[07:18] <lubot> <tbs61> hello, at installation, if we have an os at drive with uefi already, while installation lubuntu with uefi, should we use same efi partition or should we create new efi partition?
[07:18] <lubot> <aptghetto> Use the same ESP
[07:19] <lubot> <aptghetto> The bootloaders are in different locations and don't overwrite the others
[07:21] <lubot> <tbs61> bootloaders? do u mean efi partition?
[07:21]  * diogenes_ always creates a separate one.
[07:22] <lubot> <aptghetto> ESP = EFI System Partition
[07:23] <lubot> <aptghetto> The bootloader of Ubuntu for example is on ESP/EFI/ubuntu and Windows is on ESP/EFI/Microsoft, so they are in separate locations
[08:07] <chraso>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER chraso mohtvonsnjdc
[08:07] <guiverc> chraso, I suggest changing your password asap; you broadcast that b/c of space before the /msg
[08:07] <apt-ghetto> chraso: Now we know your password
[08:07] <housecat> that's a verification code, not a password
[08:08] <housecat> it's not sensitive at all
[08:08] <housecat> chraso: try it again without the space at the front :)
[08:08] <guiverc> okay I didn't read the whole line, sorry
[08:12] <chraso> sorry
[08:12] <chraso> how do i change pass?
[08:13] <guiverc> chraso, I'd have asked freenode, but https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sendpass maybe helpful
[08:14] <chraso> done already
[08:14] <chraso> sorry
[08:15] <chraso> btw i'm hre to ask if any git gui is available for lubuntu
[08:16] <apt-ghetto> Isn't `git gui` part of git?
[08:18] <chraso> i'm returning to develop android rom after 10years, so need to clear the rust
[08:18] <chraso> also i think there are lot of changes to most of the things
[11:04] <lubot> <tbs61> @aptghetto [The bootloader of Ubuntu for example is on ESP/EFI/ubuntu and Windows is on ESP/ …], wouold ubuntu overwrite lubuntu? or opposite
[11:05] <lubot> <tbs61> and what about other ubuntu flovors
[11:08] <lubot> <aptghetto> All flavours use the same bootloader under ESP/EFI/ubuntu
[11:09] <lubot> <aptghetto> The configuration is saved under /boot/grub
[11:13] <lubot> <tbs61> i use uefi installation, for not cousing any problem to open lubuntu, what should i do while installing ubuntu or manjaro next to it?
[11:14] <lubot> <tbs61> maybe i should install them with legacy?
[11:17] <lubot> <tbs61> btw, i dont know if it ll happen when installing lts ubuntu but, u know daily builds, i tried to install daily build of ubuntu. after that i could open both ubuntu and lubuntu fine but manjaro was black screen
[11:17] <lubot> <tbs61> btw i tried all of them uefi at that time
[11:20] <lubot> <aptghetto> What problem do you expect? UEFI is designed to have several bootloaders installed at the same time.
[11:36] <lubot> <tbs61> @aptghetto [What problem do you expect? UEFI is designed to have several bootloaders install …], i espect black screen problem, sure i dont want to see that
[11:37] <lubot> <aptghetto> If you have installed Manjaro and Lubuntu in UEFI mode, you can change the bootloader in the UEFI settings. If Lubuntu does not start, then you can change to the bootloader of Manjaro
[11:39] <lubot> <tbs61> @aptghetto [If you have installed Manjaro and Lubuntu in UEFI mode, you can change the bootl …], thanks^^
[11:39] <lubot> <aptghetto> For testing, it is always a good idea to setup virtual machines
[11:55] <Pascal_B> Hello everybody, I hope you're well ! I'd like to know how activate by default num lock when a user has to type his password (X login) and how to open a session without to type (login+password) when only one account is configured please ? Thanks
[11:58] <guiverc> Pascal_B, to enable/disable autologin for Lubuntu 19.10, refer https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.9/sddm_configuration.html?highlight=autologin
[11:59] <guiverc> many machines enable to you set NUMLOCK via BIOS config (meaning it'll be set for any encryption key and/or greeter/sddm/login
[12:04] <Pascal_B> @guiverc : for NumLock, I confirm to you I don't have this option in my BIOS. For autologin, does it work with 18.04 please ?
[12:05] <lubot> <tbs61> what if i install legacy lubuntu to uefi installed windows?
[12:05] <apt-ghetto> @tbs61 You mean install Lubuntu in BIOS mode with a Windows in UEFI mode?
[12:06] <apt-ghetto> Pascal_B: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#NumLock_on_by_default
[12:06] <lubot> <tbs61> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> @tbs61 You mean install Lubuntu in BIOS mode with a Windows in UEFI …], i have uefi installed windows, what if i install lubuntu in legacy mode
[12:06] <apt-ghetto> Then you don't have a dualboot
[12:07] <guiverc> Pascal_B, no the manual refers to LXQt & 19.10.  The following should help with LXDE & 18.04 & auto-login - https://www.smarthomebeginner.com/enable-lubuntu-auto-login/  (I don't have a 18.04 box handy to confirm it currently sorry)
[12:08] <apt-ghetto> Depends on the firmware, if you can select both systems to boot, but normally, only the system which is installed in the same mode as the selected boot mode, is shown
[12:08] <lubot> <tbs61> i can see boot options with pressing esc key just after starting pc, cant i see lubuntu there?
