| Bashing-om | !eol | 00:01 |
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| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 00:01 |
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| javahorn | Hello | 00:13 |
| javahorn | while running docker create at ubunu, i am getting "Waiting for IP.. " error. | 00:14 |
| javahorn | what can be solution? | 00:14 |
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| Sven_vB | giaco, for the human-visible name NM will use id=??? from [connection] | 00:42 |
| Sven_vB | giaco, I usually name my NM config files by their id + .ini | 00:43 |
| giaco | sarnold: got it! changing the id properties with nmcli changes the contents & the connection filename at the same time | 00:50 |
| giaco | Sven_vB: Sven_vB nmcli c edit command does the same | 00:50 |
| sarnold | giaco: nice :) | 00:51 |
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| javahorn | sorry rfm. was dc | 01:08 |
| iconoclasthero | i'm having a problem with my desktop manager selecton on 18.04. I want to be using gnome-flashback metacity, but after a bunch of problems, they no longer show up as options on my login screen. is there someway to get them back? | 01:11 |
| Bashing-om | iconoclasthero: Might try ' sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-flashback ' . Reboot, do you now have the option in the login ? | 01:15 |
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| iconoclasthero | no. | 01:16 |
| iconoclasthero | i've probably done that more times than i have fingers. | 01:16 |
| Bashing-om | iconoclasthero: Humm .. is gnome-flashback availabale to the sytem ' ls -al ls /usr/share/xsessions | 01:19 |
| Bashing-om | iconoclasthero: ls -al /usr/share/xsessions | 01:20 |
| iconoclasthero | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J4dpBhSR4n/ | 01:21 |
| iconoclasthero | i don't know what it used to look like, but i think the only thing that actually logs in right now is mate. | 01:21 |
| iconoclasthero | and this green is driving me crazy. | 01:21 |
| Bashing-om | iconoclasthero: Any hints when re-configuring ' sudo dkpg-reconfigure gnome-flashback ' ? | 01:27 |
| iconoclasthero | not a peep. | 01:28 |
| iconoclasthero | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vKTwKTpppW/ | 01:29 |
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| Sven_vB | iconoclasthero, do you have both gnome-session-flashback and gnome-flashback installed? | 01:31 |
| Sven_vB | it seems https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gnome-session-flashback is the one that adds the actual session | 01:31 |
| iconoclasthero | no | 01:33 |
| iconoclasthero | i shall add it. | 01:33 |
| iconoclasthero | update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/bin/startdde (part of link group x-session-manager) doesn't exist; removing from list of alternatives | 01:34 |
| iconoclasthero | update-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager is dangling; it will be updated with best choice | 01:34 |
| iconoclasthero | update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/gnome-session to provide /usr/bin/x-session-manager (x-session-manager) in auto mode | 01:34 |
| iconoclasthero | gnome-session-flashback.target is a disabled or a static unit not running, not starting it. | 01:34 |
| Sven_vB | maybe it will work after a reboot | 01:35 |
| iconoclasthero | however, the /usr/share/xsessions does have the gnome-flashback-compiz & -metacity. | 01:35 |
| iconoclasthero | yeah... i'll do that. | 01:35 |
| iconoclasthero | they showed up. | 01:45 |
| iconoclasthero | i.e., metacity and compiz | 01:45 |
| iconoclasthero | but, although parts of the desktop flickered on for a second on each of them, it just dumped me back to the DM. | 01:45 |
| iconoclasthero | which I THINK is GDM3 because lightdm might not be working right now. | 01:46 |
| sarnold | iconoclasthero: check your logs? maybe ~/.xsession? maybe the user journal? | 01:46 |
| iconoclasthero | ~/.xsession-errors.old is ca. 300k. | 01:48 |
| iconoclasthero | i think a lot of errors are from guake | 01:49 |
| Sven_vB | iconoclasthero, does it mean you've tried lightdm? did it not work? | 01:51 |
| iconoclasthero | it seems to be a fair amount of private information in there. | 01:51 |
| iconoclasthero | i was running lightdm until this started and was perfectly happy with it. | 01:51 |
| Sven_vB | iconoclasthero, "this started" = flashback session missing? | 01:51 |
| iconoclasthero | well, i tried to compile something from source and because i had some dependency issues, i decided to solve them creatively. | 01:52 |
| Sven_vB | hehe. you could try lightdm again now :) | 01:52 |
| iconoclasthero | yeah... | 01:53 |
| iconoclasthero | sven_vb how do i check now? | 01:56 |
| iconoclasthero | hmm... i guess i have to actually reboot... killing gdm3 isn't enough. | 01:57 |
| Sven_vB | not sure how to ensure lightdm when other display managers are installed. | 01:58 |
| sarnold | iirc dpkg-reconfigure lightdm may be able to do it | 01:59 |
| Mibix | what the hell am i supposed to do with this in the terminal? https://i.imgur.com/6f8sB3L.png | 02:02 |
| Mibix | i cant type anything | 02:02 |
| sarnold | try tab or arrows to try to select that Ok | 02:02 |
| Mibix | haha i found it | 02:04 |
| Mibix | have to hit esc | 02:04 |
| Mibix | man this is so messed up | 02:05 |
| Sven_vB | you can also select other ways of interacting with dpkg, e.g. via text editor. | 02:05 |
| Mibix | now i select something on the second screen and it takes me back to the first | 02:05 |
| Sven_vB | you can even specify a custom text editor. I do this to auto-answer known questions, and edit the others remotely via network. | 02:05 |
| Mibix | yeah i didnt have a main.cf file generated though wasnt sure if there was supposed to be anything in there before i edited | 02:05 |
| Mibix | ohh hmm | 02:05 |
| Sven_vB | did you even intend to install postfix? | 02:06 |
| Mibix | yes | 02:06 |
| Mibix | trying to get mdadm alerts | 02:06 |
| Sven_vB | then nullmailer may be enough | 02:06 |
| Sven_vB | way easier to set up | 02:06 |
| Mibix | its getting a postfix error when i send the test email in mdadm | 02:07 |
| Mibix | so i think that is what it has to use | 02:07 |
| Sven_vB | I'd be surprised if mdadm needs a full-blown local mail server | 02:07 |
| Sven_vB | I mean, there's no reason it should, just for sending alerts. | 02:08 |
| sarnold | probably mdadm just uses /usr/sbin/sendmail | 02:08 |
| sarnold | anything else would reduce the number of people who could use it | 02:08 |
| Sven_vB | yeah why would they even bother checking the capabilities of the software behind sendmail | 02:09 |
| Sven_vB | maybe desktop Ubuntu should start to use nullmailer as the default suggestion for programs that need just any sendmail as a dependency. | 02:10 |
| Mibix | ok yeah i think sendmail will work | 02:11 |
| sarnold | I use msmtp and haven't noticed anything yet that doesn't like it | 02:12 |
| sarnold | but I've heard good things about nullmailer | 02:12 |
| sarnold | both should be way easier to set up than postfix or exim or *shudder* actual sendmail | 02:12 |
| Sven_vB | I'll have a look at msmtp. maybe it's even easier than nullmailer. | 02:13 |
| k_sze | What's a command that I can use to quickly convert a bmp into png? I don't want to fire up GIMP everytime just for that. | 02:13 |
| matsaman | k_sze: 'convert' from imagemagick | 02:13 |
| matsaman | convert foo.bmp bar.png | 02:13 |
| Mibix | im trying nullmailer | 02:14 |
| iconoclasthero | it seems that the only way my machine will permit me to interact with it graphically is mate on gdm3. | 02:15 |
| iconoclasthero | however, i'm rebooting a lot and that is annoying to begin with but my data drive is loud and something is scanning it every time i log in. how can i figure out what is doing that and how to make it stop? | 02:17 |
| sarnold | k_sze: be careful with imagemagick though -- it's a walking cve factory. it's perfectly fine for images you generate yourself or get off your own cameras, but don't go putting up a web form for the internet to submit photos to it without using apparmor profiles and seccomp limits on it :) | 02:17 |
| Sven_vB | iconoclasthero, I'd try different desktops then, from low-level up, e.g. lightdm+openbox, then lightdm+xfce, and see how the error logs develop. lower level desktop = less magic that distracts from the relevant errors. | 02:17 |
| iconoclasthero | sorry, not every time i login, every time i reboot. | 02:18 |
| matsaman | unplug your data drive | 02:18 |
| k_sze | sarnold, thanks for the heads up. | 02:18 |
| iconoclasthero | yeah, it's internal. | 02:18 |
| Sven_vB | iconoclasthero, iotop might show what happens with the drive. I suspect udisksd cleanup, or some "*locate" tool | 02:18 |
| k_sze | I only ever write webapps in Django, and so I usually use Pillow for image manipulation. | 02:18 |
| Sven_vB | iconoclasthero, on reboot it's expected for your disks to spin up, probably because some services initialize or just for the logging. | 02:19 |
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| iconoclasthero | thanks, that at least gives me a place to start. as far as spinning up... it's possible but it extends for quite some time. | 02:20 |
| iconoclasthero | it's a 4 TB drive and it's probably 2/3 full | 02:20 |
| iconoclasthero | 57% | 02:20 |
| Mibix | hmm i got Google blocked the app you were trying to use because it doesn't meet our security standards. | 02:22 |
| Mibix | then i allowed it | 02:22 |
| iconoclasthero | i thought it might be minidlna or deluge. they would both be scanning. | 02:22 |
| Mibix | still doesnt seem to be sending anything lol | 02:22 |
| matsaman | k_sze: not sure if there are CVEs applicable to the latest version of imagemagick | 02:23 |
| iconoclasthero | i also found an installation of sonar i that i believe is active that i vaguely remember installing a while back. | 02:23 |
| Mibix | do i have to do anything with nginx for nullmailer? | 02:26 |
| iconoclasthero | sven_vb, i've been limping along here until i can get 20.04. thanks for the help. | 02:30 |
| Mibix | ugh cant get nullmailer working even though it gave me a security prompt on gmail and i allowed it | 02:38 |
| Mibix | seems like its reaching gmail at least | 02:38 |
| sarnold | if you want it to work with gmail you'll probably need to generate a per-application password for it, too | 02:39 |
| Mibix | i think the defaultdomain thing is what im getting wrong | 02:40 |
| Mibix | ahh you might be right sarnoid | 02:42 |
| Mibix | GRRRR | 02:47 |
| Mibix | generated app password, put it in the config following this guide https://wiki.debian.org/nullmailer#Installation_Examples_-_GMail | 02:49 |
| Mibix | Apr 16 22:51:24 mibix-module nullmailer-send[2717]: smtp: Failed: 454 4.7.0 Too many login attempts, please try again later. g6sm2782317ooo.41 - gsmtp | 02:52 |
| Mibix | lmao | 02:52 |
| * Mibix dies inside | 02:52 | |
