-c upload [07:12] GunnarHj, did you update the changelog? [07:13] robert_ancell: Yes. [07:13] robert_ancell, GunnarHj, it's on my list for this morning [07:13] seb128: Great! Sorry, but squashing isn't my thing... [07:13] GunnarHj, neither mine to be honest :) [08:04] moin [08:06] hey Laney, how are you? [08:10] hey seb128 [08:10] not bad [08:11] hey Laney [08:12] sunny again! [08:12] you? [08:12] hey didrocks [08:13] alright, a bit tired but it's almost freeze and then one day to w.e :) [08:17] Hi marcustomlinson and Laney [08:17] hey Laney [08:22] gude daye duflue ande marcustomlinsone [09:11] Laney, FYI i'll have another upload of ubiquity after I'm done with bug 1856422 [09:11] bug 1856422 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "always call mokutil with --timeout -1 when enrolling dkms keys" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1856422 [09:12] jibel: ok, you should sync up with xnox I think for the kernel stuff [09:12] Laney, also I suppoed you noticed but just to be sure I assigned bug 1873146 to you [09:12] bug 1873146 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS without network connection on Dell XPS 13 7390 crashed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1873146 [09:12] suppose* [09:13] yes, thanks boss! [09:15] Laney: i think after livecd-rootfs migrates, and we respin we are actually done for the .0 release. [09:16] Laney: there is no stray kernels left, and we only ever installs hwe one. [09:16] oh [09:16] Laney: installing oem kernel for the qemu-oem doesn't work. [09:16] I thought you were still going to fix the oem case anyway [09:17] i can push it for review, but we don't need it do we? unless there is network and ubuntu-drivers detects oem meta packages over the network? [09:17] well as soon as we get a new meta pkg which wants it (could happen at any time) we'll need it to work then [09:18] like pushing new isos [09:22] not to mention we were going to get QA people to test the oem-qemu-meta case to see if we had any issues to fix [09:30] is anyone wanting to have a look to merge gsettings-desktop-schemas ? we are still on 3.35.91 which is probably be ok functionally but still isn't great [09:30] Laney: hm, true [10:14] gnome-control-center Sebastien Bacher 155620 * commented merge request !14 * https://deb.li/38xLi [10:25] gnome-control-center Sebastien Bacher 155628 * commented merge request !15 * https://deb.li/iOJ2x [10:32] jibel: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/382411 should fix that [10:33] gnome-control-center signed tags 2befd84 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.36.1-1ubuntu5 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.36.1-1ubuntu5 * https://deb.li/ikxr1 [10:34] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master d958ca9 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 13 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/7Vij [10:34] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 479356a Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/patches/ series 0027-temporarily-revert-alt-char-key.patch * Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3rxcR [10:34] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 039362a Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ (5 files) * https://deb.li/aMhD [10:34] debian/patches: user-panel: Don't wait for fprintd on initialization and don't limit enroll stages [10:34] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 51a0825 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ (8 files in 2 dirs) * Rebase to resolve conflict * https://deb.li/3MDyz [10:34] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master e8d24d6 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/IZ2l [10:34] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master e160c5a Robert Ancell debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * https://deb.li/3e8GI [10:34] * debian/patches/0029-applications-Use-new-snapd-glib-API-for-labelling-Sn.patch: [10:34] * debian/control: [10:34] - Use shared names for snap interfaces, fixing some interfaces that don't [10:34] have labels. [10:35] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Sebastien Bacher * [merge] merge request !14: Revert the "Alternate Characters Key" commit temporarily * https://deb.li/3ryUn [10:35] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Sebastien Bacher * [merge] merge request !15: debian/patches: user-panel: Don't wait for fprintd on initialization and don't limit enroll stages * https://deb.li/U2Dg [10:41] Laney: here are the follow-up update-manager fixes you asked for: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/update-manager/update-manager/+merge/382410 [10:44] nice