=== Perfec7 is now known as Brasil [00:22] adrian15: let me try that [00:26] adrian15: fstab doesnt have a line for this, here's the output from `mount` which I'm guessing is not of much help https://pastebin.com/0MwmpRe7 [00:28] Xeteen: Which line from there you want to be converted into a mount command? [00:28] the last one [00:36] adrian15: no worries, forget about it, it won't work [00:37] I mean I put the path in Nautilus' "+ Other Locations" and it works [00:37] I add the very same path in fstab and I get the same error: No such file or directory [00:37] so there's a problem with the path [00:37] fuck it === Brasil is now known as Perfec7 [00:47] Xeteen: If you add the path as a mount point it needs to be created and empty before using it. [00:47] Xeteen: Please watch your language in this channel. I haven't read all of the backlog yet, but you might want to be using gvfs-mount . [00:47] Jordan_U: oops sorry [00:48] adrian15: yup I created it and it's empty [01:00] Anyone run into the issue where it says (can't create directory, permission denied) but are in the root group as well as others? I was able to create directories without issue on the older Ubuntu 14.04 server but the issue arose after compressing/downloading the directory and then extracting it on the new server running Ubuntu 18.04.3 [01:01] apparmor can confine root processes; check dmesg for DENIED messages, or check audit logs if you have them enabled, /var/log/audit/audit.log [01:02] I do not appear to have an audit directory under log [01:04] "root group" - other than a group called root, not sure what that does for you [01:05] yeah, the group called "root" [01:05] I am able to change the ownership and attributes of the files/folders, just cannot create them [01:07] sudo touch x ... that work or touch: cannot touch 'x': Permission denied [01:09] I did sudo touch [directory] and it just returned to prompt [01:09] no error though [01:10] Zeloz: The output of "getfacl /path/to/directory" and the exact command you're using to make the directory, would be helpful to understanding. [01:10] I'm using Webmin for the creation of the directories under normal use [01:11] Zeloz: Can you reproduce the problem with a normal linux command, and pastebin that command and its output? [01:12] if I do mkdir test, it just says permission denied (using terminal) [01:13] sudo of course works, but I can't do that in Webmin [01:17] Zeloz: ah, so you've got a webmin running, and you're trying to do some tar unpacking or something similar through webmin, and you're getting errors? [01:18] correct, I did a tar extract from the other servers folder [01:18] Zeloz: are you getting errors that prevent unpacking at all? or are you getting errors that the unpacked tarball has different username or group and the unpacking process can't change the ownershipt o match? [01:18] there were no errors that I'm aware of [01:18] unprivileged users can't change file ownership [01:18] so if the tarball has files owned by multiple owners, and you want them to have multiple owners on the destination system, you'll need to unpack the tarball with root [01:18] I can change the ownership and permissions, just not add any folder/files in [01:19] who owns the directory that you're trying to write into? what are the permissions on that directory? [01:19] 775 [01:19] I made it recursive, that and the owner is my user now as well [01:20] and what uid is webmin running as? [01:20] my user [01:21] are all directories above the directory in question also readable and executable by the uid webmin is runnign as? [01:22] I was able to put a file/folder in one of the above directories without issue [01:23] I think it was the base directory that was copied [01:23] that I can add files/folders [01:23] but nothing below that === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:28] Zeloz: Please pastebin the output of "getfacl /path/to/directory/" and "ls -ld /path/to/directory/" [01:30] $ getfacl mods [01:31] drwxrwxr-x 498 username solder 20480 Apr 18 01:09 mods [01:36] Zeloz: And what is your username? [01:37] it's all lowercase, single word, it's part of my name so yeah [01:42] Zeloz: And you're in the group "solder"? [01:43] correct [01:43] Zeloz: Can you double check that by running "groups"? === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly [01:45] it shows as users root and sudo [01:45] 'groups' just reports what the current process has, which may be different than the process that's trying to do the