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| tuxcompsci | hello | 03:11 |
| tuxcompsci | I have a problem | 03:11 |
| tuxcompsci | I am running apache server and I can access the website via the public IP address from all the computers on my network | 03:11 |
| tuxcompsci | except the computer its hosted on | 03:11 |
| tuxcompsci | I tried a new apache install on my laptop, and it works fine | 03:11 |
| tuxcompsci | accessing the website hosted on the laptop via the public IP address works fine | 03:12 |
| tuxcompsci | I cannot do the same on my desktop | 03:12 |
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| gimmel | Hi all, for anyone who was here before - I've run through the 19.04 to 19.10 upgrade. Upon reboot I got the "grub_file_filters not found" boot issue that some people have had (https://askubuntu.com/questions/1183951/grub-file-filters-not-found-after-ubuntu-19-10-upgrade). I've followed the instructions of chroot'ing into the fs and re-installing grub. On rebooting again I'm not facing a standard grub | 03:29 |
| gimmel | prompt. I'm stuck with how to attempt booting from here. | 03:29 |
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| mfilipe[m] | if i install 20.04 beta, it will upgrade to 20.04 stable automatically without problems, right? | 03:55 |
| matsaman | that's the theory, but you should probably still talk to #ubuntu+1 | 03:56 |
| lotuspsychje | !final | mfilipe[m] | 04:11 |
| ubottu | mfilipe[m]: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Focal and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 20.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal. | 04:11 |
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| Copenhagen_Bram | Hello! How do I configure Lubuntu live to ignore power button presses? I have a computer that's messed up such that if you hold it the wrong way or close the lid too firmly it triggers the power button. I'm introducing my mother to Linux using Lubuntu Live. If it reboots, any configurations will be undone. | 04:27 |
| matsaman | Copenhagen_Bram: well, the configurations shouldn't be undone, but | 04:32 |
| matsaman | Copenhagen_Bram: https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.12/power_management.html | 04:32 |
| Copenhagen_Bram | Hmm | 04:36 |
| Copenhagen_Bram | lxqt-config-powermanagement doesn't seem to have any options for the power button though | 04:37 |
| Copenhagen_Bram | I've solved it though: I edited /etc/systemd/logind.conf and ran systemctl restart systemd-logind | 04:37 |
| pillager86 | What is a good software for basic (think mspaint) image editing for Ubuntu? | 04:41 |
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| matsaman | pillager86: gimp | 04:43 |
| pillager86 | Ok also does Ubuntu by default let the PC stay on without suspending or do I have to configure something? | 04:45 |
| pillager86 | I have important cron jobs scheduled every 30 minutes and I don't want the PC falling asleep | 04:45 |
| matsaman | if it's a desktop, probably won't suspend by default, but check your power manager prefs | 04:45 |
| pillager86 | ok thanks | 04:47 |
| matsaman | should be easy to find from Settings | 04:47 |
| mfilipe[m] | lotuspsychje: thanks | 04:59 |
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| A1Recon | hi | 05:36 |
| CQ | hello, how do I get everything on my system in english, but 24h clock and metric units? | 05:37 |
| CQ | I've looked through all the settings, but somehow my system language is german | 05:37 |
| A1Recon | What does emergency mode in Ubuntu mean? I'm getting multiple ACPI errors and two nouveau errors which might be causing this. | 05:39 |
| A1Recon | CQ have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-language.html.en ? | 05:40 |
| A1Recon | Also please post which version of Ubuntu you are running? | 05:40 |
| CQ | Latest Eoan, and using KDE, I can't find the setting you referenced | 05:41 |
| CQ | A1Recon, I've looked through all the plasma settings, and English is the default language wherever I can find it | 05:43 |
| A1Recon | CQ I haven't used KDE in years. Can you find the Win/Super key on your keyboard and hit that? Does it bring up a search bar or dash of sorts? | 05:44 |
| CQ | I am in the regional settings for plasma | 05:44 |
| CQ | the weird thing is also that things like Apt are in German | 05:45 |
| A1Recon | CQ type in `locale` in your terminal and show the output | 05:46 |
| A1Recon | `locale` | 05:46 |
| CQ | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FSb3NVGFj6/ | 05:46 |
| CQ | LANGUAGE=en_US:de ... what does the :de at the end mean? | 05:47 |
| A1Recon | de stands for german | 05:47 |
| CQ | duh, I know that. | 05:47 |
| CQ | ...but en_US is the language, what is the :de pasrt at the end? what does it affect? | 05:48 |
| CQ | is it the character set? | 05:48 |
| A1Recon | sorry mate i am a newbie... literally googling everything | 05:50 |
| A1Recon | about locale | 05:50 |
| A1Recon | CQ this is a good article on setting locales https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Configure_Locales_in_Ubuntu | 05:52 |
| theshagg | Stupid question: I'm experiencing an AMD GPU bug that appears to be fixed in kernel 5.6 | 05:54 |
| theshagg | is there any chance this fix would make it into Ubuntu 20.04? | 05:55 |
| theshagg | bug thread: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/issues/900 | 05:55 |
| OnceMe | hi, on my ubuntu 16.04 wifi is superslow, once I change it to precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100 its working super fast, why is that ? also changing to precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100 makes my docker not being able to fetch stuff from registry | 06:27 |
| OnceMe | is there any proper way t ofix this? | 06:27 |
| OnceMe | basically without precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100 my net speed is 0.5mbps | 06:27 |
| OnceMe | with precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100 its 50 Mbps | 06:27 |
| OnceMe | why is this? | 06:27 |
| cluelessperson_ | VLC seems to be using cpu 100% for 4K decoding | 06:49 |
| cluelessperson_ | how do I pursue making sure it's using hardware acceleration? | 06:49 |
| cluelessperson_ | So, my machine is ubuntu certified | 06:56 |
| cluelessperson_ | but I'm finding that "certification" doesn't include, supporting video drivers, for example, which is concerning. | 06:56 |
| tarzeau | haha | 06:56 |
| tarzeau | lspci |grep VGA? | 06:57 |
| cluelessperson_ | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 (Whiskey Lake) (rev 02) | 06:58 |
| cluelessperson_ | I mean I could be wrong, but I'm not finding much way to troubleshoot it | 06:58 |
| tarzeau | uh no idea really, only got nvidia hardware | 06:58 |
| tarzeau | cluelessperson_: it's a laptop? | 06:59 |
| tarzeau | https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop must be one of that? | 06:59 |
| cluelessperson_ | tarzeau, yes. | 06:59 |
| cluelessperson_ | https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201906-27127 | 07:00 |
| tarzeau | you could try running hw-probe and then check the URL | 07:00 |
| cluelessperson_ | https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=5e96e26347 | 07:03 |
| cluelessperson_ | tarzeau, ^ | 07:03 |
| tarzeau | if you scroll down you see your graphics thing, with status works, no notes | 07:04 |
| tarzeau | https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=pci:8086-3ea0-17aa-2292 | 07:05 |
| tarzeau | that'd be the hardware you mean by pci id | 07:05 |
| tarzeau | you got kernel 4.16 or newer? | 07:05 |
| tarzeau | cluelessperson_: here's what i found https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hardware_video_acceleration | 07:06 |
| tarzeau | got linux-firmware installed? | 07:06 |
| tarzeau | guess you're on 18.04? | 07:06 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ hello there . I have the same GPU, let me show you whats my output . This was a 2K footage with vlc | 07:06 |
| takov751 | VLC media player 3.0.9.2 Vetinari (revision 3.0.9.2-0-gd4c1aefe4d) | 07:06 |
| takov751 | [000055a3970e15b0] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. | 07:06 |
| takov751 | Gtk-Message: 08:04:51.982: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" | 07:06 |
| takov751 | libva info: VA-API version 1.7.0 | 07:06 |
| takov751 | libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so | 07:06 |
| takov751 | libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_7 | 07:06 |
| takov751 | libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 | 07:06 |
| tarzeau | maybe that intel-hybrid-codec-driver (no idea if it exists for ubuntu) | 07:06 |
| takov751 | [00007f9f0cc0f570] avcodec decoder: Using Intel iHD driver for Intel(R) Gen Graphics - 20.1.1 () for hardware decoding | 07:06 |
| mbnt | Hi, I got AMD A10-5750M APU HD graphics...is there a way to install extra amd firmware on Ubuntu? | 07:07 |
| mbnt | I tried the GUI thingy and nothing shows up | 07:08 |
| mbnt | the 'additional drivers' tab | 07:08 |
| takov751 | mesa does all the job. You dont really need to do anything | 07:08 |
| takov751 | mbnt | 07:08 |
| cluelessperson_ | tarzeau, so, it says vdpau isn't available, so I installed libvdpau-va-gl1 and now it shows that it is | 07:08 |
| cluelessperson_ | mesa didn't do the job for me | 07:09 |
| mbnt | I sort of got a feeling that more drivers are 'out there' | 07:09 |
| mbnt | Ahh, install the MESA | 07:09 |
| cluelessperson_ | I tried, didn't work | 07:09 |
| mbnt | takov751, That shoudl do me? | 07:09 |
| cluelessperson_ | libvdpau-va-gl1 makes vdpau-info happy | 07:09 |
| takov751 | mbnt i meant the mesa comment for you | 07:09 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ Do you have a nvidia gpu? | 07:09 |
| mbnt | takov751, The padoka ppa perhaps? | 07:10 |
| mbnt | Paolo Dias | 07:10 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, no | 07:11 |
| OnceMe | yo | 07:11 |
| takov751 | mbnt i dont think you need it. If you are using amd apu just go with the latest mesa available on your system which is installed by default | 07:11 |
| OnceMe | how can I get encryption on 18.04 but with dual boot win? | 07:11 |
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| takov751 | cluelessperson_ then you dont need libvdpau as its a nvidia thingy | 07:11 |
| mbnt | takov751, The default is not good. I feel there is better to be had. How do I check what Ubuntu like-a-version I am? | 07:12 |
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| cluelessperson_ | takov751, so I'm going to uninstall it again | 07:13 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, what *DO* I need? | 07:13 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ you just have to install the `intel-media-va-driver` or there is a non-free version as well,however i have no idea if its comes with any good thing | 07:13 |
| cluelessperson_ | and how do I navigate this space instead of feeling blindly in the dark | 07:13 |
