[00:07] <cluelessperson_> akem, sarnold    So I uninstalled everything that should automatically set cpufreq.  Ubuntu has crashed on me several times now, not sure if that's causal.
[00:07] <cluelessperson_> akem, sarnold Anyway,  at 3.8 Ghz, dropdowns and UI stuff is basically instant.
[00:08] <cluelessperson_> So I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
[00:25] <codedmart_> cluelessperson_: Do you know how I can do that?
[00:34] <Intelo> How to monitor memory and cpu usage by each app/daemon?
[00:36] <cluelessperson_> codedmart_, I just got back, do what?
[00:37] <cluelessperson_> codedmart_, oh, bridge lxc to your wifi connection?
[00:37]  * cluelessperson_ forgets how to do that atm and has to think
[00:37] <cluelessperson_> codedmart_, basically you'll need to setup a virtual interface and bridge it to your wifi interface.
[00:38] <cluelessperson_> codedmart_, https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2018/10/22/introduction-to-linux-interfaces-for-virtual-networking/
[00:38] <matsaman> yeah there should be a simple config for that for lxc
[00:38] <cluelessperson_> that looks like it will have the information you need.
[00:38] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, so I uninstalled a bunch of stuff, went back to non-wayland, and now lscpu shows 3.8ghz
[00:43] <tds> codedmart_ / cluelessperson_: bridging to a wireless adapter is quite non-trivial, and depends on the wireless adapter and the AP involved
[00:43] <tds> if you can just route a subnet to the host and sit your containers behind that, it often simplifies things
[00:47] <cluelessperson_> does anyone know what `/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0` are?
[00:53] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: looks like one directory per processor on the system
[00:54] <cluelessperson_> sarnold,  there's already /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*
[00:54]  * cluelessperson_ doesn't like guessing
[00:56] <deltab> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-cpufreq-2/index.html
[01:02] <TheTalkingYogurt> hello
[01:03] <TheTalkingYogurt> I'm having a very weird problem... up until two days ago, my small home server (18.04) was working flawlessly but today I find that any outgoing traffic sees a huuuuuge packet loss
[01:04] <TheTalkingYogurt> it's a small OptiPlex 9020 USFF with an I217-LM NIC
[01:05] <TheTalkingYogurt> I believe it uses the e1000e driver
[01:06] <TheTalkingYogurt> I'm also getting weird *BAD*gran_size lines in kernel messages, and I seriously don't recall having had them before
[01:06] <TheTalkingYogurt> there have been zero hardware or software changes, not even an update
[01:07] <TheTalkingYogurt> I'm afraid it might be a hardware problem but netbsd doesn't seem to have a problem with it
[01:07] <TheTalkingYogurt> any ideas ?
[01:08] <sarnold> I'm accustomed to seeing those *BAD* messages in dmesg on bugreports from machines that seem pretty unhappy
[01:08] <sarnold> but I've never figured out if those are themselves causes of problems or just indicators of firmware problems that the system is otherwise able to ignore or patch up
[01:09] <TheTalkingYogurt> yep, I got to the same non-conclusion
[01:10] <sarnold> hehehe
[01:10] <sarnold> thanks for that :) I'll have to try to remember that one, that's good
[01:10] <TheTalkingYogurt> it's so weird, SSHing into the server starts reasonably well but running anything output-heavy (like dmesg) not only slows to a crawl but actually drops the connection
[01:10] <TheTalkingYogurt> :)
[01:10] <TheTalkingYogurt> glad to be of service ;)
[01:11] <sarnold> I hate this suggestion, but .. I wonder if you manually cap the MTU on the interface to something lower?
[01:11] <tds> TheTalkingYogurt: is that over the LAN, or to somewhere external?
[01:11] <kk4ewt> TheTalkingYogurt; where is the server over internet or in the local network
[01:11] <tds> what sarnold said :)
[01:11] <lestac> hello people!
[01:12] <sarnold> I'm given some slight comfort that both tds and kk4ewt seemed to be heading in the same direction, heh
[01:12] <TheTalkingYogurt> it's open but behind a NAT, however the problem is the same whether on the LAN or outside of it
[01:12] <kk4ewt> sarnold;  need the full picture
[01:12] <tds> sarnold: too many people bitten by it in the past :)
[01:14] <Jordan_U> TheTalkingYogurt: Can you reproduce the problem with an Ubuntu 18.04 LiveUSB?
[01:14] <TheTalkingYogurt> I'd lower the MTU if it weren't for the fact that before yesterday everything worked fine with the defaults, 1GB connection basically saturated without any issue
[01:14] <TheTalkingYogurt> Jordan_U, I tried before coming here, just installed openssh-server on the live 18.04.4, same exact story
[01:15] <kk4ewt> TheTalkingYogurt; unplug a replug the ethernet cable on both ends and test
[01:15] <kk4ewt> unplug and replug
[01:15] <TheTalkingYogurt> kk4ewt, already did, tried another cable and another switch
[01:15] <kk4ewt> still the same ?
[01:15] <TheTalkingYogurt> sadly yes
[01:16] <TheTalkingYogurt> it's like a voodoo curse
[01:16] <TheTalkingYogurt> I thought those only happened to Windows in the nineties
[01:17] <kk4ewt> and the server is in the same network correct
[01:18] <TheTalkingYogurt> regarding the *BAD* messages, I memtested the RAM and it seems ok; I found some reference to mtrr kernel parameters but I'm not sure I understand it all
[01:18] <kk4ewt> static or dhcp?
[01:19] <TheTalkingYogurt> yep, the server is currently next to me, on the same switch as the machine I'm working on, DHCP but with a static address
[01:19] <Jordan_U> TheTalkingYogurt: So the DHCP server is configured to always give out the same IP to this host?
[01:19] <kk4ewt> double check the ip submask and gateway on the effected machines
[01:19] <TheTalkingYogurt> yes
[01:20] <TheTalkingYogurt> I'll do that
[01:21] <TheTalkingYogurt> default gateway and subnet mask are fine
[01:21] <Jordan_U> TheTalkingYogurt: Check for ip address collisions too.
[01:23] <kk4ewt> ethernet port on motherboard or external card
[01:24] <TheTalkingYogurt> no ip collisions, ethernet port on motherboard
[01:24] <kk4ewt> laptop or desktop
[01:26] <TheTalkingYogurt> it's small desktop (OptiPlex 9020 USFF), looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/1cXRyD4.jpg
[01:28] <tds> how do counters in `ip -s link` look?
[01:30] <TheTalkingYogurt> TX: 495734, 1553 packets, zero errors, collisions, etc.
[01:31] <rainmanjam> Hey everyone. I'm having an issue updating my Ubuntu 18.04 instance. When I do "sudo apt autoremove" I get this https://imgur.com/a/7wDqJ0h . Also I'm running this instance on Microsoft Azure.
[01:31] <sarnold> oh wow, I've got a lot of dropped packets 799299
[01:32] <TheTalkingYogurt> probably covid19 underpaying the deliveries
[01:32]  * TheTalkingYogurt ducks
[01:33] <tds> i'd be tempted to directly connect the two machines and test, just to rule out the switch and the rest of the network
[01:33] <Jordan_U> TheTalkingYogurt: It might be interesting to compare a tcpdump from the problem computer and another machine. See which packets one sends vs what the other receives.
[01:34] <Jordan_U> rainmanjam: How long has it been like that without the output changing?
[01:34] <TheTalkingYogurt> Jordan_U, WHY didn't I think of that...
[01:34] <TheTalkingYogurt> thanks :)
[01:36] <Jordan_U> rainmanjam: I assume that you would have gotten the same "setting up grub-efi-amd64" if you had run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", the package configuration was probably interrupted the last time you had a package update.
[01:36] <rainmanjam> @Jordan_U 1.5 hours
[01:37] <rainmanjam> @Jordan_U correct
[01:38] <Jordan_U> rainmanjam: Please pastebin the output of "ps aux | grep grub".
[01:39] <rainmanjam> @Jordan_U https://pastebin.com/whR8Mw3W
[01:41] <TheTalkingYogurt> OH FOR FSM SAKE
[01:41] <TheTalkingYogurt> tds, good call
[01:42] <TheTalkingYogurt> I just looked up the logs on my UPS
[01:42] <Jordan_U> rainmanjam: This is probably what's hanging: /usr/sbin/grub-probe --device /dev/sda1 --target=fs_uuid
[01:42] <TheTalkingYogurt> apparently both my switches are dead
[01:42]  * TheTalkingYogurt looks like a fool
[01:42] <TheTalkingYogurt> sorry folks
[01:43] <TheTalkingYogurt> thanks for your help
[01:43] <Jordan_U> TheTalkingYogurt: I'm confused, what do you mean by dead?