unpacking [01:46] Zeloz: try the command "id" it should list all the groups the user belongs to [01:46] uid=1002(username) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),0(root),27(sudo) [01:49] Zeloz: username does not belong to solder group so username cannot write to mods (which is 775) [01:50] hmm, so is Webmin not showing correctly the group membership settings I have put in? [01:51] !webmin | Zeloz [01:51] Zeloz: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. [01:51] is there alternatives? Besides CLI [01:53] Zeloz: maybe you needed to logout/login from webmin ?? ... you can add group solder to username with, sudo usermod -a -G solder username [01:56] tried to add my username to that group and run id again to no avail [01:56] Zeloz: you'd need to pop a new term, then run id [01:57] I'll give that a shot [01:58] uid=1002(username) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),0(root),1(daemon),27(sudo) ,33(www-data),37(operator),1001(minecraft),1002(solder),1003(mc 1),1004(mc2),1005(ftp1) [01:58] Zeloz: you have it, 1002 [01:59] Zeloz: now can you write something into mods/ ? [01:59] looks like? Let me try non CLI [02:00] nope, let me reboot the system === umask078 is now known as umask077 === utlagi is now known as utlagi2 [02:25] Zeloz: if you're back, I installed webmin on a remote system and was able to log on and look at the dashboard. Since I came late to the thread, how can I test what you did with mods/ ? [02:26] hmm, not sure if it would be easy, I had an older system running webmin [02:26] that I compressed folders/files [02:26] and extracted them [02:32] if there wasn't 10gb or so of files, I'd have done it manually... lol [02:35] how do I set up a PHP development environment on Ubuntu? NetBeans doesn't work just says 404 file not found when I run it even though I installed Apache [02:40] nm i figured it out [04:37] Hi all. I am on an old Ubuntu 19.04 that I didn't realize was beyond End of Life. How can I dist upgrade? [04:41] econdudeawesome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_19.04 === jhona-aima1 is now known as jhona-aima [05:29] heya.. how do i setup a rule like ufw allow from [05:31] hi im having a problem in xubuntu and was hoping to find some help [05:31] ive been trying to fogure it out for about 4 hours but cant get anywhere [05:32] i have an xbox one wireless controller setup and working fine except that when i press the guide button it opens my browser and kicks me out of steam [05:39] Ugh, 20.04 Beta is unusable with multiple displays on AMD gpus. [05:54] does anybody know how to view contents of directory with root ownership and rwx------ permissions in ubuntu? [05:54] i tried "sudo cd" but it doesnt work [05:55] i'm trying to browse "/boot/efi" [05:55] sudo ls ? [05:55] stiltrumpelskin: sudo ls -a directory [05:55] sorry i meant ls oops lol [05:55] what do you mean "doesn't work"? [05:56] yes it does work [05:56] i had a brain fart lol [05:56] stiltrumpelskin: that happens :p [05:56] if you want to get really heavy handed you could probably do "sudo bash" [05:57] but be very careful [05:57] no i wont do that yet too scared now haha [05:59] hi all. i'm running Kubuntu 18.04 on a lenovo ideapad y700. i have an external monitor connected via HDMI. in system setting i disabled the laptop screen. on boot the panel is missing every time. it's there again when i reboot. but i don't like to boot twice all the time. [06:02] can you set xorg.conf [06:02] maybe that will help victor [06:03] theshagg are you still there [06:04] stiltrumpelskin yes I am [06:04] i realised there was a bit of miscommunication earlier [06:04] you asked about what didn't work [06:04] when i was trying to cd into root directory with rwx------ [06:04] you said "ls" works - which is what I expect to work :) [06:05] yes that's right [06:05] the cd wasnt working lol [06:05] right [06:05] I don't know if that should work or not [06:05] stiltrumpelskin: "set" xorg.config? [06:05] no xorg.conf [06:05] it is somewhere in /etc/xorg maybe [06:05] which package should I file a bug against for the kernel? [06:05] "kernel-common" ? [06:06] its in /usr/etc/x11 victor_ [06:07] sorry i meant /usr/etc/X11 viktor_ [06:07] i think you can configure xorg.conf then the automatic configuration that is done wont take place [06:09] stiltrumpelskin: there's no /usr/etc [06:10] i'll find where hold on a second [06:10] check in /etc/X11 [06:11] you might not have an xorg.conf file because it's usually not necessary [06:12] my directory shows xorg.conf.backup but no xorg.conf [06:12] can someone explain what NEEDED means next to a distro on a CVE? example is 16.04 here https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2020/CVE-2020-7247.html [06:15] i dont know if you saw my messages above viktor_, so i send this message with your name tag [06:18] How do I report a kernel bug? [06:19] nm, looks like it's at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs [06:19] what problem did you find theshagg? [06:20] So many issues with my AMD gpu [06:20] deadlocks when multiple displays plugged in [06:20] lockups when trying to shut down [06:20] my system has problems with usb [06:20] it improved a lot when i upgraded to version 5 kernel [06:21] i was using version 4 before [06:22] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/issues/900 [06:23] there is an issue in a kernel used in 20.04 beta, but is fixed in a later kernel release [06:24] at least its already fixed haha [06:24] was that the problem you were having [06:26] theshagg: to file a bug against the kernel, 'ubuntu-bug linux' [06:27] What does this mean from Locale: LANGUAGE=en_US:de ...I undertstand the en_US part, but what aboutthe DE (German) after the colon? [06:32] @ghostbuster: it looks like it means that they don't know which specific version so it's "needed" === _ikke_ is now known as ikke [06:59] heya [07:00] Dear all [07:00] Yesterday I installed XFCE4 and I think that caused issues with the Ubuntu's profile [07:01] Today once booted up the system, after the login, I saw a black screen and the system failed showing the login form again [07:01] I went on the command line through CTRL + ALT + F4. I removed XFCE4 and rebooted [07:02] Same problem. At that point I thought to create another user first. In fact, it's working [07:02] FrankyGov: all sorts of odd observations can be made when installing an additional DE...ideally you should fresh install a distro that uses your preferred DE by default [07:03] ...you live and learn [07:03] tatertots, I am a noob, in reality I was looking for XFCE4 terminal only.... [07:03] I have a question since I am trying to recover all my files from the other profile [07:04] I created this user account from command line using #bash adduser username etc [07:05] I wonder if I can change the permits for the other user > /home/previous-user [07:07] FrankyGov: what do you mean terminal only? [07:08] FrankyGov: 'curious' === Euph0ria is now known as abandoned === abandoned is now known as Abandoned [07:11] mkquist, This module: sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal === markus1189 is now known as predator117 === predator117 is now known as markus1189 [07:17] FrankyGov, there are two parts to the graphical system... the display manager, which is where you log in (lightdm for example) and the desktop itself (xfce4). Figure out what you have installed and the apt install --reinstall them, sometimest that helps [07:18] ...since you seem to have a problem sith the desktop itself, on the desktop manager at login, try to switch to a different desktop [07:18] CQ2, I did not need XFCE4. I assume that the problem was caused by XFCE4. Since that's the closest thing related to the desktop manager [07:19] I removed both components: XFCE4 and XFCE4-terminal. I got the same result. Right now I am in Ubuntu through another user [07:19] no, xfce4 is the desktop itself, that manages your windows when working. The esktop manager manages your login and starts your desktop [07:21] display manager* [07:21] when you are at the login prompt, see what desktop options you have that you can log in to [07:21] matsaman, yes, right, sorry [07:24] I noticed my new RAID 1 drives dont idle, they're always working now. I'ver never had RAID1 before, is this normal? [07:26] zuwuko: what is it you are trying to get out of using RAID? [07:26] RAID1 is a mirror, are you dealing with an initial copy? === Euph0ria is now known as EuphOria === EuphOria is now known as Euph0ria === jhona-aima1 is now known as jhona-aima [08:18] I am trying to perform a backup of my /home folder from a different user [08:18] I cannot copy those files since I do not have permission [08:18] If I have a user with sudo privileges [08:19] can I change the ownership of those files? [08:23] yeah raid mirror. I started from scratch. started blank, and have been copying files over. but when files are done, drive doesnt idle . it finally idled, thanks. [08:23] FrankyGov: you shouldn't change