| cluelessperson_ | black box bs | 07:13 |
| * cluelessperson_ tries the nonfree driver | 07:14 | |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ try `sudo apt install intel-media-va-driver i965-va-driver` for a start and see if its all installed | 07:14 |
| cluelessperson_ | the free one is already installed | 07:14 |
| takov751 | nice i have the same | 07:14 |
| takov751 | and as you saw it was working for me as well | 07:15 |
| cluelessperson_ | those are both installed already | 07:15 |
| cluelessperson_ | no change | 07:16 |
| cluelessperson_ | VLC is still using high cpu | 07:16 |
| takov751 | mbnt if you need vulkan and glx for gaming or something similar i would recommend you this : https://github.com/lutris/lutris/wiki/Installing-drivers thats the latest i can give you the kisak mesa . And read the DXVK and Esync tab as well on the right hand side . GLHF | 07:17 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ ok If you run the vlc in the terminal `vlc $VIDEOFILE` whats the output. Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 07:18 |
| takov751 | That will give you a proper debugable answer for your problem whats missing | 07:18 |
| takov751 | as i have shared beforhand | 07:18 |
| takov751 | We have to know what your system missing | 07:19 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ Quick question Does this two installed as well ? `sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu-restricted-addons` | 07:20 |
| takov751 | these contains some non-free codecs which might be a pain later on | 07:20 |
| takov751 | if missing | 07:20 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, no, not installed. | 07:23 |
| takov751 | Ok that might be helpfull | 07:23 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, what am I looking for in vlc log? | 07:24 |
| takov751 | after you installed please run vlc from terminal and see if its using libva correctly what you have to see that `libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0` which says that yes hwaccel driver loaded and working | 07:25 |
| mbnt | takov751, It is less about games, more about watching movies without tearing. I dual boot, on Windows, playback is smooth, on Linux, not so much. | 07:26 |
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| cluelessperson_ | libavcodec ? | 07:27 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, ^ | 07:27 |
| cluelessperson_ | is anyone here familiar with the video pipeline anyway? | 07:29 |
| takov751 | mbnt try run `xrandr -q` ,than the output which you are using use that use something like this where your output is in this example is HDMI-1 `xrandr --output HDMI-1 --set TearFree on` | 07:30 |
| takov751 | this is a temporary solution ,but might give you an idea if thats the problem | 07:31 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ any success? | 07:31 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, none whatsoever | 07:31 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, I need a sensible pipeline of components. | 07:31 |
| takov751 | weird indeed. And i presume its a fresh install | 07:31 |
| cluelessperson_ | thing > thing > thing > thing > display | 07:31 |
| cluelessperson_ | not this, "try installing random crap and hope it works" | 07:32 |
| mbnt | takov751, Ahh, thanks | 07:32 |
| mbnt | takov751, I am not really a gamer, unless it is 20+ years old | 07:32 |
| mbnt | takov751, and linux games | 07:33 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ I see your point however , it is indeed hard to help without knowing the context . As i said earlier vlc in terminal could give you a proper feedback whats wrong. Thats the best solution i could think of. If something missing by default that something needs to be adressed so it wont be a problem for users later on. | 07:34 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, I don't even know what to look for. VLC outputs thousands of lines of info depending on various things. | 07:34 |
| takov751 | mbnt there are plenty good games on gog.com ,on steam which are great for that specs you have :D there is retroarch as well . Or even startcraft works with lutris with a simple install script :D | 07:35 |
| mbnt | takov751, I have a desktop with more powerful graphics, but that is for video editing. I just prefer older games. | 07:36 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ you need the lines which starts with `libva info` as your hardware is the intel and libva is the driver for the intel GPU s | 07:37 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, vlc --verbosity 2>&1 | grep libva returns nothing. | 07:38 |
| cluelessperson_ | vainfo also doesn't seem to include h265 | 07:38 |
| cluelessperson_ | does have h264 | 07:38 |
| mbnt | takov751, Sometimes on desktop I play 0AD, it is fun. | 07:39 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ you dont even need verbosity | 07:42 |
| mbnt | takov751, I used to use Lightworks for video editing on Linux with AMDGPUPRO, but need a more powerful card for Blender, minimum 8 gigs for video editing | 07:42 |
| takov751 | as it is in the normal output | 07:42 |
| mbnt | I just have fourgigs : - ( | 07:42 |
| mbnt | takov751, I think your tearing thing is working! | 07:42 |
| takov751 | right thats only a temporary solution | 07:42 |
| mbnt | takov751, Have not seen any tearing yet. : - ) | 07:42 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, vlc doesn't output anything without verbosity | 07:47 |
| cluelessperson_ | I mean it does.. .uh, let me check | 07:48 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, oh I see | 07:48 |
| cluelessperson_ | `Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_va_gl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory` | 07:48 |
| cluelessperson_ | hrk | 07:48 |
| takov751 | mbnt I know its not ubuntu ,however if you follow this section of the archwiki tear free setting will be enabled allways . Weird that this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU#Xorg_configuration | 07:49 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ than you have to remove libvdpau and vdpau packages as they are not working | 07:49 |
| === leion1 is now known as leion | ||
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, I see this here: `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/vdpau/libvdpau_va_gl.so` | 07:52 |
| takov751 | yes thats the backend which uses your GPU Opengl as video decoding hardware ,which is not suitable for your hw as you have a hwaccel capable GPU | 07:53 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, oh, so opengl is a more generic gpu driver being used for vdpau | 07:54 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, where as I probably want a more direct gpu vdpau driver | 07:54 |
| cluelessperson_ | ? | 07:54 |
| cluelessperson_ | but it *is* there though | 07:55 |
| takov751 | vdpau driver is used by nvidia as they have vdpu chips on board, however intel hw support something called VAAPI | 07:56 |
| takov751 | which is the libva | 07:56 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, well, I'm confused, because I use vdpau-info and I get results | 08:00 |
| cluelessperson_ | well it supports several things | 08:00 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, https://bpaste.net/3WHA | 08:01 |
| takov751 | yes as its by default goes vdpau > libva , in case if libva not avalaible libva_gl | 08:01 |
| cluelessperson_ | libva2 is installed | 08:02 |
| cluelessperson_ | `libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_drv_video.so` | 08:02 |
| cluelessperson_ | seems to support things | 08:02 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, https://bpaste.net/IFEA | 08:03 |
| cluelessperson_ | vainfo | 08:03 |
| takov751 | It seems you have hw accel | 08:03 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, yeah, but it seems vlc isn't using it | 08:03 |
| cluelessperson_ | OMG, I'm dumb | 08:07 |
| cluelessperson_ | instead of "Video" it's "Input/Codecs" | 08:07 |
| takov751 | OOH BOI we just overcomplicated everything :D | 08:07 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, instead of automatic I set it to va-api | 08:08 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, so it's maintaining 20%-50% of each of the 8 cores, instead of 75-100% of all the cores. | 08:08 |
| cluelessperson_ | So, that's a major improvement | 08:08 |
| takov751 | nice :) | 08:09 |
| CQ | What does this mean from Locale: LANGUAGE=en_US:de ...I undertstand the en_US part, but what aboutthe DE (German) after the colon? | 08:10 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, it appears to me that the vd-pau driver may actually redirect back to va-api | 08:10 |
| cluelessperson_ | no cpu change when setting it to vd-pau | 08:11 |
| * cluelessperson_ tries va-api -> automatic to watch the cpu go up to confirm | 08:11 | |
| takov751 | yes , thats the default it something like a fallback solution in case the vdpau not available , weird sadly i have no footage to test it with my own GPU | 08:12 |
| takov751 | cluelessperson_ i just had an idea. Does the videofile comes from a NTFS filesystem partition ? Like an external HDD or a Windows shared partition? | 08:13 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, the videofile is 25GB and is coming from a smb share through nautilus / gvfs | 08:14 |
| takov751 | That might be the CPU useage, as its a big chunk of the data to move temporary on your device | 08:15 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, I don't think so. | 08:16 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, 25GB is basically 3-5 MBps, and my wifi card is currently connected at 400Mbps | 08:18 |
| takov751 | fair point. I cant think of anything else . | 08:19 |
| takov751 | I have to go , I do hope i could help you cluelessperson_ | 08:20 |
| takov751 | :D Good day to you | 08:20 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, thanks | 08:20 |
| cluelessperson_ | takov751, Thanks for all the help! | 08:20 |
| cluelessperson_ | tarzeau, thanks for the helpful info command | 08:22 |
| djp_ | software updater has started to cause problems. it will run and update but never close. just hangs. if i try to view its settings, i can, but on closing them, software updater just sits there, greyed out. if i run it from the cli it reports the following; '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py:40: PyGIWarning: Gdk was imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.require_version('Gdk', '3.0') before import to | 08:31 |
| djp_ | ensure that the right version gets loaded. from gi.repository import GObject, Gdk, Gtk, Gio, GLib/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py:40: PyGIWarning: Gtk was imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.require_version('Gtk', '3.0') before import to ensure that the right version gets loaded. from gi.repository import GObject, Gdk, Gtk, Gio, GLib' | 08:31 |
