| joethrun[m] | Hello. I'm a complete greenhorn looking at the possibility of using Ubuntu Studio for a DAW. Can you recommend a low latency interface of reasonable quality that will work well with Ubuntu Studio? I plan on using software synths, guitar amp simulators and recording voice, so I do not want latency to rear its ugly head ever. | 00:53 |
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| Eickmeyer[m] | I'm partial to my Behringer UMC404HD. Hard to go wrong with that or it's siblings. | 00:55 |
| joethrun[m] | I noticed a fella here in this short thread (Forsland) who is getting 2.67 ms latency: https://discourse.ardour.org/t/ardour-jack-settings-for-firewire-interface/103261/2 Is Firewire something that is worth pursuing? Or, is it dead? | 01:00 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | FireWire devices are no longer manufactured. We don’t support them in Ubuntu Studio unless they happen to work with ALSA, which is a crapshoot at best anymore. | 01:02 |
| joethrun[m] | What kind of round trip latency figures are possible with the Behringer UMC line? What about the MOTU M4? or the UR22c? | 01:05 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Theoretically, you could get as low as 2ms latency with any USB devices. You can go lower with PCI, but that gets expensive. | 01:06 |
| joethrun[m] | how expensive? | 01:06 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | $500 or more. | 01:07 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Honestly, unless you’re engineering live audio, you don’t need extremely low latency. | 01:07 |
| joethrun[m] | well, I would like to avoid hardware monitoring | 01:08 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Understood, but the human ear can get used to latency as high as 10-20ms. | 01:09 |
| joethrun[m] | I would like to stay under 8 ms for large, involved, multitrack projects | 01:10 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That’s completely doable with the right PC and interface. Shutting-off Bluetooth and WiFi are musts, and a dedicated graphics card also offloads some of the CPU power. | 01:11 |
| joethrun[m] | I'm looking at building a computer with a Ryzen 9 3900x, solid state drives, and enough ram, so I should be covered there. You think USB would be good enough to get the job done? | 01:13 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Definitely. I’ve used USB in live environments. | 01:14 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Make sure it’s a professional interface though. The run-of-the-mill USB audio cards for <$10 won’t cut it. | 01:15 |
| joethrun[m] | any experience with the MOTU M2 or M4? I saw this review, but I'm not sure if he is using it to do multitrack, full duplex studio work: https://panther.kapsi.fi/posts/2020-02-02_motu_m4 | 01:16 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Nope. I’ve only used my Behringer and the interface in a Behringer X32/Midas M32. | 01:16 |
| joethrun[m] | Does Behringer actually have a linux driver? The brand seems to be popular with linux users and I noticed they have had Ardour bundled with some of their interfaces in the past | 01:19 |
| joethrun[m] | Are all the class compliant interfaces the same as far as Ubuntu studio is concerned? | 01:20 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Behringer uses Linux in their consoles. I just told you that I have used Behringer with my setup. | 01:20 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | In Linux, much like Mac, there are no drivers mostly. Things just work. | 01:21 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | All class compliant devices should work natively. | 01:22 |
| joethrun[m] | can any of the interfaces with dsp be capitalized on in Ubuntu Studio? In other words, can the onboard DSP be utilized? | 01:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Do you mean, like, using the DSP as if it were the PC’s DSP? | 01:26 |
| joethrun[m] | I mean like the DSP onboard the Yamaha UR22c for example. It is used for mixing, amp simulation, reverb, compression etc. Mostly for monitor mixing | 01:28 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That would be something where the manufacturer would have to supply a driver and software. We don’t support anything outside of the Ubuntu repositories. | 01:29 |
| joethrun[m] | As someone who is unfamiliar with linux, and wants the most trouble free experience, is their any key advice you can give me for building a linux DAW. I'm concerned I might be over my head with linux. | 01:31 |
| joethrun[m] | I can slap syntax into a CLI, but that's about it | 01:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | You have nothing to lose by just trying it. You don’t even have to install it. | 01:32 |
| joethrun[m] | true true true. Thank you so much for your valuable time sir | 01:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Glad to help. | 01:33 |
| OvenWerks | the xr16/18 can have the dsp controled by linux | 02:00 |
| OvenWerks | the x32/m32 can as well. | 02:00 |
| OvenWerks | The A & H QU series can be controled by linux (and the new one but it is 96k only) | 02:01 |
| OvenWerks | the MOTU avb series can be controled by linux as well | 02:01 |
| OvenWerks | basically anything that can be controled by OSB, midi or broswer will work. | 02:02 |
| Goop | I am trying to create a virtual microphone, which takes desktop application sound, along with a real microphone sound, and output them into the virtual microphone, into my web conferencing (Jitsi). This is all on Ubuntu/Linux. | 04:17 |
| StevenJayCohen | Goop: So you're just trying to loop sound out back to an input source, right? | 04:46 |
| Goop | Right | 04:47 |
| Goop | StevenJayCohen, yes. I am trying to combine both application sound and microphone sound with the input source. | 04:47 |
| StevenJayCohen | So, a simple loopback | 04:48 |
| StevenJayCohen | https://askubuntu.com/questions/257992/how-can-i-use-pulseaudio-virtual-audio-streams-to-play-music-over-skype | 04:48 |
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