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| CarlFK | anyone know of a wifi signal monitor that shows a graph? | 00:42 |
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| CarlFK | wavemon is looking pretty good | 00:47 |
| cheche | Good Night, I am trying to boot up ubuntu desktop live beta 20.04 using PXE + NFS as I did in the previous releases, for the last *10 years*, but this release I am unable to use it same config | 00:59 |
| cheche | https://pastebin.com/JfCs0Pjj that is the config for the tftp server | 00:59 |
| SourceSlayer | Hello | 00:59 |
| cheche | I could not find any questions about it. and I have test different machines, but not luck. | 01:02 |
| SourceSlayer | I've run "apt-get install libvulkan1 mesa-vulkan-drivers vulkan-util" on buntu 18.04 but I can't seem to run any Vulkan games anyway, what else must I do? | 01:04 |
| SourceSlayer | I feel like I'm missing something obvious | 01:04 |
| SourceSlayer | Never really used anything other than the defalt drivers so I'm lost | 01:08 |
| Perfec7 | ##bogustrivia | 01:09 |
| Perfec7 | sorry | 01:09 |
| SourceSlayer | I guess this is outside of regular usage hours | 01:14 |
| joebk | not very active here | 01:17 |
| SourceSlayer | I thought it would be pretty busy all things considered | 01:17 |
| joebk | this is my first time on irc in like 2 years. | 01:18 |
| joebk | typical urc channel 1157n users and no one talking. | 01:19 |
| SourceSlayer | I think this convo would be better moved to #Ubuntu-social so as to keep things how they want it | 01:20 |
| SourceSlayer | Well, I guess I should just go to bed and ask later | 01:22 |
| joebk | I'm lookinig for a channel to join. | 01:22 |
| blahboybaz | If I connect to my google drive locally (ie: map it to nautilus) does it store a local copy of any the data? Will the data take up any additional space locally so I know how to calculate drive space? | 01:28 |
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| blahboybaz | And, I see that gnome also wants permission to do stuff with email.. But what if I ONLY want drive? (I dont' want anything to do with gmail email locally - only drive locally) | 01:32 |
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| blahboybaz | oh, I see | 01:33 |
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| pillager86 | what's the correct way to set up php-xdebug with Netbeans in Ubuntu 19.10? | 01:50 |
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| joek_ | Anyone have a good dark theme colour set for HexChat? | 02:09 |
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| blahboybaz | Is there a way to make nautilus show only certain file type in a directory and all its sub directories? For example - show only audio file in the (default) "Music" directory and any subdirectories I create in it. Or, show only video file in the (default) "Videos" directory and any subdirectories I create in it. I'm not talking about performing a search I mean for it to always be that way simply by entering the directory. To | 02:18 |
| blahboybaz | only show that type - ever. | 02:18 |
| bn_work | hi, ubuntu 16.04 LTS on VPS VM, provider re-IP-ed the (K?)VM at my request and am noticing the routing tables are blank after ifdown/ifup-ing eth0 & restarting network(ing). Is there a way to re-init it w/o rebooting? | 02:27 |
| fronchetti | Hello everyone, I am a Python programmer, and my pip list is a mess (a lot of dependencies that I don't use anymore). I would like to know if it is safe do delete my pip packages, or if they can influence the operation of my Ubuntu system. | 02:39 |
| Conjecture_ | fronchetti, It's best to use virtualenv for stuff like that | 02:40 |
| fronchetti | I can not format this computer, so I need to make sure it is safe to delete the pip packages | 02:40 |
| fronchetti | I am going to use virtualenv for now on, but I already have installed packages on my system | 02:40 |
| Conjecture_ | Overtime, Ubuntu will overwrite them | 02:40 |
| fronchetti | and I want to know if it is safe to uninstall them | 02:41 |
| fronchetti | like, every package I have installed | 02:41 |
| Conjecture_ | virtualenv directory_of_project; cd directory_of_project; source bin/activate; pip install stuff; deactivate # when done | 02:41 |
| Conjecture_ | Well, it's very risky to do that | 02:41 |
| Conjecture_ | You don't know what you overwrote | 02:41 |
| fronchetti | so Ubuntu uses pip dependencies? | 02:41 |
| bn_work | any ideas? | 02:44 |
| ghostnik11 | hey i want to leave a separate boot partition on my regular internal storage which is a 32gb emmc that soldered on to the mother board. currently i have ubuntu on my 32gb and it has about 6gb of space free. i want to maybe partition 1gb of that free space and put as a place that i can leave a /boot for other linux OS that i want to run from an micro-sd card. the bios doesn't see micro-sd card as a option to boot. i just | 02:44 |
| ghostnik11 | want to know if 1gb is enough space? | 02:44 |
| ghostnik11 | all at the same time, i don't want to lose my ubuntu partition? i have a link from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromSD that details it, just want to be safe before and get some opinions on the matter | 02:46 |
| thongpv87 | How can I get flicker free boot work on ubuntu 20.04 (beta). I'm having 1st problem as described in `https://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/20632.html`, got a black screen for a couple of seconds during boot. I follow the guide but nothing got fixed. I'm using Thinkpad X1 Extreme gen 2, boot in EFI mode, and using gpu on-demand mode. | 02:48 |
| Conjecture_ | Well, fronchetti left before I could say to install over them.... | 03:00 |
| cheche | ok. just found a solution to my problem Pxe and nfs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1848018 | 03:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1848018 in casper (Ubuntu) "[solved] PXE boot/nfsboot broken; Eoan Ermine; 19.10" [Undecided,Invalid] | 03:05 |
| r2b2nz | thongpv87: Not sure but given that laptop appears to have a NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 wouldn't 1.1 of that page apply? | 03:07 |
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| ozus | Hi all, is there smaller install media for the 18.04 cd ? The default iso image is 2 GB in size. Which require dvd, wondering if there's cdr size.... | 03:45 |
| oOBadDreamOo | does anyone in here have any experience with xbox one controllers on ubuntu? | 03:46 |
| r2b2nz | @ozu | 03:52 |
| r2b2nz | @ozus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD perhaps? | 03:52 |
| Goop | Is there a channel that knows a lot about audio with like pavu/alsa? | 03:54 |
| r2b2nz | Goop: there's #ubuntustudio if you are using that | 04:01 |
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| Eickmeyer | r2b2nz, Goop: alsa and pave are parts of Ubuntu. Don’t send people that way just because it’s audio. | 04:04 |
| Eickmeyer | #lau (Linux Audio Users) would be more apt. | 04:04 |
| r2b2nz | Sorry @Eickmeyer | 04:06 |
| Goop | I am trying to create a virtual microphone, which takes desktop application sound, along with a real microphone sound, and output them into the virtual microphone. | 04:07 |
| alloy | hey all | 04:12 |
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| alloy | you know that version of vi that comes with some versions of ubuntu that doesn't have arrow key bindings? Anyone know what it's called? | 04:12 |
| alloy | is it actual vi and then one installs vim in order to stay sane? | 04:13 |
| siege00 | I think you'll have to manually unbind the arrow keys unless there's a plugin for that. | 04:14 |
| Bashing-om | Eickmeyer: Anything other than studio that uses the low-latency kernel on a fresh install ? | 04:21 |
| Eickmeyer | Bashing-om: Not to my knowledge, but I’ve heard of it being used with servers. | 04:25 |
| Bashing-om | Eickmeyer: just checking my knowledge base - working one in U+1 that runs the low-latency kernel and OP insist is not a studio install ( nvidia driver issue). | 04:28 |
| nshireTimeout | does ALSA on 18.04 have a way of temporarily muting sound from a program? | 04:37 |
| zorab | hello | 04:37 |
| spronkey | hey all - i'm having a reaaaally weird problem with ... audio? system freezing? after installing a (known working) GTX 660 gpu into my (previously stable) system | 04:40 |
| emma | Im trying to run ubuntu 19.04 but when I run sudo apt update it says this: | 04:41 |
| emma | Err:6 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu disco-security Release 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] | 04:41 |
| spronkey | so my system seems to freeze, sometimes cursor moves sometimes it doesn't, sometimes responding to ssh, sometimes that eventually stops working. I haven't found a reliable way to reproduce it, but i can reproduce something odd, which is when i try to play the "Bark" sound effect from Sound settings (specifically Bark), my TV resyncs its HDMI port (signal bar appears), and audio doesn't play for a few seconds | 04:41 |
| Bashing-om | !19.04 | emma | 04:41 |
| ubottu | emma: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) was the 30th release of Ubuntu, support ended January 2020. see !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-January/005263.html | 04:41 |
| spronkey | where on earth do I start | 04:42 |
| emma | Bashing-om: is there a way to move it to the next release without having to install it again? | 04:42 |
| Bashing-om | !eol | emma | 04:42 |
| ubottu | emma: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 04:42 |
| Bashing-om | emma: ^^ see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades . | 04:43 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: does ' sudo lshw -C display ' see the added card and a driver ? | 04:45 |
| Onceuponaban | Hello. I have a computer that I wish to use to host a Nextcloud instance. This however requires an OS to install it on, and I chose Ubuntu for that, specifically the LTS server variant. The computer has a 128GB SSD and a 2TB HDD. I'm assuming the partition layout would be some form of "OS on the SSD, data on the HDD" but is there something specific | 04:46 |
| Onceuponaban | I should do regarding partitioning? | 04:46 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om I can see my internal card, plus also my nvidia gpu (am using the HDMI output from thaT). HDA Nvidia | 04:46 |
| spronkey | oo maybe it has something to do with sample rate... | 04:47 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om: this is the pulseaudio debug logging when I try to play this "Bark" sound: https://gist.github.com/spronkey/c60229deac5f6f28a6ca3c291a5760e8 | 04:48 |
| Onceuponaban | Or should I just go "ESP and / on SSD, /home on HDD" and call it a day? | 04:48 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: Pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ; cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' . See what the system thinks. | 04:49 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om https://gist.github.com/spronkey/c60229deac5f6f28a6ca3c291a5760e8#file-gistfile1-txt | 04:50 |
| spronkey | These components are quite old (3470s + GTX 660), but the 3470s system was rock sold with igpu, and the 660 was rock solid in my other machine. Power supply is a decent unit and should have plenty of power, but the freezing doesn't appear to have anything to do with GPU load | 04:53 |
| spronkey | But I do notice that my TV seems to think there's a lot of resyncing going on of the signal, as it keeps displaying the input signal bar every now and then | 04:53 |
| spronkey | usually related to sound | 04:53 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: "rc" == removed but config files remain - per ups there is no driver loaded. Secure boot a factor on your system ? | 04:53 |
| megacoolvibes | root@ip-172-31-33-21:~# apt install php7.2-cli | 04:54 |
| megacoolvibes | with: | 04:54 |
| megacoolvibes | Why? | 04:54 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om hmm, i doubt it, it's a desktop from 2012 | 04:54 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om I've tried installing several nvidia drivers (some from the ubuntu software & updates -> additional drivers) + also downloading the bin drivers from nvidia.com and running their installer | 04:55 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: how about ' sudo apt remove --purge nvidia ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' where the system will choose what it thinks best to install. | 04:56 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om "nvidia is not installed". Only thing I can purge via apt is nvidia-opencl-icd-340 | 04:56 |
| spronkey | i'll try a drivers autoinstall | 04:57 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: OEM ! NO ! any result sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ? | 04:57 |
| spronkey | haha, bad idea to install drivers from nvidia.com? | 04:58 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: Nvidia says " Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package.". | 04:58 |
| spronkey | mm, I had tried the ubuntu recommended one earlier, but the freezing was still occurring so I tried the (newer) one from nvidia | 04:59 |
| spronkey | ^^ the find only finds my driver .run that I downloaded | 04:59 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: Nothing wrong with trying ( good backups !) - we clean things up and re-install wwhat the system picks - see what results. | 05:00 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: what results Code: ./Nvidiawhatever.run --uninstall (must be cd'd to the directory/location) example: sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38.run --uninstall . | 05:02 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om yeh, was just doing that. Claims that it has been modified by something else, but it's gone thorugh the uninstall process successfully and restored the previous xconf | 05:02 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: sudo only if the .run file is not in your /home path. | 05:03 |
| zorab | ubuntu18.04 can't output speak | 05:04 |
| zorab | why ? | 05:04 |
| zorab | hdmi | 05:04 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? we want to make sure it is removed with the --purge - else explicitly remove it . the install will re-create the file if needed. | 05:05 |
| spronkey | xorg.conf is gone, only .failsafe remains | 05:05 |
| megacoolvibes | How come my php is in /usr/lib/php, but impossible to be found in /usr/bin/php? | 05:06 |
| megacoolvibes | When I type whereis php, I get php: /usr/lib/php /etc/php /usr/share/php7.2-opcache /usr/share/php7.2-common /usr/share/php7.2-curl /usr/share/php7.2-mysql /usr/share/php7.2-gd /usr/share/php7.2-json /usr/share/php7.2-readline /usr/share/php7.2-mbstring /usr/share/php7.2-xml | 05:06 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: Good deal :) have you ran the autoinstall command ? | 05:06 |
| system | halo | 05:07 |
| system | halo | 05:07 |
| megacoolvibes | If I type root@ip-172-31-33-21:/# php --version | 05:07 |
| spronkey | Bashing-om not yet, re-ran dpkg -l: https://gist.github.com/spronkey/c60229deac5f6f28a6ca3c291a5760e8#file-dpkg | 05:07 |
| system | what is that? | 05:08 |
| spronkey | if I'm reading it correctly its showing a bunch of rc for the nvidia bin stuff, but also showing nouveau is back in command for now | 05:08 |
| spronkey | is that state ready to do the driver autoinstall or do I need to do more removing? :) | 05:08 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: IF you are fully updated now - ...autoinstall will take care of all. | 05:15 |
| viju | Is now that ubuntu is moving toward rolling kernel model, does that mean there'll be lots of unstable packages in LTS? | 05:15 |
| spronkey | doing an autoinstall now @Bashing-om. Figured out why my TV does weird things when I play "Bark" too, it's 48khz file when all the ohters are 44.1kHz, so sampling rate is changing and TV is blanking audio for a bit. Not sure whether that is at all related to my freezing issues though | 05:19 |
| spronkey | @Bashing-om hmm, dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package | 05:20 |
| spronkey | hmm, wondering whether it's having problems with my newer kernel | 05:23 |
| Bashing-om | spronkey: Well. the driver has to have the kernel headers installed - what shows ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' ? | 05:31 |
| Goop | How do you temporarily kill pulseaudio, and not have it restart? | 05:32 |
| mfilipe[m] | ubuntu always keep the docker packages updates in the same pace of the upstream? | 05:38 |
| Goop | mfilipe[m], that question may be better suited for #ubuntu-server | 05:38 |
| Goop | or #docker | 05:39 |
| mfilipe[m] | ok, thanks | 05:39 |
| Jordan_U | Goop: What is your end goal? pasuspender might be what you're looking for, but I hope you're not just working around a problem that can be solved more directly. | 05:43 |
| Rockwood | hi any active here? | 05:43 |
| Goop | Jordan_U, hey, I remember you from the other day! I don't remember which channel. | 05:44 |
| Goop | *let's all hide from Rockwood* | 05:44 |
| Rockwood | lol no plz | 05:44 |