| oerheks | djp_, remove ~/.cache/gnome-software and try again? | 08:38 |
| oerheks | or run manual; sudo apt clean && sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade | 08:38 |
| djp_ | oerheks, thanks. i don't have a ~/.cache/gnome-software file/folder? will try other option. | 08:42 |
| === leion1 is now known as leion | ||
| oerheks | what version are you on? | 08:42 |
| djp_ | oerheks, apt commands ran without issue. software updater still hangs. | 08:44 |
| djp_ | oerheks, 16.04 | 08:44 |
| G3ph4z | Hi. I'd like to deploy ubuntu-cloud ova, and setup with seed iso. After the ova deploy the seed iso is inserted, and the host change the hostname as it says in the meta-data, but the user-data or any network config doesn't applied. | 09:12 |
| wattsra | I installed 20.04 about 10 days ago from the (at the time) latest image. I have been constantly updating, upgrading, dist-upgrading, whic is fine. What do you reckon my chance is of having a stable system once all the images/packages are completely locked down and final for the fossa release? Do I really need to nuke and pave again? | 09:29 |
| Sir_Real | wattsra, probably will work | 09:30 |
| wattsra | yeah - I think I should be fine. just wondering if there is anything drastic that I should consider purging and reinstalling? | 09:30 |
| Sir_Real | if it ain't broke don't fix it | 09:31 |
| Sir_Real | I upgraded from 19.10 today and everything seems to work | 09:31 |
| wattsra | :-) | 09:32 |
| Ben64 | well it's not released yet still | 09:33 |
| Sir_Real | release candidate released today/yesterday, pretty much a done deal | 09:38 |
| Ben64 | it's not over until end of day on the 23rd | 09:41 |
| oerheks | Ben64 +1 | 09:43 |
| joeatt | hi | 10:31 |
| joeatt | i always had an issue when in non graphic mode. is there someone capable to solve the clipboard stuff when in terminal pure? | 10:36 |
| oerheks | joeatt, please explain what you are trying to do, and what ubuntuv ersion | 10:45 |
| joeatt | oerheks: crtl c + ctrl v in pure terminal. actuallly is debian but works the same way | 10:47 |
| oerheks | to paste in terminal, ctrl + SHIFT + v.. | 10:48 |
| oerheks | and you better join #debian, thanks | 10:48 |
| joeatt | oerheks: I suppose must have gpm installed aint? | 10:50 |
| oerheks | debian? | 10:50 |
| joeatt | oerheks: ok got it | 10:51 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:11 |
| luna_ | hey | 11:11 |
| MJCD | What is the `ubuntu` user/home folder for? | 11:15 |
| MJCD | apache2 install might have made it | 11:17 |
| MJCD | just curious | 11:17 |
| ghost2911 | Hi. on dual boot (win/ubuntu) there is a way to setup grub in way that every boot it chooses either windows or ubuntu. ideally once windows, next time it boots ubuntu. | 11:28 |
| MJCD | ghost2911, err, no but you can make it always show a menu for x seconds | 11:29 |
| MJCD | with a default | 11:29 |
| ghost2911 | it's for remote access, I don't see the boot screen | 11:30 |
| JimBuntu | MJCD: The 'ubuntu' user is a default user for some installations. This may also depend on exactly what version of Ubuntu and if it is from normal install files provided by Canonical for bare metal or for cloud. For example, I have apache installed on multiple bare metal machines and have no such user. | 11:30 |
| ghost2911 | it's like workaround | 11:30 |
| MJCD | JimBuntu, mmm, interesting | 11:31 |
| MJCD | that only raises more questions lol | 11:31 |
| JimBuntu | ghost2911: You could possibly set up scripts in both environment that change/update grub to boot to the other OS by default. I do not have step by step directions for this. | 11:31 |
| oerheks | !grub | 11:33 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 11:33 |
| oerheks | see the manual, howto set windows primairy | 11:33 |
| JimBuntu | oerheks: Are you aware if grub has a built-in option for default boot rotation? | 11:34 |
| oerheks | ? | 11:34 |
| oerheks | no, such weird option does not exist. | 11:36 |
| ghost2911 | ) exactly I need this boot rotation | 11:36 |
| oerheks | There is no documention for doing this. in 12 years, you are the 1st person to ask this | 11:38 |
| JimBuntu | ghost2911: You can use the grub documents to see how to do this in Linux... automatically reconfigure the boot option to value 2, for example. So, what was 2 becomes #1 and what was 1 becomes number 2. Then you'll need to figure out how to perform the same changes from within a booted Windows environment. | 11:39 |
| ghost2911 | I was thinking maybe grub customizer or something | 11:39 |
| JimBuntu | ghost2911: About the only other help I can offer is that you don't really have to change the placement values of which one is on top, you can detail any option to be the default AND be careful that your solution considers kernel updates that could throw this system off. Good luck! | 11:43 |
| ghost2911 | thanks! | 11:44 |
| Mibix | ugh i still cant figure out this nullmailer thing | 12:42 |
| Mibix | it sends the emails twice | 12:42 |
| Mibix | then like 15 minutes later it sends Your message wasn't delivered to root@mibix-module.mibix-module because the domain mibix-module.mibix-module couldn't be found. | 12:43 |
| Mibix | oh wait its sending all error messages to the wrong address root@hostname.hostname for some reason | 12:53 |
| TheD3m0nPriest | Hi guys, does anyone know where I can get support for Ubuntu 20.04 beta? | 12:59 |
| oerheks | TheD3m0nPriest, join #ubuntu+1 | 12:59 |
| TheD3m0nPriest | Thanks oerheks | 12:59 |
| oerheks | :-) | 12:59 |
| Mibix | ,asdf;alsdfj;las | 13:08 |
| Mibix | why cant i change the default address it sends root messages to | 13:09 |
| Mibix | i added root: myemail@gmail.com to /etc/aliases | 13:10 |
| Mibix | nothing seems to have changed | 13:10 |
| FixPleaseTo | hello room :] | 13:16 |
| Mibix | hi | 13:18 |
| TheD3m0nPriest | hiya | 13:20 |
| FixPleaseTo | I've a question: in general.... is there any reason for the kernel source package to make anything other than a ready-to-build files tree? i.e. are there intermediate steps? | 13:22 |
| * FixPleaseTo doesn't know how to use automake | 13:23 | |
| Sven_vB | FixPleaseTo, even if it doesn't now, future versions might. if you need just the source, verbatim, you can always clone it from git. | 13:26 |
| FixPleaseTo | Sven_vB, that's a good answer. much thx | 13:29 |
| clarkk | I'm on Ubuntu 18.04, using a Dell laptop that has a Quadro M2000M video chipset. When I connect an HDMI television, the desktop is displayed perfectly. If I leave the laptop switched on and try it again some time later (I don't know how long, a day, or days maybe), the sound still comes from the TV but the TV screen remains black. I need to reboot the laptop to make it work correctly again. What can I do to either fix the problem entirely, or refre | 13:37 |
| clarkk | sh the TV display so it shows the desktop instead of a black screen? | 13:37 |
| tatertots | have you tried toggling the display on/off? | 13:38 |
| BADDOGGY | Hello | 13:38 |
| clarkk | tatertots, How do I do that? | 13:38 |
| tatertots | clarkk: there are a couple different methods ...one..via the FN/function key combination ...two..the display settings or nvidia-settings (if using proprietary NVIDIA driver) | 13:39 |
| clarkk | tatertots, I can't see that option in the display settings. Could you tell me exactly where it is? | 13:40 |
| tatertots | clarkk: open terminal | 13:40 |
| tatertots | clarkk: in terminal> nvidia-settings | 13:41 |
| oerheks | does your laptop have FN key internal/external/both screens? | 13:41 |
| oerheks | toggle that? | 13:41 |
| tatertots | clarkk: what happens when you enter that command? | 13:41 |
| clarkk | oerheks, tatertots - I've never realised that FN key was even there. That's useful. Yes, I can disable the external display and reenable it that way. THank you... | 13:42 |
| clarkk | tatertots, one moment on the terminal commant | 13:42 |
| clarkk | command | 13:42 |
| BatsAreDelicious | guys how can i stop /var/log from growing too large? | 13:43 |
| clarkk | tatertots, nvidia-settings exists on my system, and I've gone into it quite a few times. What do you need from it? | 13:43 |
| BatsAreDelicious | can i set a max size on it, where it deletes first-in data after a certain size? | 13:44 |
| lotuspsychje | BatsAreDelicious: delete logs, start over? | 13:44 |
| BatsAreDelicious | lotuspsychje: automatically i mean | 13:44 |
| tatertots | clarkk: don't need anything..a display can be disabled/enabled from there also | 13:44 |
| tatertots | clarkk: multiple ways to accomplish the same task exist | 13:44 |
| Mibix | ok so i gave up on nullmailer and went back to postfix | 13:46 |
| Mibix | its sending my mdadm test messages fine but i am no longer getting root messages when i do echo test | mail -s "test message" root it does nothing | 13:46 |
| FrankyGov | heya | 13:46 |
| clarkk | tatertots, I can't find how to disable it from that application. See screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/14fts8lfs7s8d51/Selection_311.png?dl=0 | 13:47 |
| clarkk | I'd actually tried to fix the problem using it before, but to no avail | 13:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | Mibix: you might find better help in the #ubuntu-server channel | 13:48 |
| FrankyGov | I wanted to use the XFCE terminal as alternative to Putty | 13:48 |
| FrankyGov | I did install it using: sudo apt-get install xfce4 | 13:48 |
| oerheks | Putty is an SSH client, not a terminal? | 13:49 |
| tatertots | clarkk: from the text about "PRIME" displays..on your speicific system you cannot control displays...so this is N/A .. | 13:51 |
| tatertots | clarkk: you have to use FN key to control display | 13:52 |
| BatsAreDelicious | guys why df telling me i have 100% used on /? | 13:55 |
| lotuspsychje | !info bleachbit | BatsAreDelicious | 13:56 |
| ubottu | BatsAreDelicious: bleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-3 (eoan), package size 366 kB, installed size 2139 kB | 13:56 |
| FrankyGov | oerheks, I think that I had to install only this package: xfce4-terminal | 13:56 |
| BatsAreDelicious | lotuspsychje: lol -> "E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/." | 13:57 |
| BatsAreDelicious | i just deleted 5GB of log files, and it's still telling me this | 13:57 |
| BatsAreDelicious | wtf | 13:57 |
| lotuspsychje | BatsAreDelicious: try sudo apt autoremove | 13:57 |
| BatsAreDelicious | lotuspsychje: lol did nothing, 0 removed | 13:59 |
| lotuspsychje | BatsAreDelicious: pastebin df -h plz | 13:59 |
| BatsAreDelicious | lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hSD3HrkCyh/ | 14:00 |
| BatsAreDelicious | ah, i think it's docker then | 14:00 |
| BatsAreDelicious | but i'm not sure how | 14:01 |
| BatsAreDelicious | lotuspsychje: thanks for helping me find that | 14:02 |
| nacc | BatsAreDelicious: no, those are overlays which are always full | 14:02 |
| nacc | BatsAreDelicious: you need to look at what is using space in / itself (ncdu, du -h --max-depth=1 /, etc) | 14:03 |
