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ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/01:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> We are now in Apr 16th GMT, time to let the products roll into Focal Final.01:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Focal Final is a more fun name then Focal Fossa for developers in my opinion01:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Ubuntu Cinnamon already got our minimal and full iso's out, I'm just not promoting them until I can take screenshots and pictures for release notes and website01:59
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> In past releases, Final Freeze does not tend to happen until 9PM UTC on the day in question. 1st ISOs may take a day or 2 after that to come, as usually the upload queue needs reviewing and clearing, and proposed migration is allowed to 'settle'.02:14
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Depends who is driving the process though. Might be a little off from that schedule this time.02:16
lotuspsychjegood morning02:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> good morning, good night for me03:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Bug #187311703:20
ubot5bug 1873117 in cinnamon (Ubuntu) "cinnamon-settings.py crashed with KeyError in set_timezone(): 'Etc'" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187311703:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Perfect oppertunity for me to pitch in and put on my maintainer hat03:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Probably again, cherry nitpicking with python03:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> also when installing, a series of python suggestions comes up, I will probably patch it so people don't see that annoying thing, and to get more debian maintainer cookie points03:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> ah here:03:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Debian Bug #95600103:24
ubot5Debian bug 956001 in cinnamon-common "cinnamon-common: Python SyntaxWarning in package setup - bad identity comparisons against literals" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/95600103:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Apparently also, my bug report was the first cinnamon-common bug report (the one with system info)03:25
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> and it looks like i'll file the 3rd one :P03:25
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> and it looks like i'll be filing the 3rd one :P (edited)03:25
guivercanyone installing on boxes with floppy installed?  I've got an install wanting to write MBR (bios) to floppy?  (lubuntu)04:04
valoriefloppy!04:05
valorienot for many years04:06
valoriedon't even have DVD/CD drive anymore04:06
guiverc3.5" 1.44mb thing... yeah I only recently enabled it in BIOS for a askubu lubuntu support question..04:06
valorieexcept as a standalone I bought to burn DVDs at conferences04:06
valorieunsure if it will ever get used again04:06
valorieno linuxfest northwest this year04:07
valorieby next year, will anyone want a DVD burned?04:07
valorieprobably not04:07
guiverc(something is weird here too, the floppy it reports as having ~1920GB4, my hdd only has 160gb)04:10
valorieha04:11
lotuspsychjebug #1867613 in progress06:10
ubot5bug 1867613 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu dock does not allow drag and move icons at bottom of screen" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186761306:10
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otto__Hi, after the latest Update on Kubuntu 20.04 Elisa won't work.I am not sure if I should report this and if so how.07:35
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> oh didn't know you had multiple ISOs for each. nice, though it would be nicer if there was an option to do a minimal install from the full ISO. (re @ItzSwirlz: Ubuntu Cinnamon already got our minimal and full iso's out, I'm just not promoting them until I can take screenshots and pictures for release notes and website)07:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> morning lotuspsychje07:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> valorie: i have a USB DVD/CD drive just in case :D07:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> have a USB floppy drive as well07:38
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @RikMills, valorie: this one for you (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <otto__> Hi, after the latest Update on Kubuntu 20.04 Elisa won't work.I am not sure if I should report this and if so how.)07:39
RikMillsotto__: not working in what way?07:45
otto__It crashes immediately after launch it. It doens matter if I click on a mp3 or launch elisa from the launcher. Thats the first half of the terminal output:07:50
otto__<Unknown File>: QML QQuickLayoutAttached: Binding loop detected for property "preferredHeight"07:51
otto__org.kde.elisa.indexers.manager: Local file system indexer is inactive07:51
otto__org.kde.elisa.indexers.manager: Baloo indexer is unavailable07:51
otto__org.kde.elisa.indexers.manager: Baloo indexer is inactive07:51
otto__The KDE Settings says that "File indexing" is enabled.07:52
RikMillsotto__: It is working ok here for me on a fully updated system. please report a bug with full details if you can08:06
ubuntu-tester57wcan anyone try to extract a tar.xz on ubuntu studio 20.04(beta)? its not working properly for me. i need to refresh the file manager in order to see the extracted folder.08:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> ubuntu-tester57w: someone reported that yesterday, are you the same person?09:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @Eickmeyer seems we may have a second person reporting this (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <Eickmeyer[m]> Sorry, ubuntu-tester97w^)09:03
ubuntu-tester57wno09:03