| Rockwood | Goop, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G4t9xyBNT8/ i wanna sync time of UTC | 05:45 |
| system | hello | 05:47 |
| Goop | Jordan_U, yes. I was talking with a guy on #alsa, and he said I should try mixing desktop audio with microphone audio, and outputting it into a dummy microphone device. It probably could work with pulseaudio, but the guy from #alsa doesn't work with pulse, so that is what I was going with. | 05:48 |
| Goop | Rockwood, let me take a look real quick. | 05:48 |
| Rockwood | okay | 05:48 |
| Goop | Rockwood, synce time of UTC? You mean sync to a time server? Or change the system time to UTC-0:00? | 05:49 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: Do you dual boot with Windows? That's the only reason I can think of that your system would not already have the real time clock set to UTC. | 05:49 |
| Rockwood | i wanna use UTC time for my software | 05:49 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, i am using VM | 05:50 |
| Jordan_U | (OK, I guess there are also some fancy desktop cases that display the time from the RTC). | 05:50 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: I'm not sure what you mean by "use UTC time for my software". What time zone times dates are stored in is a decision up to the writer of the software. Maybe if you explain more about the bigger project / goal you're working on we will be able to help you better. | 05:51 |
| Rockwood | VM having ubuntu 19.10 | 05:51 |
| Rockwood | universal time zone | 05:52 |
| Rockwood | GMT | 05:52 |
| tengo | Rockwood, if you're using the desktop version of ubuntu 19.10 go to settings > details > date & time | 05:53 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: I'm curious then why timedatectl was ever configured not to use UTC for the (virtual) Real Time Clock. Did you make that change? There's a lot that doesn't make sense about what you're saying, and I really think that you explaining more about your goals / where this VM came from will help clear things up. | 05:53 |
| Rockwood | i am using CLI only so i can access terminal | 05:54 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: The default for Ubuntu (when not dual booting with Windows) is to have the RTC in UTC. | 05:54 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, actually yesterday i was trying make time time correct | 05:54 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, VM on Win 10 and in VM ubuntu 19.10 server version | 05:55 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: timedatectl gave you the command to run to get the the RTC back to UTC, and that is "sudo timedatectl set-local-rtc 0". I'm still not sure that won't still leave you with other problems. | 05:55 |
| Rockwood | okay | 05:56 |
| tengo | Rockwood, if your underlying hardware (bare metal) is using UTC your VM software might have a setting to set the VM time and host time to be the same. | 05:56 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, done | 05:56 |
| tengo | I'm assume you're using hyper-v. Check the settings for the VM in hyper-v is thats the case. | 05:57 |
| Rockwood | i am not sure what is hyper-v? | 05:57 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: A VM's RTC shouldn't drift (at least relative to the host RTC). What VM software are you using? Maybe it's setting the virtual RTC to local time, and is constantly "correcting" it when Ubuntu tries to "correct" it, and the two are trading off. | 05:57 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: I would expect any VM software to try to keep the virtual RTC in UTC as long as you've told it that your VM is running GNU/Linux. | 05:58 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rKKdDCXTZX/ now after run that command | 05:58 |
| Rockwood | Local time: Sun 2020-04-19 05:58:02 IST | 05:59 |
| Rockwood | Universal time: Sun 2020-04-19 00:28:02 UTC | 05:59 |
| Rockwood | isn't same | 05:59 |
| Rockwood | i think 0 is UTC | 06:00 |
| Rockwood | no timezone | 06:00 |
| Rockwood | why it taking another time | 06:00 |
| Ascavasaion | Hello there, could someone suggest a couple of cheapish USB sound cards for me... preferably with a line-in port. Thank you. | 06:00 |
| Rockwood | it should came as per timezone | 06:00 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: You really need to explain your whole project here. | 06:00 |
| Ascavasaion | That work in Ubuntu :-) | 06:01 |
| tengo | Rockwood, what timezone are you currently in? | 06:01 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, actually i am working on project which basically based timings | 06:01 |
| Rockwood | tengo,Time zone: Asia/Kolkata (IST, +0530) | 06:01 |
| Rockwood | UTC time should be came as per my time zone | 06:02 |
| tengo | rockwood, ok, so your in IST and you want the RTC time of the VM to reflect that too? | 06:03 |
| tengo | *UTC | 06:03 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: You can "sudo timedatectl set-timezone UTC" to set your local time to UTC, but if you're writing software you should just ask whatever date functions you're using to give you the date in UTC. Reconfiguring your whole OS's time zone is not the way to get UTC dates for one piece of software that you're writing. | 06:03 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, done | 06:04 |
| Rockwood | but now time isn't same as TZ time zone | 06:04 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p7YZqRhzQK/ | 06:05 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: I'm asking you one more time to explain your project more broadly. If you don't, I'm going to give up trying to help you. | 06:06 |
| tengo | Jordan_U, wouldn't having Rockwood enable the NTP service bring the times in line? | 06:06 |
| Rockwood | right now my machine time is 19-04-2020 11:36 | 06:06 |
| Jordan_U | tengo: I honestly don't know what problem Rockwood is actually having, and so I can't say what a solution would be. | 06:06 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, i am using PHP and mysql and its gaming project | 06:07 |
| Rockwood | and the problem is, in project i getting wrong timing when i am saving in DB | 06:08 |
| Rockwood | time should be time auto sync as per my server time zone | 06:09 |
| spronkey | oh no, bashing-om disappeared | 06:09 |
| tengo | Rockwood, it sounds like what Jordan_U was saying earlier, that your software needs to take its time from the "local time". Are you not able to tell you're software to use the local time? | 06:12 |
| Rockwood | ok | 06:12 |
| wingedrhino | Does the 20.04 Ubuntu come with NetworkManager support for WireGuard? I only see OpenVPN and Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol when I go to Network > Settings. | 06:18 |
| Rockwood | tengo, why OS not picking correct time auto? | 06:18 |
| cybergig22 | hows it going... | 06:19 |
| tengo | rockwood, it looks like the OS is picking up the correct local time | 06:19 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: This sounds like a question for ##php . | 06:19 |
| ducasse | wingedrhino: 20.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 | 06:19 |
| Rockwood | System clock synchronized: no | 06:19 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U tengo | 06:19 |
| Rockwood | is possible to sync this | 06:20 |
| Rockwood | and enable the NTP? | 06:20 |
| MJCD | CALL YA NAN | 06:20 |
| wingedrhino | ducasse, aah okay asking there | 06:20 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: timedatectl set-ntp true | 06:24 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QhNVJDkPmy/ is it fine? Jordan_U | 06:24 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, System clock synchronized: no | 06:26 |
| Rockwood | still the same | 06:26 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: Please pastebin the full output of "timedatectl". | 06:26 |
| Rockwood | ok | 06:26 |
| tengo | jordan_U,possibly relating to this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1203038/cant-sync-time-to-network-server-on-ubuntu-19-10 | 06:27 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: systemctl restart systemd-timesyncd | 06:27 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbQKFtwrVj/ | 06:27 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JHcN53qvT3/ output of systemctl restart systemd-timesyncd | 06:28 |
| tengo | rockwood, what output do you get from "systemctl status ntp.service" | 06:29 |
| Jordan_U | tengo: Seems likely, yes. | 06:29 |
| Rockwood | why pastebinit isn't working today? | 06:30 |
| Rockwood | is it down? | 06:30 |
| Rockwood | cyberia@cyberia:~$ sudo systemctl status ntp.service | pastebinit | 06:30 |
| Rockwood | Failed to contact the server: <urlopen error [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution> | 06:30 |
| Rockwood | yesterday it was working | 06:31 |
| tengo | rockwood, I've been able to seem all but of your pastes. Maybe it just stops you pasting too many too quickly. | 06:31 |
| tengo | *all but one | 06:31 |
| Rockwood | tengo, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Vp8Z3TKnmd/ | 06:31 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, ^^ | 06:32 |
| Rockwood | output of systemctl status ntp.service | 06:32 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: systemd-timesyncd can handle network time synchronization on its own. You can simply "sudo apt remove ntp ntpdate sntp" . | 06:34 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qttsvpQrQj/ removed | 06:37 |
| tengo | rockwood, you might need to restart systemd-timesyncd.service after the removal of those services. | 06:38 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, tengo https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Grbhnd54rg/ | 06:38 |
| Rockwood | i ve done | 06:38 |
| Jordan_U | Rockwood: Great, "systemctl restart systemd-timesyncd" again. | 06:39 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, done again | 06:39 |
| Rockwood | System clock synchronized: no still not sync | 06:40 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: systemd-resolve --statistics 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; systemctl status systemd-timesyncd 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; timedatectl status 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 06:40 |
| tomreyn | should produce 3 urls | 06:40 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NYKvBs325x/ | 06:41 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, okay doing | 06:41 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zqKKFgmPK6/ | 06:42 |
| Rockwood | i am surprise its not resolving urls today | 06:43 |
| tengo | Rockwood, does it have an internet connection at the moment? | 06:44 |
| Rockwood | tengo, i am chatting on same machine | 06:45 |
| Rockwood | means on win | 06:45 |
| system | hello | 06:46 |
| tengo | Rockwood, does the VM have an internet connection though? | 06:46 |
| Rockwood | i am not sure about internet on VM | 06:46 |
| Rockwood | but yesterday its opening | 06:47 |
| tengo | Rockwood, from within the ubuntu OS VM ping 9.9.9.9 | 06:47 |
| tengo | Rockwood, is the ping successful? | 06:48 |
| Rockwood | tengo, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zyf7D6GddP/ | 06:48 |
| tomreyn | so (besides high but stable latency) just a resolver issue | 06:49 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DKWR72Cxcn/ | 06:49 |
| Rockwood | names not resolving | 06:49 |
| tomreyn | right | 06:49 |
| tomreyn | 9.9.9.9 is a public resolver you can use, 1.1.1.1, too. the latter may be faster (ping it, too, to test). | 06:50 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | hi all! | 06:51 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4cvpdFctst/ | 06:51 |
| tomreyn | that's much lower, so you may want to prefer this one | 06:52 |
| Rockwood | as you advise | 06:52 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, i can add any | 06:53 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | anyone mess with S390X versions of ubuntu and hercules.. I having issues with install getting about 80% done and biffing it.. | 06:53 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: is this s desktop computer? if so, configure the 1.1.1.1 nameserver for your current internet connection using the GUI. | 06:54 |
| Rockwood | yes tomreyn my laptop | 06:54 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | I can't get past base install. | 06:54 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, is effect my win too? | 06:54 |
| Rockwood | means out of VM | 06:55 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | I guess can anyone point me to a min install with no X for hercules mainframe S370X I just want a console. | 06:55 |
| tengo | tomreyn, rockwood's issue is with time on his ubuntu VM, not his dns. He's running an application in his ubuntu 19.10 vm (on Windows). The applicaiton is not picking up his local time. | 06:56 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: if you're asking whether this resolver change will also affect a co-installed windows operating system, then no, not ddirectly. just the system time will be correc thtrere for a while after you ran ubuntu. | 06:56 |
| tomreyn | tengo: hmm but we've seen there are dns issues, which means time synchronization will likely fail? | 06:57 |
| tomreyn | *network time synchronization | 06:57 |
| tengo | tomreyn: sorry I seem to be missing the issue around dns? | 06:57 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, then np | 06:57 |
| tomreyn | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DKWR72Cxcn/ -> "ping: google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution" | 06:58 |
| tengo | tomreyn: thanks. | 06:58 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, yes i wanna do corrections | 06:58 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | I know with VM things dont anwser from outside without some internal port forwarding tools. l cant think of the name off hand.. if your running ubuntu webserver via windows.. you have to run a netmanger I got from vmware ... | 06:58 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | pro. | 06:58 |
| tomreyn | tengo: also here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zqKKFgmPK6/ | 06:59 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: so did you configure the 1.1.1.1 nameserver for your current internet connection on ubuntu? | 06:59 |
| tomreyn | tengo: thanks for pointing out it's an ubuntu VM on a windows host, though, i hadn't gotten this. | 07:00 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, how to configure that | 07:00 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | windows vm.. virtual adapters are a bearcat for ports to work. | 07:00 |
| Rockwood | i am not sure how to add that tomreyn | 07:00 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: is it an ethernet connection? | 07:00 |
| Rockwood | on ubuntu? | 07:00 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: yes | 07:01 |
| tomreyn | it probably is if it's a VM | 07:01 |
| Rockwood | i am not sure about it tomreyn | 07:01 |
| tomreyn | you should see the network manager "network" icon on the top right. do you? | 07:01 |
| Rockwood | but i can access url on my win too | 07:01 |
| Rockwood | like localhost | 07:02 |
| tengo | tomreyn: I don't think he's has a gui | 07:02 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, i didn't installed GUI | 07:02 |
| Rockwood | on ubuntu | 07:02 |
| Rockwood | i ve terminal just for do something | 07:03 |
| tomreyn | i see where my question "is this a desktop computer" was badly phrased now. | 07:03 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | Using the Virtual Network Editor in VMware Workstation (1018697) | 07:03 |
| tengo | tomreyn: I think the VM will just see the connection as a wired connection, even if the latop is using w/less | 07:03 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: you need to edit the netplan configuration file to set the resolver then | 07:03 |
| tomreyn | tengo: yes, most likely | 07:03 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, how to config that? | 07:04 |
| tomreyn | !netplan | 07:04 |
| ubottu | Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/ | 07:04 |
| tomreyn | the configuration file should be somewhere in /etc/netplan | 07:04 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | start here with anything network broken when it comes to VM and Ubuntu. | 07:04 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KkpfZ4gwqc/ | 07:06 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | another funky thing network stuff doesn't seem to work till you login.. so trying to get ssh or other stuff to work.. dont start very well on bootup. | 07:07 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6PvKws5Cq/ surprising result on localhost its resolving | 07:08 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | another thing is YAML is very picky about spacing or it cant parse your config file. | 07:08 |
| Rockwood | CoCo_Kid594, not understand | 07:09 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: To disable cloud-init's network configuration capabilities, write a file /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/99-disable-network-config.cfg with the following: | 07:11 |