| clarkk | tatertots, thank you for your help. And you. oerheks | 14:04 |
| oerheks | clarkk, have fun! | 14:04 |
| BatsAreDelicious | nacc: i'm not sure what to do, I ran ncdu /, and it tells me my system is only about 4GB out of 12GB full | 14:09 |
| BatsAreDelicious | (i delete system.log and daemon.log, and they were about 5GB in total) | 14:09 |
| BatsAreDelicious | *deleted | 14:09 |
| nacc | BatsAreDelicious: did you run `sync` after this? | 14:09 |
| BatsAreDelicious | nacc: so df -h it telling me that /dev/vda1 is 100% full, and ncdu is telling me / is only ~30% full | 14:10 |
| BatsAreDelicious | nacc: er no, what does that do? | 14:10 |
| nacc | BatsAreDelicious: actually ensures your changes have been written back to disk. | 14:11 |
| BatsAreDelicious | just tried it, still getting /dev/vda1: 100% | 14:11 |
| iconoclasthero | I'm not sure were to ask this, but is there some way to change the mouse cursor behavior when moving from one screen to another? presently, if there isn't monitor space to the left or right of where i'm moving, the cursor stops. | 14:11 |
| iconoclasthero | like there's some kind of invisible force field at that spot of the monitor so i have to move it to be in line with the monitor next to it before i can move to the adjacent screen. | 14:12 |
| iconoclasthero | this is particularly problematic for my right-most screen which is in portrait mode. | 14:12 |
| iconoclasthero | https://i.imgur.com/W79qGwx.png | 14:14 |
| iconoclasthero | if you look at the above picture, you can see that on starting from the center monitor, there's an impassible boundary on the top left of the screen. starting from the right (portrait) screen, there's hard boundaries at the top and at the bottom moving left. | 14:16 |
| iconoclasthero | it doesn't make sense to me that the mouse cursor won't just go to the screen to the left or right and i'm hoping that there is somewhere i can get help with this. | 14:17 |
| FrankyGov | How can I find Putty's configurations files on Ubuntu? | 14:24 |
| kuanyui__ | I just upgrade from ubuntu 19.04 to 19.10, with built-in upgrade GUI. However... Wireless broken again. Module is rtl8821ce, and the driver was not installed by me, it was by the installer of ubuntu 19.04 automatically. | 14:26 |
| oerheks | ~/.config/putty perhaps? | 14:26 |
| oerheks | mind the . before putty = hidden, toggle ctrl + h to show | 14:26 |
| FrankyGov | oerheks, thanks a lot | 14:29 |
| tatertots | kuanyui__: upgrading is hit or miss in general. | 14:33 |
| kuanyui__ | Hardware info https://paste.opensuse.org/69371752 https://paste.opensuse.org/40151178 | 14:33 |
| tatertots | kuanyui__: clean installing the version you have a preference for is what will usually be suggested | 14:34 |
| oerheks | sudo ubuntu-drivers list # does it give a driver? | 14:34 |
| kuanyui__ | tarator: I know... The last time I upgrade in such method has been the age of ubuntu 7.04 -> 7.10... | 14:34 |
| kuanyui__ | oerheks: rtl8821ce-dkms | 14:36 |
| kuanyui__ | I noticed that the official repo of 19.10 has rtl8821ce-dkms so I installed it, but not works | 14:36 |
| oerheks | reboot after that? | 14:37 |
| kuanyui__ | Yes I've rebooted 2 times... | 14:37 |
| kuanyui__ | tarator: But handling the evil secure boot and damning Windows 10 dual booting when installing ubuntu is verily scared me.... So I use such way this time... | 14:39 |
| tatertots | jeremy31: | 14:42 |
| Malgorath | Anyone else having really slow repo reads right now like apt update takes about 40x longer to intiate, speds are good on downloads, just wondering if something was up | 14:44 |
| tatertots | Malgorath: is it trying to use IPv6 | 14:44 |
| tatertots | assuming you can spot that visually | 14:45 |
| tatertots | Malgorath: is it trying to use IPv6 ?...if you're unsure you can make a pastebin of it | 14:46 |
| Malgorath | tatertots, no I have IPv6 for external disabled | 14:49 |
| Malgorath | meaning I only pass a br0 to it with ipv4 allowed on it from host box to this VM, which normally has no issues with the apt update speeds, just was wondering if it was my ISP being weird or maybe they doing some big moves at HQ in ubuntu ;-) | 14:50 |
| tatertots | Malgorath: okay..maybe change to a different mirror then | 14:50 |
| Malgorath | tatertots, yeah, I would just found it very odd as I've never had a problem literally ever, that I can remember that was with the US based servers. | 14:51 |
| ElectroStrong | good mornin' - anyone have any thoughts on why wlan0 w/ Network Manager is not getting a DHCP client address even though it is setup in the gui to do so? If I manually do a dhclient -v wlan0 after connecting via wifi it grabs an IP address - where do I start looking? | 14:52 |
| Malgorath | Guess ya'll so dependable when somethings wrong, its like wow, Umm I'm stunned | 14:52 |
| ElectroStrong | (as it is using network manager - please note that interfaces is not populated with any additional information beyond loopback/lo) | 14:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | Malgorath: We're all volunteers here, we do not have knowledge of the workings of the repo servers | 14:55 |
| tatertots | ElectroStrong: does this occur with multiple SSID's or only one?..if you use your iphone as a hotspot, does this occur? | 14:56 |
| ElectroStrong | tatertots: tested only on wlan0 interface - all SSID's cause it - I have to manually run dhclient -v wlan0 to get a DHCP address lease | 14:57 |
| Malgorath | tatertots, seems to be limited to banjo.canical.com guess a hampster needs a treat :D | 14:57 |
| tatertots | Malgorath: lol | 14:57 |
| tatertots | ElectroStrong: has your system always had this issue or did it only start happening recently? | 14:58 |
| ElectroStrong | I'm not as familiar with the network-manager architecture - it looks like it manages the start of wpa_supplicant - does it depend on a specific dhcp software package as well? | 14:58 |
| ElectroStrong | tatertots: of course it worked before...until I upgraded to 18.04 so there is a recent impact - came from 16.04 to 18.04 | 14:59 |
| ElectroStrong | I purged network-manager* to remove all configuration files and re-installed as well - same result | 14:59 |
| ElectroStrong | I can hack it to rc.local to add dhclient -v wlan0, but I'd prefer to identify root cause if possible | 15:00 |
| tatertots | ElectroStrong: have you looked at the logs when this occurs?...if i had to guess off the top of my head i'd bet the logs show "timeout" | 15:01 |
| ElectroStrong | checking | 15:02 |
| ElectroStrong | tatertots: so - there's an error it looks like when trying to add the ip4 address | 15:05 |
| ElectroStrong | tatertots: exact error - paltform-linux: do-add-ip4-address[4: 10.0.1.235/24]: failure 22 (Invalid argument) 'managed') | 15:06 |
| ElectroStrong | iwconfig shows the interface as managed | 15:06 |
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| ElectroStrong | looks like it might be related to the kernel on this device - I'm reading that network-manager has issues with other armhf devices where the syscall that is used to do the ip address assignment fails :| | 15:12 |
| tatertots | ElectroStrong: ah..you're using a ARM based system | 15:18 |
| ElectroStrong | tatertots: yep - older A10 device that I'm trying to upgrade to current - just jumping through the upgrade stems from 12.04 to 20.04 as I don't want to mess with a clean image build so I know there are issues that will be caused by older config files | 15:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | ElectroStrong: that's a big jump (also, 20.04 isn't released yet and the upgrade path won't be available till the first point release) | 15:26 |
| Iarla | My daughter tells me that the login screen of her computer is now defaulted to the keyboard layout I use when I use her account (Dvorak). She changes it at the login screen each time but it reverts every time. Can I set the login screen and her account to always default to her preferred layout and not remember my choice from the menu? | 15:31 |
| ioria | Iarla, iirc, systemsettings -> region & language ,at top you should see 'Login Screen' | 15:35 |
| Iarla | ioria: thanks I'll give it a go :) | 15:36 |
| orbb | Disco Dingo (19.04) cant get "apt update", says "404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]". Is that only for me or anyone else bumped into that? | 15:36 |
| lordcirth | orbb, everyone on disco. disco is EOL and the repos have been archived. | 15:37 |
| orbb | <lordcirth>, damn i knew it. Is it possible temporary to switch to bionic theoretically, what do you think? | 15:38 |
| lordcirth | what do you temporarily? | 15:38 |
| oerheks | orbb, sure, upgrade | 15:38 |
| lordcirth | I'd just upgrade to 19.10 until 20.04 comes out | 15:39 |
| oerheks | that would give you another 5 moths now | 15:39 |
| oerheks | c/months | 15:39 |
| orbb | I afraid I could lost some of my data during upgrading to 19.10, but i think it's the best solutions right now | 15:39 |
| lordcirth | Always have backups | 15:40 |
| orbb | sure, thanks | 15:40 |
| Iarla | ioria: that's not quite it. Under Region & Language there are choices for Language, Formats and then a list of keyboard layouts. Hers is at the top of the list and there is no option to choose a default. Only whether they apply system wide or just to a window. | 15:41 |
| ioria | Iarla, have you clicked on 'Login Screen' ? | 15:43 |
| === jlacroix3 is now known as jlacroix | ||
| Iarla | ioria: I haven't yet. My system language is different. The battery has also died :) I will try this next, thank you. | 16:13 |
| rohdef | I'm trying to do a "snap restore chromium 1" but I just get "error: invalid argument for snapshot set id: expected a non-negative integer argument" Last I checked 1 is a non-negative integer, so what do I do? | 16:15 |
| lordcirth | rohdef, looking at the manpage, it looks like it's by users, not by snap | 16:18 |
| lordcirth | so, the error is that "chromium" is not an integer | 16:18 |
| rohdef | lordcirth: damn, but that contradicts "snap restore --help" which says: "snap restore [restore-OPTIONS] <snap> <id>" | 16:20 |
| lordcirth | Hmm, that is odd | 16:20 |
| rohdef | where/how did you find that man? | 16:21 |
| rohdef | found this, will try | 16:24 |
| rohdef | https://snapcraft.io/docs/snapshots | 16:24 |
| rohdef | lordcirth: worked, thanks for your answer :) | 16:26 |
| rohdef | ~lordcirth++ | 16:27 |
| lordcirth | rohdef, just 'man snap' | 16:27 |
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| airstoun | is there any way to put windows 7 without a disk and flash drive? | 16:44 |
| oerheks | airstoun, ask in the windows channels? | 16:44 |
| oerheks | they will laugh at you, windows 7 is EOL, dead | 16:45 |
| airstoun | Ubunt system is worth it. here I ask) | 16:45 |
| airstoun | Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2600 2GiB SO-DIMM DDR3 another will not work:-( | 16:46 |
| airstoun | netbook | 16:46 |
| housecat | oerheks: there is, amusingly enough, ##windows-legacy | 16:46 |