[01:43] <sarnold> TheTalkingYogurt: sorry about the swtiches :(
[01:43] <TheTalkingYogurt> well it seems we had a bit of an oversurge yesterday
[01:44] <Jordan_U> rainmanjam: I can possibly help you make a fake grub-probe that gives the correct output, if it ends up coming to that. Anything in dmesg? My guess is that it's hanging in a syscall somewhere, not in userspace.
[01:45] <TheTalkingYogurt> and these two switches (small 5-port ones) were plugged directly on a wall socket
[01:45] <TheTalkingYogurt> I have no idea what exactly happened but I just dug up an older 100bt one and it works flawlessly
[01:45] <Jordan_U> TheTalkingYogurt: I wonder what magic netbsd was performing. Maybe had the link configured for 100mbps rather than gigabit?
[01:46] <TheTalkingYogurt> Jordan_U, possibly, I admit that I hadn't noticed (or even checked)
[01:47] <TheTalkingYogurt> sarnold, it's okay, I'd rather have two dead home switches than a dead server
[01:47] <sarnold> TheTalkingYogurt: so true
[01:48] <Jordan_U> TheTalkingYogurt: Still worth testing direct between two computers, make sure that you can actually get a reliable link when negotiating to gigabit.
[01:48] <TheTalkingYogurt> Jordan_U, exactly what I'm trying now, and it's perfectly stable
[01:48] <DarkTrick> Hm... I feel like there is a problem with Linux 5.3.0-46-generic. My systems hangs for about 3~5 seconds when I switch apps. This did not happen in 5.3.0-40-generic. Unfortunately I already `autoremoved` 40, so I can't go back temporarily.
[01:50] <TheTalkingYogurt> thanks a lot for all your ideas, people :)
[01:50] <sarnold> DarkTrick: if they're already gone from your mirror, you can grab them from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory
[01:50] <TheTalkingYogurt> (now I just have to see if I can salvage those switches...)
[01:51] <codedmart_> tds: What do you mean route a subnet to the host. I am just running lxc on my laptop to test out some development env stuff.
[01:52] <tds> add a static route on your router for a subnet via your laptop, then put your containers in that subnet, behind your laptop as a router
[01:52] <DarkTrick> sarnold, how would I safely install it? like usual SW?
[01:53] <tds> or the hacky solution is to just NAT the containers behind your laptop's address on the wireless interface - I think lxc should do that out of the box, there will be an "lxcbr0" bridge for it?
[01:54] <codedmart_> tds: Yeah internet was working out of the box, but I wanted to expose some ports and that led me to macvlan which didn't work with wireless which led me down this road.
[01:55] <sarnold> DarkTrick: I don't think there's a great way to install them if they're removed from your mirror -- at least the links on launchpad are https, so if you download them manually, you'll have some assurance that they came from launchpad; but afaik there's no easy way to get launchpad's historical packages via apt :(
[01:55] <codedmart_> So really if I could expose ports from the container to the host with the standard bridge lxdbr0 that would be ideal.
[01:55] <tds> if you already have NATed networking working, you could add some NAT rules to just expose specific ports via your laptop's ip
[01:56] <DarkTrick> sarnold, so I guess I should endure the situation :/ Thank you
[01:56] <sarnold> DarkTrick: at least report bugs..
[01:56] <DarkTrick> sarnold, is there a good place to report the problem?
[01:56] <rainmanjam> @Jordan_U Sorry for the delay. had to let my dog out.
[01:56] <codedmart_> tds: Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am not sure how or what you mean.
[01:56] <DarkTrick> sarnold, I can't really like ... make a technical bug report
[01:56] <sarnold> DarkTrick: ubuntu-bug linux   will get you started -- you'll need a launchpad account to carry through with it
[01:57] <tds> codedmart_: ahh, if you're using lxc rather than lxd, looks like it has some built in stuff to proxy connections via the host's ip
[01:57] <tds> https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/forward-port-80-and-443-from-wan-to-container/2042/2
[01:57] <DarkTrick> sarnold, So I'd rather search for a "tell it to people in charge and when more people complain, they will look into it"-stategy...(?)
[01:57] <tds> ugh, I meant "lxd rather than lxc", you get the idea
[01:58] <codedmart_> tds: Oh great I missed that.
[01:58] <codedmart_> Thanks!
[01:58] <rainmanjam> I'm going to try one more thing. brb
[02:03] <Captain_Proton> Home do I change the workgroup name without installing samba
[02:04] <Captain_Proton> I assuming it some where in nautilus settings
[02:06] <Captain_Proton> how*
[02:09] <rainmanjam> @Jordan_U New error..:-( https://pastebin.com/LM9U8FC7
[02:15] <rainmanjam> When I do sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend
[02:16] <rainmanjam> When I do "sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend" the computer goes unresponsive and I have to hard reboot
[02:16] <sarnold> o_O
[02:18] <rainmanjam> @sarnold Yea.. I looked the same way.
[02:19] <sarnold> that's the kind of thing I might chalk up to hardware failure, eg that block just can't be read off disk, but the disk is going to keep trying
[02:20] <sarnold> and inspecting processes hung in D state it's possible to get *new* processes stuck in D state
[02:20] <sarnold> but I haven't actually seen that behaviour in fifteen years or so
[02:20] <Captain_Proton> how do I change the workgroup name without installing samba I assuming it some where in nautilus settings
[02:20] <parak0vsky> I am on the newest version of Ubuntu and I can't install the Mixxx software as explained in their download section because their repository reports I am already having newest version, which I am not. How to fix it, thank you. https://www.mixxx.org/download/
[02:20] <parak0vsky> I self updated my Ubuntu 18 using that guide https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-18-04-to-ubuntu-19-10-from-command-line
[02:21] <cluelessperson_> Captain_Proton, not sure about nautilus
[02:22] <sarnold> parak0vsky: you should have stayed on bionic -- it looks like their software doesn't build on eoan https://launchpad.net/~mixxx/+archive/ubuntu/mixxx/+packages
[02:23] <sarnold> parak0vsky: they may not know that their software isn't available for the two most recent releases, it's probably worth reporting to them
[02:23] <TheTalkingYogurt> Captain_Proton, are you absolutely precluded from installing samba?
[02:23] <TheTalkingYogurt> it's remarkably stable and -- to my experience -- very smooth
[02:23] <parak0vsky> sarnold: any way I can fix that on my end right now?
[02:24] <Captain_Proton> I can install samba but to just over ride the workgroup name seems overkill
[02:25] <sarnold> Captain_Proton: btw *why* do you want to change the workgroup name?
[02:25] <sarnold> parak0vsky: nothing great. you could try installing bionic in LXD or a VM and run mixxx from within the lxd instance or the VM instance
[02:25] <TheTalkingYogurt> I'm not sure that you _can_ change it without declaring one (ie. it just uses the default wg name)
[02:26] <Captain_Proton> the default is workgroup my network is called HOME since there is a mismatch it does not find anything in HOME unless I use the ip address
[02:29] <Captain_Proton> sarnold, I track it down!! it is a setting in dconf > org/gnome/system/smb/workgroup
[02:29] <sarnold> aha! cool :)
[02:34] <TheTalkingYogurt> that's a weird design decision
[02:35] <TheTalkingYogurt> to be able to browse without installing samba but to not have a GUI to set a workgroup
[03:00] <n00b> hello
[03:04] <n00b> i am about to something shenanigans and I have read up as much as I can but I am very fluent with nix as an end user and managing the post server aspect... but I am done with windows and I am tired of self punsihment in the brutal chimera that is the rotten fruit... I did indeed think different and well... low hanging fruit is low rotten quickly
[03:04] <n00b> I had a few questions in any vent in working this through vultur
[03:04] <n00b> on an instance there
[03:05] <n00b> I dream of my own recursive dns,,,, ahhhh over over https,my own vpn
[03:06] <n00b> and just insultating as much I can aginst comcastic
[03:06] <n00b> so I was wondering if I could ask a few questions
[03:06] <n00b> just as the vps concept is alien to me
[03:07] <Woet> n00b: https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/
[03:07] <Thanos> ask clear concise questions. If people know they might answer. do not ask to ask. be aware I myself do not know.
[03:08] <n00b> my apologies
[03:08] <n00b> my ettiquttee is way out of date.
[03:09] <deltab> n00b: what do you want to ask?