| tomreyn | network: {config: disabled} | 07:11 |
| tomreyn | then replace the netplan configuration file by this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NcjcZyRwsp/ | 07:12 |
| tomreyn | then reboot the ubuntu vm | 07:12 |
| tomreyn | generally, to run an ubuntu server (no gui), you'll need to learn how to get around it, and how to handle basic configurations such as networking | 07:14 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, sudo ls -i /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg/ | 07:14 |
| Rockwood | ls: cannot access '/etc/cloud/cloud.cfg/': Not a directory | 07:14 |
| tomreyn | create it then | 07:14 |
| tomreyn | it's /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/ not /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg/ | 07:15 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w5MPYgwKFz/ yeah right | 07:16 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zwbk2B8w8v/ | 07:17 |
| Rockwood | 99-disable-network-config.cfg isn't in | 07:18 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> create it then | 07:18 |
| Rockwood | okay | 07:18 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | anyone here into clasic ubuntu? at least everything works good? | 07:19 |
| tomreyn | CoCo_Kid594: what do you mean by "clasic ubuntu"? | 07:20 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | Linux 2.6.32-29-generic i686 that far enough back for ya? | 07:20 |
| tomreyn | too far, not supported here, end of life | 07:21 |
| tomreyn | !eol | 07:21 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 07:21 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, file is created | 07:21 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: good. | 07:22 |
| Rockwood | but should be blank? i am talking 99-disable-network-config.cfg | 07:22 |
| tomreyn | just re-read what i wrote, please | 07:22 |
| Rockwood | no content goest in it? | 07:22 |
| Rockwood | network: {config: disabled} i ve write this just | 07:23 |
| Rockwood | okay doing | 07:23 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | it has been running on a model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz 24/7 for almost | 07:23 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | when did that version come out.. thats how long its been running. | 07:24 |
| tomreyn | CoCo_Kid594: unless you have specific questions on supported ubuntu releases or are convinced you have helpful suggestions for others, please use #ubuntu-discuss (or #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat) | 07:25 |
| CoCo_Kid594 | problem with updates its brakes everything.... it runs a very old half-life server.. it would break things.. I use cups, ntp, web and samba every single day.. | 07:26 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: let me know once you've reached the part where you rebooted. | 07:27 |
| Rockwood | actually i am unable save in it | 07:28 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, | 07:28 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, cyberia@cyberia:/etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d$ sudo nano /etc/netplan/*.yaml | 07:28 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, i am trying to this | 07:30 |
| Rockwood | <tomreyn> then replace the netplan configuration file by this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NcjcZyRwsp/ | 07:30 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RDC49zVwHz/ i am surprise after sudo its not editable | 07:33 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: me, too. it should be. | 07:33 |
| tomreyn | so what's the error message you get there? | 07:34 |
| tomreyn | you can also do this: wget -qO- https://termbin.com/n1g8 | sudo tee -a /etc/netplan/config.yaml | 07:36 |
| tomreyn | this downloads https://termbin.com/n1g8 (a copy of what i previously posted at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NcjcZyRwsp/ ) and places it at /etc/netplan/config.yaml overwriting what was previously there. | 07:37 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, Error:/etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml: open for write: permission denied | 07:38 |
| Rockwood | Error:File transfer failed | 07:38 |
| Rockwood | i tried by ftp too | 07:38 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, <tomreyn> you can also do this: wget -qO- https://termbin.com/n1g8 | sudo tee -a /etc/netplan/config.yaml done | 07:39 |
| tomreyn | now sudo rm /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml if you also have this | 07:40 |
| tomreyn | (or move it out of the way to have a backup) | 07:40 |
| tengo | tomreyn, won't the termbin link fail if dns isn't working? | 07:40 |
| spronkey | hmm, does anyone have any idea how to stop Software & Updates from greying out all the nvidia drivers and only allowing me to select "continue using a manually installed driver" ? I've tried apt remove --purge *nvidia* | 07:40 |
| spronkey | dpkg-query -l nvidia* shows a bunch of stuff "un", and nvidia-340 "in" | 07:41 |
| tomreyn | tengo: maybe, yes | 07:41 |
| tomreyn | tengo: i actually meant to provide it by ip address, thanks for the reminder | 07:41 |
| tengo | tomreyn: no problem, you seem to have things under control. I'm just following along. | 07:42 |
| tomreyn | hmm no it won't work by ip address, that's not configured on their webserver | 07:42 |
| tomreyn | but it can work with curl. | 07:43 |
| Rockwood | i created /etc/netplan/config.yaml and paste https://termbin.com/n1g8 and paste this content | 07:44 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, | 07:44 |
| Rockwood | should i restart now the VM OS | 07:44 |
| Rockwood | should i restart now the VM's OS | 07:44 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: so, to verify things went well, can you post a file listing of the files you have in /etc/cloud/ and /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/ and /etc/netplan/ ? | 07:44 |
| tomreyn | ls -la /etc/cloud/ /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/ /etc/netplan/ 2>&1 | nc 5.39.93.71 9999 | 07:45 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: please use this command ^ | 07:46 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://termbin.com/j9yu | 07:46 |
| Rockwood | i was running | 07:46 |
| Rockwood | i am slower lol | 07:47 |
| Rockwood | anyway command's output i posted | 07:47 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, is it fine? | 07:47 |
| tomreyn | /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/n should probably not exist? | 07:47 |
| Rockwood | measn? | 07:47 |
| Rockwood | means | 07:47 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m2zCjp3Dtq/ | 07:48 |
| tomreyn | you created it just now. check whats in it, delete it if it not needed | 07:48 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, it is there | 07:48 |
| Rockwood | n? | 07:48 |
| Rockwood | onl n | 07:48 |
| Rockwood | only "n" tom | 07:49 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, | 07:49 |
| tomreyn | yes, that's the name of the file you just created | 07:49 |
| Rockwood | cyberia@cyberia:~$ ls /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/n | 07:49 |
| tomreyn | probably while working with nano and answering "n" at the wrong prompt | 07:49 |
| Rockwood | now remove n? | 07:50 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> you created it just now. check whats in it, delete it if it not needed | 07:50 |
| Rockwood | i am not sure about usages | 07:51 |
| tomreyn | it's your system, i didn't tell you to create this file, but it was just created. you'll need to make sure your system operates as you need it to. | 07:51 |
| tomreyn | i suspect you created the file /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/n by mistake and can just delete it. | 07:52 |
| Rockwood | okay | 07:52 |
| tomreyn | (but not knowing what's in it or why you created it, i'm only guessing) | 07:52 |
| Rockwood | i didn't created | 07:53 |
| tomreyn | well then someone else who has root access to your computer did | 07:53 |
| Rockwood | i accessed this section first time | 07:53 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, removed | 07:55 |
| Rockwood | restart now? | 07:55 |
| tomreyn | /etc/netplan/.50-cloud-init.yaml.swp should also not exist | 07:56 |
| tomreyn | it's probably a leftover of using vim to edit the file, but not exiting vim properly | 07:56 |
| tomreyn | (or the network connection dropping) | 07:57 |
| Rockwood | remove that too? | 07:57 |
| tomreyn | if you don't need it still, yes | 07:57 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, removed that is | 07:59 |
| Rockwood | .50-cloud-init.yaml.swp this fi;e | 07:59 |
| Rockwood | file | 07:59 |
| Rockwood | now? | 08:00 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: yes, you should be able to reboot now. | 08:00 |
| Rockwood | okay doing now | 08:00 |
| spronkey | ohh thank god, to answer my above question, delete all the kernel modules, reinit ramfs, reboot! | 08:00 |
| spronkey | next problem: pulse audio | 08:00 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, started | 08:04 |
| Rockwood | OS booted now | 08:05 |
| Rockwood | means ubuntu | 08:05 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: so try ping -c1 google.com and some other websites you know now, see if you still get resolver issues. | 08:06 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, resolving now https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tR4CRGzkJ3/ | 08:07 |
| tomreyn | you tried *one* site. | 08:07 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dwZhZX7JZd/ | 08:08 |
| Rockwood | yahoo also ping | 08:08 |
| Rockwood | and pastebinit also works | 08:09 |
| tomreyn | good, now try some more and when you finished *all* of those tests, write "tomreyn" again. | 08:09 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, names resolving now and now my concern | 08:10 |
| Rockwood | is ubuntu should be auto sync timing as per timezone | 08:11 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, | 08:11 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: which command did you use previously to check whether the network time synchronization works? | 08:11 |
| Rockwood | sudo timedatectl set-ntp true | 08:12 |
| Rockwood | lol | 08:12 |
| tomreyn | no, that's a command to change a configuration | 08:12 |
| Rockwood | timedatectl | 08:13 |
| tengo | tomreyn, it seems like rockwood may have had an issue like this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1203038/cant-sync-time-to-network-server-on-ubuntu-19-10 | 08:13 |
| tengo | tomreyn, another user on channel had rockwood remove some ntp services. | 08:14 |
| tomreyn | tengo: i think ntp was removed, wasn't it? | 08:14 |
| Rockwood | i need to chk | 08:14 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: so what does timedatectl say now? | 08:14 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9NrZtHzdhY/ | 08:15 |
| Rockwood | tengo, you right i think i remove that | 08:15 |
| Rockwood | removed | 08:15 |
| tomreyn | tengo: feel frree to guide Rockwood, i've spent too much time already ;) | 08:16 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, thanks | 08:16 |
| tengo | tomreyn, ntp ntpdate sntp | 08:16 |
| tomreyn | tengo: yes, any of these could get int he way, you're right | 08:16 |
| tomreyn | * in the | 08:16 |
| Rockwood | tengo, should try this? ntp ntpdate sntp | 08:17 |
| Rockwood | should i | 08:17 |
| tengo | tomreyn, I was just chipping in with things I could think of, not from experience. | 08:18 |
| tengo | rockwood, no, you have removed those services, I wouldn't install them again. | 08:18 |
| tomreyn | tengo: it's a good hint | 08:18 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JTfW5hgSDT/ tengo tomreyn | 08:19 |
| tengo | rockwood, my understanding is "systemd-timesyncd.service" will handle the time sync. | 08:19 |
| tomreyn | i think Rockwood should paste systemctl status systemd-timesyncd.service 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:19 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NXdJBx3STk/ | 08:20 |
| tomreyn | sudo apt purge ntp | 08:20 |
| Rockwood | should i do? | 08:20 |
| Rockwood | purge | 08:20 |
| Rockwood | lol i am wating for green signal of tomreyn | 08:21 |
| Rockwood | waiting | 08:21 |
| tomreyn | you need to ensure you have only one service capable of running the network time synchronization installed. by default, you have systemd-timesyncd for this purpose. you also have ntp installed apparently, but disabled. still, in this configuration, systemd-timesyncd won't start due to the sheer existence of ntp(d) | 08:22 |
| tomreyn | so if you would like to return to the default configuration, yes, you should run sudo apt purge ntp | 08:22 |
| Rockwood | okay | 08:23 |
| tomreyn | if you instead want to use ntp(d), you should rather unmask the service. | 08:23 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, yes i removed https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Pc33jvd5xv/ | 08:24 |
| Rockwood | right | 08:24 |
| Rockwood | now | 08:24 |
| Rockwood | now what should be next for me | 08:24 |
| Rockwood | ? | 08:25 |
| tomreyn | hmm, it wasn't installed | 08:25 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, i tried twice | 08:25 |
| tomreyn | and only posted the output fromt he second run? i see. | 08:25 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hd6NZ5DvhP/ | 08:25 |
| tomreyn | sudo can run sudo apt --purge autoremove to clean up the other leftover packages | 08:26 |
| Rockwood | yes its is second time | 08:26 |
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| Rockwood | sudo can run sudo apt --purge autoremove is this full commad | 08:26 |
| Rockwood | ? | 08:26 |
| tomreyn | that's a full command, root can run it. | 08:26 |
| tomreyn | also your user through sudo | 08:27 |
| Rockwood | so i am going to run -- >sudo apt --purge autoremove | 08:27 |
| tengo | ues | 08:27 |
| tengo | *yes | 08:27 |
| Rockwood | okay | 08:27 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, tengo done | 08:27 |
| tomreyn | ah sorry i had a typo there. | 08:28 |
| Rockwood | what is that? | 08:28 |
| tomreyn | i wrote "sudo can run", but meant to write "you can run" | 08:28 |
| tengo | tomreyn only one'-'? | 08:28 |
| tomreyn | you can run sudo apt --purge autoremove to clean up the other leftover packages | 08:28 |
| Rockwood | i ve done --> sudo apt --purge autoremove | 08:28 |
| tomreyn | good | 08:29 |
| tomreyn | now, is your network time synchronization working, yet? | 08:29 |
| Rockwood | testing | 08:29 |
| tomreyn | how are you testing? | 08:29 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mRQjDHyz6z/ | 08:30 |
| Rockwood | lol | 08:30 |
| Rockwood | means chking | 08:30 |
| Rockwood | no synced | 08:30 |
| Rockwood | as per my time 14:00 | 08:31 |
| tengo | rockwood, that has changed thought. previously your local time was IST | 08:31 |
| Rockwood | Local time: Sun 2020-04-19 08:29:34 UTC | 08:31 |
| tengo | *though | 08:31 |
| Rockwood | yes it was there but now not showing | 08:31 |
| Rockwood | ubuntu 19.10 first time i am using and i ve a bad experience with it | 08:33 |
| Rockwood | 18.04 was fine | 08:33 |
| tomreyn | this will show the status of the systemd-timesyncd (default network time synchronization server) service: systemctl status systemd-timesyncd.service | 08:33 |
| tengo | rockwood, I find not reading the change log can cause a bad initial experience. | 08:34 |
| tomreyn | it should say it is loaded, enabled, and active | 08:34 |
| tomreyn | i find not reading any documentation can cause a bad initial experience. | 08:34 |
| tengo | tomreyn: completely agree | 08:35 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xmTc7fYjy3/ | 08:35 |
| tomreyn | so this failed to start "22min ago" due to "Condition check resulted in Network Time Synchronization being skipped" | 08:36 |
| tomreyn | which probably means it didn't start at the time because the "ntp" package was still installed then | 08:37 |
| tomreyn | (and maybe yet more other network time synchronization services) | 08:37 |
| Rockwood | should i remove this OS and install old version of ubuntu | 08:38 |
| Rockwood | ? | 08:38 |
| tomreyn | i suggest you restart the systemd-timesyncd service now so it will re-check its startup conditions and hopefully realize ntp is no longer installed, and that it should start up. | 08:38 |
| Rockwood | okay | 08:38 |
| tomreyn | if you're planning to replace this installation shortly then maybe we should not spend so much time on it. | 08:39 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, yet not | 08:40 |
| Rockwood | not planning for replace | 08:40 |
| Rockwood | i am just taking your view about it | 08:40 |
| tengo | Rockwood: has restaring the service helped? | 08:41 |
| Rockwood | still i am try to finding command for restart | 08:42 |
| Rockwood | sudo systemctl restart systemd-timesyncd.service | 08:42 |
| Rockwood | got it | 08:42 |
| tomreyn | systemctl is the command for managing services on a systemd based system like any current ubuntu release | 08:43 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X5KMxgR7cP/ after restarted | 08:43 |