| housecat | airstoun: this is an Ubuntu tech support channel. Windows 7 isn't Ubuntu. Go ask a Windows 7 room, like the one I just mentioned. | 16:47 |
| oerheks | housecat, oh nice, maybe we should have #ubuntu-old-versions too | 16:47 |
| housecat | oerheks: stop that, it makes my head hurt | 16:47 |
| lordcirth | Only if it's muted and just has the topic "don't" | 16:47 |
| housecat | lol | 16:47 |
| housecat | people have seriously suggested it before, too. i can't even. | 16:48 |
| CQ | What does this mean from Locale: LANGUAGE=en_US:de ...I undertstand the en_US part, but what aboutthe DE (German) after the colon? | 17:06 |
| Malgorath | Anyone know what an easy way to look thru a system to see where all my big files storage usages are? I'm not in a GUI so just wondering if anyone tried this recently | 17:14 |
| Wulf | Malgorath: cd /; du -x | sort -n | tail -n 1000 | 17:15 |
| Malgorath | Wulf, thanks mate! | 17:23 |
| ph88 | how can i configure mariadb to run on another port ? | 17:32 |
| Wulf | ph88: in mysql it was in /etc/mysql/my.ini some setting. | 17:36 |
| hay207 | Hi guys, In synaptic package manager, lately i can't seem to scroll using mouse , using kde | 17:36 |
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| braindead_ | i dont have the python command but instead python3. would it be smart to install apt install python or better to create an alias for it? | 17:56 |
| braindead_ | i dont want to 'python3 bla.py' but prefer to 'python bla.py' | 17:56 |
| rfm | braindead_, I think the alias (in your .bashrc) is better as being a more localized change. | 18:05 |
| braindead_ | did it like that rfm. thanks | 18:10 |
| Xeteen | e ] [ olis_ ] [ StathisA ] | 18:26 |
| Xeteen | oops my bad | 18:26 |
| Xeteen | if I connect to smb:://server/path it works well, but when I try `sudo mount -t cifs //server/path ~/folder` I get `mount error(2): No such file or directory` | 18:26 |
| Xeteen | any idea? | 18:26 |
| ph88 | thx Wulf | 18:27 |
| lordcirth | Xeteen, anything with --verbose ? | 18:31 |
| Xeteen | lordcirth: I'll try but I think here's the issue | 18:31 |
| Xeteen | this server is remote, i.e. outside my | 18:31 |
| Xeteen | outside my LAN | 18:32 |
| Xeteen | if I try `sudo mount -t cifs smb://server/path ~/folder`, I get Mounting cifs URL not implemented yet | 18:32 |
| Xeteen | does it mean that cifs can only mount local samba shares? | 18:33 |
| pavlos | Xeteen: what are the perms on ~/folder, 755 ? | 18:33 |
| zuwuko | anyone used motion for recording rtsp streams? I'm having issue. | 18:34 |
| Xeteen | pavlos: 755 indeed | 18:36 |
| Xeteen | lordcirth: verbose says the same mount error(2): No such file or directory | 18:36 |
| Xeteen | and `Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)`, which I checked without finding anything useful | 18:37 |
| lordcirth | Hmm. Sorry, I haven't used cifs much | 18:37 |
| pavlos | Xeteen: I did ... cd ~; mkdir teen; sudo mount -t cifs //fx/repo ~/teen and looking at teen/, I see my remote repo | 18:37 |
| Xeteen | is //fx in your own LAN? | 18:38 |
| Xeteen | or is it via internet? | 18:38 |
| pavlos | Xeteen: within my subnet | 18:38 |
| Xeteen | well here I'm connecting to a university server | 18:39 |
| Xeteen | so I'm wondering if that's part of the issue | 18:39 |
| pavlos | Xeteen: maybe the samba server at the uni requires auth which the mount did not provide ... can you ping server? (I assume you're on the uni network) | 18:44 |
| Xeteen | pavlos: yep I can ping it and the error I'm getting is different than the one I get if, say, I put the wrong password | 18:46 |
| Xeteen | doesn't seem like an authentication issue | 18:46 |
| Xeteen | also, connected using nautilus and works greatly | 18:46 |
| Xeteen | was hoping for something I could work from command line but whatever | 18:47 |
| pavlos | Xeteen: you can pass options in the mount with the -o flag ... mount -t cifs -o username=teen,password=teen //server/path ~/here | 18:53 |
| Xeteen | tried passing domain= as well | 18:53 |
| Xeteen | shoot | 18:53 |
| Xeteen | anyway | 18:54 |
| abtm | quick question/need help | 18:56 |
| abtm | trying to install ubuntu server to an external USB hard drive (2tb) | 18:57 |
| abtm | install goes perfectly (installs grub in the MBR) but then it fails to boot | 18:57 |
| abtm | which tells me that the grub install is not occurring as it should.... | 18:58 |
| sarnold | are you sure it installed it to the right drive? I think the installer may write to the 'boot drive' on the system | 18:58 |
| abtm | no internal hd | 18:58 |
| sarnold | aha | 18:58 |
| abtm | so I have usb stick (iso) and the 2tb hd | 18:58 |
| abtm | I am able to install other linux images to the drive (proxmox as an example) | 18:59 |
| abtm | same setup | 18:59 |
| zuwuko | keyboard shortcuts to move windows to workspaces not working | 18:59 |
| abtm | but grub fails to boot for ubuntu server (working on 20.04 beta | 19:00 |
| zuwuko | ubuntu 16.04 | 19:00 |
| zuwuko | nevermind, my mistake. | 19:00 |
| abtm | I have tried partitioning with LVM, normal, and I tried installing grub to the mbr or to /dev/sda | 19:01 |
| pavlos | abtm: so the 2TB is sda and the stick is sdb ? | 19:02 |
| abtm | when I partition earlier yes..... | 19:03 |
| abtm | booting to repair an install now | 19:03 |
| abtm | so that I can see what it offers me | 19:03 |
| abtm | this past install I told it NOT to install grub into the MBR | 19:04 |
| abtm | it gave me a blank screen | 19:04 |
| abtm | its offering me sda1 and sda5 | 19:06 |
| abtm | or sdb1 and sdb2 (I would assume those are the stick) | 19:06 |
| pavlos | abtm: sda1 is / and sda5 is swap ? | 19:07 |
| abtm | for sda5 it detected separate /boot/efi partition but I am not using efi | 19:08 |
| ph88 | where should i put a custom my.cnf file for mysql ? i tried my own home directory as well as /root i'm just trying to change port but i can't get it to change port | 19:09 |
| joeatt | apt-get open doors | 19:13 |
| pavlos | ph88: place it as /etc/my.cnf and restart mysqld | 19:15 |
| abtm | tried erasing the entire drive outside of the install process re-doing the install now | 19:21 |
| abtm | it asked me to pick the drive and it labeled them sda is my external usb HD | 19:30 |
| abtm | same issue | 19:31 |
| abtm | error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' | 19:31 |
| abtm | have (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) | 19:32 |
| abtm | my prefix is (hd0,msdos5)/boot/grub | 19:33 |
| abtm | my root is hd0,msdos5 | 19:33 |
| abtm | and I am stuck at the grub rescue menu | 19:33 |
| abtm | help | 19:33 |
| abtm | next step is to see if its also an issue with 18.04 | 19:38 |
| sarnold | abtm: I don't know grub real well, but that 'msdos' stuff there is a bit confusing -- is that from a uefi install, the efi boot space? | 19:39 |
| pavlos | abtm: can you insmod normal then normal and boot? | 19:41 |
| abtm | error: attempted to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' | 19:41 |
| abtm | get that at boot and when I tried insmod notmal | 19:42 |
| abtm | burning 18.04 to USB stick to try to install that.... | 19:43 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: You probably have a buggy BIOS that doesn't handle large drive properly, at least when they're connected via USB. | 20:02 |
| ph88 | pavlos, /etc/my.cnf is already symlinked to another file | 20:02 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Any reads through your BIOS past a certain sector on your drive will fail. Your BIOS is basically telling grub that your 2TB drive is actually much smaller, possibly 1 GB, possibly 80 GB or something else. You can either use grub's native USB drivers to bypass your buggy BIOS, or just make a small /boot/ partition at the beginning of the drive, so that all of the files that will need to be read by | 20:04 |
| Jordan_U | grub through your BIOS are within your BIOS's limit. | 20:04 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: "ls -l" from the grub shell will tell you how many sectors your BIOS is claiming your drive is. | 20:04 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Though, you won't be able to use "ls -l" without loading additional modules, which will probably itself fail... | 20:05 |
| polynomos | is it possible to send email from a shell script consisting of and a message body and (one or more attachments"? for the moment I have ```mailx --subject "my subject" < "message body.txt" to@example.com```, but as soon as I add ```---attach="myfile.pdf" after "my subject", the message body isn't included anymore? | 20:11 |
| polynomos | this is on Ubuntu 18.04, so GNU mailutils 3.4? | 20:12 |
| pavlos | polynomos: mailx -s "subject" -a file.pdf to@example.com < path/to/body.txt | 20:18 |
| polynomos | thank you, but that doesn't give a different result | 20:25 |
| polynomos | same with piping the message from right at the start | 20:31 |
| adac | How do I enable autocomplete on ssh? | 20:37 |
| dirtycajunrice | Is there a way to split "files" inside of nsswitch.conf? or maybe similar? I want to have my hosts file first... then dns... then a "last resort" file if there is nothing else | 20:37 |
| adac | in my .ssh/config I have: "Host *.example.com" wildcard and I would like ssh to remember for example server1.example.com so next time it would autocomplete it | 20:39 |
| ph88 | how can i see under which user a service is running ? | 20:47 |
| Sir_Andrei | Hello | 21:01 |
| Sir_Andrei | People, I have a question that... well, maybe it is not for this channel. We are looking to host a mailing list with GNU Mailman, and we are looking for a good hosting provider. | 21:01 |
| Sir_Andrei | We are actually looking OVH. What do u suggest? | 21:01 |
| yates_home | why would i be able to do a "service xrdb status" but not a "systemctl status xrdb"? | 21:02 |
| yates_home | i thought service was a wrapper around systemctl | 21:03 |
| yates_home | Linux Lubuntu-22259 4.15.0-96-generic #97-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 1 03:25:46 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 21:03 |
| yates_home | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ssnHXrTXGB/ | 21:04 |
| yates_home | output for systemctl status xrdb: Unit xrdb.service could not be found. | 21:05 |
| yates_home | oh shit! | 21:06 |
| yates_home | typo!!! | 21:06 |
| yates_home | nm | 21:06 |
| * yates_home hangs his head | 21:06 | |
| === jlacroix0 is now known as jlacroix | ||
| Jordan_U | abtm: By the way, if your install of 18.04 worked and booted fine you might think that your problem is solved. It's not. Some update at some unknown time is going to happen to save a new kernel image to your drive and its contents will be on sectors outside the range that your BIOS can access. Everything will seem fine until you just suddenly can't boot. | 21:37 |