one [10:44] i'll look later on [11:16] seb128, I'll do gsettings-desktop-schemas if no one has taken it yet === alan_g is now known as alan_g_ [11:38] oSoMoN, thanks! [11:49] GunnarHj: Do you know who I can talk to on the docs team about landing a couple of new pages for 20.04? [11:53] fprintd delta :( [11:54] Wimpress: Probably me. But that sounds terribly late. The desktop guide is translated also... [11:55] Wimpress: Is it the desktop guide you meant? [11:56] GunnarHj: We want to land a couple of pages in help.ubuntu.com [11:56] Specifically help.ubuntu.com/rst [11:56] help.ubuntu.com/bitlocker [11:56] We have the content, which has just been post on Discourse [11:58] igordhossegor: Let me introduce you to GunnarHj [11:59] GunnarHj: May be able to offer assistance landing the RST and Bitlocker pages you've written in help.ubuntu.com [11:59] Wimpress: help.ubuntu.com consists of two parts: The official desktop and installation docs, and the community help wiki with pages on various topics contributed by the community. Do you possibly have the wiki (help.ubuntu.com/community) in mind? [12:00] hi gunnarhj: nice to meet you [12:00] these would be official desktop and installation docs [12:00] help.ubuntu.com/bitlocker and help.ubuntu.com/rst [12:01] i have the content (currently topics on ubuntu discourse), but i dont know how to add these pages to the official documentation [12:01] GunnarHj ^ [12:05] igordhossegor: I can probably help there. But let's first decide on a proper location for those pages given the structure of help.ubuntu.com. [12:06] unfortunately those two paths are hard-coded into the ubuntu installer [12:06] i am not sure we can change those [12:06] wimpress: the installer paths are done, correct? [12:07] Laney, oh come on :/ [12:07] what [12:07] fprintd delta :( [12:07] ok [12:08] igordhossegor: You mentioned installation - there is https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/index.html - could such a page (for 20.04) be a proper place to link from? [12:08] Laney, https://salsa.debian.org/debian/fprintd/-/merge_requests/1 is going to Debian, I'm just confortable getting https://salsa.debian.org/debian/fprintd/-/commit/120fbfa9 that late in focal which is staged in the Vcs, and we discussed that yesterday on #debian-gnome [12:08] GunnarHj: Those URLs I provided and that igordhossegor are requesting a baked into the installer. [12:08] Laney, *not* confortable, sorry [12:09] So, if those URLs are not somewhere we can land the actual docs, they will require redirects. [12:09] Laney, sorry I just found the comment negative/assuming we are adding delta, which is sometime deserved but not in that case [12:11] Wimpress: Ok... In that case it's not difficult to upload them to those locations - no symlinks needed. But how will people find them? [12:12] GunnarHj, they will primarly find them from the installer [12:12] during the installation wizard process [12:12] we can then in future do a different structure and then make sure they are linked/redirected [12:13] GunnarHj, https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/rst.png [12:13] (sorry Laney for the nickname reference) [12:13] the pages are currently: [12:13] rst: [12:13] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-installation-on-computers-with-intel-r-rst-enabled/15347 [12:14] bitlocker: [12:14] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-installation-on-computers-running-windows-and-bitlocker-turned-on/15338 [12:14] I see. Sure, pass them to me, and I can commit them to the bzr branch we are using for the purpose. Then a cron job will publish them at noon UTC tomorrow. [12:14] GunnarHj, the screenshot is from the installer, which basically redirect you to the documentation [12:14] so users should come from here, not from the website/googling [12:14] seb128: I think I have got that now. :) [12:15] :-) [12:21] GunnarHj what format do you need the files? [12:21] what's the on the discourse good enough - or you need Google Docs or zip file with text and images? [12:23] igordhossegor: I'm thinking... Do you really want the pages converted to static html, or would redirects to the current discourse pages be better? [12:24] the redirects can be a short term solution [12:24] GunnarHj: Appreciate your help on this! Thank you :-) [12:24] but it would be better to have them as static ones for consistency purposes [12:24] Wimpress: np [12:24] we can always link to discourse if people want to comment/ask questions [12:25] just let me know the best format to send you the material [12:27] igordhossegor: Ok. I think the easiest way is that I simply save those pages to disk using Firefox and then upload them. A detail... They are HTML pages, but the