| tomreyn | so how do you interpret this output? | 08:44 |
| tengo | rockwood tomreyn looks like an issue with virtualbox, which I assume is what is being used for the hyper-visor management. | 08:45 |
| Rockwood | tengo, how can i trace it? | 08:46 |
| tengo | rockwood tomreyn I'm not familiar with virtualbox, if thats what is being used, but I would check for a service relating to that. | 08:46 |
| Rockwood | okay | 08:46 |
| tomreyn | yes, the virtualbox guest utilities installe don this system probably act as a time synchronization service and thus systemd-timesyncd is not started on this system. | 08:46 |
| tomreyn | what's the output of ls -l /usr/sbin/VBoxService does it seem like it exists and is executable? | 08:47 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, cyberia@cyberia:~$ ls -l /usr/sbin/VBoxService | 08:48 |
| Rockwood | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 Mar 5 16:47 /usr/sbin/VBoxService -> /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-6.1.4/sbin/VBoxService | 08:48 |
| tomreyn | and does /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-6.1.4/sbin/VBoxService exist and is executable? | 08:48 |
| Rockwood | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kGX454stzk/ | 08:49 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, yes those are executing | 08:50 |
| tengo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1858095 | 08:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1848309 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1858095 "Automatic Date & Time" doesn't reflect the service status" [Low,Triaged] | 08:50 |
| tengo | "After purging virtualbox-guest-utils and virtualbox-6.0, ntp sync was successful:" | 08:50 |
| tengo | I took that from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1198863/how-to-enable-automatic-date-and-time-on-ubuntu-19-10 | 08:50 |
| tengo | I'm not sure removing vbox utils is the only answer, as you would lose the management features that come with vbox utils. | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | so one of the pre-conditions of systemd-timesynd is that /usr/sbin/VBoxService does *not* exist (that's what the "!" stands for, i think), but it exists on your system, so systemd-timesynd does not start, as seen at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X5KMxgR7cP/ | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | actually the condition is that this file (does not exist and) is not executable: "ConditionFileIsExecutable=!/usr/sbin/VBoxService was not met" | 08:53 |
| tengo | tomreyn: its a very demanding service :) | 08:53 |
| tomreyn | so either use the time synchronization (it probably synchs the time against that of the host system, so windows), or remove or diable the virtualbox guest service. | 08:54 |
| tomreyn | so either use the time synchronization the virtualbox guest service provides (it probably synchs the time against that of the host system, so windows), or remove or diable the virtualbox guest service. | 08:54 |
| tomreyn | ^ this is what i meant to write | 08:54 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: ^ | 08:55 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, i understand your point | 08:56 |
| tomreyn | the idea there will be that virtualbox assumes your host system (windows) will have the proper time and dat already, and then it just reuses that on the ubuntu guest system, because there is no need to run network synchronization there, too, then. | 08:56 |
| tomreyn | *datE | 08:56 |
| tengo | might be helpful https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#changetimesync | 08:57 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: now how you fix your resolver and time synchronization issues on the host system would be out of scope for this channel, but you should probably do that first. or you could consider the options documented at the link tengo just posted. | 08:58 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, thanks sure i am chking that | 08:59 |
| Rockwood | tengo, thanks you too | 08:59 |
| tengo | Rockwood: you're welcome, credit to tomreyn. | 08:59 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, given huge time for my issue which not related to OS | 09:00 |
| Rockwood | really very big thanks to him :) | 09:00 |
| tomreyn | :) | 09:02 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: what you will probably need to do on the host system is to solve the same problem we solved on the guest system: resolver problems. i.e. you may want to configure a custom resolver (nameserver) for your internet connection, such as 1.1.1.1 | 09:05 |
| tomreyn | help with how to do this may be available in ##windows | 09:06 |
| tomreyn | spronkey: did you still need help there? ideally with something not nvidia related? | 09:07 |
| spronkey | @tomreyn trying to figure out why my machine essentially hardlocks | 09:07 |
| spronkey | [ 2580.513688] NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context | 09:07 |
| spronkey | getting a bunch of this in dmesg | 09:08 |
| tomreyn | NV in NVRM standing for nvidia | 09:08 |
| spronkey | mmm | 09:08 |
| DrManhattan | wow, that's a now one spronkey, are you running tensorflow apps? | 09:08 |
| DrManhattan | new | 09:08 |
| spronkey | so...... no, nothing not nvidia related :) | 09:08 |
| spronkey | DrManhattan nope just general desktop at this stage, not even anything demanding | 09:08 |
| DrManhattan | ugh, I'm sorry | 09:08 |
| DrManhattan | what does glxgears look like? | 09:10 |
| DrManhattan | might need mesa-utils | 09:10 |
| spronkey | everything runs just fine, even e.g. vulkan games | 09:10 |
| spronkey | ...the system just locks up | 09:11 |
| spronkey | can ssh in, i'm watching dmesg atm | 09:11 |
| DrManhattan | that sounds like a hardware issue | 09:11 |
| tomreyn | spronkey: which ubuntu version are you running, is it fully updated, how did you install nvidia drivers, which exact nvidia hardware is it? | 09:11 |
| DrManhattan | oe noes, nvidia forums says hardware error too :( https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/nvrm-os-schedule-attempted-to-yield-the-cpu-while-in-atomic-or-interrupt-context/40690 | 09:11 |
| spronkey | 18.04.04, yes fully updated, gtx 660 (pulled from my other desktop, windows, had been rock solid for several years there) | 09:12 |
| spronkey | this machine had been rock solid for several years too with the igpu | 09:12 |
| tomreyn | "how did you install nvidia drivers"? | 09:13 |
| DrManhattan | is the 660 still supported? | 09:13 |
| spronkey | tomreyn tried the additional-drivers tool to begin with, then ended up installing from nvidia's website (no luck, still crashy), then purged everything and reinstalled v435 (recommended) from ubuntu-drivers | 09:13 |
| spronkey | by purged I mean, apt remove --purge *nvidia* + del all the kernel modules | 09:14 |
| tomreyn | v435 may well be too recent for this card. | 09:14 |
| tomreyn | try the oldest driver you can get first of all. | 09:14 |
| tomreyn | from ubuntu | 09:14 |
| spronkey | hmm | 09:14 |
| DrManhattan | https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/current-graphics-driver-releases/28500 | 09:15 |
| tomreyn | i think it's 330 | 09:15 |
| spronkey | apparnetly there are some issues with kernel 5 and older nv drivers | 09:15 |
| DrManhattan | 304.137 is the last version supported for your card | 09:15 |
| spronkey | hmm | 09:15 |
| tomreyn | nvidia-340 seems to be the oldest available on 18.04 LTS | 09:16 |
| spronkey | yeh | 09:17 |
| tomreyn | or you can try your luck with nouveau | 09:17 |
| spronkey | nouveau has its own, entirely separate crashing issue haha | 09:17 |
| spronkey | :'( | 09:17 |
| tomreyn | or you can buy hardware from a company which supports the linux ecosystem | 09:17 |
| spronkey | i thought i'd be clever and trickle down a gpu into the pc I have hooked up to tv | 09:17 |
| spronkey | i'll try 340 anyway | 09:19 |
| spronkey | hmm | 09:19 |
| spronkey | any idea how on to REISUB from a non-root user? | 09:20 |
| tomreyn | make sure you properly removed nay traces of the driver you had downloaded from nvidia.com, too | 09:20 |
| Jordan_U | spronkey: Generally you do sysrq magic from the local keyboard. | 09:20 |
| tomreyn | magic sysrq does not depend on the user currently logged in | 09:20 |
| spronkey | [ 3693.343505] sysrq: This sysrq operation is disabled. | 09:20 |
| spronkey | that's R anyawy | 09:20 |
| tomreyn | only SUB are enabled on ubuntu by default | 09:20 |
| Jordan_U | spronkey: Most sysrq operations are disabled by default. | 09:21 |
| spronkey | ah, k | 09:21 |
| tomreyn | +H | 09:21 |
| tomreyn | H is good for testing | 09:21 |
| spronkey | well apparently b isn't rebooting my system but it's writing the help message to dmesg | 09:22 |
| Jordan_U | spronkey: https://askubuntu.com/questions/911522/how-can-i-enable-the-magic-sysrq-key-on-ubuntu-desktop | 09:22 |
| tomreyn | h would write the help message, b, should be rebooting | 09:22 |
| spronkey | hmmm | 09:24 |
| spronkey | nope, no rebooting :S | 09:24 |
| Jordan_U | spronkey: Though I generally edit /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf instead. That file also has a nice explanation of the possible values. | 09:24 |
| spronkey | guess it's power cycle time | 09:24 |
| Rockwood | tomreyn, means my IP of dns? | 09:24 |
| spronkey | sorry whatever was running :/ | 09:25 |
| tomreyn | before reobooting (B), you should sync (S) and unmount (U), and wait 3 or so seconds (or until it prints the message) after at least the sync | 09:25 |
| Jordan_U | spronkey: Maybe a keyboard layout issue? | 09:25 |
| tomreyn | Fn (function) keys thend to get in the way on laptops | 09:25 |
| spronkey | @tomreyn yeah, had waited a decent amount of time, emergency remount was complete | 09:25 |
| spronkey | as was emergency sync | 09:26 |
| tomreyn | Rockwood: this question is pretty short so i can only guess what you are asking, and my guess is the answer to that is "yes". | 09:26 |
| spronkey | maybe I can find an amd gpu to swap my 660 for lol | 09:26 |
| spronkey | amazingly i think this is my first time actually running a linux system with a dgpu despite running linux for a decade or so | 09:28 |
| spronkey | hmm | 09:28 |
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| spronkey | well that's odd, attempting to apply changes in GUI to use 340 and it just reverts to 435 selected | 09:29 |
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| Rockwood | ok tomreyn thanks | 09:29 |
| Rockwood | cya | 09:29 |
| Rockwood | now time to eat lol | 09:29 |
| Rockwood | i spent lots of time on it | 09:29 |
| DrManhattan | spronkey, purge and install 304.137 17 (x86 5 / x86_64 16) - GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs (*) | 09:30 |
| DrManhattan | that's the last version that will work on your card | 09:30 |
| DrManhattan | spronkey, https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/current-graphics-driver-releases/28500 | 09:30 |
| spronkey | ehm | 09:31 |
| spronkey | i think GF6 series is lke | 09:31 |
| DrManhattan | they keep that up to date | 09:31 |
| spronkey | ~2004 | 09:31 |
| spronkey | mine's 600 series i think | 09:31 |
| myphs | hi, is there a way to get suspend to disk without a swap? | 09:31 |
| spronkey | v440 lists the GTX 660 specifically | 09:31 |
| spronkey | https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/440.82/README/supportedchips.html | 09:31 |
| EriC^^ | myphs: create a swapfile? | 09:32 |
| DrManhattan | spronkey, holey moley. Looks like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing over there | 09:32 |
| DrManhattan | I am quite surprised | 09:32 |
| * stephpdale watches DrManhattan and spronkey and thinks | 09:32 | |
| DrManhattan | they even put out official annoucements and the such | 09:32 |
| spronkey | iirc there were GeForce 6xxx cards many many years ago | 09:33 |
| myphs | EriC^^: i didn't know that was a thing lol. thanks! | 09:33 |
| DrManhattan | they mean geforce 6XX | 09:33 |
| EriC^^ | myphs: no problem | 09:33 |
| spronkey | hmm | 09:33 |
| stephpdale | myphs, sudo fallocate -l 2G /swapfile | sudo chmod 0600 /swapfile | sudo chown root:root /swapfile | sudo mkswap /swapfile | sudo swapon /swapfile | 09:33 |
| DrManhattan | they've been legacy'ing a lot of cards | 09:33 |
| spronkey | surely not, because v390 supports GF1xx, which is older than GF660 | 09:33 |
| DrManhattan | fermi and back basically are all legacy now | 09:33 |
| stephpdale | DrManhattan, As long as my GTX 1060 3 GB desktop card keeps working I'm happy | 09:34 |
| spronkey | yeah, gtx660 is newer than fermi | 09:34 |
| DrManhattan | is it? I thought the 6's were fermi too... | 09:34 |
| spronkey | ugh their naming scheme :| | 09:34 |
| spronkey | kepler i think? | 09:34 |
| stephpdale | I do have a 460 768 MB I think sitting round somewhere in my room | 09:34 |
| spronkey | yeah, 660 is kepler | 09:34 |
| DrManhattan | really? I thought they didn't go to kepler until the late 7xx | 09:35 |
| DrManhattan | wow | 09:35 |
| stephpdale | Wikipedia will tell us | 09:35 |
| * stephpdale googles | 09:35 | |
| DrManhattan | that must have been fun to play on | 09:35 |
| spronkey | yeah I can't keep up, have to wiki :P | 09:35 |
| stephpdale | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series is kepler | 09:35 |
| myphs | stephpdale: thanks. is it automatically recognized for suspend to disk and everything reloaded from there then? | 09:35 |
| stephpdale | myphs, Yeah | 09:35 |
| spronkey | hmm | 09:35 |
| spronkey | wonder if i can pass through the gpu to a windows vm or somethign | 09:36 |
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| myphs | stephpdale: thats awesome. even if i use full disk encryption? | 09:36 |
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| DrManhattan | yeah I don't think they sent kepler to legacy | 09:36 |
| stephpdale | myphs, I'm not sure about FDE, but you'll never know if you don't try :) | 09:36 |
| spronkey | hmm, googling around about this would indicate to me it's common enough that hardware failure seems unlikely | 09:37 |
| DrManhattan | spronkey, you are correct, that's for the geforce 6XXX's | 09:37 |
| DrManhattan | my sincerest facepalming apologies | 09:37 |
| spronkey | 600 is bigger than 6000 right? :) | 09:37 |
| myphs | stephpdale: you're right. time to get into another adventure. i'm excited! | 09:38 |
| nikolam | I cona't boot off Btrfs partition, it keeps pushing me into BusyBox and that's it, whatever I choose. I were experimenting with memory/RAM that were PASSING all memory tests but couldn't boot with those modules in machine. I have bring back old modules that worked but machine does not boot pass the Busybox. Is there some counter that stops booting ubuntu past certain number of failed boots? | 09:38 |
| DrManhattan | ugh, maybe they think they're playing video card golf there | 09:38 |
| spronkey | :D | 09:38 |
| DrManhattan | I have an rtx 2070 right now chained to a 2700x on 18.04.04 and win10 | 09:38 |
| DrManhattan | I'm going to turn the gui off and give tensorflow a shot - I need to look at some stock databases and see how stocker works | 09:39 |
| spronkey | :) | 09:40 |
| stephpdale | OS: Ubuntu "focal" 20.04 | 09:40 |
| spronkey | thx for help | 09:40 |
| DrManhattan | there's an R based program for long term and there's a 1 day estimate progran that uses tensorflow - BOTH called "stocker" - I want to see if they have anything in common | 09:40 |
| DrManhattan | when is 20.04 officially releasing? | 09:41 |
| stephpdale | DrManhattan, 23rd | 09:41 |
| DrManhattan | aw yeah | 09:41 |
| stephpdale | It's usable now if you install the beta and fully upgrade | 09:41 |
| DrManhattan | no, i'll wait | 09:41 |
| stephpdale | I can't find any bugs since I upgraded | 09:41 |
| DrManhattan | I mean, 18.04 is solid as a rock right now, I'm in no hurry | 09:41 |
| Jordan_U | myphs: stephpdale: No, that is not enough to get a swap file working for suspend to disk. The kernel won't know where to find the file when resuming. | 09:42 |
| DrManhattan | I'm running plex on 18.04 with a 1220l xeon and a 1050ti with an unlocked encode module | 09:42 |
| stephpdale | 'Alpha' means feature incomplete, 'Beta' means feature complete but still some bugs to crush | 09:42 |
| stephpdale | Jordan_U, Probably need suspend=diskname/swapfile in boot flags | 09:42 |
| DrManhattan | but as soon as I get database projection software adapted to my needs, and ESPECIALLY if I can get it running on some kind of GPU accelerated VM, it's all over for the GUI on my ubuntu machines | 09:43 |
| DrManhattan | hell, ubuntu is a part of windows now | 09:43 |
| Kristine91 | Using Ubuntu 18.04 lts, while trying to try new Nvidia drivers it messed up my driver. Now when I login, nothing shows. Can someone's help me? I'm using my phone right now to chat. | 09:43 |
| DrManhattan | the only thing they don't share is the kernel and GPU | 09:43 |
| myphs | Jordan_U: do you know a simple solution to that? | 09:44 |
| DrManhattan | idk if anyone here has tried out ubuntu on windows, but it's a hoot. | 09:44 |
| stephpdale | As long as EVE Online keeps working in Ubuntu, I don't really care how badly Canonical screws up their own reputation :) | 09:45 |