| gartt | When dual booting Ubuntu with Windows 10, after resizing the Windows partition and when installing Ubuntu, I'll select Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 - but after this, how will it know which partition I want Ubuntu to sit on? | 22:02 |
| jeremy31 | gartt: you might need to choose something else and put / on the empty space | 22:03 |
| gartt | (I should have said to dual boot. I have Win 10 installed with the main partition resized to allow space for Ubuntu to be installed) - but not sure how Ubuntu knows where it will be installed to | 22:03 |
| gartt | jeremy31: Thanks, but then why would "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 10" be an option? | 22:03 |
| skookum | it's an alternative to wiping the drive completely for Ubuntu to use | 22:04 |
| jeremy31 | gartt: because it is possible to install Ubuntu without resizing Win 10 | 22:05 |
| gartt | jeremy31: I don't quite follow - so Ubuntu will try to resize the Windows 10 main partition if I haven't already shrunk the partition using Windows prior to Ubuntu installation? | 22:05 |
| jeremy31 | gartt: I did it over a year ago with my new HP laptop after cloning the original hard drive. If you shrink the Win 10 and then choose install along side it might try to install on the already resized Win 10 partition | 22:07 |
| gartt | jeremy31: That would be pretty bad | 22:08 |
| gartt | So Ubuntu tries to resize Windows NTFS on its own if the NTFS partition hasn't bee resized previously? | 22:09 |
| gartt | Or does this Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 option mean that Ubuntu will try to guess what an open partition would be to use? | 22:10 |
| Jordan_U | gartt: Correct, Ubuntu's installer will resize Windows' partition if required and requested. | 22:11 |
| gartt | According to some walkthrough websites, it appears that Ubuntu should present a pop-up box showing what partition it intends to use | 22:11 |
| Jordan_U | gartt: I think that you'll find that the installer is pretty clear in what it's going to do. I recommend you start the installer and come back if you have questions as you go. | 22:11 |
| gartt | Jordan_U: Interesting, I didn't know Ubuntu could safely do it. The walkthrough installation sites ask people to do this in Windows just for safety then? | 22:12 |
| gartt | Jordan_U: Understood, I've installed Ubuntu before but never alongside another OS and just wanted to do my due diligence first | 22:13 |
| jeremy31 | gartt: How recent was the website that suggested resizing WIn 10? That may have been info from older versions | 22:13 |
| Jordan_U | gartt: Ubuntu's official documentation doesn't ask people to do it in Windows beforehand. I don't know what site you're referring to. Yes, Ubuntu's installer can very safely resize Windows' partition. (That said, you should always have good backups, especially when repartitioning / installing an OS. Hardware can fail, Windows' resizing can fail). | 22:13 |
| gartt | https://vitux.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-18-04-along-with-windows-10/ | 22:13 |
| gartt | 18.04, so not too bad | 22:14 |
| Jordan_U | jeremy31: gartt: Ubuntu has been able to safely resize Windows' partitions for more than a decade :) | 22:14 |
| jeremy31 | gartt: make backups of Windows just in case an error is made | 22:15 |
| gartt | jeremy31: Yeah, I made a backup of files/data, but not a clone, so I'd lose programs and Windows if I screw up | 22:16 |
| gartt | It's not super important (Windows), but important enough that I want to be really careful | 22:17 |
| Goop | I just got a webcam in the mail from "WEICHA". When I plug it into Windows, the sound/video is pretty good on VLC, but there's a delay. On Ubuntu, the video is very choppy, with delay. Any chance I could find out the driver needed, and install it? | 22:21 |
| Jordan_U | Goop: Please pastebin the output of "lsusb". Please also test the webcam in cheese to see if it behaves poorly there as well. | 22:23 |
| Goop | Jordan_U, what is "cheese"? Are you insulting me, or is that software? | 22:24 |
| kostkon | !info cheese | 22:24 |
| ubottu | cheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component main, is optional. Version 3.34.0-1 (eoan), package size 135 kB, installed size 446 kB | 22:24 |
| Jordan_U | Goop: It's the default webcam picture taking / recording app. It's a good test because it's simple and reliable. | 22:26 |
| Goop | Jordan_U, okay, so as the resolution increases, the framerate appears to decrease. The appears to be the problem. | 22:26 |
| Jordan_U | Goop: The output from "lsusb" would still be helpful. Is this supposed to be USB 1,2, or 3? Is it plugged into a USB 2.0 or 3.0 port? | 22:28 |
| Goop | Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XqKzcByNPv/ | 22:28 |
| abtm | Jordan_U I just got back | 22:30 |
| abtm | 18.04 was identical to 20.04 | 22:30 |
| bray90820 | Not sure if this is a good place to post this or not but... | 22:31 |
| bray90820 | I am using Pulse audio to record internal audio that is being played on ubuntu in Firefox but what I wanna do is record multiple things at a time what I would like to do is some how say like this Firefox tab has an output of channel 1 this other tab has an output of channel 2 etc | 22:31 |
| abtm | my next step is to re-install proxmox and then try the graphical installer in lubuntu | 22:31 |
| sarnold | bray90820: check out the #lau channel, "linux audio users" -- they may have advice | 22:38 |
| bray90820 | sarnold: Thanks | 22:38 |
| === codedmart_ is now known as codedmart | ||
| Xeteen | I'll repeat a question hoping that may get answered | 22:46 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Did you see and understand my explanation about you having a buggy BIOS? The solution is to create a small /boot/ partition near the beginning of your drive. | 22:46 |
| abtm | no I missed that | 22:46 |
| Xeteen | Need to connect to a remote (outside my LAN) shared folder. if I connect to smb:://server/path using nautilus it works well, but when I try `sudo mount -t cifs //server/path ~/folder` I get `mount error(2): No such file or directory` | 22:46 |
| abtm | proxmox just booted fine | 22:46 |
| gartt | If I select the "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 10" option, will it prompt me for how much space I want the linux partition to use? | 22:47 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: try sudo ls -l ~/folder` -- what are the results? | 22:47 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: You probably have a buggy BIOS that doesn't handle large drive properly, at least when they're connected via USB. | 22:47 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Any reads through your BIOS past a certain sector on your drive will fail. Your BIOS is basically telling grub that your 2TB drive is actually much smaller, possibly 1 GB, possibly 80 GB or something else. You can either use grub's native USB drivers to bypass your buggy BIOS, or just make a small /boot/ partition at the beginning of the drive, so that all of the files that will need to be read by | 22:47 |
| Jordan_U | grub through your BIOS are within your BIOS's limit. | 22:48 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: after trying to mount you say? or at any time? | 22:48 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: before the mount -- I'm curious if the error is actually literal, eg that the mountpoint just plain doesn't exist | 22:48 |
| Xeteen | it says total 0 right now | 22:48 |
| abtm | so.... | 22:48 |
| Xeteen | the folder exists | 22:48 |
| Jordan_U | gartt: My guess is that proxmox was installed as the first partition on the drive, and Ubuntu was not. (Mabe it was partition number 2, 3, or 4. The number doesn't really matter, it's how far into the drive the files that need to be read by the bootloader are). | 22:49 |
| Xeteen | and I can connect to the folder using nautilus | 22:49 |
| Xeteen | but for some reason mount cifs won't do the trick | 22:49 |
| abtm | minimum size partition required by grub? | 22:49 |
| Jordan_U | gartt: Sorry, that was meant for abtm. | 22:49 |
| gartt | Jordan_U: Meant for abtm? | 22:49 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: if it's a remote folder, should I append smb://server/path to mount ? | 22:50 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: My guess is that proxmox was installed as the first partition on the drive, and Ubuntu was not. (Mabe it was partition number 2, 3, or 4. The number doesn't really matter, it's how far into the drive the files that need to be read by the bootloader are). | 22:50 |
| abtm | ubuntu made a 50gb partition I believe | 22:50 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: probably not, the manpage I'm skimming now suggests the url format doesn't work well "Mounting using the CIFS URL specification is currently not supported" | 22:50 |
| abtm | next step is to try lubuntu graphical install see if the same issue is present | 22:51 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: You can get away with less, but I'd recommend 1 GiB. That way you shouldn't have to worry about it ever getting filled as you get new kernel updates. | 22:51 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: exactly, I tried both; with url I get that error, without url I get the no such file error | 22:52 |
| abtm | ok will try that after I try the default install on gui..... | 22:52 |
| abtm | and assuming gui works, the next thing I would want to try would be to uninstall the desktop and fall back to the server build | 22:53 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: If my theory is correct, and it probably is, then what installer / distribution you use is irrelevant. Like I said earlier, you may get lucky on your roll of the dice and all of the files that need to be read at boot will be within your BIOS's limit. That won't mean that everything is OK, that just means that you'll have the problem at some undetermined time in the future rather than now. | 22:53 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: is there any alternative tool to mount samba? | 22:54 |
| abtm | what do you mean the problem later? | 22:54 |
| abtm | since the OS sees the full disk.... | 22:54 |
| abtm | but yes I should double check if there is a bios update (this is for an old elitebook 8460p | 22:55 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: not really -- you can either use user-space connection tools like gnome or kde's io redirector thingy (probably what your nautilus test used) and in-kernel mounts, which the mount.cifs tool will use | 22:56 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: and if you want something other than gnome or kde apps to use it, that leaves you with the kernel mounts | 22:56 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: okay, do you know where the gnome io mounts the folder? | 22:56 |
| Xeteen | so I can access it from the command line | 22:56 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: I don't think it actually *does* mount it anywhere, it just provides APIs for gnome applications to use it | 22:57 |