the ownership of the files you're backing up [08:24] tomreyn, I am trying to copy the folders to an external drives, but I cannot copy certain folders and files [08:25] FrankyGov: about reading the the files, the easiest approach is to backup as the root user. [08:27] FrankyGov: the better but more complicated way is to add a restricted backup user which is part of the group of the user whose files you'll backup. and to ensure that all files and directories of the user whose files you want to backup are both owned by this users' group, and are group readable. [08:29] FrankyGov: example: you have /home/franky and in there all files are owned by user franky and group franky. now you add a new system user frankybackup, use "adduser frankybackup franky" to add the new user to the "franky" group, so that it can read all files owned by the "franky" group, like those in /home/franky. [08:29] now frankybackup can read all the files that are group readable in /home/franky [08:31] the next difficult part is writing the files to the external drive, and doing so without loosing information on who owned them originally. [08:33] FrankyGov: the easiest way to get this (writing the files to the external storage) right is using tar for the backup, it will save the user and group names those files belonged to originally, as well as the permissions set on them. [08:33] tomreyn, I just added the user. [08:33] How can I try to copy recursively the folder? [08:33] I wanted to check if the process skips any folder or file [08:34] i'd tar czf /where/to/backup/to/backup.tar.gz /home/franky/ [08:36] if you just want to test the tar operation (to see read errors) but not actually store the files then you could do tar cf /dev/null /home/franky/ instead [08:43] Hi! Is there any way to make apt (or aptitude) produce machine-friendly JSON output? [08:49] tomreyn: could he sudo from the 2nd account as himself and have all the proper perms he needs? [08:49] just curious [08:58] adding to the previous question, does apt have some sort of a scriptable alternative client that accepts arguments via a CLI JSON API? [09:04] test [09:11] question, why does cn.archive.ubuntu.com point to us.archive.ubuntu.com when there are local mirrors? [09:11] makes it really tedius to install anything as the US mirrors are seriously slow inside China [09:12] I've got to go and manually change my sources to use a Chinese mirror such as tsinghua [09:24] siege00: i think the goal is / should be to run the backup as a separate user. if running it as himself then there's no need for sudo, i would think. [09:24] He said that he couldn't use his original account because his shell was corrupted. At least I thought that was the context === jhona-aima1 is now known as jhona-aima [09:39] hello! i'm running ubuntu 19.10 and unable to use chromium-browser as my 'default'? [09:40] sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser gives an error [09:40] no alternatives for x-www-browser [09:41] hmmm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1870640 [09:41] Launchpad bug 1870640 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Does not register as x-www-browser alternative" [Undecided,New] [09:42] on 19.10, chromium is a snap for a while now, this can be related. [09:43] yeah it's a snap i realise [09:43] pondering if i should reinstall and use 19.04 [09:43] that's EOL [09:43] yeah :/ [09:43] 18.04 is still supported [09:43] did you try --set ? [09:44] maybe add --verbose too [09:44] what does readlink -f /usr/bin/chromium-browser report? [09:44] same error [09:44] readlink is fine [09:45] please provide outputs [09:45] !paste [09:45] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:46] it's a shell script :) not a symlink to the snap [09:48] you could try pointing the aalternative path to the snap binary directly, though i think it shouldn't be necessary. [09:49] hello [09:51] have a problem on ubuntu,the keybord typy by it self randomly,i tried to change keyboard usb and ps/2 [09:51] in windows there isn't problem [09:53] https://imgur.com/a/HWpHI2i [09:53] it's there's no x-www-browser in the alterantives system i think [09:53] might need to create it [09:54] what can i ceck? [10:01] jezebel: there are more ways to configure the 'default' browser: https://wiki.debian.org/DefaultWebBrowser [10:02] i dont have a DE installed [10:02] the BROWSER environment variable, too, though this may only be taken into account as a fallback [10:02] i see [10:03] just a WM [10:04] hi [10:04] pigeta: see if there's a BIOS or (better yet, if it's a laptop) EC firmware update for your system. [10:05] it's got to be really old if it still has a PS/2 connector [10:05] Any updated regarding install ubuntu 20.04 server on zfs root? I cannot find the option in the installer yet.. [10:05] which installer did you use, AlexC ? [10:06] focal-fossa-server-amd64.iso [10:06] oh server, i don't think it's actually supported there, yet, but may be wrong. [10:06] at least it wasn't in 19.10 [10:06] wtf, it has experimental support on DESKTOP use [10:06] why?! [10:06] lel [10:06] whatever [10:07] yes computer is old [10:07] !ubuntu+1 | AlexC [10:07] AlexC: Focal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu+1. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [10:07] but why in windows no problem and here just some days problems [10:07] i gonna ask there [10:07] thx [10:08] having issues with networking need some assistance please [10:08] i have 2 bonds setup under netplan, one bond is working the other one went down a few days ago and has not worked since. [10:09] there's #ubuntu-server for what looks like a server question [10:10] https://termbin.com/2lgc2 .yaml file [10:10] also if i access from ssh session no problem,instead if i open a terminal from computer it's like the arrow down is pushed [10:11] theborger: the stuff below "bond1:" is indented incorrectly [10:13] tomreyn: fixed. still not showing an ip4 address [10:14] tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/EWi5wamz [10:16] tomreyn: got it figured out [10:16] theborger: and on top you have 4 character (or tab?) indenting. make sure you use an indenting mechanism supported for yaml files and to use the same everywhere. [10:16] theborger: but i think it was something else, wasn't it? === zenguy is now known as coffeeguy [10:20] tomreyn: it was, but something is not right. i think i need to remove the balance-rr stuff. i think that is what is causing my issues. [10:20] tomreyn: if i unplug bond1 from my switch both bonds go down [10:21] if i remove bond0 only it goes down [10:26] theborger: what does the switch support? [10:28] tomreyn: its a Juniper ex4200 [10:28] think i should just do the bonds on the switch? [10:28] in teh end what i need is 2 different bonded nics on 2 different networks [10:31] ex4200 can do better link aggregation thank just balance-rr [10:32] how do i setup LAG on netplan? [10:36] https://netplan.io/examples has an example. you'll need ifenslave installed. [10:36] maybe you're running into cloud-init related problems? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033847/configure-bonded-802-3ad-network-using-netplan-on-ubuntu-18-04 [10:36] personally i'd do 802.3ad with this switch [10:37] here's a working example: https://gist.github.com/PhilipSchmid/54e17f53c15e3bd2c922ec6ff9ee434f [10:41] you think its just not bring up both networks before it boots maybe? [10:43] Hiyas all [10:45] theborger: i don't know. if you suspect a firmware issue you can look into resetting CMOS / any persistent storage the BIOS/UEFI and NICs themselve use. (but that's not an OS issue then obviously.) if you can bring those NICs up without a bonding configuration then it's unlikely to be a firmware issue, though. [10:45] (i don't know whether you can) [11:02] hi , running (k)ubuntu on 8560p [11:02] but i can't see my webcam [11:03] https://pastebin.com/J78njFAX [11:03] lsusb output [11:05] is this webcam integrated into a laptop? use lspci [11:05] aah [11:05] ok, will check [11:06] https://pastebin.com/zCDvqq5F [11:06] i stil can't see it [11:07] indeed, me neither [11:08] is there a hardware switch for webcam, single button or FN key combo ? [11:09] no hw key [11:09] checking the FN keys [11:09] there is only hw kye for light [11:12] oerheks: thanks for help [11:12] it could be it's faulty, after all it's an old lapotop [11:13] i have an old centrino too, webcam unsupported, crystal eye.. [11:14] will check the bios settings [11:14] good idea, yes. mine does not have a setting there, maybe you are lucky [11:16] lsusb? [11:16] he needed lspci.. [11:18] hmmm is anyone else able to get chromium browser to launch external applications using xdg-open [11:18] oerheks: another opsticle, it was my sister's company laptop and BIOS is locked [11:19] anyways, since it's laptop for my mom now, we will call it no cam laptop [11:19] memphisto, oke, nothing we can do about that :-( [11:22] jezebel: no issues here [11:22] jezebel: out of the box working [11:28] snap connections chromium # shows what can be done to open [11:30] can i somehow check the power draw from a usb device? it's a powered hub and i need to see if it's actually also drawing power from the usb port [11:30] i mean if the hub is drawing power from the server [11:36] doha, dmidecode should be able to show [11:36] not sure what code..] [11:55] is it just me or is the touchpad scrolling direction reversed in 20.04? [11:55] skookum: join #ubuntu+1 please [11:55] 🆗 [11:56] when I update user groups [11:56] do I have to log out and back in for it to take effect? [11:56] or reboot? [11:56] etc [11:56] MJCD: logout and back in [11:57] Anyone else using Ubuntu on < 8GB of RAM? [11:58] whats your real question dagelf ? [11:58] EriC^^, thanks that worked <3 [11:58] have a good one! [11:59] dagelf: I am running ubuntu server on a raspberry pi with 1 GB of ram [12:00] and I'm pretty sure you can run Ubuntu MATE with the desktop environment on the rpi as well === jhona-aima1 is now known as jhona-aima === jhona-aima1 is now known as jhona-aima [13:09] what screen reader strategies do we have in xenial that could help my script read the playback position from VLC's status bar? (I already tried the HTTP and telnet interfaces, they're not reliable enough.) [13:10] also I've seen gtk-parasite and the GTK+ inspector. === Perfec7 is now known as Brasil === Brasil is now known as Perfec7 [13:21] Sven_vB, have you considered the VLC api itself? [13:22] BarnabasDK, nope, what do you mean with that? [13:22] https://wiki.videolan.org/MediaControlAPI/ [13:22] oh probably https://wiki.videolan.org/MediaControlAPI [13:23] dont know if it can do what you want [13:23] thanks! [13:23] oh. "The MediaControl API was removed from VLC in 2010." [13:24] well maybe you can achieve the same with mplayer or otherwise [13:24] I'll investigate python-vlc [13:27] seems like that's about integrating vlc in a program, not controlling a running instance. [13:27] does 18.04 have postgresql-10 as the latest? [13:31] i don't see 11 or 12 [13:36] !info postgresql-common bionic [13:37] postgresql-common (source: postgresql-common): PostgreSQL database-cluster manager. In component main, is optional. Version 190ubuntu0.1 (bionic), package size 153 kB, installed size 623 kB [13:37] 10+190ubuntu0.1 [13:46] hi everyone, my ubuntu installation stopped installing packages [13:46] # apt-get install pnmixer [13:46] Reading package lists... Done [13:46] Building dependency tree [13:46] Reading state information... Done [13:46] E: Unable to locate package pnmixer [13:46] just did not find that package [13:47] hexo, what version are you using [13:47] 19.10 [13:47] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pnmixer [13:48] i've used do-system-update or what is was [13:48] two days ago [13:48] now i cannot install anything [13:48] and look [13:48] he [13:48] if i try it with apt-file [13:48] it finds the package [13:48] what does /etc/apt/sources.iist say? [13:49] https://paste.centos.org/view/fcd2319d [13:49] * hexo grabs srcs [13:49] centos? this is an ubuntu channel? [13:49] so what [13:49] its paste [13:49] ok [13:50] hexo: tried updating in terminal? [13:51] yup [13:51] hexo: errors? [13:51] well its there in 18.04 maybe the pkg is no longer supported via official repos [13:52] in 18.04 + [13:53] https://paste.centos.org/view/336c2c4d [13:53] there are no errors [13:53] does the pkg exist in repo for 19.10? [13:53] https://paste.centos.org/view/a06a833f [13:54] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pnmixer [13:54] in the repos [13:54] pls tell me whats wrongs [13:54] i dont know how to check it [13:54] pkg search [13:54] so do it [13:54] my apt is broken [13:54] and look into those pastes [13:55] you'd get your answer already [13:55] all of your sources are hashed out in apt [13:55] is that on purpose [13:56] look at the bottom [13:56] :( [13:56] so your pkg is not in those [13:57] back to the original q is your pkg in the repos for 19.10 [13:57] how can i know? [13:57] from launchpad, i'd say, IT IS [13:57] from apt-file list [13:57] i'd say, IT IS [13:58] mayby here ? https://packages.ubuntu.com/ [13:58] launchpad does not equate official packages [13:58] did you try it yourself? [13:58] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pnmixer&searchon=names&suite=eoan§ion=all [13:59] as I said I am on 18.04 LTS and the package is here [13:59] but it could have been removed for 19.10 [13:59] is this some elaborate joke? [13:59] :( [13:59]