| Jordan_U | myphs: Not one that works for full disk encryption, no. And I don't particularly like the options I've found for not using FDE either (depending on blocklists or installing uswsusp). | 09:46 |
| Jordan_U | nikolam: What error message do you get before being dropped to the busybox shell? Can you boot from a LiveUSB and run a btrfs scrub to check the filesystem? | 09:47 |
| DrManhattan | If they ever figure out how to enable gpu acceleration on ubuntu in windows, idk what that's going to do for the ubuntu desktop market | 09:48 |
| DrManhattan | or the linux desktop market | 09:48 |
| DrManhattan | I mean, it's STILL Ubuntu | 09:48 |
| Jordan_U | DrManhattan: Please move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic . | 09:48 |
| Kristine91 | I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 lts, while trying to install different Nvidia drivers(to fix external monitor issue) it messed up my driver. Now when I login, nothing shows. Can someone help me? I'm using my phone right now to chat. | 09:48 |
| DrManhattan | Jordan_U, my apologies. | 09:48 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, do you have ssh access? | 09:49 |
| myphs | Jordan_U: i see. that's sad. but LVM + swap partition should work flawlessly for suspend to disk, right ? | 09:49 |
| Jordan_U | myphs: Correct. | 09:49 |
| Kristine91 | I'm using tty terminal access yes, if that's what you mean | 09:49 |
| Kristine91 | And I think I have ssh access too | 09:50 |
| spronkey | hmm | 09:50 |
| myphs | Well. gotta create a 32GB swap partition then, i guess... sigh | 09:50 |
| spronkey | where can one learn about gpu passthrough and iommu groups | 09:50 |
| Kristine91 | DrManhattan is ssh necessary to fix this issue? | 09:51 |
| Jordan_U | myphs: In case you do want to go the uswsusp route, here's a Debian guide that explains how to get it to work even with full disk encryption. | 09:51 |
| Jordan_U | myphs: https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition | 09:51 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, it's the easiest way, but not necessarily the only way. | 09:51 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, are any of the terminals giving you a command prompt? | 09:52 |
| Kristine91 | Yes, I have access to terminal | 09:52 |
| famubu | Hi. I have a machine that is running Ubuntu 15.10. Is there a way I can upgrade it to the latest LTS version *without losing data*? | 09:53 |
| DrManhattan | ctrl+alt+function? | 09:53 |
| Kristine91 | Yes | 09:53 |
| DrManhattan | nice, can you purge the driver and reinstall the one you want from command line? | 09:54 |
| nikolam | Jordan_U, I am in the process of backing up data from USB flash to create Live USB with (x)Ubuntu on it to do just that, Btrfs check. | 09:54 |
| Jordan_U | myphs: Using uswsusp is probably the lesser of two evils as compared to having an unencrypted swap when using FDE (makes a lot of secrets available unencrypted on disk whenever you suspend to disk, or even just are low enough on RAM to start swapping). | 09:54 |
| DrManhattan | Jordan_U, thank you for the heads up. | 09:54 |
| nikolam | Jordan_U, I gen no error message, just drops me to BusyBox on any menu option | 09:54 |
| Kristine91 | DrManhattan I followed those steps earlier, but it didn't work. | 09:54 |
| Jordan_U | nikolam: Don't start with btrfs check, start with mounting and running a scrub, as recommended here: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Btrfsck . | 09:54 |
| nikolam | Jordan_U, yes, ok. thanks | 09:55 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, might need to delete an xorg.conf file too? | 09:55 |
| DrManhattan | or whatever the nvidia driver installs | 09:55 |
| DrManhattan | I always skip that option :) | 09:55 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: The best option would probably be to re-install. You can re-install while still preserving your /home/, even if it's not on a separate partition. | 09:56 |
| spronkey | argh damn, my motherboard doesn't support VT-d | 09:56 |
| Kristine91 | Oh really, lemme find those steps again. I can delete certain files given I know their location | 09:56 |
| DrManhattan | that must be pretty old | 09:57 |
| DrManhattan | my oldest ubuntu box is a 1366 intel and it supports it | 09:57 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: Otherwise you have to do an EOL upgrade to 16.04, then upgrade to 18.04, and then pretty soon you'll probably want to upgrade to 20.04 which will be release on the 23rd. | 09:57 |
| myphs | Jordan_U: that's pretty impressive! thanks a lot! | 09:57 |
| Jordan_U | myphs: You're welcome :) | 09:58 |
| Kristine91 | DrManhattan btw I'll try solution from this again. But this time I'll remove files. What other files should I remove? | 09:58 |
| DrManhattan | famubu, I second what Jordan_U said there - 15.04 to 20.04 may not be smooth sailing | 09:58 |
| Kristine91 | https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/564756/ubuntu-an515-53-nothing-after-login | 09:58 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, reading | 09:59 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, should be an applicable log in /var/log | 10:01 |
| famubu | Jordan_U, If I do the 15.10 -> 16.04 -> 18.04 route, how can I do the upgrade to 16.04 part? Is it possible without a re-install? | 10:01 |
| DocMors | famubu, if you wait half a week you maybe better off with a clean install of 20.04 | 10:02 |
| Kristine91 | DrManhattan I didn't find applicable log files there. Any specific names? | 10:02 |
| Jordan_U | !eolupgrade | famubu | 10:03 |
| ubottu | famubu: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 10:03 |
| Kristine91 | I do see nvidia-.... Files and gpu-msnager.log | 10:04 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: I really don't think that's a wise choice though. What do you expect to gain by upgrading rather than doing a re-install? If you have a lot setup that you don't know how to setup again and don't want to break, it's likely to break during the upgrade. | 10:04 |
| famubu | DocMors, I was hoping to avoid a re-install.. | 10:05 |
| Rockwood | cya | 10:06 |
| famubu | Jordan_U, doesn't have anything to which I can backup data or a fast enough internet. | 10:07 |
| Rockwood | Jordan_U, tengo tomreyn thanks cya | 10:07 |
| DocMors | famubu, maybe you should. running a version that old is not puttuing you in a good position and after 5 years it does make sense | 10:07 |
| DrManhattan | see whats up! | 10:08 |
| DrManhattan | you CAN always just blacklist the nvidia driver for a bit, go back to nouveau | 10:08 |
| DrManhattan | or see if nouveau has been accidentally installed :) | 10:08 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: Like I said, you can re-install while preserving /home/. | 10:08 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: And if you don't have a lot of bandwidth, upgrading 3 times is going to end up downloading more than 3 times the amount of data that installing fresh then re-installing whatever you want would take. | 10:10 |
| famubu | Jordan_U: True... :- | 10:10 |
| Kristine91 | DrManhattan how do I do that? | 10:10 |
| famubu | Jordan_U: How can I upgrade while keeping /home? | 10:11 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:11 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: You will be presented with the option to do so by the installer when it detects that you have an existing Ubuntu install. | 10:11 |
| famubu | Jordan_U: Great! I will do that then. | 10:12 |
| famubu | DocMors, Jordan_U : Thanks for your help! | 10:12 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, to blacklist nouveau https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-blacklist-nouveau-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux | 10:13 |
| DocMors | famubu, Jordan_U did the work | 10:14 |
| DrManhattan | it's the same process as 18.04 there | 10:14 |
| Kristine91 | lsmod | grep nouveau tried this, it didn't show anything | 10:14 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: You'll probably also want to wait until the 23rd and just install 20.04 . Give yourself an extra 2 years of support if you end up not wanting to upgrade for a long time again :) | 10:15 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, my assumption is it's the same to blacklist the nvidia module, but I wouldn't go doing any of that without stopping the GUI, unloading the nvidia module, purging and reinstalling, and then firing up the GUI again | 10:15 |
| DrManhattan | on my server I have to unload nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset, and nvidia in that order | 10:16 |
| Kristine91 | I'm a bit lost right now. So in my case what should I do next? | 10:17 |
| DrManhattan | stopping the GUI, unloading the nvidia module, purging and reinstalling, and then firing up the GUI again | 10:17 |
| DrManhattan | imho | 10:17 |
| Kristine91 | Do I need to also blacklist nouveau like the link you sent earlier? | 10:18 |
| DrManhattan | usually you do if you're installing the nvidia drivers manually. If you're using the nvidia additional drivers or the ppa it usually takes care of that | 10:18 |
| famubu | Jordan_U: Yeah, I hadn't realised the next LTS was so near. I'll wait a few more days. Thanks for the headsup. | 10:18 |
| famubu | Jordan_U: :-) | 10:19 |
| Kristine91 | Ok in that case, I'll skip for now I guess | 10:19 |
| DocMors | famubu, that is why I suggested to wait half a week ... | 10:19 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, do you know the commands to kill the GUI and unload modules? | 10:19 |
| DrManhattan | it's ok, I have a little time if you want a walkthrough | 10:19 |
| DrManhattan | we all start somewhere | 10:19 |
| Kristine91 | I don't tbh. | 10:20 |
| DrManhattan | it's all good | 10:20 |
| DrManhattan | this isn't #gentoo :)) | 10:20 |
| DrManhattan | I KID | 10:20 |
| DrManhattan | to start/stop the GUI: sudo systemctl start gdm3 or sudo systemctl stop gdm3 | 10:20 |
| DrManhattan | to remove a module you use sudo rmmod | 10:21 |
| Jordan_U | famubu: You're welcome :) | 10:21 |
| DrManhattan | so in your case sudo rmmod nvidia_drm then sudo rmmod nvidia_modeset then sudo rmmod nvidia | 10:21 |
| Kristine91 | Which module do I remove? | 10:22 |
| Kristine91 | Oh ok | 10:22 |
| DrManhattan | all three of the above | 10:22 |
| DrManhattan | then sudo apt purge nvidia* | 10:22 |
| Kristine91 | It says nvidia_drm is in use | 10:22 |
| Kristine91 | Error | 10:23 |
| DrManhattan | sudo systemctl stop gdm3 | 10:23 |
| Kristine91 | I did, it is it because I'm using terminal with Ctrl alt f3? | 10:24 |
| DrManhattan | no, the gui should be killed | 10:24 |
| Kristine91 | *or is it because | 10:24 |
| Kristine91 | I executed the command, didn't show any message. | 10:25 |
| DrManhattan | what does nvidia-smi say is using the GPU? | 10:25 |
| Kristine91 | There's no nvidia-smi | 10:25 |
| DrManhattan | ok then I'd sudo apt purge nvidia* and reboot | 10:26 |
| Kristine91 | Ok rebooting | 10:27 |
| DrManhattan | you should have some semblance of a functional GUI | 10:27 |
| DrManhattan | sudo apt purge nvidia* first | 10:27 |
| Kristine91 | Yes I did. I don't need to go terminal from recovery mode right? Just goto login screen and Ctrl alt f3 | 10:27 |
| DrManhattan | if you have a functional GUI, then you can go back into the regular GUI without having to exit it | 10:28 |
| DrManhattan | if you want | 10:28 |
| DrManhattan | if you get a black blank screen again, then we need to look at what modules are loading | 10:29 |
| Kristine91 | Oh wow, now I can successfully logged in | 10:29 |
| DrManhattan | do you know what video card your system has? | 10:30 |
| Kristine91 | So, it worked when I stopped gui, purged Nvidia and reboot? | 10:30 |
| DrManhattan | it gave you a GUI, you don't have full function of your GPU | 10:31 |
| DrManhattan | but you can work on it via the GUI, and you seem comfortable | 10:31 |
| Kristine91 | It has Intel uhd and Nvidia GeForce gtx 1050 if I'm not wrong | 10:31 |
| DrManhattan | with it | 10:31 |
| DrManhattan | oh, this is a laptop? | 10:31 |
| Kristine91 | Right | 10:31 |
| DrManhattan | ok, those dual GPU nvidia setups are notoriously tricky | 10:31 |
| DrManhattan | in linux | 10:32 |
| DrManhattan | they've been that way for a really long time | 10:32 |
| DrManhattan | usually you have to choose between one or the other if you don't want to take software based measures and switch between them | 10:32 |
| Kristine91 | I heard so. 😁 I installed Nvidia driver earlier. It worked but not with an external monitor. | 10:33 |
| DrManhattan | yeah it might not support it with that GPU, idk, it's always SOMETHING | 10:33 |
| Kristine91 | In previous laptop I was using bumblebee to use Nvidia for certain programs. I can switch if necessary. | 10:34 |
| oerheks | some laptops have a FN + [external/internal/both] key | 10:34 |
| Kristine91 | I just want it to work and with external monitor. | 10:34 |
| TheSilentLink | Hi is the raspberry pi 20.04 image releasing Friday too with the amd64 images? | 10:35 |
| Kristine91 | Yes, the switching key for monitor worked earlier but not after trying to fix monitor issue | 10:35 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, that might take a bit of fiddling. nvidia-settings might be helpful if the "displays" section of your system settings app doesn't yield results | 10:35 |
| Kristine91 | Yah later display settings stopped showing monitor | 10:37 |
| DrManhattan | I am at a loss here, the dual GPU has a few variables in play that make this a pretty deep dive | 10:38 |
| BluesKaj | TheSilentLink, google is your friend sometimes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule | 10:38 |
| DrManhattan | ie, which GPU is the second port connected to | 10:38 |
| raffa | Good after day, anyone with experience on remote connection to Ubuntu 19.10? The graphical variety ;) | 10:38 |
| TheSilentLink | BluesKaj: that doesn't mention the raspberry pi at all | 10:39 |
| BluesKaj | TheSilentLink, ask in #raspberrypi | 10:40 |
| TheSilentLink | ok but the image is officially supported by Ubuntu hence why I was asking here | 10:40 |
| stephpdale | DrManhattan looks like a nice person to talk to | 10:40 |
| stephpdale | :) | 10:41 |
| Jordan_U | TheSilentLink: The fact that there are daily builds being made suggests to me that it will likely be released at the same time. But that's far from an official statement. | 10:41 |
| DrManhattan | I like the community, would like to pay it forward a bit | 10:41 |
| Kristine91 | How can I check if it is connected to second port? | 10:41 |
| DrManhattan | I've learned a lot with ubuntu | 10:41 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, I don't know why it's not detecting and you'd have to go digging through dmidecode output most likely. It's not impossible, but it's not easy. I also think you might have to choose between dual monitors and dual GPUs | 10:43 |
| stephpdale | It's crazy to think that I started coming into #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic 8 years ago, when I was 12 or 13 years old, now I am almost 21 and I am still here | 10:43 |
| Kristine91 | 😁 I have learned a lot from you all too. I wouldn't be using Linux if it wasn't for all the help. | 10:43 |
| DrManhattan | you'd have to trade CUDA and NVENC for Quicksync basically, and 3d games if you play them | 10:44 |
| DrManhattan | or vice versa, trade quicksync for decent 3d and nvenc | 10:44 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, you could plug the second monitor in, enable one GPU at a time in the BIOS, and see if it detects with either | 10:45 |
| stephpdale | What's QuickSync? | 10:45 |
| DrManhattan | idk if you'd need a working nvidia driver for that | 10:45 |
| Kristine91 | Ah now it shows monitor in display and screen switching option. But it doesn't show screen but just the mouse cursor | 10:45 |
| DrManhattan | stephpdale, fast video encode/decode on intel GPUs | 10:46 |
| stephpdale | I learn things every day, yesterday I learnt that metal turns blue when it is getting cut and gets hot as my mum was taking out metal shavings that were stuck in the bottom of my feet like splinters | 10:46 |
| stephpdale | DrManhattan, Any reduction in quality? | 10:46 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, there should be options in there in mirroring/extend desktop and the such | 10:47 |
| DrManhattan | stephpdale, supposedly, but since the 10 series the quality is awesome, esp in hevc | 10:47 |
| DrManhattan | small size, super nice picture | 10:47 |
| stephpdale | I mean generally faster is worse when playing videos, not sure when encoding them though | 10:47 |
| Kristine91 | Right, but it only shows more cursor there | 10:48 |
| DrManhattan | the tradeoff in quality is minimal now compared to the speed difference | 10:48 |
| stephpdale | I always use No Hardware Acceleration, No Fast Seek, Full Video Deblocking, Forced OpenGL ES 2.0 | 10:48 |
| stephpdale | When watching movies | 10:48 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, I'm not sure where to go from here | 10:48 |
| Kristine91 | The external monitor is blank | 10:48 |