| Xeteen | well, that's funny | 22:57 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Let's imagine that your BIOS can only access 1 GiB into your drive. If you make one brand new partition and do nothing but install grub and some kernel images, then grub will probably boot fine and be able to read those kernel images fine. That's because ext4 will tend to start putting file extents on the disk starting from the start of the partition and moving further into the partition as you | 22:57 |
| sarnold | you coultr try mounting it in nautilus and then check the output of the 'mount' command to see if I got that right or not | 22:57 |
| Jordan_U | write more files. So, if you had an installer that installed grub and your kernels first, then everything else, you would boot on your first boot and everything would seem fine. Once the kernel is loaded, it can see the whole contents of the drive and you're happy... | 22:57 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: what do you mean? | 22:58 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: do the mounting thing that works, and then run 'mount' from a terminal and see if the kernel was involved at all or not | 22:58 |
| Xeteen | ah okay | 22:58 |
| abtm | looks like my bios is near current (current is f.67 and I have f.61) | 23:00 |
| abtm | so I need to update | 23:00 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Now imaging that you have this working installation and you get a kernel updgrade. Now, the nearest free space to store new file data is 20 GiB into the drive. Suddenly, when you try to boot grub fails to read the new kernel. Luckily for you, the old kernel will still be readable so you'll be able to boot that still. Now imagine that you get a grub update and so grub's own files are written 20 GiB | 23:00 |
| Jordan_U | into the drive. From your perspective you had a perfectly working system and then it randomly broke. In reality, the problem was there all along, just waiting for the right circumstances to actully be noticeable. | 23:00 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: /run/user/1000/gvfs | 23:01 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Keep your (seeminly broken) Ubuntu install around. Upgrade your BIOS, and if the bug was fixed then Ubuntu will just start booting properly with no further work. | 23:01 |
| Xeteen | it's been mounted in there O_O | 23:01 |
| abtm | they are all ISOs | 23:02 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: ooh, are the files *actually* there? that'd be handy :) | 23:02 |
| abtm | so its a matter of buring whichever one I need to usb stick :) | 23:02 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: I wish I knew why this isn't working but I'm not finding great docs on what those error codes mean | 23:02 |
| abtm | burning | 23:02 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: actually be there? I mean I checked the folder using cd and ls and they're all there | 23:02 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: by "there" I mean remotely, like mounting thru ssh or things like that | 23:03 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: I was afraid that the gvfs directory might just be a communication channel for the gvfs tool, not something useufl :) | 23:03 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: oh no, I can copy files from there for example | 23:03 |
| sarnold | woot | 23:03 |
| Xeteen | so maybe I can uso gio to mount it from the command line then a symlink and voila | 23:04 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: oh I'm so silly... you could just right click on nautilus and then you get "open in terminal" | 23:07 |
| Xeteen | no need to figure out the moint point via mount :P | 23:07 |
| Xeteen | oh yeah it's working wonderfully, feels like a hack but works great | 23:08 |
| Xeteen | thanks sarnold appreciate it | 23:08 |
| Xeteen | and yeah me too I've been googling for hours but it seems I'm the only one that actually had such problem lol | 23:08 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: oh man that's cool :D | 23:09 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: I wish I knew why the usual tools weren't working, but it's nice there's a way to deal with it :) | 23:09 |
| Xeteen | and 99.99% of the cases were mounting a folder from other computer on the LAN, so maybe that's the difference | 23:09 |
| Xeteen | that or maybe mount and gnome io have different defaults when mounting a samba share, and maybe the defaults by mount clashes with the university server or something | 23:10 |
| sarnold | more likely is that there's just not a good way to report errors in these tools; there's only so many error codes, and they are sometimes abused ("no such file or directory" might mean "username not given" or "username and password weren't accepted" or "protocol mismatch" or who knows what else..) | 23:13 |
| Xeteen | fair enough | 23:14 |
| abtm | interesting, the proxmox partition was locked and could not be deleted. | 23:20 |
| abtm | wiping on windows and will try again | 23:20 |
| enav | test | 23:21 |
| enav | Hi some one knows how to create a rsync command to create folders(plural) at the destination ? | 23:21 |
| enav | like this rsync -a text.txt folder1/folder2/folder3/text.txt where folder1 and on does not exist | 23:22 |
| sarnold | enav: I don't think I've seen that before | 23:23 |
| enav | hmm | 23:24 |
| enav | im googling but cant find an answer | 23:24 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: okay I have something here | 23:26 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: when using --verbose I can see that the unc has part of the shared folder name attached to it | 23:26 |
| Xeteen | like unc and prefixpath are not well parsed | 23:26 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: hmm, does dmesg output have any details? | 23:27 |
| enav | some on at #rsync just told me is not possible | 23:27 |
| Xeteen | so //las-dfs-01.las.iastate.edu/lss/research/my-lab is interpreted as unc=\\las-dfs-01.las.iastate.edu\lss,prefixpath=research/my-lab see the diff sarnold ? | 23:27 |
| sarnold | enav: thanks for reporting back | 23:27 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: now if I check mount, grome io parses the same UNC correctly and so "lss" is part of the shared folder name | 23:28 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: heh, I get completely lost at the 'lss.prefixpath' bit :) the ancient samba I used 20 years ago didn't do that, i don't think | 23:28 |
| Xeteen | unc = server name, prefixpath = shared folder name | 23:28 |
| Jordan_U | abtm: Just to confirm, was Proxmox indeed installed on the first partition and Ubuntu on a later one? | 23:29 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: [ 2949.468583] No dialect specified on mount. Default has changed to a more secure dialect, SMB2.1 or later (e.g. SMB3), from CIFS (SMB1). To use the less secure SMB1 dialect to access old servers which do not support SMB3 (or SMB2.1) specify vers=1.0 on mount.[ 2949.662115] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -2 | 23:29 |
| Xeteen | whatever that means (shit I need to learn dmesg it looks cool) | 23:29 |
| adrian15 | I'm using U2004. I want to connect snap chromium to a localhost pulseaudio server and it does not seem to work either configuration I use. Any clue or more specific channel where to ask for help? | 23:29 |
| abtm | no.... | 23:30 |
| abtm | both installe on a later one | 23:30 |
| abtm | but the proxmox early partition was 50mb or so | 23:30 |
| sarnold | adrian15: perhaps #snapcraft ? | 23:30 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: yeah, there's loads of good information in dmesg. sometimes. ;) | 23:31 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: unfortunately little extra help at the moment: | 23:31 |
| sarnold | $ errno 2 | 23:31 |
| sarnold | ENOENT 2 No such file or directory | 23:31 |
| gartt | Jordan_U: I just read the official Ubuntu documentation for installation on amd64, but it's unclear if I select the "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 10" option, how much space will be used. I'm assuming it'll take up the whole partition if the partition has been previously created and the popup shows that Ubuntu intelligently guesses the blank partition to use? | 23:31 |
| adrian15 | sarnold: Ok, thank you. | 23:31 |
| Jordan_U | gartt: I assume that as well, but I don't know for sure. It should tell you how much space is being used for Ubuntu (before you need to commit to making any actual changes on disk), and you will hopefully see that that space matches the free space you left. | 23:33 |
| gartt | Jordan_U: Thanks | 23:34 |
| Jordan_U | gartt: You're welcome. | 23:34 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: well no, now I understand the problem | 23:35 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: hmm, does this mean you've got a mount command line that works? | 23:35 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: mount takes //server/path/to/folder and resolves //server/path (and gets the right ip) and then tries to open the folder /to/folder which doesn't exist, because the full path is /path/to/folder | 23:36 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: make sense? | 23:36 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: aha, so if you muont //server/junk/path/to/folder does it work? | 23:36 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: nope :( but at list verbose is trying the right path now | 23:37 |
| sarnold | rats :) | 23:38 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: is there any way I can take a line from `mount` and make it a command? | 23:41 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: not easily, no | 23:41 |
| Xeteen | okay so another day I'll just try and craft a command using gio or gvfs | 23:42 |
| Guma | I just did downloaded daily 20.04 few min ago. Trying to install it in VirtualBox (6.1.6 r137129) and at some point installer goes bland and stays there. Did try switching different graphics driver (no 3D). Is this known issue? What is the best place to report specific 20.04 issues? | 23:42 |
| Xeteen | sarnold: thanks for trying tho, learnt a few thigns anyway :) | 23:43 |
| sarnold | Xeteen: that's something, hehe | 23:43 |
| Jordan_U | Guma: #ubuntu+1 for 20.04. | 23:43 |
| sarnold | Guma: how much memory did you give it? | 23:43 |
| Bashing-om | !u+1 | Guma | 23:44 |
| Guma | sarnold: default 1024. | 23:44 |
| Guma | ok will switch to #ubuntu+1 | 23:44 |
| adrian15 | Xeteen: If you write the fstab line in a pastebin I can convert it for you | 23:45 |
| sarnold | Guma: try with two gigs, I think snapd uses a bit during install | 23:47 |
| sarnold | Guma: I think the security team moved to 2.5 gigs for our install tooling | 23:47 |
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