[03:09] <Woet> n00b: #6 – Do not /msg people without asking
[03:10] <cluelessperson_> deltab, thanks for that link, but it doesn't seem clear to me what the heck these policies are.
[03:13] <n00b> hi del, in looking at the server hardware from bare metal to Legion, I am unsure what is appropriate performance wise for a vpn, recursive bind or some variant and anything ele I can do. I think to start, i want to just setup a personal openvpn vps server.
[03:14] <n00b> and build into doh, and any other things to encapsulate data
[03:15] <n00b> what kind of spec should I be looking at in a vps deployment
[03:15] <Woet> a 128 MB RAM NAT VPS is plenty for a VPN.
[03:15] <n00b> i guess small medium large extra large
[03:15] <n00b> cool
[03:16] <n00b> Final question
[03:16] <n00b> is wireguard still a wildcard
[03:16] <n00b> from there I shall RTFM :(
[03:17] <n00b> :)
[03:17] <n00b> does any flavor of the ubuntu fit best
[03:18] <n00b> or is equal footing
[03:19] <deltab> cluelessperson_: in general, they're about saving power by slowing down the processor -- always, never, when needed, etc. See https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-cpufreq-1/
[03:22] <n00b> thanks for everythint
[03:23] <n00b> be well and stay safe
[03:43] <cluelessperson_> deltab, okay, but what are these specific policy objects?
[03:43] <cluelessperson_> deltab, `/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0`
[03:47] <deltab> isn't that described in Part 2?
[06:10] <r15> Hi #ubuntu, I have 3 IP addresses in same network and there is only 1 network interface, is there a way to keep 1st ip active for some time and then 2nd ip, and after sometime 3rd IP
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> r15: maybe more a question for ##networking ?
[06:27] <r15> lotuspsychje: yes it's networking ne
[06:29] <r15> some idea/clue?
[06:31] <r15> i have only one interface, with 3 ip addresses, want to randomize ip address
[06:31] <r15> at a time only 1 should be active
[06:38] <arunkumar413> Hi All
[06:39] <shiroininja> sup dooder
[06:39] <arunkumar413> I'm trying to install Qt framework but the download speed very low
[06:39] <arunkumar413> I switch to the open dns but still the max speed is 0.2 MB
[06:39] <arunkumar413> I have a 40Mbps connections
[06:40] <shiroininja> it could be their connection, or the repo you're using?
[06:41] <shiroininja> how about downloading other stuff?
[06:41] <shiroininja> or is it just that?
[07:40] <StevenJayCohen> Here's a strange issue. Fresh install 19.10 (and under 20.04) haven't installed the wifi driver, wifi working, and I see the Intel Wireless Driver being offered to me. Should I install the driver if the wifi is already working? Will the proprietary driver perform differently/better?
[08:15] <sumagna> hello
[08:15] <sumagna> i need some help
[08:15] <sumagna> i accidentally deleted all the content of my .bashrc file
[08:15] <sumagna> it now only contains the PATH
[08:17] <sumagna> can i get the content back somehow
[08:17] <sumagna> i had some variables exported from there
[08:18] <sumagna> i had a backup file of bashrc so i could get it back to default state
[08:18] <geirha> if you don't have a backup of the file with the variables you're missing, there's very little chance of getting it back
[08:19] <sumagna> i accidentally overwrite it with echo export PATH=$PATH:/path
[08:20] <sumagna> echo export PATH=$PATH:"random path" > ~/.bashrc
[08:20] <sumagna> i used this command and it become colourless and thats when i realized that something's wrong
[08:21] <sumagna> isnt there any way i can get it back?
[08:21] <geirha> No, that's what backups are for
[08:21] <geirha> you can get the default .bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc, but all your customizations are gone forever
[08:22] <sumagna> bad luck for me then
[08:22] <sumagna> cuz i deleted my backup folder accidentally while cleaning my drive two days ago
[08:22] <luna_> ouch
[08:22] <sumagna> and i forgot to backup after that
[08:23] <oerheks> sumagna, if you are on 18.04, my path is : echo $PATH >>> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
[08:23] <sumagna> i overwrote it while appending the path to the bashrc file
[08:24] <oerheks> my bashrc  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nWgxfVh9v8/
[08:24] <oerheks> :-)
[08:27] <sumagna> thanks for the tb alias
[08:27] <sumagna> i forgot that i had it
[08:28] <sumagna> i also remember having pythonpath for modules although i didnt need the module i intended making the variable for
[08:28] <geirha> Better to adjust PATH in .profile though, that way it will be available to the x session as well, not just bash
[08:29] <sumagna> xsession?
[08:31] <geirha> the graphical session you log into. gnome if you're using the default
[08:32] <sumagna> oh ok
[08:32] <sumagna> can you check if there's anything wrong with my bashrc file before sourcing it
[08:32] <sumagna> https://termbin.com/07mzb
[08:33] <Kon> I'm trying to install through Ubiquity. I have selected the correct EFI partition. But Ubiquity does not want to let me set a mount point for it
[08:34] <Kon> Will it automatically mount that partition at /boot/efi?
[08:38] <benjam2000> hi
[08:39] <benjam2000> With ubuntu 20.04 the preseed automation style (debian installer) for automated installs wont be supported anymore?
[08:39] <luna_> benjam2000: #ubuntu+1
[08:40] <oerheks> benjam2000, i have no info that it disappeared
[08:40] <oerheks> luna_ +1
[08:49] <benjam2000> oerheks, maybe it was replaced by an cloud-init style installer automation. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/please-review-design-for-automated-server-installs/11923
[09:14] <benjam2000> oerheks, With 20.04 LTS, we will be completing the transition to the live server installer and discontinuing the classic server installer based on debian-installer (d-i)... https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/server-installer-plans-for-20-04-lts/13631
[09:15] <Guest_45> hi
[09:16] <luna_> hi
[09:16] <Guest_45> Can someone please help me with a problem I am facing writing a rootkit?
[09:17] <oerheks> rootkits writing is beyound the scope of the ubuntu support channel
[09:17] <Guest_45> which channel should I join then?
[09:17] <Guest_45> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:18] <luna_> ##security maybe
[09:19] <oerheks> benjam2000, thanks, i am reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/AutomatedServerInstalls
[09:33] <EriC^^> morning all
[10:01] <sentiment> hello. I have created a key file for polkit version 0.105 that contains correct syntax because I have verified it by researching othe similar questions. Yet, it doesn't work
[10:02] <sentiment> when I run pkaction on the polkit action it still shows the old policy
[10:04] <sentiment> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5WSDRSGhNV/
[10:25] <dongyi> Hi!I am Chinese!
[11:01] <gugaua> I have questions regarding archive (gz) in linux, does someone know which channel is the best?
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> gugaua: do you have ubuntu installed right now?
[11:02] <gugaua> on my server no, it is debian
[11:03] <gugaua> lotuspsychje, but my question is not regarding an OSS
[11:03] <gugaua> lotuspsychje, but my question is not regarding an OS
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> gugaua: ##linux or #debian perhaps?
[11:03] <gugaua> lotuspsychje, ok thanks
[11:07] <Antoine-> Hello, what does ubuntu uses by default to display international symbols? Does it come with noto-fonts?
[11:11] <ratrace> Installed Ubuntu Bionic in a qemu-kvm VM. how do I activate the grub menu? It doesn't boot, stops in the middle of systemd output, and I want to rebot into muliti-user.target but I can't reach the grub menu..............
[11:41] <ratrace> nvm, hacked grub.cfg from another VM ....
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:50] <monkwitdafunk> hello BluesKaj
[11:51] <monkwitdafunk> im interested in using ubuntu not as a desktop anymore
[11:51] <BluesKaj> hi monkwitdafunk
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> monkwitdafunk: install ubuntu server?
[11:51] <monkwitdafunk> when there was the amazon addware, i used ubuntu server but i want to use ubuntu without a desktop enviroment
[11:52] <monkwitdafunk> im pretty sure ubuntu is awsome as a mainframe
[11:52] <monkwitdafunk> i just have to plan the hardware
[11:52] <monkwitdafunk> any ideas where i can get ubuntu certfied hardware? i havent used ubuntu for a long time
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | monkwitdafunk
[11:53] <monkwitdafunk> thaNK you lotuspsychje
[11:54] <monkwitdafunk> the reason why i dont want to use ubuntu desktop is because im scared the root can be compromised if the desktop enviroment gets hacked
[11:55] <Ben64> what
[11:56] <monkwitdafunk> lets say a box appears to type in the root passwd
[11:56] <monkwitdafunk> unless i download the repository and never use the root after
[11:56] <Ben64> ???