| TheSilentLink | Jordan_U: well I just tried the daily image and literally the USB ports don't work it just gives no USB controller error at startup | 10:48 |
| DrManhattan | stephpdale, I guess it depends on the setup :) | 10:49 |
| Kristine91 | DrManhattan thanks a lot for help | 10:49 |
| DrManhattan | you try that on a weak CPU with HEVC and it's going to be super choppy | 10:49 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, I am sorry I couldn't help more | 10:49 |
| DrManhattan | we got you a working GUI at least :) | 10:49 |
| stephpdale | DrManhattan, Yeah, need Quad Core at least 2.0 GHz for it to do it with 720p, a lot more with 1080p+ | 10:49 |
| DrManhattan | a 1050 SHOULD be able to run dual monitors without issue | 10:50 |
| stephpdale | TheSilentLink, Hmmm | 10:51 |
| * stephpdale has a lot of kernel flag experience as he has used Puppy Linux a lot\ | 10:51 | |
| Kristine91 | True. It showed wallpaper now when I increase it's hz but went blank again. | 10:52 |
| Kristine91 | But can't drag windows to that screen, how strange. | 10:54 |
| Jordan_U | TheSilentLink: #ubuntu+1 for 20.04 . | 10:55 |
| Kristine91 | I think I'll try to install Nvidia, if I get stuck I guess rmmod and purge Nvidia again | 10:55 |
| DrManhattan | Kristine91, don't expect it to work without that driver installed but I wouldn't expect to work alongside the intel driver without some work | 11:01 |
| DrManhattan | that particular hardware combo is ALWAYS a challenge | 11:01 |
| stephpdale | I can't find anything that could help USB controllers | 11:01 |
| DrManhattan | it would be nice to run one monitor on one and the external on the other | 11:02 |
| Kristine91 | True, I had this issue before with Dell Optimus | 11:02 |
| DrManhattan | yeah optimus was like that for me, I just ended up using the intel when the nvidia got outdated | 11:02 |
| DrManhattan | the next one I got I just got without the nvidia at all | 11:02 |
| DrManhattan | lenovo thinkpads w ubuntu are awesome | 11:03 |
| Kristine91 | While I was trying to install Nvidia driver, came across so many ways to do it. Which way is more stable? I tried adding opa, autoinstall and gui additional hardware driver. One of them messed it up | 11:04 |
| Kristine91 | *adding ppa | 11:04 |
| Kristine91 | Oh it's 7am here, I should wake up. I mean go-to sleep lol. See ya | 11:08 |
| TheSilentLink | the raspberry pi images uses cloud init why is this? | 11:31 |
| oerheks | cloud-init is a service, it is nice. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit | 11:38 |
| multifractal | Since the last big windows 10 update my PC lost its grub menu and thus ability to load ubuntu. Grub repair didn't work. What should I do? | 11:53 |
| oerheks | multifractal, is this an UEFI install? | 11:58 |
| oerheks | and what is the output of grub-repair? | 11:59 |
| multifractal | Master Boot Records by the looks of things http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZsY8nDVMNJ/ | 12:01 |
| oerheks | i do not see any linux partitions at all ..??? | 12:03 |
| oerheks | and line #13 Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. | 12:04 |
| multifractal | i shut windows down prior to this | 12:05 |
| multifractal | not hibernated | 12:05 |
| multifractal | maybe when win10 updated it re-enabled that "fast boot" feature or whatever | 12:09 |
| JadedJ | Is it possible to change to an older wifi driver on ubuntu 18? | 12:12 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: reading, 1sec | 12:19 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: are you booted in a live usb currently? | 12:20 |
| JadedJ | I'm currently using brcmsmac, version 4.15.0-96-generic | 12:20 |
| multifractal | EriC^^: yes | 12:21 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here | 12:21 |
| multifractal | I followed some tutorial to disavle fast-boot/hibernate thru the windows shell (because control panel doesn't let you do it properly sometimes) and the new grub-repair output didn't include that line about windows in hibernation mode that oerheks referred to. but it still failed https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bKFC6vYHMN/ | 12:22 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: ok, waiting on link | 12:29 |
| multifractal | EriC^^: termbin.com/jn3s | 12:30 |
| multifractal | the 2TB disk /dev/sda is the latest hard drive I installed - for files and whatnot. not the drive that the OSs are installed to | 12:31 |
| ioria | multifractal, maybe ubu was on the sdb4 extended, but i'am afraid is gone; you might try testdisk | 12:43 |
| doh | any idea if and how to share kubuntu's screen with a smart tv (miracast?) | 12:44 |
| doh | windows has this built in pretty much | 12:44 |
| multifractal | thanks, windows update | 12:49 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: checking | 12:50 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: it looks like the logical partitions in sdb are missing | 12:52 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: you could either try using testdisk to get their layout back, or if you have an old paste of parted's output or similar that'd be useful, or you could try guessing stuff and work your way back if all else fails | 12:54 |
| EriC^^ | multifractal: do you have an old paste of your partition table by any chance? | 12:54 |
| DocMors | OK I asked that on linux too but maybe somebody here has an idea. Is there any natove poker client for ubuntu and I'm talking NOT about anything done with wine. | 12:55 |
| JadedJ | I'm running Ubuntu 18 with no GUI, but I have an issue with my wifi card getting an IP address via DHCP during boot | 12:59 |
| JadedJ | It associates with the access point just fine, but it's not getting any IP info, because I'm pretty sure there is an issue with the dhclient service | 13:00 |
| Phruis | i found a bug i think in some kernel tool but i can't find where the bugs are listed for this piece of software | 13:16 |
| Phruis | cpufreq-set has a bug | 13:16 |
| Phruis | where is the bug tracker for that software? | 13:16 |
| Aryan | hi | 13:16 |
| tomreyn | doh: https://blogs.gnome.org/benzea/2019/01/30/gnome-screencast/ | 13:17 |
| Aryan | i noticed my ip has been changed after reboot ... | 13:17 |
| Phruis | Aryan: this is surprising? | 13:17 |
| tomreyn | doh: this seems to depend on gnome-shell 3.30 and network-manager 1.16 (amongst other), so it *may* be supported starting Ubuntu 19.10 | 13:18 |
| Aryan | Phruis: it's not my country IP address ... | 13:20 |
| Aryan | i think some vpn is running in background | 13:20 |
| Phruis | Aryan: look at your network manager | 13:20 |
| Phruis | did you install something? | 13:22 |
| multifractal | when windows make these updates do they deliberately set out to destroy people's linux partitions or it's just inepditude/carelessnesS? | 13:23 |
| Phruis | multifractal: probably | 13:23 |
| Aryan | Phruis: i tried some vpn's | 13:25 |
| Aryan | windscribe and outline | 13:25 |
| Phruis | well then did you uninstall those? | 13:26 |
| Phruis | Aryan: i recommend PIA by the way | 13:27 |
| Aryan | Phruis: no i didn't | 13:27 |
| Aryan | what is PIA | 13:27 |
| Aryan | ? | 13:27 |
| Phruis | private internet access | 13:28 |
| lotuspsychje | keep it ontopic please | 13:28 |
| Phruis | their Linux app is really good | 13:28 |
| Phruis | ok | 13:28 |
| Phruis | sorry | 13:28 |
| Aryan | what shoud I do ? | 13:28 |
| Aryan | :( | 13:28 |
| Phruis | use synaptic and find those packages you installed | 13:29 |
| Aryan | Phruis: i don't want to uninstall them | 13:29 |
| Phruis | then you need to get support from the VPN makers app | 13:29 |
| Aryan | Is there anyway to look for traffic and i don't know, find out what's going on ? | 13:30 |
| Phruis | yeah you can use netstat | 13:30 |
| Aryan | Phruis: https://termbin.com/h1kc | 13:33 |
| Aryan | do you have any idea ? | 13:34 |
| CrazySam | Is it "dig domain.tld any" or is it "dig domain.tld all"? Has the "any" option changed into "all" between version 9.10.3 and 9.11.3? | 14:16 |
| CrazySam | Or is it me losing my mind... | 14:16 |
| Aavar | Hi. I am having an issue with multiple lock screens. I have xfce4, gnome and unity installed (I know...). And whenever I return to my machine a first get one lockscreen and after unlovking i get the lightdm lockscreen. I would like to keep the lightdm-screen. Anyone know what can cause this? | 14:38 |
| Aavar | (I also actually have mate installed) | 14:39 |
| CrazySam | CrazySam: that's the right command, but you can't use 1.1.1.1 as DNS. | 14:40 |
| Aavar | I think it actually might be the mate-screensaver | 14:41 |
| CrazySam | @CrazySam: try dig domain.tld any @8.8.8.8 | 14:41 |
| CrazySam | Aavar: sounds like you caused this and you know it. ;) | 14:45 |
| CrazySam | It's a good advice not to pile on too many layers of software, just like you should not put on too many layers of clothes on sunny summer day. | 14:46 |
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| === pyre is now known as pyre_ | ||
| Deano59 | how can I tell what video driver I am using? | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | Deano59, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes | 15:29 |
| Deano59 | BluesKaj, Kernel driver in use: radeon | 15:30 |
| Deano59 | sec | 15:30 |
| Deano59 | I followed this https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux from part: add ppa. | 15:31 |
| Deano59 | but there wasn't no "/etc/X11/xorg.conf so I created it. is this right? | 15:31 |
| oerheks | Deano59, for what videocard? | 15:31 |
| Deano59 | yes. | 15:32 |
| Deano59 | oh | 15:32 |
| Deano59 | what.. | 15:32 |
| Deano59 | sec | 15:32 |
| Deano59 | it's a gpu based cpu, amd 5350 | 15:32 |
| oerheks | that url is about amdgpu-pro.. | 15:33 |
| oerheks | AMD Athlon 5350 ? | 15:33 |
| Deano59 | yeah | 15:33 |
| Deano59 | I added the ppa from that link. did I mess up? | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | Deano59, why don't you ask your real question, what's your issue with the gpu? | 15:33 |
| Deano59 | no issue, kinda; just want to know if it's at the best performance via drivers. :) | 15:34 |
| oerheks | it uses radeon, so not the newer amdgpu. likely there is no amdgpu-pro driver suitable for yours. | 15:34 |
| oerheks | amdgpu would be installed atomaticly | 15:35 |
| oerheks | so, you have the good driver already. | 15:35 |
| Deano59 | oerheks, as I suspected then... damn. just looking for ways to speed up my system. ;P | 15:36 |
| Deano59 | last drivers for my system was 2015 -.- lol | 15:40 |
| oerheks | radeon should work, youtube and so on | 15:41 |
| Deano59 | it does just a tad slow. | 15:42 |
| waveform | TheSilentLink, the pi images use cloud-init because they're based on the cloud images. The reason they're based on the cloud images is because they're pre-installed (i.e. you don't boot them on one medium then run through an installer to copy stuff to another medium) | 15:43 |
| Deano59 | AMD 5350, 8gb ddr3 1333mhz, 120gb SSD and 500GB HDD. my specs, could I improve it via software? drivers? installing something? arch is way too slow and windows is raping my cpu. | 15:43 |
| ioria | Deano59, it's a good quad core with R3; ram is ok and the ssd too; maybe just don't use gnome-shell (try budgie, mate, etc. etc.) | 15:45 |
| Deano59 | yeah I'm using i3-wm atm. | 15:45 |
| ioria | you're good | 15:45 |
| Deano59 | looking forward to 20.04 :) thanks again. ;P | 15:46 |
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| amitprakash | Why is ubuntu recognizing only 8 out of 16G ram? | 16:10 |
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| amitprakash | lshw outcome https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sntz8hhfYh/ | 16:11 |
| oerheks | amitprakash, ubuntu does not such thing, are you sure your motherboard/memory is oke? | 16:11 |
| oerheks | e.g. does your BIOS see it? | 16:12 |
| amitprakash | Yep, I can detect full 16G on gentoo as well as windows | 16:12 |
| amitprakash | Even lshw sees it | 16:12 |
| oerheks | yes, bank 2/4 | 16:12 |
| oerheks | whato deos free say | 16:12 |
| amitprakash | Otoh free -m -> Mem: 7886 2024 4874 158 987 5420 | 16:12 |
| amitprakash | Thats 8G total | 16:13 |
| EriC^^ | amitprakash: anything in dmesg? | 16:13 |
| amitprakash | Lots of AERs but that's ryzen in general | 16:13 |
| oerheks | any funky videocard that takes 8 gb shared?never heard of any | 16:14 |
| amitprakash | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vDShNDB4qZ/ | 16:14 |
| oerheks | Focal? | 16:14 |
| amitprakash | Nope, running a dedicated GPU with 8G VRAM, that is detected fine | 16:14 |
| amitprakash | yes, Focal | 16:14 |
| oerheks | oh, dedicated 8g can have a shadow over normal ram too.. | 16:14 |
| oerheks | but please, join #ubuntu+1 for this | 16:15 |
| amitprakash | Aight, thanks | 16:15 |
| amitprakash | FWIW btw, all ram modules are running custom XMP profiles | 16:16 |
| EriC^^ | amitprakash: maybe the Registered nosave memory in the log has something to do with it? | 16:19 |
| amitprakash | Will try rebooting, Memory: 7899520K/8317132K available (14339K kernel code, 2397K rwdata, 4948K rodata, 2712K init, 4992K bss, 417612K reserved, 0K cma-reserved) | 16:19 |
| amitprakash | That shows bios allowing only 8G | 16:19 |
| vimart | Hi | 16:29 |
| raffa | Hi, anyone have any experience getting VNC to work on 19.10? I've tried a plethora of Googled suggestions and all I ended up with was RDP (which is super slow and super annoying). | 16:37 |
| tomreyn | raffa: is this ubuntu 19.10 connecting to ubuntu 19.10, or something else? did oyu try the (gnome) integrated vino server? which clients did you try, vinagre? | 16:55 |
| raffa | Windows to Ubuntu. Just been trying the built in VNC | 16:56 |
| raffa | I tried a few clients on the Windows machine, last of which being VNC Viewer | 16:58 |
| grawity | at which bit does it stop working | 16:58 |
| tomreyn | most windows clients don't support the vnc encryption vino uses. so you need to either find one which does or disable it and tunnel through ssh instead | 16:59 |
| tomreyn | turbovnc is supposed to support it | 17:00 |
| sufy | hi i am having trouble getting my rtl8192ce card to stay going in ubuntu 20.04 | 17:00 |
| sufy | firmware-realtek doens't seem to cut it, works okay on another OS | 17:00 |
| sufy | suggestions it is power management keeps turning off with that disabled though so thinking something else this instance | 17:01 |
| raffa | Initially it stopped during the connection process complaining about the encryption | 17:01 |
| raffa | then tried tighvnc server on the Ubuntu machine and could connect, but only got a grey screen every time | 17:01 |
| sufy | going to reboot to try another thing hold replies | 17:02 |
| tomreyn | so use vino on the server, keep encryption enabled, and use the matching turbovnc .exe on the windows client https://sourceforge.net/projects/turbovnc/files/2.2.4/ | 17:02 |
| tomreyn | source of this information: https://github.com/TigerVNC/tigervnc/issues/307#issuecomment-264913822 | 17:04 |
| raffa | Ok, just installed it and trying to connect but it also doesn't want to ... connecting via RDP just to make sure I left VNC on | 17:07 |
| mfilipe[m] | i'm using terminal with 20.04 and i wanna change the tab title but gnome-terminal doesn't show this option up. when i use fedora 32, it shows (same gnome-terminal version 3.36). do you guys know what is wrong? | 17:08 |
| lotuspsychje | mfilipe[m]: join #ubuntu+1 please | 17:08 |
| mfilipe[m] | lotuspsychje: thanks | 17:09 |
| raffa | I did turn the encryption off earlier, would that make a difference? | 17:12 |
| tomreyn | yes, it would turn off encryption. | 17:13 |
| woenx | Hi everyone. I have a question, but I don't know if it's a bit offtopic. I am trying to calibrate my screen and my scanner in order to digitize some family photo albums. I found a way to calibrate my screen by creating a color profile (using a hardware colorimeter) and import it into the color settings in Ubuntu. However, I can't find an option to use profiles for a flatbed scanner. Is that even possible? | 17:16 |
| raffa | I meant would the Turbo VNC client not connect if encryption was off on the server? I don't see any options relating to encryption on it | 17:16 |
| grawity | not sure if it's in the UI, but it can be found under `dconf-editor org.gnome.Vino` or `gsettings get org.gnome.Vino require-encryption` | 17:18 |
| grawity | (wouldn't trust Vino's anon-TLS with my data tbh; I prefer disabling it and relying on VPN instead – then I get a broader range of compatible clients as well) | 17:18 |
| raffa | thanks, using dconf-editor now to re-enable the encryption .. darn RDP is so slooooooow | 17:19 |
| raffa | I always connect via a VPN so I'm not overly concerned with the additional encryption, at this point I would just like to be able to connect with something other than RDP 😅 | 17:21 |
| a90c | hi | 17:29 |
| littlewaiter | Hi all - I want to find the user of a running process. The catch is, I can only retrieve this through reading files through the process. Any ideas? | 17:29 |
| tomreyn | littlewaiter: why this limitation? | 17:29 |
| oerheks | ps aux | grep <proces> # should give a list/name | 17:30 |