ubuntu-tester57wforst time today09:03
ubuntu-tester57wfirst*09:04
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> okay then it seems there maybe a problem. can you file a bug about it09:04
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> you can do so in the terminal like so 'ubunutu-bug thunar'09:05
ubuntu-tester57wok i will do it now09:06
ubuntu-tester57wi did tht but the page keeps refreshing, how should i submit the bug?09:10
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> do you have a launchpad.net account?09:10
ubuntu-tester57wyes09:11
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> did you copy and paste the text i gave above, as there was a typo in it09:12
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> should have been 'ubuntu-bug thunar'09:12
ubuntu-tester57whttps://postimg.cc/vg308w5v09:13
ubuntu-tester57wthe spelling is correct09:15
ubuntu-tester57wim doing ti manually from the site09:16
ubuntu-tester57whttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/46921309:18
ubuntu-tester57where it is reported before09:18
ubot5Error: Could not gather data from Ubuntu for bug #469213 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/469213). The error has been logged09:18
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> are you running xubuntu 9.10?09:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> sorry my mistake, that was the reporter who had it like that :D09:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> click the link 'This bug affects 2 people. Does this bug affect you?'09:20
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> and leave a comment with your system info from 'inxi -b'09:20
ubuntu-tester57wok09:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrkiMike> @philipz where do I fill the upgrade form?09:34
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @MrkiMike didnt follow.10:01
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> ubuntu-tester57w: please do mention in your comment that it doesnt appear until you refresh10:04
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrkiMike> @philipz didn't you ask me a day or two ago not to forget to fill in the upgrade report form, after I did trusty->xenial->bionic ?10:05
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @MrkiMike okay that would be at the test tracker10:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> strange there are no upgrade testcases for ubuntu mate 18.0410:14
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <MrkiMike> heh10:16
ubuntu-tester57wis this blu thing on the corner of image viewer normal? https://postimg.cc/PL9wcG9S10:36
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i haven10:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> haven't seen it before10:37
ubuntu-tester57wyeah it looks like its always there even when i just open the app without loading any photo10:39
ubuntu-tester57wnow i opened the app and its not10:39
ubuntu-tester57wbut if i open a photo it appears10:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> now you see it and now you dont10:39
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> well i guess you should likely file a bug for it. maybe do a screencast rather than just a screenshot10:40
ubuntu-tester57wok i will do that. where should i file the bug for the image viewer?10:40
ubuntu-tester57wi can confirm that this is not happening when i open the app itself, just when i open a photo, sorry for that ubuntutestingbot10:44
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> in the terminal type 'ubuntu-bug ristretto'10:44
ubuntu-tester57wubuntutestingbot thank you!10:45
ubuntu-tester57whttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ristretto/+bug/187324410:49
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1873244 in ristretto (Ubuntu) "blue corner" [Undecided,New]10:49
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: i see you filed the bug directly from launchpad, please use ubuntu-bug like philipz just adviced next time10:50
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: that pulls more information into your bug, you can still collect the info with: apport-collect 187324410:51
ubuntu-tester57wit didnt worked lotuspsychje thats why i did it like that.10:52
lotuspsychjeoh ok10:52
ubuntu-tester57wsorry if i make any mistake. im new here. i just want to help as much as i can10:53
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: its not a mistake, we all here to help each other mate10:53
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> glad to have you. please try to give as much info as possible in the bug report10:53
ubuntu-tester57wand i have free time to try stuff and to report anything wrong. im learning also by you10:54
ubuntu-tester57wthank you10:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> so others can try to replidoge your exact system as much as possible to try and reproduce the issue10:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> giving the output of 'inxi -b' is a great first step10:54
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> were you running this in a VM, USB or after installing?10:55
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: i installed ristretto on -desktop but i cant see that blue here10:55
ubuntu-tester57wi installed ubuntu studio on my laptop10:56
ubuntu-tester57wlotuspsychje can you try to open a photo?10:56
lotuspsychjei did10:56
lotuspsychjepictures show nicely here10:57
ubuntu-tester57wyes indeed but this corners i dont know10:57
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: do i need to do anything special?10:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> was it an upgrade of ubuntu studio or a fresh install?10:58
ubuntu-tester57wtry to make the picture smaller10:58
ubuntu-tester57wfresh install10:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> okay let me grab the iso and test10:59
ubuntu-tester57whttps://streamable.com/xsmqv711:00