[11:56] <monkwitdafunk> suders.list
[11:57] <monkwitdafunk> sorry. i havent used shell scripting for a long time
[11:57] <monkwitdafunk> i forget a lot
[11:57] <Ben64> you're not making much sense
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> monkwitdafunk: please focus with real ubuntu questions in this channel
[11:58] <monkwitdafunk> well. where can i torrent the entire repository?
[11:58] <monkwitdafunk> id rather buy it however
[11:58] <Ben64> what?
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:59] <monkwitdafunk> no. i mean program a live system run from ram
[11:59] <monkwitdafunk> casper
[11:59] <monkwitdafunk> thats if i dont use ubuntu server as a mainframe
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> monkwitdafunk: please only ubuntu questions here, then wait patiently until volunteers reply
[12:29] <C0nundrum> i know nfs requires the same uid/gid to exists on both host/client but must east uid have the same subordinategids on both machines ?
[12:46] <wr> good virtual keyboard to use on ubuntu?
[12:51] <JimBuntu> wr: You'll probably do better asking for opinions somewhere like ##linux
[12:55] <Kon> Hi, I've been trying to talk a new user through their Bionic install, and they keep failing to install GRUB because Ubiquity will not let them set the mount point of the EFI partition. What is going on there? Here's their picture of the partition table https://i.imgur.com/KdGTvAy.jpg
[12:57] <akem> wr "onboard".
[12:57] <Kon> When they click on Change for /dev/sda1, the input field for Mount Point is grayed out when "EFI system partition" is selected
[12:59] <jeremy31> Kon any issue with choosing /dev/sda
[13:00] <Kon> jeremy31: They accidentally chose /dev/sda the first time and could not boot to Ubuntu. /dev/sda would be the correct location for legacy GRUB,not grub-efi
[13:02] <Kon> grub-efi must be installed onto the EFI system partition and mounted at /boot/efi
[13:02] <Kon> But as I said, Ubiquity will not allow them to change the mount point once "EFI system partition" is chosen as the partition type!
[13:03] <jeremy31> It looks like windows might be installed, was the EFI partition added?
[13:03] <Kon> The EFI system partition already existed before the Ubuntu installation
[13:05] <jeremy31> Kon is it a newer HP?
[13:06] <Kon> Dell
[13:08] <jeremy31> Kon might need to search on the model number and see if it has issues.  I had to change the OS boot loader setting in my HP to get it working
[13:09] <Kon> jeremy31: What do you mean "the OS boot loader setting?"
[13:09] <Kon> Are you talking about Secure Boot?
[13:10] <Aleric> I'm using ubuntu 18.04. I'm using systemd. How should I start a service that only comes with a /etc/init.d/somename file?
[13:15] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: Ideally you see if the program already has a package in the Ubuntu software repository. Those will already been converted and designed to work with Ubuntu. If the package doesn't exist, you can create your own start up file for systemd
[13:15] <iconoclasthero> is there an eta for 20.04 RC1?
[13:16] <pragmaticenigma> iconoclasthero: Questions about Ubuntu 20.04 need to be asked in the #ubuntu+1 channel please
[13:16] <Aleric> pragmaticenigma: this is a ubuntu package (deluged)
[13:16] <Aleric> It is not converted and designed to work with ubuntu?
[13:16] <jackhum> i am 18.04 and i am facing this problem of my shell theme reverting to default frequently, it happens sometimes after i login logout , or specifically at some time. Any help to troubleshoot this ?
[13:17] <Aleric> https://gyazo.com/83a21222e07c9e9d8724c1ed0c8b7a7a
[13:24] <akem> "service deluged start" maybe?
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> akem: that would work if it was a systemd service, which it isn't
[13:25] <jeremy31> Kon it is a setting in my HP BIOS, I had to change it from windows boot loader to ubuntu and save or it would just boot windows
[13:26] <akem> pragmaticenigma, Ok.
[13:26] <Kon> Ahh, you had both installed side by side
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: This article appears to be comprehensive in getting deluge setup to work with systemd: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software/Install-Deluge-Headless.html
[13:30] <Aleric> pragmaticenigma: I found that (on simular websites) too. The bottom line is that ubuntu's 'deluged' package is heavily broken and does not and can not work out-of-the-box.
[13:31] <Aleric> I was asking here because I find that strange.  I even found bug reports for this that nobody ever reacted to or fixed, it seems.
[13:32] <Aleric> Most notably, by default (out of the box) deluged runs as the user 'debian-deluged', but deluge-web is broken when the user name includes a '-' and will not connect to the deluged.
[13:33] <Aleric> That is why websites that explain how to install deluged on ubuntu all tell you to create a user 'deluge' and chown -R directories that were installed by apt.
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: It's a universe package, which means it is maintained by the community. I don't know how the deluge packages are added there, if someone is simply taking them from the deluge dev group, or if someone taking the time to actually implement it specific to Ubuntu.
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> The Deluge team encourage people to install from the PPA... The volunteers here discourage PPAs because some PPA maintainers have been known to add Ubuntu core packages and then update those packages, breaking Ubuntu installations. Unfortunately, the best that I can do here is point you in the direction of that article
[13:36] <Aleric> ok
[13:37] <Aleric> This clears up enough for me to explain the brokeness and I'll just take the manual steps to make it work. Thanks.
[13:52] <soon> Howdy folks -- best IRC client for Ubuntu-Gnome?
[13:55] <pragmaticenigma> soon: For recommendations, polls, and to ask others opinions about software, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:59] <soon> pragmaticenigma: thanks -- I'll head over there
[14:23] <wr> have a ubuntu 18.04 that when i type on keyboard remotely it starts opening applications, when i write on terminal it goofs up text too, what could check?
[14:24] <wr> not sure it if it is the virtual keyboard florence
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> wr: what do you mean by remotely?
[14:26] <wr> pragmaticenigma, was acessing the ubuntu via teamviewer
[14:29] <pragmaticenigma> where is "florence" running?
[14:33] <hexo> hello everyone, i'd love to ask about do-release-upgrade
[14:34] <hexo> it has a "good" idea to kick away my graphics card driver
[14:34] <hexo> https://paste.centos.org/view/cb5e4560
[14:34] <hexo> what should i do, if i want to boot like a normal person again?
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: do-release-upgrade removes packages first so that it can install the updated versions next. What you should do before all of this is back up your machine, just in case the process does do something wrong, you can restore your backup
[14:37] <hexo> i dont have time and place for that
[14:37] <hexo> and the process was already launched
[14:37] <hexo> packages are already updated
[14:37] <hexo> now it wants to delete "old" stuff
[14:37] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: correct
[14:38] <hexo> so, if i press Y now, it will delete these, and install new driver, yes?
[14:48] <anelito> hi everyone, I tried to create a live Ubuntu USB with Etcher but apparently the available system space is just a few MB. The pendrive is a 64GB one
[14:48] <anelito> how to extend filesystem space to the whole usb drive? thank you
[14:52] <compdoc> anelito, could try using gparted to extend the partition
[14:52] <anelito> can I use dd utility instead?
[14:53] <compdoc> probably a bad idea to run any os from a usb stick for long
[14:53] <compdoc> might be able to use dd. ask in ##linux
[14:54] <rrttyy> Hi, I'm trying to open a port on amazon EC2 ubuntu 18.04.
[14:54] <rrttyy> I've edited the security group, required from amazon's side.
[14:54] <rrttyy> I can't figure out how to open the port in linux.
[14:54] <rrttyy> I've tried iptables, but it doesn't work.
[14:56] <rrttyy> ufw is not enabled, service iptables does not exist, firewalld does not exist
[14:56] <rrttyy> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[14:56] <compdoc> is there a service listening to the port?
[14:56] <rrttyy> sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[14:56] <rrttyy> No.
[14:57] <rrttyy> I'm writing a client/server program in python and I need to comunicate on that port
[14:58] <rrttyy> *should* there be a service listening to the port?
[14:58] <rrttyy> I've tried netcat and my attempts are denied.
[14:59] <rrttyy> netcat: connect to iphere port 8080 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
[15:09] <hexo> pragmaticenigma: find /lib | grep nvidia
[15:10] <hexo> pragmaticenigma: nothing comes up, so it really just deleted my drivers
[15:10] <hexo> and basically left me unable to boot if i reboot this now???
[15:11] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: that's why I recommend backing up before running do-release-upgrade
[15:11] <hexo> how would that help me? :D
[15:12] <hexo> with nvidia driver
[15:12] <hexo> :(
[15:12] <pragmaticenigma> if your machine didn't come back up after you reboot, you'd be able to restore the backup from the point before you started the update... and either try again or do more research on how to avoid the problem.