| woenx | Any ideas about calibrating flatbed scanner? | 17:30 |
| littlewaiter | Can't execute, only read | 17:31 |
| a90c | when i try to install something, i get "install python-minimal" package but when i try to install it, i get "E: unable to locate python-minimal" | 17:31 |
| a90c | how to fix this? | 17:31 |
| littlewaiter | Final stage of an exploit I'm trying to write | 17:31 |
| tomreyn | try #security or ##linux if they support such | 17:31 |
| oerheks | a90c, on what ubuntu version? | 17:31 |
| littlewaiter | Thanks | 17:31 |
| a90c | oerheks: 18.04 | 17:32 |
| grawity | woenx: I'm not sure how SANE handles this stuff, but I think you can always apply a color profile later to the image?... | 17:32 |
| woenx | I'm looking into that. Maybe there's a way to scan a color chart, and create a color profile based on that? | 17:33 |
| oerheks | !info python-minimal bionic | 17:33 |
| ubottu | python-minimal (source: python-defaults): minimal subset of the Python language (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.15~rc1-1 (bionic), package size 27 kB, installed size 145 kB | 17:33 |
| oerheks | should be there.. | 17:33 |
| woenx | also, these charts are expensive.... u_u' | 17:33 |
| oerheks | a90c, can you paste the output of what you are trying to install? | 17:33 |
| oerheks | paste.ubuntu.com | 17:33 |
| oerheks | woenx, in systemsettings there is a profile section, maybe it is not automatic set? | 17:34 |
| oerheks | systemsettings > devices > colour | 17:35 |
| woenx | there you can set profiles for the monitor | 17:35 |
| a90c | oerheks: i tried to install python-minimal package, because whatever i wanted to install, it was saying "install python-minimal package" | 17:35 |
| oerheks | woenx, monitor, printers, maybe scanners too | 17:35 |
| woenx | (I tried it and apparently it works, but the problem is that my scaner is somewhat oversaturated, and even if my monitor displays a good color, the scanned picture needs to be adjusted | 17:35 |
| pavlos | a90c: sudo apt install python-minimal | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:36 |
| tomreyn | that's loose stderr | 17:36 |
| tomreyn | * that would | 17:36 |
| woenx | so instead of manually adjusting the color in my pictures using Gimp, I could calibrate my scanner so my scans already show a near-true color | 17:36 |
| oerheks | https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/color-calibrate-scanner.html.en | 17:37 |
| woenx | Mmmm, my scanner does not appear there, just my two screens... | 17:37 |
| woenx | Wait, I'm using Unity instead of gnome, maybe it's because of that? | 17:37 |
| woenx | (a screen capture of that menu would have been helpful...) | 17:37 |
| oerheks | i think it is gnome only .. | 17:38 |
| woenx | ahm, I'll restart my session in gnome | 17:38 |
| woenx | brb | 17:38 |
| raffa | @tomreyn, Turbo is telling me it can't connect almost immediately after clicking connect. what is the Vino service called so I can check if it is actually running | 17:39 |
| oerheks | !info argyll | 17:39 |
| ubottu | argyll (source: argyll): Color Management System, calibrator and profiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1+repack-1 (eoan), package size 7053 kB, installed size 103843 kB | 17:39 |
| oerheks | maybe this is a help | 17:39 |
| tomreyn | a90c: this would produce three links providing (likely) relevant program output which you can share with us: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; apt-cache policy 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; apt-cache policy python-minimal 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:39 |
| tomreyn | raffa: i don't think it's a systemd service, but it should be called "vino" as a process. | 17:40 |
| oerheks | wb woenx | 17:40 |
| oerheks | just posted: | 17:40 |
| oerheks | !info argyll | 17:40 |
| ubottu | argyll (source: argyll): Color Management System, calibrator and profiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1+repack-1 (eoan), package size 7053 kB, installed size 103843 kB | 17:40 |
| tomreyn | raffa: you enable it using settings -> sharing -> on (on the title bar) | 17:41 |
| woenx | Mmmm, no, the meny is slightly different, but there is no "calibrate"option | 17:41 |
| woenx | just my two screens, and the ability to change their profile | 17:41 |
| woenx | and nothing about scanners | 17:41 |
| tomreyn | raffa: and then "screen sharing" | 17:41 |
| oerheks | try argyll | 17:42 |
| raffa | Yep that's right | 17:42 |
| YeOldHinnerk | hi. does anyone use the universal media server here and has experienced issue with some mp3 not showing up? | 17:42 |
| raffa | also checked via dconf-editor | 17:42 |
| pennTeller | Hi guys, does anyone know of an open source virtual assistant that works on Ubuntu? Preferably GPL licensed. | 17:42 |
| YeOldHinnerk | related questions: which media server can you recommend to run on ubuntu 18? | 17:43 |
| DrManhattan | plex | 17:44 |
| pavlos | raffa: the process name is vino-server | 17:44 |
| DrManhattan | love me some plex | 17:44 |
| oerheks | plex is prop and payware :-( | 17:44 |
| woenx | YeOldHinnerk: exactly, what do you mean by media server? | 17:44 |
| YeOldHinnerk | some dlna server | 17:47 |
| raffa | Thanks pavlos ... ran ps aux | grep -i vino-server and it shows up so it's definitely running, right? | 17:47 |
| YeOldHinnerk | i use universal media server 9.4.1 | 17:47 |
| YeOldHinnerk | which (at the time I checked, which is quite a while ago) seemed like the most flexible non-commercial solution | 17:48 |
| YeOldHinnerk | however, some mp3 are just not showing up | 17:48 |
| YeOldHinnerk | I verfied the files are ok with ffmpeg | 17:48 |
| YeOldHinnerk | well, at least as far as I can see, since i don't know too much about it | 17:49 |
| woenx | I ran minidlna some time ago, and it seemed to be working fine | 17:49 |
| woenx | (I had a tv that could only see shared media using dlna) | 17:49 |
| woenx | and mp3 music worked just fine | 17:49 |
| woenx | I used it in debian (6.0), but I can't see why it shouldn't work in ubuntu | 17:50 |
| YeOldHinnerk | I have a Yamaha R-N500, it also behaves like that (shared media using dlna) | 17:50 |
| woenx | (and the tv was a LG) | 17:50 |
| YeOldHinnerk | but i verified it is not the renderer | 17:50 |
| YeOldHinnerk | i check via ums web interface | 17:50 |
| YeOldHinnerk | files are missing there also | 17:50 |
| YeOldHinnerk | could this also be an mp3 issue? | 17:50 |
| YeOldHinnerk | maybe something about the rate? | 17:50 |
| YeOldHinnerk | Many of those files I encoded myself using lame and some bitrate which may be non-standard or so. | 17:51 |
| YeOldHinnerk | Don't know it that could be an issue. | 17:51 |
| woenx | I would try that one, minidlna, it worked for me | 17:52 |
| woenx | and it was pretty simple, you just indicated where you stored music and videos in a text configuration file, and how often did you want it to scan for new content. | 17:52 |
| jjakob | Anyone here familiar with the ubiquity installer? Where does it store the installation steps? | 17:54 |
| jjakob | I want to know what it does after grub-install, because it's failing at that step, but I managed to install grub by hand, so I want to do the steps by hand. | 17:55 |
| woenx | brb | 17:55 |
| tomreyn | raffa: yes, it's running then. by the way i just tried to connect to a vino server with encryption enabled from a windows 10 system running turbovnc 2.2.4 and it reported that the other end uses an unknown security type. so i guess this (that tigervnc supports vino's encryption) is incorrect information. | 17:56 |
| tomreyn | that's vino on 18.04 LTS | 17:56 |
| ioria | jjakob, have you checked /var/log/installer/ ? | 17:56 |
| tomreyn | s/tugervnc/turbovnc/ | 17:57 |
| jjakob | ioria: too late, already rebooted, but the install doesn't boot, so I'm chrooted back into it | 17:58 |
| raffa | Ah ok, so Vino is gonna be a no-go for Windows to Ubuntu | 17:58 |
| tomreyn | raffa: oh i have to revise this statement. turbovnc comes in two forms, a native C and a java client. the latter supports the encryption. | 17:58 |
| raffa | tomreyn: just tried the java version and it took a bit longer but also came back with a message (Could not connect: Connection refused: no further information) | 18:01 |
| tomreyn | raffa: "connection refused" sounds like vino wasn't running, or not on the ip address you provided. | 18:02 |
| tomreyn | raffa: this is not related to the issue you're working on now, but will be relevant after that: you will need to set and require a password on the vino settings. | 18:03 |
| AppXprt | whoever maintains the ubuntu distro... you should remote transmission-gtk because it doesn't work and never starts downloading and switch to deluge... Tried to download Bodhi 5.1.0 and transmission wouldn't even start downloading after multiple minutes... Tried with Deluge and it was 30% after 5 seconds... | 18:04 |
| AppXprt | remove* | 18:04 |
| tomreyn | raffa: that's because the vino option of "new connections must ask for access" did not seem to result in a visible prompt on the ubuntu 18.04. | 18:04 |
| Kali_Yuga | Hello I have a question about a driver. I am trying to help someone over teamviewer and I am not sure which the correct driver is, He has an old Nvidia Geforce 620 https://i.imgur.com/yR0IsTD.png ? | 18:05 |
| tomreyn | AppXprt: you cuold file a !bug report on this or discuss the topic in #ubuntu-discuss | 18:05 |
| raffa | tomreyn: I saw the passwords you mentioned in the dconf settings as well as the gui and configured both .. also set it to auto exept | 18:06 |
| oerheks | Kali_Yuga, choose the 340 | 18:06 |
| AppXprt | well, whatever, if you want to keep shipping a broken torrent client that's not my problem I guess, but it has been the default for MANY releases now and no one realized it was broken the entire time for years? | 18:06 |
| AppXprt | whatever | 18:06 |
| raffa | ps. I just found some ssh setting in the Turbo client and entered the servers details ... got as far as it asking for a password and asking me to verify the key ... but then just said connection closed | 18:07 |
| YeOldHinnerk | woenx Works like a charm with minidlna and no files missing. | 18:07 |
| woenx | good to know :) | 18:07 |
| YeOldHinnerk | now i'm really surprised, ums does not show them | 18:07 |
| YeOldHinnerk | it certainly is not about the files, permissions, .... | 18:07 |
| woenx | however, I remember that sometimes it didn't refresh the library when it was supposed to, so I had to run a command to manually refresh it, but only happened from time to time. | 18:07 |
| woenx | (every few months) | 18:08 |
| Kali_Yuga | oerheks: but the other one sais tested? so that's kinda confusing me. but the other is binary driver... | 18:08 |
| YeOldHinnerk | well, this is huge progress for me, i can live with restarting the service every now and then | 18:08 |
| YeOldHinnerk | thank you | 18:08 |
| Kali_Yuga | oerheks: I don't know the difference, I think before I went with the 390 on his.. but I guess I go with the 340 then, hope I won't cause a black screen | 18:09 |
| woenx | you are welcome | 18:09 |
| woenx | by the way, someone has already tried ubuntu 20.04LTS? | 18:09 |
| woenx | i want to know if the gnome interface is snappier than in ubuntu 18.04 (which was so laggy that I had to go back to Unity) | 18:09 |
| jarnos | Anyone using Xenial still? Does 'dpkg -l | grep -q .' produce broken pipe error message there? | 18:12 |
| tomreyn | jarnos: is this ubuntu on linux or ubuntu bash on windows (WSL)? | 18:16 |
| jarnos | tomreyn, on linux in Bash shell, but should it matter? | 18:17 |
| tomreyn | should not, but may. | 18:17 |
| tomreyn | have you tried this on y tty? | 18:17 |
| tomreyn | * on a tty | 18:17 |
| jarnos | tomreyn, no, just terminal emulator, but I am not running Xenial. | 18:18 |
| tomreyn | jarnos: i just ran it on a 16.04 LTS amd64 VM on gnome-terminal and there was no error. | 18:21 |
| amitprakash | @EriC^^, oerheks resolved finally, had to reseat RAM | 18:22 |
| jarnos | tomreyn, thanks for testing. I was just trying to reproduce this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux-purge/+bug/1865158 | 18:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1865158 in linux-purge "Broken pipe due to grep -q" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:24 |
| EriC^^ | amitprakash: ah great | 18:25 |
| oerheks | good find.. | 18:25 |
| amitprakash | I am not sure what happened b/w the reboot, but somehow ram was gone everywhere | 18:26 |
| jjakob | AppXprt: maybe you didn't open the port from outside and deluge somehow works withput that | 18:29 |
| tomreyn | jarnos: nice utility, i didn't know it so far. | 18:30 |
| jjakob | Well, GRUB crashes if I set BIOS mem size for framebuffer larger than 64MB. That's a few hours of diagnosing GRUB down the drain. | 18:30 |
| jjakob | Set it to "64MB+2MB for GTT" and it works | 18:31 |
| jjakob | I wasted 2 f***ing hours thinking it was the problem of LUKS or something | 18:32 |
| jjakob | chrooted into it at least 3 times | 18:32 |
| compdoc | That seens odd | 18:32 |
| compdoc | seems | 18:32 |
| jarnos | tomreyn, thanks | 18:33 |
| jjakob | I'll try setting it back to 256MB to see if it crashes again | 18:33 |
| jjakob | woenx: just booted up a fresh install of 20.04, uses 686MB RAM right after login | 18:35 |
| woenx | my ubuntu 18.04 uses more than 2GB or ram right after login... | 18:35 |
| woenx | my main problem, though, was the "start menu" (however it's called in ubuntu) | 18:36 |
| jjakob | I can't judge the lagginess as it depends on the hardware (this is a i5 with 12G RAM so it doesn't have lag problems) | 18:36 |
| woenx | in unity, you clicked it and open immediately | 18:36 |
| woenx | in gnome, it starts an animation that lasts 1 to 2 seconds | 18:36 |
| jjakob | when you press the super key? (Windows logo)? | 18:36 |
| woenx | the thing is, I have an i5 8th gen with 8gb ram, and a core2duo with 4gb of ram that i bought 11 years ago | 18:36 |
| woenx | ubuntu 18.04 was faster with unity in my core2duo, than gnome in my i5 | 18:37 |
| woenx | (i tried them side by side) | 18:37 |
| woenx | menus, windows lagging, etc | 18:37 |
| woenx | and of course, it's not a driver issue | 18:37 |
| woenx | Unity was much snappier | 18:37 |
| jjakob | Yeah, it displays instantly here (with a short animation a few hundred ms) | 18:37 |
| woenx | yep, when I press the super key, or I click on the icon | 18:37 |
| woenx | I am now installing ubuntu 20.04 in a virtual machine, to try for myself | 18:37 |
| jjakob | Do you have any nonstandard drivers installed for your gfx? | 18:37 |
| woenx | no, just the official nvidia drivers (on both computers) | 18:38 |
| jjakob | Animations depend heavily on gfx | 18:38 |
| woenx | but I could play games on steam just fine, I don't think it was a driver issue | 18:38 |
| woenx | just that the animations lagged a little | 18:38 |
| woenx | (both laptops have a nvidia dedicated gpu) | 18:38 |
| woenx | I just don't understand why everyone thought Unity was the worse and gnome was the holy grail... | 18:39 |
| demonspork | Unity was bad | 18:39 |
| woenx | for me it really affected performance | 18:39 |
| woenx | but why? i am using it right now | 18:39 |
| woenx | visually speaking, there's almost no difference with how ubuntu uses gnome | 18:40 |
| woenx | uses less ram, and is more responsive | 18:40 |
| demonspork | my first time using Unity when it came out was loading it on a CR48 Chromebook (the original demo one) and it performed significantly worse than previous releases | 18:40 |
| demonspork | maybe that has changed over the years | 18:40 |
| woenx | I don't know... | 18:40 |
| demonspork | but it was bad at the beginning | 18:40 |
| woenx | Actually, i tried Kde, and it was faster than gnome too | 18:40 |
| woenx | (I actually was able to install kde in a raspberry pi 4, and it wasn't that bad) | 18:41 |
| demonspork | so bad I haven't hardly given it the time of day, but mint has been my go-to since unity became a thing | 18:41 |
| woenx | but gnome... it lags... | 18:41 |
| woenx | mint was good, but i just like the default ubuntu interface | 18:41 |
| demonspork | I use gnome on raspbian with multiple generations of raspberry pies and it has been great | 18:41 |
| woenx | and gnome and unity just look alike... so I choose the faster one | 18:41 |
| woenx | I don't know, I'll try it now with 20.04 to see if it has improved | 18:42 |
| demonspork | Maybe i will try Unity again. Did Ubuntu default back to knome or are they still using Unity? | 18:42 |
| demonspork | gnome* | 18:42 |
| woenx | oh, they have been using gnome officially for at least two years now | 18:42 |
| jjakob | I liked the older unity better than Gnome too when it first switched. But I think they're improving things (or I'm getting used to it...) | 18:42 |
| demonspork | I have been mostly out of this game because my work life revolves around a few LOB applications that run Windows Only | 18:42 |
| woenx | the thing is that unity is still being maintained by some developers (but nothing official), so it's really easy to install it | 18:42 |
| demonspork | have a small linux server farm, but all debian | 18:42 |
| demonspork | I miss the wubi installer | 18:43 |