[12:10] <apt-ghetto> @tbs61 It depends on your firmware, it might be shown, if the firmware is looking for UEFI and BIOS bootloaders. Normally, if you have UEFI enabled, why should the firmware check also for legacy bootloaders?
[12:12] <lubot> <tbs61> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> @tbs61 It depends on your firmware, it might be shown, if the firmw …], i use uefi, i installed blissos withouth uefi, i dont see it at boot options at start but when i press while starting pc i can see blissos at bootoptions
[12:13] <lubot> <tbs61> btw i installed bliss os for trying, it s android thing
[12:14] <apt-ghetto> Well, than you don't have to change the boot mode first, but you always have to press a key to boot a system installed in the other mode
[12:14] <apt-ghetto> And os-prober doesn't find the other systems
[14:55] <lubot> <mttcastelli> Hi Val6789, creator of the looker lush-lxqt-theme, are you here? Lush is based on Frost, but the panel search box backgroud turn from dark to white when you start digit... Which parameter in lxqt-panel.qss to change it? Thnk you
[14:55] <lubot> <mttcastelli> (Photo, 1280x420) https://i.imgur.com/79qCo7w.jpg
[15:39] <Pascal_B> sorry I received answers to my questions in the beginning of the afternoon but my IRC Client erased all content of discussions : do you how to recover them ? My IRC Client is IRC Vitamin. Thanks.
[15:40] <apt-ghetto> Pascal_B: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/04/19/%23lubuntu.html
[15:42] <Pascal_B> @apt-ghetto : thank you so much
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[16:47] <Guest9569> how update ffox?
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[17:03] <ratatosk> Hi
[17:03] <ratatosk> Anyone who might tell me if I just am going the wrong direction?
[17:05] <ratatosk> I installed ubuntu server on a Pi 4 (4GB) and then lxqt and openbox.  I get through sddm but then just get X11 without lxqt.
[17:05] <ratatosk> I didn't see anything in journalctl -b0 that seemed wrong.
[17:06] <wxl> did you log into the actual lxqt session?
[17:06] <wxl> or the openbox one?
[17:06] <ratatosk> I choose lxqt
[17:07] <ratatosk> I see a screen saver running.  Also, I can right click and get desktop preferences.  But that's it.
[17:07] <wxl> then i don't know what to tell you. pretty strange.
[17:07] <wxl> you might have better luck instalilng the lubuntu desktop
[17:08] <ratatosk> Yes, but when I did apt-cache search lubuntu-desktop I get nothing.  There is xubuntu and kubuntu desktops, so I figured perhaps lubuntu wasn't supported anymore.
[17:08] <wxl> !info lubuntu-desktop
[17:08] <ubottu> lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.94.1 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 16 kB (Only available for amd64; armhf; i386)
[17:09] <ratatosk> OK, I'm running 64-bit arm so perhaps it's not there for me.
[17:10] <ratatosk> i.e., Linux ubuntu 5.3.0-1022-raspi2 #24~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sat Mar 28 00:52:28 UTC 2020 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
[17:10] <wxl> probably
[17:10] <wxl> but to be sure
[17:11] <wxl> !info lubuntu-desktop focal
[17:11] <ubottu> lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 20.04.6 (focal), package size 3 kB, installed size 18 kB
[17:11] <ratatosk> Perhaps I should just go with xubuntu or kubuntu.  I want to run a qt app mainly, but didn't want the heavy kde on such a little box.
[17:11] <ratatosk> I guess I don't have !info on my machine.
[17:11] <ratatosk> You mean !info here in freenode?
[17:12] <ratatosk> !info lubuntu-desktop
[17:12] <ubottu> lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.94.1 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 16 kB (Only available for amd64; armhf; i386)
[17:12] <wxl> ^ there it is published in every single architecture in focal
[17:12] <wxl> !info lubuntu-desktop disco
[17:12] <ubottu> lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 19.04.1 (disco), package size 3 kB, installed size 17 kB
[17:12] <wxl> ^ and disco
[17:13] <wxl> if you're using bionic, that explains the problem
[17:13] <wxl> but lubuntu-desktop in bionic isn't lxqt, it's lxde
[17:13] <ratatosk> OK, have no idea what !info you mean.  Something from the old emacs world?
[17:13] <ratatosk> Yes, bionic.
[17:13] <wxl> yeah don't use that old crap :)
[17:14] <ratatosk> Ok, got it.  I keep forgetting lxde was what it was before.  And yes, I do like my old emacs!
[17:15] <ratatosk> I used bionic for the lts.  Maybe it's old crap too? :-)
[17:15] <ratatosk> Well, thanks for the help.  I've got some backing out to do now!
[17:15] <ratatosk> Stay well one and all!
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