[15:12] <hexo> reasearch is what i do now
[15:13] <hexo> backup wouldn't help
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> not if you hadn't done it prior to the upgrade
[15:13] <hexo> seems like no-one knows how to avoid the problem
[15:13] <hexo> i did
[15:14] <hexo> do-release-upgrade told me it would delete 4 packages during proces
[15:14] <tdres> Hi, does anybody have experiences about the compatibility of the AMD X570 chipset and the included RAID controller?
[15:14] <hexo> then BAM it was 100
[15:14] <hexo> so what research when even updater lies
[15:14] <hexo> :D
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: I have performed plenty of upgrades with do-release-upgrade. I have not had my machine not come back up afterwards. What has happened is I had to install a few things afterwards.
[15:15] <hexo> so, what happens when i reboot it now?
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: do-release-upgrade does remove anything that was installed via PPAs, as it has to remove those PPAs to do the upgrade. This is to avoid package conflicts
[15:15] <hexo> i don't have any PPAs
[15:15] <hexo> do I?
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: Reboot and find out. you're already passed the point of no return
[15:16] <hexo> so basically no one knows?
[15:16] <hexo> no nvidia driver users around?
[15:17] <lordcirth> !patience | hexo
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: I have an nvidia card, it was too long ago since I upgraded to remember what I had to do after do-release-upgrade
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: just do the reboot and find out... there isn't a way to undo anything at this point. except to restore any backup you made prior to running the update
[15:18] <lordcirth> I am an nvidia user, but I don't generally do in-place upgrades
[15:19] <hexo> okay, /me reboots
[15:19] <hexo> thanks for help :)
[15:19] <hexo> maybe see you later
[15:19] <ioria> hexo, nvidia are compiled against the kernel ; if you upgrade  the system with a new one, but the kernel is not yet in use, how can the drivers be compiled ?
[15:20] <hexo> ioria: I get that I could have some akmod or something similar, but it not clear from updater
[15:20] <ioria> agree
[15:21] <hexo> what I really wanted to hear is - don't worry your system has akmod installed and its going to recompile your module against your new kernel upon reboot
[15:21] <hexo> maybe
[15:21] <hexo> :D
[15:21]  * hexo reboots really now
[15:22] <ioria> hexo, nomodeset to the rescue, in any case
[15:25]  * hexo is back
[15:25] <hexo> 19.04 -> 19.10 done
[15:25] <hexo> next upgrade :D
[15:26] <hexo> thanks, this time it was without problems
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> hexo: Nothing to upgrade to next... 19.10 is the latest released version
[15:26] <hexo> yup i seeeee :)
[15:27]  * hexo thought there already is 20.04
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> release is soon, but upgrade will come later
[15:27] <hexo> as I was looking at wiki for update help
[15:27] <hexo> :)))
[15:27] <hexo> nice
[15:46] <giaco> hello! how can I set default gateway priority with NetworkManager? For example, when connected with both eth and wlan to separate WAN, I'd like to configure NetworkManager to use wlan as default route. What is doing now is creating two default routes, but eth0 comes first
[15:47] <ixxie> hello folks
[15:47] <ixxie> is there a way to install a package from the 19.04 ppa in 18.04?
[15:48] <rrttyy> Hi, how would I go about opening ports? I wish to open the range 5000-24000.
[15:49] <Sven_vB> rrttyy, 1. check what closes them
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> ixxie: There is not... if you need something from a later release, you best option is to upgrade
[15:49] <Sven_vB> rrttyy, e.g., do you have a firewall installed?
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> ixxie: Sorry, that should have said "newer" release
[15:51] <Sven_vB> ixxie, if you're very lucky, downloading the old package and extracting it manually might work. depends on what libs that package needs.
[15:53] <Sven_vB> giaco, on a xenial machine I solved this with a setting "route-metric=800" in the [ipv4] section of the cable connection config in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[15:53] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB: Please don't recommend things that can lead to someone corrupting their installation. Support here is for the packages that are released for the version someone is running.
[15:53] <Sven_vB> giaco, not sure which link I tried to prioritize though, so you might need to put it in other connections.
[15:53] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, ok
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> ixxie: Another option would be to see if the package has a snap version available, that might be more up-to-date
[15:54] <ixxie> This is for an ubuntu runner on github, so upgrade isn't an option; I'm gonna just fetch a binary release.
[15:56] <rainmanjam> For anyone who's brave, pastebin your "sudo lastb -a | more " log
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> rainmanjam: Is there some that we can help you with specifically?
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> rainmanjam: brave is not officialy supported anymore
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> lotuspsychje: that's not what they were asking about
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[15:58] <rainmanjam> @pragmaticenigma I was trying to figure out why my grub-efi-amd update keeps freezing up on my apt upgrade. I'm running it in a Microsoft Azure istance.
[15:58] <rainmanjam> instance
[15:58] <Sven_vB> "Perhaps this file was removed by the operator to prevent logging lastb info." :kappa:
[15:58] <giaco> Sven_vB: thanks!
[15:59] <Sven_vB> rainmanjam, is it a virtual machine?
[15:59] <pragmaticenigma> rainmanjam: Microsoft Azure instances are customized to run on the Azure platform, support for that is through Microsoft. This channel is for Ubuntu server and desktop support
[16:00] <pragmaticenigma> rainmanjam: Also, you command is high suspicious and asking people to post things that could compromize their system in against the community guidelines here.
[16:00] <rainmanjam> @Sven_vB yes @pragmaticenigma true but it's running Ubuntu 18.04 and was hoping someone else has seen this before.
[16:01] <pragmaticenigma> rainmanjam: what you described seems highly specific to the Azure environment
[16:01] <rrttyy> Sven_vB: I'm using amazon EC2 ubuntu 18.04, there's no "service iptables" or firewalld
[16:01] <rrttyy> There is ufw but that's disabled
[16:02] <rrttyy> I've actuall been trying this for three hours
[16:02] <rrttyy> I can't open ports on my debian machine (which I'm using rn) either
[16:02] <rainmanjam> @pragmaticenigma Thanks for your time. I'll dip into the Azure chan and ask
[16:02] <Sven_vB> rrttyy, sounds like a cloud service. usually the problem there is not about opening a port on your VM interface, but how to get a port on a public IP routed to you. your cloud provider would need to offer this service.
[16:03] <rrttyy> I already have followed all the steps and opened the required ports through amazon's ec2 service.
[16:03] <Sven_vB> rrttyy, or of course you could relay from another server you have a public IP on, via SSH tunnel
[16:03] <rrttyy> I just need to open them on linux
[16:03] <rrttyy> I have them set to accept connections from my ip only
[16:03] <rrttyy> ssh to the same machine works
[16:04] <rrttyy> I enablethem on iptables but neither lsof not netstat show them as open
[16:04] <rrttyy> I can't figure out what the problem is
[16:04] <rrttyy> I can't netcat said port either
[16:04] <rrttyy> netcat works on the ssh port (22)
[16:05] <giaco> I've always used networkmanager via applet on desktop but now I want to start using it on servers/headless devices too because some feature are too good. Just a couple of general questions: when I do "nmcli c show <connections>" I do see a lot of properties. Are those controlled/able by the "connection" descriptor file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections? If I want to save a connection for future
[16:05] <giaco> use/instant configuration (ansible?) is it sufficient to save such file?
[16:12] <eelstrebor> why is the bind9-host package showing as deprecated in synaptic but i can't remove it without removing dnsutils also?
[16:17] <Sven_vB> rrttyy, you could use a packet sniffer to see at which point of connection handshake the problem occurs. e.g. if the connection request even arrives.
[16:17] <ioria> eelstrebor, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=948139
[16:17] <tdres> Hi, does anybody have experiences with the compatibility of the AMD X570 chipset and the included RAID controller? Or information where I can find out more about the compatibility with Ubuntu?
[16:18] <Sven_vB> giaco, I usually create a similar-enough connection in nm-connection-editor on a desktop machine, then edit the resulting config file as needed and upload it.
[16:19] <Sven_vB> giaco, make sure it's owned by root:root and nobody else can read or write it, NM is rather picky about the file permissions.
[16:19] <Sven_vB> then just restart the service and it should detect the connection.
[16:27] <eelstrebor> ioria, thanks
[16:49] <syntaxfree> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu 18 on a supported Dell laptop (eg media keys and all such working). But the key where I'm supposed to have the vertical pipe character -- also according to the keyboard layout in the gnome control center produces >>>
[16:50] <syntaxfree> << without shift (where originally without shift it produced \. but I'm okay with relearning key placement, problem is I can't find the vertical pipe. At all.)