| demonspork | :( | 18:43 |
| jjakob | The installer is buggy and horrible. They even managed to make the netinstall (debian-installer) have a bug | 18:44 |
| jjakob | Look at launchpad bug #1773457 | 18:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1773457 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Full-system encryption needs to be supported out-of-the-box including /boot and should not delete other installed systems" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1773457 | 18:44 |
| jjakob | neat | 18:45 |
| woenx | what is wubi? | 18:45 |
| demonspork | wubi was an "instlal in windows" option that would basically create some sort of virtual disk image inside your NTFS partition, and had a bootloader that would load the virtual disk from there and boot your system | 18:46 |
| demonspork | so you didn't have to repartition your box to run ubuntu basically natively | 18:46 |
| demonspork | not exactly sure all the technical details, i just remember how easy it was | 18:46 |
| demonspork | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi | 18:47 |
| demonspork | I seem to recall it doesn't work anymore | 18:47 |
| demonspork | I think I wanted to do it a few years ago | 18:47 |
| demonspork | but the page doesn't say anything about it not working | 18:47 |
| demonspork | of course it only mentions windows 7 | 18:48 |
| demonspork | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(software) wikipedia gives more details | 18:48 |
| theshagg | How do I display the terminal during shutdown? | 18:50 |
| theshagg | I hit ctrl+alt+f3 to switch to terminal mode, then did "sudo shutdown now", and it went to a gui/bios screen | 18:51 |
| theshagg | I can't even figure out a good way to search for this on Google | 18:55 |
| oerheks | theshagg, interesting, what would you do with terminal during shutdown? | 18:57 |
| theshagg | I just want to see why shutdown is locking up | 19:00 |
| theshagg | I'm having all kinds of issues with the focal beta | 19:01 |
| theshagg | although I had similar issues with fedora as well | 19:01 |
| ioria | theshagg, boot in text mode, and you'll get a text shutdown; or logout from the gui session, switch to console, stop gdm and shudown now | 19:03 |
| woenx | ok, in a virtual machine, ubuntu 20.04 uses 779mb of ram after login (on the first boot, and after launching htop) | 19:07 |
| tomreyn | Unless this is support Q&A, could you move the discussion to #ubuntu-discuss ? | 19:08 |
| theshagg | ioria, I did "ctrl + alt + f3", "sudo systemctl stop gdm3", "sudo shutdown now", but it still kicked me to the shutdown screen | 19:12 |
| theshagg | the screen I am seeing is the bios screen with "ubuntu" superimposed at the bottom | 19:12 |
| theshagg | and the system seems hung at that screen | 19:12 |
| ioria | theshagg, sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target | 19:13 |
| ioria | theshagg, and reboot | 19:14 |
| theshagg | ioria, I'm not sure what that is supposed to do but I got a nice shutdown that time | 19:16 |
| theshagg | ioria, after unlocking luks I have a blank screen | 19:16 |
| ioria | theshagg, you should have a login prompt (in tty) | 19:17 |
| theshagg | huh, i hit ctrl+alt+f3 and now I have terminal | 19:17 |
| ioria | theshagg, right, sudo halt -p | 19:17 |
| theshagg | ioria when I do sudo halt -p I get the graphical shutdown screen again (bios with ubuntu logo superimposed) | 19:20 |
| theshagg | I should note that this is 20.0 | 19:20 |
| theshagg | 20.04 | 19:20 |
| ioria | theshagg, sudo nano /etc/default/grub/ and remove quiet splash | 19:20 |
| ioria | theshagg, and sudo update-grub | 19:21 |
| ioria | theshagg, sy, i mean /etc/default/grub | 19:22 |
| theshagg | ioria - got it, I think that does what I want | 19:26 |
| ioria | theshagg, ok | 19:26 |
| theshagg | ioria now I need to catch it locking up | 19:27 |
| theshagg | ioria, would i set the target back to graphical to undo the multi-user.target? | 19:28 |
| ioria | theshagg, you reveret it with sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target and adding again 'quiet splash' | 19:28 |
| theshagg | right, thanks for your help :) | 19:29 |
| ioria | no prob | 19:29 |
| tomreyn | if you rebooted since, cat /proc/cmdline should no longer say "quiet splash" now | 19:29 |
| tomreyn | also note that 20.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 until release | 19:30 |
| theshagg | tomreyn, AH good to know | 19:30 |
| alexeightsix | When I restart my computer It doesn't boot into Ubuntu automatically, it boots into a grub console and i always need to type "exit" to get it to boot into Ubuntu or windows. how cna i fix this | 19:44 |
| woenx | Ok, one question. If i download and isntall the ubuntu 20.04 beta today, and i keep it updated, will it be the same thing as having the final version once it releases? | 19:44 |
| woenx | or will it be always a "beta"? | 19:45 |
| woenx | alexeightsix: maybe the computer is not booting into the correct partition where grub is? | 19:45 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, can you access the ubuntu box ? | 19:45 |
| alexeightsix | @ioria, what is the ubuntu box? | 19:46 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, the ubuntu install | 19:46 |
| alexeightsix | yes, when i type exit in the grub console it brings me to the screen where you can select the OS you want to boot into, ubuntu, windows etc. | 19:46 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, run 'sudo update-grub' | 19:47 |
| alexeightsix | that will fix it? | 19:47 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, idk, paste the output | 19:48 |
| alexeightsix | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/alexeightsix/a4ff846a75988223eec0859a5c8f4bfc/raw/1b80a5057425217b8dba832eeadbbb3dbaaab02c/gistfile1.txt | 19:48 |
| oerheks | woenx, #ubuntu+1 please | 19:48 |
| woenx | ahhh, I had no idea of this channel | 19:49 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:50 |
| kevr | woenx: it should, unless they change something about the installer that does some special shit | 19:50 |
| kevr | however... if you have to depend on the ubuntu computer for work or anything, i'd definitely suggest not going beta | 19:51 |
| alexeightsix | @ioria https://termbin.com/odyw | 19:51 |
| oOBadDreamOo | does anyone in here have any experience with xbox one controllers on ubuntu? | 19:53 |
| woenx | It will be released next friday, right? | 19:53 |
| kostkon | oOBadDreamOo, ask the real question regardless | 19:53 |
| oOBadDreamOo | ok | 19:54 |
| oOBadDreamOo | my wireless xbox one controllers connects and works fine but the guide button opens firefox and takes me to the desktop instead of focusing steam. if the button is held it opens multiple browser windows and eventually locks up the system | 19:55 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, is that a fresh install ? | 19:56 |
| alexeightsix | @ioria, no, it's been like this for months, only getting around to trying to fix it now | 19:56 |
| alexeightsix | the issue happened when i did an ugprade i think months ago, maybe over a year i dont remember | 19:57 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, well, Windows is installed in legacy-mode, Ubuntu in UEFI-mode ; this might cause a confusion (but with different disksit should work) | 19:59 |
| oOBadDreamOo | steam issues and controller issues arent super common for ubuntu...hard to find any help for this | 19:59 |
| ioria | alexeightsix, btw, you can reinstall grub on /dev/sdc | 20:01 |
| alexeightsix | ok thx | 20:01 |
| alexeightsix | will look into it | 20:01 |
| jjakob | Is the way to change GRUB's keyboard layout still via grub-kbdcomp file? | 20:14 |
| jjakob | in 20.04, grub 2.04 | 20:15 |
| i-node | hello, what is the precedence order in network config? I have a /etc/systemd/network/ens190.network file with the network configuration, but something is ovewriting the /etc/resolv.conf file with nameserver 127.0.0.53 | 20:25 |
| kenperkins | ok, really confused; somehow my sound all the of sudden is reversed? (left/right) | 20:26 |
| shibboleth | i-node, netplan, dnsmasq, networkmanager | 20:27 |
| shibboleth | iirc there is a resolvconf package | 20:28 |
| i-node | I don't understand the need of so much different packages | 20:29 |
| tomreyn | i-node: it may be cloud-init getting in the way | 20:33 |
| i-node | tomreyn: I am doing a cat /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml and there is nameservers: addresses: - 10.0.0.1 | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | and i'd expect files in /etc/systemd/network/ to be aprsed in alphanumerical order, numbers first, then letters. | 20:34 |
| i-node | but after reboot there is no 10.0.0.1 on resolv.conf | 20:34 |
| i-node | no results for grep 127 */* from /etc/systemd | 20:35 |
| i-node | I don't know from where it is getting the nameserver 127.0.0.53 | 20:35 |
| i-node | well, the resolv.conf file says that it was populated by systemd-resolved but when I do a systemd-resolve --status it shows 10.0.0.1 as dns server | 20:36 |
| tomreyn | make sure you read the /ETC/RESOLV.CONF section in systemd-resolved.service(8) | 20:36 |
| pavlos | i-node: I think systemd-resolve --status reports the proper DNS server and domain | 20:37 |
| tomreyn | and 127.0.0.53 is dnsmasq, i would think | 20:37 |
| i-node | ok, thank you | 20:38 |
| Arethusa | when I hit "install package" for chrome, gdebi just disappears and nothing apparent happens | 20:39 |
| === halvors1 is now known as halvors | ||
| lestac | hello! before i format, i have an option in up bar for see the weather, any knows what is that app/gadget ? | 20:55 |
| oerheks | gnome-shell-weather extention, iirc | 20:57 |
| oerheks | !info gnome-shell-extension-openweather | 20:58 |
| ubottu | Package gnome-shell-extension-openweather does not exist in eoan | 20:58 |
| oerheks | !info gnome-shell-extension-openweather bionic | 20:58 |
| oerheks | it does.. | 20:58 |
| ubottu | Package gnome-shell-extension-openweather does not exist in bionic | 20:59 |
| oerheks | yes it does, ubottu | 20:59 |
| Pinkerton | so would anyone here happen to be at MIT? or know where I could find someone who is? | 20:59 |
| kevr | !info gnome-shell-extension-weather | 20:59 |
| ubottu | gnome-shell-extension-weather (source: gnome-shell-extension-weather): weather extension for GNOME Shell. In component universe, is extra. Version 0~20170402.git34506a6-2 (eoan), package size 84 kB, installed size 568 kB | 20:59 |
| Pinkerton | just asking here since I figure odds are half decent | 20:59 |
| kevr | Pinkerton: Why? | 21:00 |
| Pinkerton | this file, specifically https://downloads.mit.edu/released/falcon/CrowdstrikeFalconSensor_5.29.11003.0.pkg.zip | 21:00 |
| Pinkerton | My company's VPN endpoint won't serve our version, for some reason | 21:00 |
| pavlos | Pinkerton: mit.edu allows you to search for people | 21:00 |
| Pinkerton | If I had the package I have the tools to reprovision it with my license | 21:00 |
| Pinkerton | but according to the VPN client's logs, the version of the package on the server does not pass checksum requirements and is much too small | 21:01 |
| Pinkerton | this sometimes happens but on a weekday usually | 21:02 |
| Pinkerton | pavlos ty ty | 21:02 |
| Pinkerton | being the one guy with a bring-your-own-device Mac on the team is a real interesting experience sometimes | 21:04 |
| Pinkerton | annoyingly our internal portal has the sensor installer for Linux and Windows hosts just available to download if the VPN fails to fetch it | 21:04 |
| mrbell1984 | BYOD support it yourself. lol Here's the wifi password buy ya own software. | 21:05 |
| Pinkerton | There's certain software you have to install to connect to the network | 21:05 |
| Pinkerton | is the problem | 21:05 |
| kevr | gross | 21:05 |
| Pinkerton | I agree | 21:06 |
| Pinkerton | I bought the computer for this specific purpose knowing that going in though | 21:06 |
| Pinkerton | So I'm not upset | 21:06 |
| kevr | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs | 21:06 |
| Pinkerton | Us BYOD guys just sometimes get left out on stuff like this | 21:06 |
| kevr | tell the cs professor to get good | 21:06 |
| mrbell1984 | I always used my own device but supported it myself | 21:06 |
| Pinkerton | I'm not actually at MIT, kevr | 21:07 |
| Pinkerton | They just use the same sensor software as the company I work for | 21:07 |
| kevr | ah | 21:07 |
| Pinkerton | If I had a company-purchased Mac they roll this stuff out via mobile device management | 21:07 |
| kevr | geez | 21:08 |
| Pinkerton | so, annoyingly, the bare installer isn't on the company portal | 21:08 |
| kevr | interesting that they dont just setup a vpn you can login to without some special proprietary backdoor anal software | 21:08 |
| oerheks | How is this related to ubuntu support? | 21:08 |
| Pinkerton | oof it wasn't | 21:08 |
| oerheks | kevr, keep this channel family friendly, thanks | 21:08 |
| Pinkerton | I was just looking for nerds | 21:08 |
| kevr | oerheks: you're welcome! | 21:09 |
| kevr | even though i didn't agree yet. | 21:09 |
| Pinkerton | the ubuntu installer for this stuff *was* on our internal portal though :v | 21:09 |
| oerheks | tone down.. | 21:09 |
| Pinkerton | maybe that subliminally led me here | 21:09 |
| kevr | oerheks: my tone is very low. | 21:10 |
| Synx_hm | Anybody tracking issues with 20.04 daily and using vagrant? | 21:13 |
| oerheks | Synx_hm, join #ubuntu+1 for focal Q&A | 21:14 |
| Synx_hm | thanks | 21:15 |
| nikolam | I am on Live session now, boot from USB and my BTRFS partition on SSD defies mounting and any way of accessing it... | 21:25 |
| nikolam | other OS (MS windows) boots just fine from GRUB, on same SSD.. | 21:25 |
| nikolam | sudo mount -o recovery,ro /dev/sda3 /mnt | 21:28 |
| nikolam | mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error | 21:28 |
| nikolam | sudo btrfs check --repair /dev/sda3 says: ERROR: child eb corrupted: parent bytenr=218808320 item=16 parent level=2 child level=0 | 21:29 |
| nikolam | https://pastebin.com/h1MxXvDi | 21:31 |
| Atlenohen | Hello | 21:34 |
| Atlenohen | just installed latest ubuntu, I'm previous experienced with Mint, I'm trying to get into the program manager | 21:34 |
| Atlenohen | like Synaptic Package Manager | 21:34 |
| Atlenohen | If there's something equivalent here | 21:35 |
| oerheks | Atlenohen, sure, synaptic is available in the repos | 21:36 |
| oerheks | sudo apt install synaptic | 21:36 |
| Atlenohen | oh I have to install it | 21:36 |
| Bashing-om | !synaptic | Atlenohen | 21:36 |
| ubottu | Atlenohen: Synaptic is a graphical utility which can install and remove software packages (.deb). For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto | 21:36 |
| === xubuntu__ is now known as nikolam | ||
| Pinkerton | kevr: if you're still here, I managed to find a guy who got me the file | 21:44 |
| Pinkerton | I am up and running | 21:44 |
| Pinkerton | the kind of closure you rarely get on the internet | 21:45 |
| === daniel is now known as Guest798 | ||
| === hallo is now known as deww | ||
| === hallo is now known as deww | ||
| kevr | Sweet, grats! | 22:35 |
| dinosomething | im curious, for the 19.10.1 arm releases page, the raspberry pi versions are e.g.: ubuntu-19.10.1-preinstalled-server-arm64+raspi3.img.xz , but the 20.04 releases page are e.g.: ubuntu-20.04-beta-preinstalled-server-arm64+raspi.img.xz. my question is, for the 20.04 version, its not raspi3, but raspi, does that mean that the version is designed for all raspis? | 22:38 |
| matsaman | dinosomething: I think it's a correction of 'raspi3' which was not accurate (not '3' specific) | 22:39 |
| matsaman | so basically what you said, yes | 22:39 |
| oerheks | jups | 22:39 |
| matsaman | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi ('please note') | 22:39 |
| === banisterfiend_ is now known as banisterfiend | ||
| EggSpurt | hopefully the systemd trolls didnt follow me here | 22:58 |
| grawity | You rang? | 22:59 |
| kevr | lol | 23:04 |
| bigfluff | so, i'm relatively experienced with day-to-day linux/ubntu workflow, but need a bit of guidance...what's the best way anymore to string a bunch of hard drives together for spanned storage? | 23:05 |
| oerheks | LVM, ZFS, BTRFS .. | 23:06 |
| Bashing-om | !lvm | bigfluff | 23:06 |
| ubottu | bigfluff: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto | 23:06 |
| matsaman | bigfluff: mhddfs | 23:06 |
| EggSpurt | i was wondering if someone on freenode could load an mirc-bot script and park it in our channel until our founder recovers from covid-19 | 23:07 |
| oerheks | jbod | 23:07 |
| matsaman | or jbod | 23:07 |
| oerheks | EggSpurt, no | 23:07 |
| matsaman | hard not to like a FUSE solution like mhddfs | 23:07 |
| oerheks | EggSpurt, read the topic | 23:08 |
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| Kristine6 | Hi, I picked x org server something in additional driver and restarted hoping to disable Nvidia. But next time I logged in keyboard and mouse both won't work. How can I fix this? | 23:59 |
| Kristine6 | Something like these options https://images.app.goo.gl/iQX2mxhqYD9AbDAY8 | 23:59 |
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