ubuntu-tester57where is a screen recording11:00
lotuspsychjeweird11:00
lotuspsychjei dont see that11:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> maybe a themeing issue11:00
lotuspsychjetryed both with yaru & yaru dark here11:01
lotuspsychjemy ristretto version is 0.10.0-111:01
ubuntu-tester57w0.10.011:02
ubuntu-tester57wshows here11:02
lotuspsychjesystem up to date ubuntu-tester57w ?11:02
ubuntu-tester57wyes11:02
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: try what philipz says, maybe test on another theme in studio?11:04
ubuntu-tester57wok let me try that now11:04
lotuspsychjeon -desktop i cant make it bug11:04
ubuntu-tester57wok so for ex in adwaita it looks normal11:05
ubuntu-tester57wthe actual theme that ubuntu studio comes is materia11:05
ubuntu-tester57wmaybe its smth related to the theme as you pointed11:05
lotuspsychjeaha11:07
lotuspsychjenice find11:07
lotuspsychjelemme try it in all my themes then11:07
ubuntu-tester57wok :)11:07
lotuspsychjeno all works here11:09
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: try apport-collect 1873244 from terminal11:10
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: and add a new description on your bug you have this on the materia theme11:11
ubuntu-tester57wok11:11
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> just mention you are running the default theme in ubuntu studio and that will suffice11:12
ubuntu-tester57wdone11:12
lotuspsychjenice tnx ubuntu-tester57w you see now all info got pulled into your bug11:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> all that info definitely isnt needed for such a bug. inxi -b would be more than sufficient11:14
ubuntu-tester57whow can i change that?11:15
lotuspsychjei disagree philipz, kernel version, install media, and upgradestatus are pretty relevant for the devs in my opinion11:15
lotuspsychjeristretto version,etc11:15
ubuntu-tester57wlotuspsychje how can i add info for the other bug i have on lauchpad?11:21
ubuntu-tester57wjust chage the number?11:21
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> its fine.11:22
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> lotuspsychje: i guess we'll agree to disagree (kernel version is available in inxi)11:22
ubuntu-tester57wwhen i try apport-collect in the terminal it gives me updating problem report,  no additional information collected11:31
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: you already apport-collect 187324411:32
lotuspsychjethat pulled all the info into your bug, can you see it?11:32
ubuntu-tester57wyes but im trying for another bug that i reported yesterday regarding the snap store11:32
lotuspsychjeah11:32
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: you need to apport-collect BUG ID here11:32
lotuspsychjeaka, the number at bottom of your launchpad url11:33
ubuntu-tester57wso this is the link https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1873033 i want to add system info11:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1873033 in snap-store "snap store missing background" [Undecided,New]11:34
lotuspsychjeapport-collect 187303311:35
ubuntu-tester57wyes thats the one i did and im getting that error11:35
lotuspsychjemaybe its because its a snap11:36
ubuntu-tester57wok11:38
lotuspsychjeubuntu-tester57w: does studio have the ubuntu-software icon aswell?11:45
lotuspsychjeon -desktop i still have both ubuntu-software and snap-store11:46
ubuntu-tester57wno just snap store11:50
lotuspsychjeok11:51
RikMillsbduncan: I believe your kde library issue should be fixed now11:58
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Before I went to bed, there was a thunder bug fix upload in the queue, so don’t file a bug yet. (re @philipz: @Eickmeyer seems we may have a second person reporting this)12:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> *thunar12:00
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Oh too late. It might get invalidated.12:01
lotuspsychjefix commited bug #186761312:07
ubot5bug 1867613 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu dock does not allow drag and move icons at bottom of screen" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186761312:07
lotuspsychje-updating new kernel on fossa12:42
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> so i can confirm the issue that ubuntu-tester57w mentioned about the image viewer. @Eickmeyer maybe you want to have a look at it bug 187324414:07
ubot5bug 1873244 in ristretto (Ubuntu) "blue corner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187324414:07
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Yep, that's the Materia theme. I'll report it upstream. (re @philipz: so i can confirm the issue that ubuntu-tester57w mentioned about the image viewer. @Eickmeyer maybe you want to have a look at it bug 1873244)14:09
ubot5bug 1873244 in ristretto (Ubuntu) "blue corner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187324414:09
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Reported upstream @philipz https://github.com/nana-4/materia-theme/issues/49014:23
shaban238is it normal for the file manager to open always in the left corner even though before closing it i had it in the middle of the screen. it looks like it does nor remember where it was positioned before. it happens also with the terminal. maybe its an xfce thing?14:43
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> @Eickmeyer o14:44
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i've replied for clarity on github14:44
Eickmeyershaban238: Xfce doesn't remember window positioning.14:45
shaban238ok thank you!14:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Seeing your reply, I am questioning if it's the theme then and not ristretto itself. I'm adding ristretto back to the bug report. (re @philipz: i've replied for clarity on github)14:47