[16:51] <zutat> syntaxfree: are you sure it's the correct layout variant that you chose?
[16:51] <Jordan_U> tdres: It seems like thats a card where RAID operations are done on the CPU and with main memory, ather than actually being done by separate RAID hardware. Once you've booted an OS (windows, Ubuntu, OpenBSD, etc) it is entirely the responsibility of the OS to do all RAID operations. From the OS's point of view, the motherboard is just presenting a bunch of disks as if you had no raid card at all. Thus,
[16:51] <Jordan_U> we generally call this FakeRAID. FakeRAID is not recommended with GNU/Linux because while linux's dmraid will be doing all of the raid work, you'll be using AMD's proprietary format for storing the data (called the RAID metadata). Instead, it's recommended to use mdraid with Free, more reliable metadata formats and support.
[16:52] <syntaxfree> it doesn't match my keyboard exactly. but my keyboard is printed with ABNT labels and I use US-International. This means I'm always learning key placements every computer I get to.
[16:52] <syntaxfree> But -- on Windows (which of course was shipped with this laptop) the key printed "vertical pipe, \"  did just that.
[16:53] <syntaxfree> if I could just have at any layout that has the vertical pipe bar I'd be off to the races.
[16:53] <tdres> Jordan_U: Thanks for the hint. My intention was to have a RAID that would be accessible from Linux and Windows. It's supposed to be a data disk, not for the OS itself. Is there a way to access mdraids from Windows also?
[16:54] <syntaxfree> The placement of ~, \, [] etc. is always somewhat variable in US-international layouts. At least from the vantage point of looking at a ABNT keyboard.
[16:54] <syntaxfree> I have a blank HH keyboard, but it's at the office and we're currently very discouraged to go there.
[16:55] <syntaxfree> anyway, the key thing being -- I need a vertical pipe key. I don't care where it is.
[16:56] <zutat> syntaxfree: do you have a key left to "1"?
[16:56] <syntaxfree> yes. It does ~ with shift  and ` without.
[16:57] <ratrace> Hi. Installed Ubuntu under qemu-kvm, so live USB works fine, but once installed, doesn't switch to GDM prompt. I can  reboot into multi-user.target and that way it works. Found this: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-virtualization-and-cloud-90/qemu-kvm-x11-won%27t-start-ubuntu-18-04-both-host-and-guest-4175657246/
[16:57] <syntaxfree> everything works according to the keyboard layout that shows up in the control center settings within region/language. the little keyboard button.
[16:57] <ratrace> So, short of writing a service to nuke /dev/fb0 or some udev rules, is this a known issue with a saner solution?
[16:57] <syntaxfree> everything but the vertical pipe.
[16:58] <ratrace> I find it incredible that Ubuntu does not run under qemu-kvm ...
[16:58] <syntaxfree> Instead I have redundant <<>> to the left of Z and <> to the right of M.
[16:58] <syntaxfree> | oh wait I found it.
[16:58] <Jordan_U> tdres: I'm not seeing anything from a quick google search, so I'm guessing that there's nothing tride-and-true. You might be able to do so reliably using Windows Subsystem For Linux, but I'm not sure. And if you did that, you'd likely just want to use a native linux filesystem like ext4/btrfs for your data drive. If you want to go the WSL route, lets move the discussion to ##windows. If you want to try
[16:58] <Jordan_U> to get AMD's proprietary RAID working in Ubuntu, we can discuss that here.
[16:58] <zutat> syntaxfree: where? :P
[16:59] <syntaxfree> three keys right of L.
[16:59] <syntaxfree> Most keys are according to custom. e.g. I have a ;  where 'c (ech, the &ccedil; character) is printed.
[16:59] <zutat> syntaxfree: hmm. isn't that the usual US layout position for it
[17:00] <syntaxfree> I have to configure this to support '+a = the accented character too. Didn't expect that.
[17:00] <syntaxfree> Maybe I just have to submit to the ABNT layout. I can type in ABNT, just not used to it.
[17:01] <tdres> Jordan_U: I already tried to get it working with the AMD proprietary RAID, but I never saw the disks as one. Old drivers that seem to have existed for an older version of the chipset were taken offline. If that fakeraid way would somehow work, it would be a first step.
[17:01] <zutat> syntaxfree: i just settled to US layout + compose key for "special" characters
[17:04] <syntaxfree> I hadn't installed portuguese-language support at all. Windows internationalization is already horrible. So much UI text that appears to be composed by something like f"English grammar uses {verb} here"
[17:04] <Jordan_U> syntaxfree: I don't have experience here, but localectl might help. I'm looking for more details about how to specify your own variants on a keyboard layout.
[17:05] <syntaxfree> the placement of the vertical pipe as printed  (left to the Z, but invading the space of a normal shift key) is weird already.
[17:06] <syntaxfree> great laptop though. my wife's 15"  squeezes a numpad and every key is small and wonky. this does what early 2010s metal macbooks did -- big summarized keyboard with plenty of resting space for the hands on the sides.
[17:07] <syntaxfree> only matte screen in its price range back then too. and shows up in the ubuntu supported list. easy installation overall.
[17:09] <Jordan_U> syntaxfree: You might see some useful options for layouts from "localectl list-x11-keymap-variants YOUR_LAYOUT_HERE".
[17:17] <syntaxfree> what are "dead keys"?
[17:18] <syntaxfree> (Iḿ  rummaging through the layouts in the gnome control center)
[17:18] <kk4ewt> keys that are not used on the keyboard
[17:18] <syntaxfree> so nothing to do with compose '+a.
[17:19] <kk4ewt> nope
[17:19] <syntaxfree> bizarrely enough '+m composes to ḿ  in the "Portuguese (nativo for US keyboards)" layout.
[17:19] <kk4ewt> usually its the media keys
[17:19] <zutat> syntaxfree: if i recall correctly, compose key was removed from control center and is available through gnome tweaks
[17:19] <syntaxfree> thatś not a letter that exists. ś exists in Polish afaik
[17:20] <syntaxfree> É. Pelo menos o teclado ABNT parece funcionar, não é mesmo?
[17:21] <syntaxfree> ||| this is very confusing. What is slated to be "Portuguese (Brazil)" should be ABNT, since thatś what comes printed on keyboards. But the ç key does ; as Iḿ  used to in US International.
[17:22] <syntaxfree> ok, my problem is fixed. don't boil the ocean. Thanks for your attention!
[17:22] <Jordan_U> syntaxfree: What was the fix?
[17:23] <syntaxfree> Iḿ  using the "Portuguese (Brazil)" default layout. Which in the layout preview appears to  be an ABNT layout (with the Ç key to the right of L) but in actuality isn't.
[17:24] <syntaxfree> itś more of an universal compose keyboard. as evidenced by my "itś" here.
[17:24] <syntaxfree> I have a vertical pipe. Thanks again. |||||||
[17:25] <Aleric> When I click on a torrent link in chrome - it runs some program... I have to change that now, but I can't find where this setting is. How/where can I see which program is associated with a torrent link?
[17:39] <Sven_vB> Aleric, it might be configured in ~/.config/mime/apps/mimeapps.list
[17:41] <Sven_vB> you can also put "x-scheme-handler/torrent=something.desktop", where "something.desktop" is a custom file in the same ("apps") directory
[17:42] <Sven_vB> the default .desktop files are in /usr/share/applications/, you can use that directory as well.
[17:42] <Sven_vB> (it works for all users then)
[17:43] <homa_> hi all
[17:43] <luna_> hey
[17:43] <homa_> how can i unrar file , that i don't know about password
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> homa_: There are plenty of tutorials on the web to help with that. There are no tools available in Ubuntu for trying to force a rar file to open when it is password protected
[17:46] <lordcirth> Actually, john the ripper is in the repos, as 'john'
[17:46] <lordcirth> homa_, https://www.openwall.com/john/doc/
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> if you have decades to try every possible combination... be my guest
[17:51] <Fuseteam> john the ripper....
[17:52] <EriC^^> homa_: it really depends on the encryption method, some are prone to statistical plaintext attacks if you have any idea of what's in the file, such as the headers of a file (you just need like 6bytes of it iirc)
[17:56] <ratrace> So, how come Ubuntu bionic desktop does not run under qemu-kvm?
[17:56] <lordcirth> ratrace, how so?
[17:56] <Jordan_U> ratrace: I've done it before multiple times. What qemu-kvm command are you running, and what problem are you having?