URL:s don't have .html extensions. Will that be a problem? [12:32] igordhossegor: Maybe I can make e.g. help.ubuntu.com/bitlocker a directory and name the page index.html ... [12:36] GunnarHj that might not work ... but you can make them as static pages (bitlocker.html and rst.html) [12:36] we can then ask IS for additional redirects [12:36] that will be the easy part [12:38] when you save the files using firefox, there's a lot of discourse related stuff in there [12:38] best if i just send you the text + images and then you can use them as you best see fit [12:39] GunnarHj i've saved my google doc drafts as html files (zipped) [12:39] so they have everything - text and images [12:40] that's probably the best source, so let me know how you want to grab them [12:40] alternatively, i can give you access to the two google docs and you can download them yourself (as html) [12:40] igordhossegor: Yeah, if you don't want the discourse stuff included, that's probably best. Is there a simple URL from where I can get them? [12:41] igordhossegor: Btw, I can make redirects if needed, so we don't need to involve IS for that. [12:41] i will share the urls via dm [12:41] Ok. [13:11] clobrano: I think Yaru's CI is publishing automated builds for gtk-common-themes to the edge channel, which are broken [13:34] igordhossegor: Ok, I pushed the files. I'm trying with my 'index.html in directories' idea; it should work on the web server. Let's check tomorrow afternoon. [13:34] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/help.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntu.com/revision/56 [13:34] So we simply have a Bazaar branch, which means that if/when you want to make changes, you can always submit a merge request. [13:45] GunnarHj sounds good [13:57] Hi all - quick question hopefully. I'm on yesterdays Ubuntu Budgie Live ISO - I ran the software updater and it wants to remove gnome-software. Can I ask why? [13:58] fossfreedom: Probably because it wants to replace it with the snap version of the same application. [14:00] umm .... oh dear. [14:01] Can we some how say "dont replace with the snap" ? [14:06] fossfreedom: you can just install gnome-software again [14:08] If we wanted the snap we would have seeded it. End users have reported that the snap is broken under UB - totally transparent [14:10] the latest update-manager will probably fix that [14:10] ah - good. thx. I'll double check on todays ISO in a couple of hours [14:11] might not though, if you only recommend it [14:11] ... checking our seeds ... [14:11] upgrading to a depends will fix that [14:13] damn - its a recommendation [15:29] Laney and/or Wimpress I wonder if you could weigh in on this? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/atk/-/issues/18 [15:29] I'm in over my head here [15:29] gnome-control-center Marco Trevisan 155703 * commented merge request !15 * https://deb.li/lqw2 [15:31] hoping maybe it rang any bells with you guys. Could the infinite loop be ubiquity's fault? dunno [15:32] ubiquity *itself* is a gtknotebook [15:32] ah [15:35] oh man, this looks rough [15:40] xnox: kenvandine: I'm starting iso builds now [15:40] awesome, thanks [15:40] amd64 only, don't want to have to wait for the arm64 to finish [15:41] it goes [15:44] marcustomlinson, you should probably indicate on the upstream report that downgrade to 3.34.1 doesn't show the issue [15:44] can help them to understand it as well [15:44] marcustomlinson, also you didn't mention the version you are using/report the bug against [15:45] seb128: good point [16:08] good late morning folks [16:15] hey hellsworth [16:23] seb thanks for all those debian (and ubuntu for fprintd) sponors :) [16:26] sil2100: just checking if you were still planning to review marcustomlinso___n's update-manager branch or want me to? [16:28] Laney: I did! [16:28] And I merged it + released [16:28] ah [16:28] sorry I missed it [16:28] Only had nitpicks there, so nothing really terrible [16:28] thanks for that [16:29] oh yeah 21 minutes ago in the queue! [16:29] * Laney looks [16:29] So I just merged and sponsored [16:44] ah yay remmina went in after I did the britney fix [16:44] would have been difficult for anyone not me or p_itti to fix that one probably [16:44] so good job nobody else took it up [17:08] Hello all [17:08] Have a problem and need your help [17:08] I installed 20.04 beta and then tried adding and switching desktops from gnome to unity [17:08] And now see some odd behavior with settings etc. [17:08] When I check [17:08] DESKTOP_SESSION=unity [17:08] But [17:08] ls /usr/bin/*session [17:08] /usr/bin/dbus-run-session /usr/bin/gnome-session /usr/bin/gnome-session-custom-session [17:08] That looks incorrect to me, but I am