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> i thought about that as well.14:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @philipz Would you mind adding those screenshots to the launchpad bug report?14:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> done14:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @philipz I'm going to close the github one then. Clearly Ristretto is the problem here.14:52
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> if you say so. i feel that if all other themes are doing something and its only their theme that is coming out this say, then there is definitely something wrong in their theme that should be fixed.14:53
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> It's just the way they're implementing the "There's more to this image" indidogor. Unfortunately, Ristretto is reporting to GTK that there is more to the image (scrollable) when the entire image is shown.14:55
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Foundationally, the bug is in ristretto. Different themes show that in a different way.14:56
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> Materia is just more obvious.14:56
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I am almost done with wallpapers for ubuntu lumina,15:06
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Yay (re @KaiLoveLinux: I am almost done with wallpapers for ubuntu lumina,)15:08
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @philipz I reported the bug to #xfce-dev, not sure where to go other than there.15:08
shaban238ubuntutestingbot i can see that the same blue border shows even in the settings manager if you scroll up https://streamable.com/g124vq15:19
shaban238so maybe its an xfce related thing15:19
Eickmeyershaban238: To tag someone on Telegram, use @ and then their name. ubuntutestingbot is just a bridge to Telegram, the username in in the < > brackets.15:21
Eickmeyershaban238: That blue border is telling you there's nothing further to scroll. In the case of the settings manager, it's working as intended. It's malfunctioning in ristretto.15:22
shaban238ah ok. thank you15:22
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> All of the offical backgrounds are complete, this will be the default15:28
shaban238what about this: https://streamable.com/xzopfg  is it normal that the second window does not resize after removing it from snap?15:30
Eickmeyershaban238: That's another Xfce thing. I saw an xfwm upload hitting last night, so have patience. Not everything is a bug that's unknown.15:41
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @philipz , shaban238: Seems as though Xfce is aware of the issue with ristretto: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1664815:42
ubot5bugzilla.xfce.org bug 16648 in General "Orange mark at window edges" [Enhancement,Reopened]15:42
shaban238Eickmeyer ok :)15:43
EickmeyerAlso, keep in mind that bluesabre uploaded a TON of Xfce bugfix updates last night in prep for final freeze, so have patience with anything Xfce related. Chances are a lot of bugs are getting fixed with these updates.15:44
shaban238great!15:44
bluesabreFingers crossed. :)15:44
EickmeyerEVERYONE: I recommend holding-off on too much testing until the RC images start dropping. Should start either today or tomorrow, depends on how much the release team can work through the queue.15:44
EickmeyerOtherwise false bug reports could get filed (stuff that's already been fixed, etc.)15:45
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> This is the usual text of the Freeze email that is sent15:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills>15:48
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> filing a bug report i presume - https://bugzilla.xfce.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Ristretto&component=General&resolution=--- (re @Eickmeyer: @philipz I reported the bug to #xfce-dev, not sure where to go other than there.)15:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> As linked later, it's a known bug. (re @philipz: filing a bug report i presume - https://bugzilla.xfce.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Ristretto&component=General&resolution=---)15:49
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1664815:50
ubot5bugzilla.xfce.org bug 16648 in General "Orange mark at window edges" [Enhancement,Reopened]15:50
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <philipz> ok. hadnt gottne that far :D15:50
lotuspsychjeroger Eickmeyer16:11
EickmeyerFor those that couldn't see the image that RikMills dropped in Telegram of the usual Final Freeze email text: https://t.me/UbuntuTesters/574716:15
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Shouldn't be a prob for UC (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <Eickmeyer> For those that couldn't see the image that RikMills dropped in Telegram of the usual Final Freeze email text: https://t.me/UbuntuTesters/5747)16:16
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <ItzSwirlz> our issues a minor and easy to fix16:16
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <Eickmeyer> @ItzSwirlz I posted that for the IRC room, they don't get images on their end automatically.16:16
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> Not guaranteed the release team will follow the same this year, but it give an idea of what 'usually' happens when the FinalFreeze portcullis drops16:19
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> They'll probably break convention this time just to annoy me. 🤣16:24
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2020-April/001277.html21:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <RikMills>21:13
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I doubt I will get Ubuntu Lumina to release on time , but I will be as close as possible21:37
ubuntutestingbot[telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> because I am moving this weekend21:37

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