[17:57] <ratrace> lordcirth: xorg doesn't start because it sees /dev/fb0 and then errors out on that. if I remove /dev/fb0 before gdm.service starts, all is fine
[17:57] <lordcirth> ratrace, what video card are you emulating?
[17:57] <ratrace> lordcirth: whatever is default, I'm not specifying anything special there
[17:57] <Jordan_U> ratrace: What qemu-kvm command are you running, exactly?
[18:01] <ratrace> Jordan_U: https://bpaste.net/HJ4Q
[18:02] <ratrace> I have a custom script for various VMs and modalities (front, background only, rescue env, installation mode, etc...) and this is the composite of running a desktop ubuntu vm
[18:05] <Jordan_U> ratrace: Well, you're not the first person to encounter this problem but I'm surprised that I haven't found a bug report yet.
[18:07] <ratrace> Jordan_U: I know I'm not first because I found the solution about removing /dev/fb0 on linuxquestions.org . I booted into multi-user.target, ran all the updates (and btw, despite clicking the checkbox in the installer to include updates, it does not, you have to run them manually)
[18:07] <ratrace> thinking the bug was fixed since the ISO was released, but no dice.
[18:08] <rainmanjam> Has anyone ran into an issue where "sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend" locks Ubuntu into a unresponsive state?
[18:08] <Jordan_U> ratrace: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1795857 might be the bug you're hitting.
[18:10] <ratrace> Jordan_U: oh great, thanks.
[18:15] <Jordan_U> ratrace: Switching to using Spice should work around the problem, and may get you better video performance.
[18:16] <ratrace> Jordan_U: that's okay, I only need this temporarily to run some tests against some ubuntu-only software, I already wrote a service to nuke /dev/fb0 before gdm starts
[18:20] <Jordan_U> I am now excited to see that https://virgil3d.github.io/ is mature. I'll have to try it out some time soon :)
[18:25] <wlan2> So I have an issue: I can't either remove or upgrade openmpi-bin because something about /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/mpi being corrupted. That's on a machine I just upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04
[18:26] <wlan2> Never seen this before.
[18:26] <wlan2> Can't even purge it with dpkg.
[18:26] <oerheks> wlan2, join #ubuntu+1 for support, until release
[18:27] <wlan2> Alrighties
[18:35] <jezebel> hello, i just installed ubuntu using netinst and i just get a blank screen on tty7, shouldn't i at least be staying on tty1?
[18:35] <jezebel> i changed the boot target to multi-user and it's no different
[18:36] <oerheks> multi-user is tty, change to graphical-target ?
[18:36] <jezebel> it was on graphical target, i dont want a graphical target
[18:37] <jezebel> this is for 19.10 netinst btw
[18:38] <jezebel> pstree isnt giving much hints as to why it's switching to tty7 - likely because of exec'ing?
[18:39] <oerheks> i think you want tty3?
[18:41] <jezebel> i want to stay on tty1
[18:49] <ioria> jezebel, what 's in your  /etc/default/grub ?
[18:49] <jezebel> the switch to tty7 occurs even without xorg being installed btw
[18:49] <jezebel> i havent changed it
[18:50] <jezebel> it's what netinst put there
[18:50] <ioria> jezebel, cat /proc/cmdline
[18:50] <jezebel> GRUB_DEFAULT=0, GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden, GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=..., GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash", GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[18:51] <jezebel> ahhh there it is
[18:51] <jezebel> i didnt change my kernel command line btw
[18:51] <ioria> i know
[18:51] <jezebel> BOOT_IMAGE=... root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[18:51] <ioria> remove spalsh
[18:52] <jezebel> that vt.handoff looks likely
[18:52] <ioria> the same
[18:53] <jezebel> ahhh
[18:53] <ioria> and run sudo update-grub
[18:53] <jezebel> yeah i ran that already
[18:53] <jezebel> cool
[18:53] <jezebel> so it switches me to tty7 then it switches to tty1
[18:54] <jezebel> strange it would do all this when xorg isnt installed
[18:54] <ioria> i know, old story it assumes for some reason that you have already installed a de
[18:55] <ioria> so it sets grub with  'quiet splash'
[18:55] <jezebel> shouldnt splash only apply if plymouth is installed?
[18:56] <ioria> yes
[18:59] <jezebel> now to get rid of the vt.handoff
[19:13] <jezebel> is xorg meant to pull in gnome-terminal by default rather than xterm, because then that pulls in gnome-desktop
[19:14] <sarnold> probably if you apt install xterm xorg   the xterm dependency will be satisfied, then not bring in gnome-terminal
[19:14] <jezebel> yeah i am doing that instead
[19:15] <jezebel> just a bit of a surprise
[19:17] <ioria> jezebel, it pullsboth
[19:17] <zletnokt> Hi, so im totally new to Ubuntu, and this forum. Im having problems with MySql server installation. Where can I get help?
[19:18] <ioria> jezebel, apt-cache showpkg xorg | grep  xterm  (at leat on bionic)
[19:19] <jezebel> yeah
[19:19] <jezebel> it wants gnome-terminal or xterm or x-terminal-emulator
[19:21] <ioria> zletnokt, what's the problem ?
[19:25] <zletnokt> Cant start the server, get this error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'Tried google for solutions, but I dont understand what im supposed to do...
[19:27] <ioria> zletnokt,  dpkg -l | grep mysql | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:40] <analogical> maybe this is the wrong place to ask  but does anyone know what's happened with the Linux Mint IRC on Spotchat?
[19:40] <jezebel> does the socket file exist? try: stat /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[19:40] <ioria> he has multiple mysql installed
[19:40] <ioria> 57.7 + 8
[19:41] <oerheks> analogical, surely the wrong place to ask, try ##linuxmint
[19:41] <jezebel> ouch
[20:01] <Aleric> I can't figure out how I did this :(.  When I click on a link that ends in .torrent - that torrent is automatically added to a torrent client on a DIFFERENT machine.  I need to change this now, but there is no way I can find back how this works!
[20:02] <Aleric> Anyone has an idea? Can't I just see in Chrome what it does when you click on such a link?
[20:05] <Aleric> Ah... I ran 'locate torrent' on the remote server and among the huge list I found a 'torrent.py' in a directory that I wrote.  That is the script that adds it to the client.
[20:05] <Aleric> I suspect that from this machine that torrent.py is executed remotely using ssh... I guess I'll have to do a disk search :p.
[20:07] <sarnold> Aleric: ~/.mailcap perhaps?
[20:07] <Aleric> No such file
[20:09] <FrankyGov> Good evening
[20:09] <FrankyGov> I am trying to make changes to the default settings in Putty but it seems not accepting any change
[20:10] <Aleric> Hmm, I ran a 'find' on my home directory and found the file that executes this torrent.py remotely, it's ~/bin/start_deluge .. But now I have to find out from where that script is called :/
[20:10] <FrankyGov> Does anybody know how to find the config settings in Ubuntu and perhaps, attempt to change the settings from there.
[20:13] <Aleric> I don't have putty installed. I just use ssh.
[20:14] <sarnold> Aleric: you could try grep -r start_deluge ~   and see what you find
[20:14] <sarnold> Aleric: if your homedir is huge, maybe use ripgrep instead of grep -r
[20:15] <Aleric> sean:~>apt-file search ripgrep
[20:15] <Aleric> sean:~>
[20:15] <Aleric> :/
[20:16] <sarnold> I guess there's also silver searcher, executable ag
[20:16] <Aleric> I'm running: find . -type f -exec grep -l 'start_deluge' {} \;
[20:16] <Aleric> takes very long
[20:16] <sarnold> that's way too slow
[20:16] <sarnold> use grep -r instead
[20:16] <Aleric> It found something:
[20:16] <Aleric> ./.config/hexchat/logs/freenode-#ubuntu.log
[20:16] <Aleric> lol
[20:17] <sarnold> *snort* :)
[20:18] <Aleric> I found in ./.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list :
[20:18] <Aleric> [Added Associations]
[20:18] <Aleric> application/x-bittorrent=start_deluge.desktop;
[20:18] <sarnold> yay
[20:19] <Aleric> But also in ./.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[20:19] <Aleric> application/x-bittorrent=start_deluge.desktop;
[20:20] <Aleric> But yeah.. I guess I didn't have to find this :/... When I click on a .torrent it calls start_deluge, that is actually all I needed to know %-).  I can just change that script.