hesitant to make any changes and hope someone expert here can help with exact steps how to fix it [17:08] thanks in advance [17:13] chudak: what exactly is incorrect? [17:24] Laney, wooot, well done on fixing britney! [17:24] I failed to look at that one, but as you said that would probably have been waster time, I didn't have days to invest learning my way there [18:12] kenvandine, Wimpress, didn't you guys said that you would add gamemode to ubuntu-desktop as a recommends on friday? [19:04] i think Wimpress said something about that [19:34] mutter ubuntu/master 6661980 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series monitor-config-manager-Fallback-to-closed-laptop-lid-conf.patch * d/p: Fallback to closed laptop lid configuration if no other available * https://deb.li/x4q2 [19:34] mutter ubuntu/master 2c4a6fe Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/x11-Add-support-for-fractional-scaling-using-Randr.patch * xrandr-scaling: Don't override non-fractionally scaled monitors scaling * https://deb.li/3lLwC [19:49] mutter Iain Lane 155778 * commented commit 6661980 * https://deb.li/uDD [19:50] kenvandine, I don't remember who was supposed to do the vcs change but you said in the hangout on thursday that you would upload ubuntu-desktop in friday while everyone else was off for the long w.e [19:50] kenvandine, Wimpress, anyway, it's getting late so if we want that in we should sort if you [19:50] out [19:52] Laney, how is the ubuntu-desktop set defined for upload rights? like what is needed for a new package to be defined as being in that set? [19:52] seb128: oh right, Wimpress was going to prepare it and leave it for me to sponsor [19:52] i actually uploaded ubuntu-meta this week too! [19:53] right, I saw the email title on -changes and assumed it was the change [19:53] but was suprised it's still not on the ISO [19:53] so I went to check and saw it was another change you uploaded, so I wondered if you left that out on purpose [20:06] mutter signed tags 60325d3 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.36.1-3ubuntu2 * mutter Debian release 3.36.1-3ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/Mwfi [20:06] mutter ubuntu/master 141ed15 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/i4I3h [20:06] mutter ubuntu/master ddbb0c4 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/7wmN [20:16] seb128: there's a script that the DMB runs [20:17] Laney, should things like yaru-theme be there? should that be automatic? [20:17] https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+junk/packageset [20:17] I dunno, ask them to re-run it (or run it yourself and see what it would do) [20:17] k [20:17] make that https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+git/packageset [20:18] probably though [20:18] it's like expand the desktop seed and remove things that are in core [20:23] Laney, thanks, I don't have much clue about how sets works since I never had to deal with those :p [20:23] trying the script [20:23] it's unclear to me if the set is a reflection of the seeds though [20:24] (update-germinate taking time) [20:24] it's supposed to be [20:24] k [21:26] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Marco Trevisan * [open] merge request !16: debian/patches: Disable dock in all monitors when choosing a specific one * https://deb.li/79V [21:47] robert_ancell, hey, thanks for the fixes! I got g-c-c uploaded today :) [21:48] seb128, thanks for taking care of that :) [21:48] robert_ancell, only https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1862553 missing which might be important, I need to test if it impact any livepatch enablement or just some [21:48] Ubuntu bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,Confirmed] [21:48] if you can poke to that today we might be able to still get that in tomorrow [21:48] ok, will do [21:49] thx [21:51] robert_ancell, do you know where the alert sound is used in GNOME? [21:51] seb128, no, I don't know if it's used much at all. [21:51] changing it in g-c-c doesn't make it change on a g-t command line when doing tab completion for me and I can't find another place [21:52] seems a weird setting to have in the UI if it isn't used :/ [21:54] I was trying to test bug #1871320 but rather minor [21:54] bug 1871320 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Switching alert sound will not take effect unless you switch to Default alert first" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871320 [21:55] k, on that note calling it a day, it's late enough [21:55] see you tomorrow [23:12] on 20.04 gnome desktop - how to show top bar on all desktops with multi monitors ? Thanks ! [23:54] anyone ^ ? [23:55] you may have success in #ubuntu+1