[20:20] <sarnold> it's nice to know *why* something works, too :)
[20:21] <Aleric> yes
[20:28] <eelstrebor> sure is difficult to decide which dns server is best - the fastest one or one with the best privacy features
[20:31] <pillager86> How do I get Minecraft to run better? I installed the Oracle Java (confirmed with java -v) and it still runs poorly
[20:42] <sarnold> pillager86: most java problems seem to be solved by throwing more memory at the problem
[20:44] <pillager86> It works reasonably well in Windows I was hoping to get it running as well in Ubuntu.
[20:45] <pillager86> I have proprietary Nvidia drivers installed and everything.
[20:47] <cluelessperson_> so lol
[20:47] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, with everything at 3.8ghz, it's flawlessly smooth
[20:47] <cluelessperson_> apparently I've been running things at 800mhz forever.
[20:48] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: woohooo!
[20:52] <jezebel> is it possible to install chromium-browser as a non-snap package?
[20:52] <luna_> jezebel: would think so
[20:53] <luna_> jezebel: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[20:53] <sarnold> jezebel: I think it depends on what release of ubuntu you're using
[20:54] <jezebel> hmmm seems not without using debian repos
[20:59] <octav1a> Hi All. At a lab I work at we have all ubuntu servers and one "Archive machine" which is a mac mini. All it does is act as a file transfer server for a number of USB disk arrays attached to it. Administrating backups, user account, and other tools on this machine is a pain compared to all of the ubuntu servers. How difficult would it be theoretically to install ubuntu server on it? Should I just request my lab to get another small computer to use instead
[20:59] <octav1a> of bothering?
[21:02] <bray90820> Maybe someone can help me with some errors I am getting on ubuntu 19.10
[21:02] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/BYDRk756
[21:07] <Aleric> Hmm, I have to move a directory of 1.7 TB to another machine.. but there is not enough space to make a tar ball.  I suppose I can use rsync? But how? :/
[21:08] <cluelessperson_> Aleric,   rsync -r --progress user@othermachine ./this_directory/
[21:08] <Aleric> bray90820: remove /var/crash/anbox-modules-dkms.0.crash and try again - then look at that file and all the other files it mentions to understand why it doesn't work.
[21:09] <bray90820> Aleric: Still getting the error after removing that file
[21:10] <Aleric> ERROR: Cannot create report: [Errno 17] File exists: '/var/crash/anbox-modules-dkms.0.crash'
[21:10] <Aleric> That one?
[21:10] <Aleric> After you removed it?
[21:10] <bray90820> Yes
[21:10] <sarnold> octav1a: I'm not sure, I've heard mac minis have a 32 bit efi environment or something else funny. an intel NUC is about the same size and probably not too expensive..
[21:11] <Aleric> Well - then just read all the files to see if you understand what the problem is
[21:12] <bray90820> I don't understand that's why I am asking in here
[21:12] <Aleric> I can't read your files
[21:12] <Aleric> Consult /var/lib/dkms/anbox/1/build/make.log for more information.
[21:12] <Aleric> You looked at it?
[21:13] <bray90820> I don't really know what the stuff in the file means but here is a pastebin of it
[21:13] <octav1a> sarnold: yeah, I think we actually have one of those lying around anyway..
[21:13] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/CsKAEiUq
[21:14] <sarnold> octav1a: woo :)
[21:15] <sarnold> bray90820: do you want anbox? do you know why you've got it?
[21:15] <bray90820> I had it to run some android apps but the ansdroid apps didn't work for what I wanted anyways
[21:16] <sarnold> you could apt purge the package if youi're not needing it
[21:18] <bray90820> yeah I did try purging anbox but that didn't work
[21:19] <Aleric> cluelessperson_: What am I doing wrong?
[21:19] <Aleric> sean:/opt/verylarge>rsync -r --progress --inplace --links --perms --acls --times carlo@hikaru::/opt/verylarge/deluge deluge2
[21:19] <Aleric> ERROR: The remote path must start with a module name not a /
[21:19] <Armageddon> Aleric, why is there 2 : ? and why aren't you using a pastebin ?
[21:20] <Aleric> For two lines?
[21:20] <Armageddon> believe it or not, makes them more readable for some
[21:20] <Armageddon> but you have 2 :
[21:21] <sarnold> heh, I did see a two-line paste the other day where the second line just never made it through. the other guy was really confused..
[21:22] <Aleric> ok it's running.. ETA 30 minutes.
[21:22] <Armageddon> cool, now you copy all of your ubuntu images to your system
[21:23] <Aleric> Yes yes, they are ubuntu images *cough*
[21:33] <Aleric> Ugh - this is actually going to take 14 hours :(
[21:38] <Armageddon> Aleric, maybe you should make sure you're running it in a tmux session, or screen and that you add the resume flag at some point, maybe simply use -avP
[21:38] <Armageddon> good luck
[21:39] <Aleric> I'll take the risk now it already runs... if it fails then I'm going to move the harddisk to other PC to make a copy :?
[21:48] <Aleric> I just did a very 1337 grep:
[21:48] <Aleric> carlo    13337  0.0  0.0  16320  1100 pts/4    S+   23:47   0:00 grep deluged
[21:48] <sarnold> :)
[21:58] <Sven_vB> in xenial or bionic, is there a way to assign a file system label to an MBR/EBR partition that contains a LUKS-encrypted LVM PV?
[21:59] <EriC^^> Sven_vB: afaik mbr doesnt have labels
[22:09] <Sven_vB> EriC^^, indeed. I mentioned MBR/EBR to clarify that I'm looking for sth. like file system labels, i.e. inside the partition, as opposed to GPT partition names.
[22:10] <Sven_vB> EriC^^, various file systems like ext[234], FAT, NTFS etc. offer the label feature, so I thought maybe a LUKS container has it as well.
[22:12] <Sven_vB> I should have called it "container" in the first place. found https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/230308 now.
[22:12] <Aleric> How can a MBR be encrypted? :/
[22:13] <Jordan_U> Sven_vB: LUKS2 containers can have unencrypted labels.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Sven_vB: Why use MBR in the year 2020 though?
[22:15] <Sven_vB> Aleric, an MBR is just data. :) you might be looking for hardware disk encryption, or a loop device with an entire disk image in it. in my case, the encryption is limited to one partition; the MBR doesn't know about it.
[22:16] <Sven_vB> Jordan_U, Win8 compatibility.
[22:16] <Sven_vB> Jordan_U, my Win8.1 cannot boot when its boot loader partition is on a GPT disk.
[22:17] <Sven_vB> Jordan_U, thanks for the LUKS2 hint anyway. :)
[22:56] <giaco> Sven_vB: thanks!
[23:10] <giaco> to rename a networkmanager connection via command line, is it sufficient to rename the file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections and restart the service?
[23:13] <sarnold> giaco: try nm-cli
[23:13] <sarnold> or nmcli, I can't recall
[23:39] <gimmel> Hi all, I'm having difficulty running apt update. All of the sources report errors about not having a Release file. On research, this is usually a time/date issue, but 'date' returns correctly. What else might I need to look into?
[23:45] <Bashing-om> gimmel: Out-of-support release ? What shows ' lsb_release -a ' ?
[23:47] <gimmel> Bashing-om: nope - 19.04 disco
[23:47] <Bashing-om> !19.04 | gimmel
[23:49] <gimmel> Bashing-om: dang. Ok. Thanks
[23:50] <Bashing-om> gimmel: :) .. Now might be a good time to test the upcoming LTS 20.04.
[23:51] <gimmel> Bashing-om: I was just going to start doing the upgrade to 19.10...
[23:51] <Bashing-om> gimmel: 19.10 is also short lived.
[23:52] <Bashing-om> !19.10
[23:52] <gimmel> Bashing-om: Am I not better to go to 19.10 before going further though?
[23:52] <sarnold> yes
[23:52] <sarnold> go to 19.10 and I suggest holding off another few weeks before going to 20.04
[23:53] <sarnold> unless you like filing bug reports of course, in which case please do :)
[23:53] <Bashing-om> gimmel: If you are to on-line upgrade from 19.04 then you have no other choice than next 19.10.
[23:53] <gimmel> sarnold: haha - not on this box, thanks ;)
[23:55] <sarnold> gimmel: aha, then 19.10 asap, 20.04 when convenient (weeks)
[23:58] <gimmel> Alright, so follow the instructions here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EoanUpgrades, and it tells me to first modify /etc/updaet-manager/release-upgrades, and then run do-release-upgrade. This fails simply saying my release is not supported and to check upgrade instructions here - http://www.ubuntu.com/releaseendoflife. This just redirects to /about/release-cycle, which appears to be just info about
[23:58] <gimmel> the release cycle, not upgrade instructions.